Xtreme Twinmos Memory!

[GazC]

I'd be more impressed if we had seen multiple passes on test #5. I'll bet that won't even boot into windows.

I'd love to be wrong though :toast:

[TEDY]

2t :d

[hipro5]

At ONLY 3.2Vdimm and 2-2-2-5 AND 300MHz it is IMPOSIBLE as for me no matter on what platform..... :stick:

I think that it must be Memtest-86 that showing crazy things - aka older version - OR your friend may uses a multi of ".5" and memtest shows those crazy things........NO WAY at 3.2Vdimm and 300MHz 2-2-2-5..... :D

PLUS it is TOO LOW Bandwidth@1417MB/s at 300MHz EVEN for only one Ram stick...... :D

[enzoR]

imposible. thats not even running at 240mhz, bandwidth too low.

[mushk1n]

At ONLY 3.2Vdimm and 2-2-2-5 AND 300MHz it is IMPOSIBLE as for me no matter on what platform..... :stick:

I think that it must be Memtest-86 that showing crazy things - aka older version - OR your friend may uses a multi of ".5" and memtest shows those crazy things........NO WAY at 3.2Vdimm and 300MHz 2-2-2-5..... :D

PLUS it is TOO LOW Bandwidth@1417MB/s at 300MHz EVEN for only one Ram stick...... :D


exactly what i was thinking ^o)

[largon]

Seems to be 7.5 x 300.00 MHz = 2250MHz?
I don't know but shouldn't the clock chip give something like 300.xxMHz, not exactly 300.00MHz? :confused: :bs:?

[enzoR]

i also had no luck running 2x512MB TwinMOS Speed Premium 250 2-2-2-5 @ 3,3 on a P4C800-E PAT enabled while they did 260 2-2-2-5 1T on K8N Neo2 also @ 3,3

try 2-2-2-6 makes a hell of a difference for me. up vagp to 1.8 if you can. please try again :D

[eva2000]

:banana4: :banana4: :banana4: :banana4: :banana4: :banana4:

Hold your breath guys, my friend just mail me this result of twinmos sticks that i sell to him .....

a64 3000+
Dfi Lput 250 gb
Twinmos SP aa4T 44D 256x2 @ 2T
Vdimm 3.2v !

too low as @ 200mhz 2-2-2-6 on DFI NF3 250Gb with 3700+ cpu i get 1427MB/s already with 2x 512MB KHX3200/512 BH-5 !

[enzoR]

Seems to be 7.5 x 300.00 MHz = 2250MHz?
I don't know but shouldn't the clock chip give something like 300.xxMHz, not exactly 300.00MHz? :confused: :bs:?

memtest doesnt display .XX :)

[largon]

memtest doesnt display .XX :)
I mean if you multiply 300.xxMHz with 7.5 wouldn't the total be 225xMHz?
I wonder how accurate the clock chip is?
Massive editing...

[esdee]

my guess is this

300x7.5 so the mems are actually at aprox 266MHz

it's nice for 266MHz even at 3.2V try 1T :slap:

[enzoR]

well it will remain 2250 from ranges ~299.94-300.06

[X-GeN]

:banana4: :banana4: :banana4: :banana4: :banana4: :banana4:

Hold your breath guys, my friend just mail me this result of twinmos sticks that i sell to him .....

a64 3000+
Dfi Lput 250 gb
Twinmos SP aa4T 44D 256x2 @ 2T
Vdimm 3.2v !

:shakes:

[tictac]

:banana4: :banana4: :banana4: :banana4: :banana4: :banana4:

Hold your breath guys, my friend just mail me this result of twinmos sticks that i sell to him .....

a64 3000+
Dfi Lput 250 gb
Twinmos SP aa4T 44D 256x2 @ 2T
Vdimm 3.2v !


Di test ama Om Bessie ya?

:toast:

[tictac]

Seems to be 7.5 x 300.00 MHz = 2250MHz?
I don't know but shouldn't the clock chip give something like 300.xxMHz, not exactly 300.00MHz? :confused: :bs:?

Ya looks like 7.5 multiplier there ....

so i dont think that is 1:1

[Playful_Buffalo]

awww.... i got so happy for a minute there

[pik-ard v1.1]

my guess is this

300x7.5 so the mems are actually at aprox 266MHz

it's nice for 266MHz even at 3.2V try 1T :slap:
why is it 266?

i thought to figure out real ram speeds with .5 multis:

7.5x300 = 2250
round(7.5) = 8

2250/8 = 281mhz.

i thought would be at 281mhz, 2-2-2-5 2t.

2250 / 9 = 250mhz

so how are you even getting 266?

[tictac]

i smell new world record at 2-2-2-5 timing :hehe:

:bounces: :eleph: :YIPPIE:

[Rabbi_NZ]

definately not a world record... but I think it is about 280-285 MHz.
shroomy has benched his UTT past 280 in windows and Ive seen BH5 screenies at 300 2-2-2

[tictac]

Memtest 86 test 5

35 pass error fre

2-2-2-5 timing

more than 300MHz :hehe:

multiplier 7

drumm rolling :bounce:

[setyotomo]

@tictac : bukan bessie.. ada anak ocindo juga, ini sekarang gue test sendiri... biar bisa liat sendiri ..

so i go to his house and tested by myself... and i use memtest 1.40 and multiplier 7 now .. the result with 3.2v is :

spec :
a64 s754 3000+
DFI LPUT 250gb
TwinMOS Speed Premium AA4T 44D

guys : i cannot believe my eyes also.. i dunno.. this is like "twilight zone" for me... or maybe "freaky sunday" ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/setyotomo/315_resize.jpg

PS : thx to Wangga@overclockerindo to let me try this baby...

[tictac]

313MHz :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

[esdee]

:slobber: :slobber:
ok somebody kidnap his family!

[esdee]

why is it 266?

i thought to figure out real ram speeds with .5 multis:

7.5x300 = 2250
round(7.5) = 8

2250/8 = 281mhz.

i thought would be at 281mhz, 2-2-2-5 2t.

2250 / 9 = 250mhz

so how are you even getting 266?

oooops my bad (did the calcs in hy head :slap: )

[setyotomo]

oh no... i can't wait for my 1GB sticks arrived now ... arrghh...

-maybe somebody can try with the same spec n setup?, this board use jess's bios fyi

[GazC]

No more mem-test. Lets see CPU-z with at least a Sandra benchmark please.

[vapb400]

OH MY GOD 313MHz! Thats crazy, definitely ordering as soon as i find some in stock.

[TEDY]

something is wrong

with 3.2v there is NO WAY running 313mhz.

end of period.

[Garrett]

No more mem-test. Lets see CPU-z with at least a Sandra benchmark please. I second that... bandwidth screens please :stick:

[Rabbi_NZ]

is that 315MHz at 1T or 2T... cos that bandwidth is rediculously low. at 8x260 1T I get a lot more than that!

PS, is that 1x512 or 2x256?

Show us a windows benchmark :)

[pik-ard v1.1]

where does everyone see 313mhz? it clearly says 315mhz...

how does that stick do with 1T, instead of 2T?

and yea, lets see some windows stuff.

[tictac]

where does everyone see 313mhz? it clearly says 315mhz...

how does that stick do with 1T, instead of 2T?

and yea, lets see some windows stuff.


my bad that is 315MHz :slap:

it is 6am in the morning here :hehe:

[TEDY]

go to bed tictac :)

[setyotomo]

wow.. i have to get some sleep now.. it's allready 5 AM :(

- why not windows bench?

:: the cpu-z cannot read the mem speed, also everest,rightmark.. etc,i'll try it again tommorow though... now time to sleep... ::

ppl please ... i'm not trying to lie or anything,what's the point anyway...so please can somebody try those setup in the same rig.. i think its a common rig anyway (DFI LP UT+ newcastle a64 3000+ ) ..

PS: it's 315 mhz right?

[tictac]

go to bed tictac :)

i got exam at 8am :(

[Rabbi_NZ]

wow.. i have to get some sleep now.. it's allready 5 AM :(

- why not windows bench?

:: the cpu-z cannot read the mem speed, also everest,rightmark.. etc,i'll try it again tommorow though... now time to sleep... ::
if CPU-Z is not showing it something is strange... CPU-Z has always worked fine with my DFI LanPartyUT.

[MUCHO]

I've been following this thread on and off for a while.

Can someone just give me the newegg link for the 512 sticks that I should buy so I don't have to read through 10000 posts?

:D:D:D

[pik-ard v1.1]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-405&depa=1

tictac, the funny thing is, is that everyone else went with what you said... as opposed to what the actual screenshot said... >_>

[tictac]

tictac, the funny thing is, is that everyone else went with what you said... as opposed to what the actual screenshot said... >_>

:lol: they are hypnotized with my words....

i assume :lol:

[enzoR]

dude ur bandwidth is too low. thats only donig 200mhz.

[vapb400]

it was 213, he probably changed the screenshot, or i am too tired to know whats happening.

[Bennah]

Not convinced at all... its not doing 315 @ 2-2-2-5 with 3.2v.

Lets see some windows shots?

[GazC]

wow.. i have to get some sleep now.. it's allready 5 AM :(

- why not windows bench?

:: the cpu-z cannot read the mem speed, also everest,rightmark.. etc,i'll try it again tommorow though... now time to sleep... ::

ppl please ... i'm not trying to lie or anything,what's the point anyway...so please can somebody try those setup in the same rig.. i think its a common rig anyway (DFI LP UT+ newcastle a64 3000+ ) ..



The point is that I would actually like to see some indication that you can use windows with a degree of stability rather than a photo of mem-test.

I could go into memtest at 10x300 but there aint a chance in hell I'm getting into windows at that speed.

Like I said, CPU-z and Sandra screenies please or I call shens.

[BeSaiD]

i would like to test ANY memory to try to get into windows @ 300 2-2-2-6

BTW, that screen is impressive, 1T or not.

[Rabbi_NZ]

BTW, that screen is impressive, 1T or not.
the question is not so much 1t or not... it's a question of whether or not the DFI / MemTest are reporting the speed correctly... I'm leaning a long way towards some glitch going on there...

[BeSaiD]

but if setyotomo went to his friend house and put the mem speed at bios it should go at that speed... I don't know if i'm talking clear, my english is getting better, but it's not perfect :D

Till i don't see any windows screenshot, i'll assume that's a Bug. It can't be real, at least at 3.2v... if it's true, they are the chosen modules, the perfect ones...

[tictac]

setyotomo still sleeping..... so be patient .... :)

and 315Mhz is not the maximum limit yet... :hehe:

[Reefa_Madness]

It can't be real, at least at 3.2v... if it's true, they are the chosen modules, the perfect ones...

And they all dropped to their knees and bowed down in awe before "The Perfect Ones".


Those sticks have been pretty stellar from the very beginning, so maybe...just maybe, they are the chosen ones.

[BeSaiD]

And they all dropped to their knees and bowed down in awe before "The Perfect Ones".


Those sticks have been pretty stellar from the very beginning, so maybe...just maybe, they are the chosen ones.

That's my way to say that they are the best modules i've seen in my life :P

[reject]

maybe its using a hidden divider like 9/10, memtest cant pick those up, it just says the HTT

[Reefa_Madness]

That's my way to say that they are the best modules i've seen in my life :P

I knew what you meant. I was just playing around with words...your words actually.

Winbond BH-5 has often been referred to as the King when it comes to ram and I was just staying with that theme of bowing down to royalty, as in Winbond UTT...the new King? There is no disagreement that those sticks are special. They were special from the beginning.

My personal opinions are that while some of these chips are simply awesome, the fact you've got to feed them so much voltage makes then unattractive to a large number of people. I am playing with some of these, but since I don't have quite the available voltage as some, I'm not ready to sell my bh-5 yet.

[Dani]

Is this a joke, with 315FSB bandwidth is xtreme low.:mad:

Here is my 256mb BH5 2-2-2-5 1T 1:1 on DFI Lp 250GB

- Picture (http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/DFI%20nForce3%20250GB/MemTest%20KHX3000%20BH5%20SS.JPG)

[hipro5]

something is wrong

with 3.2v there is NO WAY running 313mhz.

end of period.

;) :D

Is there a way that he uses a multi for Ram - let's say 3:2 or so - coz even the bandwidth is too low........Maybe Memtest got crazy.........Ex. When I'm testing with the Prescott CPU and the "x14" Multi of it with the Rams at 3:2 and about 340MHz fsb , Memtest shows 200MHz fsb and 160MHz Ram with a bandwidth of about the same as my Rams are already at 226MHz which is true......BUT Memtest shows 200 fsb and 160 Rams........That's why I'm saying that a multi of CPU:RAM whould have been used and the Memtest just couldn't track it.......... ;)

[roscoe211]

I just got some 2 512mb 44D AA4T week 0448 chips from here (http://www.chiefvalue.com/app/productdetails.asp?submit=manufactory&item=20-218-405) a couple days ago, haven't tested them out yet though.. the neo2 is still on its way back from RMA.

[tictac]

want to bet? :hehe:

[tictac]

Windows Screen shot coming...

drum rolling.............. :lol:

[reject]

id rather do a small vmod or select a good mobo than to hope for a good memory controller for TCCD

[eva2000]

@tictac : bukan bessie.. ada anak ocindo juga, ini sekarang gue test sendiri... biar bisa liat sendiri ..

so i go to his house and tested by myself... and i use memtest 1.40 and multiplier 7 now .. the result with 3.2v is :

spec :
a64 s754 3000+
DFI LPUT 250gb
TwinMOS Speed Premium AA4T 44D

guys : i cannot believe my eyes also.. i dunno.. this is like "twilight zone" for me... or maybe "freaky sunday" ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/setyotomo/315_resize.jpg

PS : thx to Wangga@overclockerindo to let me try this baby...

somethings wrong there

i.e. 1x 256MB XMS3500C2v1.1 BH-5 on DFI NF3 250Gb

@ 270mhz 2-2-2-6 8-13-2-2-1-2 memtest = 1938 MB/s
@ 275mhz 2-2-2-6 8-13-2-2-1-2 memtest = 1973 MB/s

Also use memtest86+ v1.50

[setyotomo]

want to bet? :hehe:

hehehe i want ... who's in ?

[hipro5]

I think that it is with something like 3:2 CPU:RAM .......and Ram is runing at 315 * 2 / 3 = 210MHz BUT Memtest just can't "track" it......This could explain the low bandwidth...... ;)

[Rabbi_NZ]

want to bet? :hehe:
very tempting!

[perry_78]

@tictac : bukan bessie.. ada anak ocindo juga, ini sekarang gue test sendiri... biar bisa liat sendiri ..

so i go to his house and tested by myself... and i use memtest 1.40 and multiplier 7 now .. the result with 3.2v is :

spec :
a64 s754 3000+
DFI LPUT 250gb
TwinMOS Speed Premium AA4T 44D

guys : i cannot believe my eyes also.. i dunno.. this is like "twilight zone" for me... or maybe "freaky sunday" ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/setyotomo/315_resize.jpg

PS : thx to Wangga@overclockerindo to let me try this baby...

If this indeed is true, you pretty much have the best memory on the planet! Please post some Sandra/Everest/CPU-Z images!

[setyotomo]

I think that it is with something like 3:2 CPU:RAM .......and Ram is runing at 315 * 2 / 3 = 210MHz BUT Memtest just can't "track" it......This could explain the low bandwidth...... ;)

if its not 2/3 do you mind turning of the "bold"? or maybe a maximizer for a bet :p:

:rolleyes:

[esdee]

if its not 2/3 do you mind turning of the "bold"? or maybe a maximizer for a bet :p:

:rolleyes:

veeeeeery tempting!!!!

[LilGator]

veeeeeery tempting!!!!

what's hipro5's end of the deal ? :p:

[esdee]

we'll have to see what setyotomo looses if his not right :P

[eva2000]

I think that it is with something like 3:2 CPU:RAM .......and Ram is runing at 315 * 2 / 3 = 210MHz BUT Memtest just can't "track" it......This could explain the low bandwidth...... ;)

sounds like it... memtest86+ v1.50 fixes it i think

[hipro5]

if its not 2/3 do you mind turning of the "bold"? or maybe a maximizer for a bet :p:

:rolleyes:

Neither of them.......I just don't make bets......Never did.... :D

[Reefa_Madness]

hipro5,

I don't even bet a dollar on a game of billiards. Learned a long time ago that was not for me.

By the way guys, I know several of you have seen this thread that was started by Alonso, but for those that haven't...it looks like TwinMOS is looking for more ways to get all of our money...Speed Premiums DDR450 with BH-5 is coming!

And DDR1 is supposed to be on the way out?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51176

This isall insane...don't you just love it? Soon we get to start all over.

[esdee]

it looks like TwinMOS is looking for more ways to get all of our money...Speed Premiums DDR450 with BH-5 is coming!
This isall insane...don't you just love it? Soon we get to start all over.

bad twinmos! :slapass:

[Shroomalistic]

this looks like the 4 multiplier trick all over again. Deffinitly looks like the 9/10 divider for mem. and for the bandwidth, at 274 im at 1800mb/s with the 7multi. that one says 315 @ 1566. Something deffinitly buggy there.



@tictac : bukan bessie.. ada anak ocindo juga, ini sekarang gue test sendiri... biar bisa liat sendiri ..

so i go to his house and tested by myself... and i use memtest 1.40 and multiplier 7 now .. the result with 3.2v is :

spec :
a64 s754 3000+
DFI LPUT 250gb
TwinMOS Speed Premium AA4T 44D

guys : i cannot believe my eyes also.. i dunno.. this is like "twilight zone" for me... or maybe "freaky sunday" ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/setyotomo/315_resize.jpg

PS : thx to Wangga@overclockerindo to let me try this baby...

[Shroomalistic]

I just tried it myself, at 315x7 I get 1722mb/s bandwidth but thats on a 9/10 mem divider. Ill see if Pc Ice will let me borrow his cam so I can take pics for ya all. If you think 315 @ 2,2,2 is good, Ill show some at 320 2,2,2 but they wont be real either.

[setyotomo]

I just tried it myself, at 315x7 I get 1722mb/s bandwidth but thats on a 9/10 mem divider. Ill see if Pc Ice will let me borrow his cam so I can take pics for ya all. If you think 315 @ 2,2,2 is good, Ill show some at 320 2,2,2 but they wont be real either.

thx shroomalistic for trying with the same spec i guess?? now this is starting to get more objective... :) , this is why i like reading in XS :D

@hipro5 : it's ok man.. i'm just teasing you :p:

ok this the screenshot... the timing reading looks like faulty in cpu-z... (in memtest is 2-2-2-5) .. or memtest reads faulty :confused:

and yes i see it too ... the idle timer is ridiculous, and tras & trc give error reading iguess.. or its a faulty from the mem controller...?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/setyotomo/mampus38fd-resize.jpg

:toast:

[setyotomo]

oh ya one more tihing... why cpuz read as dual channel :confused:

[BeSaiD]

can you take a screenshot with CPU-Z, smartguardian, clockgen and A64 tweaker please?

Great mem speed though.

[eva2000]

that's cause cpuz momentarily does that when it first opens... try closing cpuz and reopening it again

[9mmCensor]

Noobish Question: How do you take a screenshot of a BIOS SCreen or Memtest? Is it just done with a digital camera?

[eva2000]

Download www.irfanview.com and plugins...

prnt-scr -> open irfanview -> ctrl-v to paste image -> use mouse to highlight only area you want to show -> ctrl-Y to crop that area -> ctrl-R to resize it to 450-575pixels for forums -> save as -> jpeg -> options set at 65-75% quality

= nice small image

HTH

[BeSaiD]

to take bios and memtest screens they use digital camera. You can't run irfanview ;)

[eva2000]

doh re-read his question.. yeah digi cam needed :D

[esdee]

now that's weird ...
can you try a different BIOS and get approx 315?
is the Voltage reading correct in CPUz??
how about max bench for sandra,pi??
maybe it's some kind of BIOS bug...

sorry for all of these questions but you understand your speed is way out of the limit
and we have to make sure everything is OK!

/edit have you tested those RAMs in a complete different PC ?

[setyotomo]

Noobish Question: How do you take a screenshot of a BIOS SCreen or Memtest? Is it just done with a digital camera?

i use digicam.. if you have manual options, try to set the shutter low maybe 1/15 or 1/20 with f 4.0 or 5.0 .. you should get rid of the "flicker" thing

that's cause cpuz momentarily does that when it first opens... try closing cpuz and reopening it again

done that before .. not working..

can you take a screenshot with CPU-Z, smartguardian, clockgen and A64 tweaker please?

Great mem speed though.

cannot right now .. i'm in my house right now..

now that's weird ...
can you try a different BIOS and get approx 315?
is the Voltage reading correct in CPUz??
how about max bench for sandra,pi??
maybe it's some kind of BIOS bug...

sorry for all of these questions but you understand your speed is way out of the limit
and we have to make sure everything is OK!

/edit have you tested those RAMs in a complete different PC ?

sure esdee,i'll ask him to take more screenshot.. right now, i'm in my house..only got nf7-s :( .. it's time to upgrade i guess :p:

and voltage reading is correct i believe...

BIOS bug.. hmm maybe... we'll see... it's already 12:21 AM.. have to wait...

now i'm wondering about Shroomalistic results... :confused:

[9mmCensor]

Ok cool. Now i know there isn't another option. :)

danke

[Shroomalistic]

i know this isnt the same thing but it looks like its giving the same results

[enok]

omfg! :stick: :slobber:

[Rabbi_NZ]

omfg! :stick: :slobber:
shroomy was jus showing that CPU-Z has an error, nothing more... that ram is actually on a devider... but im not sure which one, maybe 5/6

[Shroomalistic]

Its deffintily nothin to drool about, there is a bug with the 4 multiplier. I believe it exist in every a64. I now it was there with my old old 3000 clawhammer and its there with my 3700 also. Sandra scores are just crap but it looks good. Everything will say that its running at those speeds but it really isnt. If everyone here with an a64 tried the 4 multi, they would get similar results. Now for Setyotomos, I think he got a cpu with the 7 mutli bugged. Maybe his 4 mutli is fine. But like I said, thats good for screenshots only, let see some sandra and pcmark at that and see what they get.

[BeSaiD]

330*4/5 as i can remember... 264mhz. It's not so bad... ;)

[enok]

thought it was 1:1 :p:

[Shroomalistic]

if you like that, check this out - Another cheat....

If only it was true........

[Rabbi_NZ]

if you like that, check this out - Another cheat....

If only it was true........
shroomy,
is that OCZ PC52000 EL VX?

[enok]

lol, mega-ultra-killer ram :p:

[Shroomalistic]

hahaha, just showing how numbers can easily be changed. Even if its not intentional but these are intentional. ;)

[eva2000]

use cpuz version 1.26

[BeSaiD]

that sandra attach is a new WR! Onepagebook to go over 9200 needed (as i remember) lot of MSI boards and some cherrypicked Gskills...

:D:D:D:D One day that 55000 points sandra will be real... i hope so :P

[eva2000]

further proof that 315+ 2-2-2- memtest bandwidth is too low

on DFI NF3 250Gb with 3700+ cpu @ 9x 273mhz

2x 256MB XMS3500C2v1.1 BH-5 @ 273mhz 2-2-2-6 at 3.57v = 2000 MB/s bandwidth

2x 256MB XMS3500C2v1.1 BH-5 @ 266mhz 2-2-2-6 at 3.57v = 1949 MB/s bandwidth

[tictac]

use cpuz version 1.26

:hehe: that 315MHz is running at 2T timing & 256 idle clock

and yes it is 1:1 :toast:

[Jack]

:hehe: that 315MHz is running at 2T timing & 256 idle clock

and yes it is 1:1 :toast:
can you post a sisoft mem b/w bench screenie for us then? :)

[tictac]

can you post a sisoft mem b/w bench screenie for us then? :)

i wish i had that computer here ........ :lol:

[Skip]

i think my 7 and 6 multi are bugged, these are legitimate speeds, but for some reason sandra and everest are reading my bandwidth wrong.

it also could be that it is slightly unstable, so thats why its wrong.

i just touched my NB cooler, the passive one that comes installed, and it was pretty hot, i was surprised how hot it was, i'm probably going to need to put my microcool on it, i think it will just barely fit with my 9800pro.

[GazC]

Well this has all been very interesting, but shall we stop feeding the troll now? :rolleyes:

[esdee]

:hehe: that 315MHz is running at 2T timing & 256 idle clock

and yes it is 1:1 :toast:

280-300 at 1T should be interesting too! can your friends try that?

[Ulti]

I have a really weird "problem" with my TwinMOS UTT. At 3.1V I can't run CAS2, 2.5-2-2-5 timings at 240mhz is no problem but CAS 2 just doesn't work. I guess i need some more voltage and burning in :stick:

[DuPu]

Founded REALLY nice stick, what do 249MHz Memtest86+ #5 test stable @ 3.22V with Abit AS8 motherboard. Sad that these kind of sticks are "under the rock" :D

[reject]

how many loops
do you have some sticks for me yet? :D

[celemine1Gig]

Well, I just thought I'd try it myself and run my RAM at 300MHz+ 1:1.

I adjusted the FSB to 300 MHz and the multi to 7 and had the VDimm set to 2.8V. To let you all know, I run a Clawhammer 3000+ (CH-Stepping, very old), DFI Lanparty UT (Bios 10/15 4V Vdimm version with built in memtest) of course and 2x 512MB Infineon 6-A PC2700 RAM).

So, normally, there's no way this setup would boot at 300 MHz RAm speed, regardless of the timings. And furthermore, at 2,8V it's even more unrealistic.

Guess what, it booted without problems, even at 320 MHz. Unfortunately, I cant show you any pics (I wanted to, but that was a no go), because my board always rebooted before loading memtest. That's most likely because it's all at 1t (Clawhammer CH; can't set to 2t). Upto now, the highest I could really boot at (not only the message, but get into windows and run something) was about 270 MHz. ;)

Just wanted to let you know that this is a BUG for sure, 100%!!! :toast:

[Revv23]

interesting bug...

[TEDY]

OK

AA4T
WEEK AFTER 44
2 DOTS

anything else?

store got them here....will go and buy some.

[Bluebeard]

go, go, goooooooo! ;)

[Revv23]

44d rating is nice too TEDY... but thats only on SP.

[TEDY]

wish me luck :D

[alexio]

Some 2.75V action with my Speed Premium, it's error free for at least 4 hours Memtest #5 at 177mhz. Burning these modules in gave me 2mhz extra.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/AlexKok33/ScreenHunter_003.jpg

[enzoR]

lol

[amilian]

lmbo

[alexio]

Yeah I know but it is just what I expected, I'm going to build my new rig in some time and then they will be fed allot more voltage, I'm happy for now since they run 2-2-2-5 nicely.

[amilian]

Yeah I know but it is just what I expected, I'm going to build my new rig in some time and then they will be fed allot more voltage, I'm happy for now since they run 2-2-2-5 nicely.
Hey alexio, don't go changin'. Funny post :D Always nice to be able to make people laff, although it's better if they laff with ya and not at ya.

Save that post you made and re-read it in a couple years and you'll laff too.

[alexio]

What's so freekin funny then? The hole "action thing" was a kind of joke. Don't you think I was laughthing when I posted it? Offcourse it's a crappy speed, what would you expect with just 2.75V.

[tictac]

What's so freekin funny then? The hole "action thing" was a kind of joke. Don't you think I was laughthing when I posted it? Offcourse it's a crappy speed, what would you expect with just 2.75V.

300MHz ++ :hehe:

[TEDY]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee e

you know what i got ? :)

guess :D

[enzoR]

this thread is becomeing retarded :S

[TEDY]

AA4T
05084

both

:D

/me happy

[largon]

05084 Doesn't this mean week 8 of this year? I don't know about TwinMos but i'm living week 4...

[TEDY]

sorry

05034

my mistake

[tictac]

:lol:

week 8 2005... ?
that just got out from factory within this week.....
Is it still hot? :hehe:

[setyotomo]

he he yeah its a bug for sure i guess :p:

- let's continue.. so.. week 3 2005 ... can you scan / take a picture of the chip tedy? coz i just got call from my supplier... " there's a new shipping of 256x2 Speed premium... but not the 512x2" --- arrrghh..

[$ilver]

so guys ..
i've started testing ... atm one stick makes errors @ 251 11-2-2-2 @ 3,34v (max stable 248), the other one runs perfectly @ Memtest OCZ more than 4 loops .. more loops arent possible , because the time is running out (hehe song title of band , called Muse .. by the way ..) i just wanna say , that is dont have so much time for testing at the moment ... tomorrow i gonna test the second stick ( 255,260,265) .. atm iam not able to give more voltage .. my DFI Infinity died last week .. my new DFI isnt modded atm ... so at the moment , my modules arent so bad i think ... some other question .. any germans here ?
everything with cpc off atm , both modules are 512mb ....

[TEDY]

230 2-2-2-11
3.2vdimm

2hours memtest #5 0 errors :)

setyotomo got no digicam...will do sometimes asap.

i got them for 160€ 2*512 :D

so happy

[enzoR]

push higher!

[$ilver]

i got them for 160€ 2*512 :D

127,50 € :p
:banana4: :wierd: :slobber:

[enzoR]

uuummmm......... ok....

[TEDY]

127,50 € :p
:banana4: :wierd: :slobber:

well you're in germany me in slovenija...normally they're 170€.

[$ilver]

well you're in germany me in slovenija...normally they're 170€.
thats right .. no idea what they cost normaly in germany , there was a bug @ infinity .. something with the bios battery .. after this bug-using you were able to burn with 3,6v ... i've read this @ hardwareluxx.com .. my home board .. but now, if i want to use this bug , i cant find the thread about it ... :stick:

[$ilver]

so .. is started with "priming" over night ...
lets see if its "stable" ...

http://img194.exs.cx/img194/7601/unbenannt6xo.jpg

[Revv23]

whoa what app is that and where can i get it?


BTW you should use larger FTT's for memory stressing... small FTT's remain in your CPU cache usually and hardly use any ram at all.

[BeSaiD]

Here in spain twinmos is not available anywhere... I've found 2x256 of that ones, but not 512 modules :(

[$ilver]

whoa what app is that and where can i get it?


BTW you should use larger FTT's for memory stressing... small FTT's remain in your CPU cache usually and hardly use any ram at all.
^^
GO SP2004
http://sp2004.fre3.com/download.htm

i thought small is for ram und large for cpu .. :stick: anyway .. lets start it again .. :D

[TEDY]

whoa what app is that and where can i get it?


BTW you should use larger FTT's for memory stressing... small FTT's remain in your CPU cache usually and hardly use any ram at all.


STRESS PRIME 2004

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Stress_Prime_2004/1087357319/1

[seldomsean]

230 2-2-2-11
3.2vdimm

2hours memtest #5 0 errors :)

setyotomo got no digicam...will do sometimes asap.

i got them for 160€ 2*512 :D

so happy


:banana4: Congrats TEDY !!!! :toast: :banana4:

[TEDY]

thanks will go with 240-245 range 3.3vdimm asap.

[$ilver]

my twinmos is 04484 ... 44D :D

[V1nce]

Mine got that code as well, I bought 2x256 last saturday. One does 251, the other will do 254 both (individually) tested @3,2V; 2-2-2-5. That's not enough to go really fast I'm afraid. My BH-5's go a little bit faster. So I will RMA these, but this is nice mem for only a $100

[setyotomo]

230 2-2-2-11
3.2vdimm

2hours memtest #5 0 errors :)

setyotomo got no digicam...will do sometimes asap.

i got them for 160€ 2*512 :D

so happy

aaaa youu got the 512x2 .....

btw no scanner also? i found them very useful since digicam who has macro lens <3cm is very expensive :p:

common tedy .. you waited so looooong .. push it more higher... :)

[TEDY]

240 2-2-2-11
3.2vdimm
1h:30min memtest 0 errors

w00t w00t :D...tomorrow aim = 250 :)

hope DFI NF2 will handle it...LOL

i might take a pic of them at pc store where i work :D

[Shroomalistic]

newegg should be getting the 512 sticks tomorrow, everybody get ready. You have to act fast

[LilGator]

mwuhahahaa ...

[Reefa_Madness]

The last few times its gone on sale it has been around 6:00 PM Eastern time when it became available. If you check during the day and it is still showing out-of-stock, be sure to tune in at 6.

[pik-ard v1.1]

and again at 9pm EST, which is when i got them. ;)

see my post here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=678551#post678551

oh, mine are scheduled to arrive thursday. will tell you if they are the magical "stepping" then.

[$ilver]

and again at 9pm EST, which is when i got them. ;)

see my post here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=678551#post678551

oh, mine are scheduled to arrive thursday. will tell you if they are the magical "stepping" then.
if some "magic" stepping exist (what the hell means "überhaupt" in english ... )

[pik-ard v1.1]

as in aa4t, not aadt. ;)

what is haupt?

[Garrett]

offtopic:
---------
German: es besteht überhaupt nicht
English: it doesn't (even) exist at all

Is that about correct, $ilver? ;)

Today's the day... gonna pick up my AA4T 44D modules now :thumbsup:

[bias_hjorth]

Remember to post the results in the forum :)

[TEDY]

i don't get

240 2-2-2-11 stable as rock at only 3.2vdimm :)

i needed 3.3vdimm with my KHX3200 BH-5 for that :)

[Rabbi_NZ]

i don't get

240 2-2-2-11 stable as rock at only 3.2vdimm :)

i needed 3.3vdimm with my KHX3200 BH-5 for that :)
Great :D, have you tried higher?

[Nazaar]

TEDY: i assume thats 2x512 ;)

[TEDY]

yep

245*9@1.75v // Vdd 1.7v // Vdimm 3.2v

now :)
omg :toast:

[Reefa_Madness]

245 at 3.2v makes those among the best with lower voltages. I have bh-5 that needs more than 3.2 to hit 245.

[Unseen]

at 3,63
04534

[esdee]

nice score unseen i guess this is on the giga board right?

And please tell the whole truth ... you have a maximizer admit it !!! :P

[Revv23]

unseen is a maximizer beta tester yes...

[Shroomalistic]

so who do I have to kill to get a maximizer cause the booster just isnt worth a crap in my msi. :CTF: :slash: or maybe its the winchesters fault

[Unseen]

send a pm to hipro. Maybe he can make one for you.

I think is msi that dont let you go high.

[esdee]

unseen is a maximizer beta tester yes...

yes i know ...:p:

@Shroomalistic i've hit an odd wall too at 241Mhz@3.55V and the UTT with the MSI
hipro5 with the same DIMMs did 241@3.2 and 257@3.55 (intel/AS8) full stable!

i wish the DFI NF4 can do 257 too, but ill have to wait and see :(

[seldomsean]

yep

245*9@1.75v // Vdd 1.7v // Vdimm 3.2v

now :)
omg :toast:

Very Nice Tedy!!!

Looks like you have some "KILLer Sticks " :toast:

I'm eager to see how they do after 5-7 days of burn...

[enzoR]

put 3.6 into those stickS.. 270 maybe?

[$ilver]

alright @ garret .. this evening iam trying 3,4-3,6 ^^ ..

[TEDY]

w0000000000000000000t

6:35hours prime stable

245*9@1.75v // Vdd 1.7v // Vdimm 3.2v

holly :banana::banana::banana::banana:

makes me wonder i could hit 255-260 with 3.3 ?

:D
http://freeweb.siol.net/tadej27/245.jpg

[$ilver]

w0000000000000000000t

6:35hours prime stable

245*9@1.75v // Vdd 1.7v // Vdimm 3.2v

holly :banana::banana::banana::banana:

makes me wonder i could hit 255-260 with 3.3 ?

:D
just if your boards doesnt see his end ..

[TEDY]

eh i used to have some TCCD ...managed 255 FSB easily...hehe

[pik-ard v1.1]

got mine from newegg a day early... and good news for me :D

AA4T on the sticker
04514 for the date
44D for whatever this means!

is week 51 a good one? i THINK it is... but im not sure...

now, for the rest of my parts to arrive. :stick:

[$ilver]

eh i used to have some TCCD ...managed 255 FSB easily...hehe
thats nice ;)

[danbob]

can u get this ram anywhere in canada?

[pik-ard v1.1]

doesnt seem like twinmos sells in canada... sorry :(

if ya have any good friends, or relatives in the states... get them to buy it for ya, and ship it to you.

[enzoR]

275 2-2-2 unlimited volts would impress me.

[Rabbi_NZ]

275 2-2-2 unlimited volts would impress me.
3.35v-3.38v 275 2-2-2 :D (http://webpages.charter.net/conrad-digital/Rabbi_NZ/8x275%202-2-2-10-1T.JPG)
But that is only a single stick, and it is VX not Twinmos.... wish I had a maximizer too cos I got no more volts to give these badboys

[bobmanfoo]

just recieved my 2x512 SPs, 04514 AA4T, :bounce: , last 4 digits of SN 0040 & 0041, will report back

[pik-ard v1.1]

just recieved my 2x512 SPs, 04514 AA4T, :bounce: , last 4 digits of SN 0040 & 0041, will report back
hmm, mine were 0023 and 0025, wonder if it means anything?

now i REALLY want to know how yours do... caus mine should do similar. :toast:

[Revv23]

send a pm to hipro. Maybe he can make one for you.

I think is msi that dont let you go high.


i tried that once, i got a very polite "no."

[TEDY]

damn at 250 i get errors :(

[bobmanfoo]

doing 200mhz fine at 3.25-3.33v, kinda dissapointed with the ddr booster, will report back

upped the ddr booster to give 3.32-3.39v doing 225mhz....

edit:
225 errored out, switched the rams in each slot, doing 235mhz, testing 240mhz

[Garrett]

Twinmos SP 44D 2x512mb... 3.3v gives me 257Mhz (in Dual Channel of course) :thumbsup:
http://www.frags4fun.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/carrot.gifhttp://www.frags4fun.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/carrot.gifhttp://www.frags4fun.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/carrot.gifhttp://www.frags4fun.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/carrot.gif
Now I guess I'll just let them burn in a few nights

[TEDY]

garrett what system ?

people please write in sig what's your system!!!!!

[Rabbi_NZ]

Twinmos SP 44D 2x512mb... 3.3v gives me 257Mhz (in Dual Channel of course) :thumbsup:
http://www.frags4fun.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/carrot.gifhttp://www.frags4fun.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/carrot.gifhttp://www.frags4fun.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/carrot.gifhttp://www.frags4fun.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/carrot.gif
Now I guess I'll just let them burn in a few nights
Garrett,
would you mind posting in this thread (VX/UTT Voltage Scaling, please contribute... (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50699) ) please?
Great memory you got there! :toast:

[Garrett]

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum 0412 with bios 1.4 (official)
AMD Athlon64 3500+ Newcastle @ 10x257@ 1.6v for now... mem won't go higher @ 3.3v yet... ;)
Twinmos Speed Premium week 48 2x512 @ DDR514 2-2-2-5
OCZ Powerstream 520W adjustable PSU

[pik-ard v1.1]

Garrett,
would you mind posting in this thread (VX/UTT Voltage Scaling, please contribute... (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50699) ) please?
Great memory you got there! :toast:
put that link in your sig, so i can find it in a week or so. :D

[Rabbi_NZ]

put that link in your sig, so i can find it in a week or so. :D
Done :)

[pik-ard v1.1]

thanks, i'll contribute as soon as a i can (1st half of february, most likely).

[Jack]

finally got my stuff :)
right now i have 6x 512mb lying here,
4x for myself, 2x for a roommate
will test 'm all tomorrow and post results here :)

good night

[pik-ard v1.1]

i assume its the AA4T?

ah, upgrading both your computers from 512kb -> 1gb?

watcha gonna do with 1gb of BH-5?

[Jack]

i assume its the AA4T?

ah, upgrading both your computers from 512kb -> 1gb?

watcha gonna do with 1gb of BH-5?
all AA4T 04484 44D
yes both pc will have a gig :)
cheapest gb i've ever bought ;)

and the bh-5 will be sold.
the bh-5 from the p4 isnt really tested yet,
3,2V vdimm and no vtt tracking doesnt really help with oc-ing the bh-5.
Gonna test it in the neo2 and gonna sell it then

btw pik-ard nice rig youre building there :toast:

[pik-ard v1.1]

yea, i never thought i would get away with 1gb of GOOD ram for under $200...

thanks, im just trying to get the best i can for what money i can afford to spend on it.

[Klisp]

Anyone know were to get this UTT in the states yet ? I allready sold my pervious sticks of Twinmos sticks allready and am ready for another gamble. :banana4:

[sparkie34]

Anyone know were to get this UTT in the states yet ? I allready sold my pervious sticks of Twinmos sticks allready and am ready for another gamble. :banana4:


A couple of guys have gotten them from newegg on their last two shipments. :toast:

[Da_BoKa]

mtec 50D chips here.
230 2-2-5 1h30m #5 memtest stable @ 3.3v will try for a lower vdimm tomorrow
240 gives me a lot of errors, even at 3.4v!
tonight i will be burning in at 3.3v

[pik-ard v1.1]

A couple of guys have gotten them from newegg on their last two shipments. :toast:
yea, noones said anything about getting aadt on the last few shipments. it's probably safe now to order from newegg.

i think people like you, klisp, flushed out the "bad" ram from the system. :toast:

[Rabbi_NZ]

mtec 50D chips here.
230 2-2-5 1h30m #5 memtest stable @ 3.3v will try for a lower vdimm tomorrow
240 gives me a lot of errors, even at 3.4v!
tonight i will be burning in at 3.3v
The MTEC UTT chips seem to be consistantly worse...

[Reefa_Madness]

If its not too much trouble...what's the date on those M.tec 50D ICs? New or older? If older, then those might be some relabeled ch-5 instead of the UTTs.

[Reefa_Madness]

The MTEC UTT chips seem to be consistantly worse...


There are M.tec 50Ds and there are some 60Ds. In the 60Ds there are some that have, in addition to the normal date codes ending in 4, an additional "-50" following the date (afte a little spacing). These with the "-50" seem to do a little better than the others.

Edit: a couple of the guys here reported hitting 265-270 with these "-50" variety and as I've previously mentioned, Diablo23RD over at OCF hit 255 with his (2x512 OCZ PC2700 Value Series Ram) on a 3.2 P4. I think that add'l coding means something...but what?

Alonso, if you see this...is there anything to that additional coding on the M.tec chips which comes after the date?

[Da_BoKa]

If its not too much trouble...what's the date on those M.tec 50D ICs? New or older? If older, then those might be some relabeled ch-5 instead of the UTTs.

those are 0448 chips!

[bobmanfoo]

seem to be hitting a wall at 235mhz, 240 errors out even with 3.5-3.58v, i tried both sticks seperately and they still error out at 240, its strange because this is the exact same wall i hit with 2x512 mushkin l2v2 tccd, help anyone?

[Reefa_Madness]

those are 0448 chips!

Clearly UTT chips, no doubt about it.


bobmanfoo,

"seem to be hitting a wall at 235mhz, 240 errors out even with 3.5-3.58v, i tried both sticks seperately and they still error out at 240, its strange because this is the exact same wall i hit with 2x512 mushkin l2v2 tccd, help anyone? "

Yours are the week 51 right?

Any chance your cpu or mobo is what's limiting you, since you hit that same wall with the TCCD?

[__TRONIK__]

I just wanted to add, since I have not, that when I got two sticks of speed premium a few weeks ago, and posted, I had gotten one stick of aa4t and one of aadt. I had posted I got two of aa4t. I was stupid and only looked at the first stick.

that first one has only been slightly tested - in a dfi lanparty ut with a super junky psu, I could only give it 3.2v, but it was doing 250 memtest stable. (couple errors, eliminated w/ fan). before I could give it a go on my good neo2, I went and fried that (note- the 24pin adapter on an OCZ powerstream is NOT optional.)
on my backup neo2, a junk refurb with a superbad 421 stepping or something, it was doing fine at 235, 3.4v, didnt go further with it, because I am testing the cpu overclock, and I noticed - it would not boot with a 166 divider. just would not - the "safe mode" kicked in eventually. Popped bh5 back in and the bh5 posts and tests fine at 280htt divided to 235, so it is defineately the ram. curious, anyone notice similar behavior? could jsut be this board, it is flaky.

the aadt stick went back to newegg, I am going to get a playmate for this aa4t as soon as it is back in stock. good 1gb kit for the DFI UT, or whatever future motherboard.

[Rabbi_NZ]

The "Divider Issue" is a known one with UTT modules... it happens with VX aswell. But it is only when the Neo2 is in the mix as far as I know...

[bobmanfoo]

well after i tried the mushkin, i got pdp tccd and hit 285mhz, so i don't think its cpu/mobo limited, should i be tweaking the timings with a64 tweaker?

[Shroomalistic]

6pm and still no 512mb sticks at newegg, whats going on. there usually on the money

[TEDY]

1 single stick 05034 AA4T 245 2-2-2-11 25 Loops #5 OK
3.3vdimm

at 250 hundreds of errors :(

[Garrett]

I tried 3.6v (LOL :D ) and 258 fsb... first hour no problem... then I fell asleep rofl
After 2 hours I woke up and had thousands of errors....wtf.... memory didn't feel hotter than the first hour :(

Then I tried 3.36v and 250 fsb which went well :)

2x512 DC again... see screenshot

http://home.planet.nl/~dikke332/memtest.jpg

[enok]

TEDY , it might be a board issue aswell. remember that most of the best oc results with UTT is from nF3/nF4 chipsets. (mem controler on cpu?)
from my experience i'm currently burning mine at 3.1v (3.15v at MBM) @ 244Mhz DC 1:1 2-2-2 1T. at 245 memtest freezes... so looks like board limit here. (244Mhz is good enough for AN7 tho :) )

now changing subject.
i'm using memtest+ 1.50. at 244Mhz i easy pass #5 but i have 6 erros (each pass) at #7. looking at everyone's burning's it seens like none cares with #7 test... everyone run #5 loops concluding it's 100% stable...
#7 is a random allocation test (something like that) so seens to be an important test, imho... but should i reconsider that and just stick to #5 results?

[tictac]

(244Mhz is good enough for AN7 tho :) )


:toast: 244MHz 2-2-2-X on AN7

is awesome :toast:

[TEDY]

enok : maybe better cooling or some ramsinks on mosfests

[Jack]

pics of the mem

http://home.student.utwente.nl/r.makkink/twinmosSPklein.JPG (http://home.student.utwente.nl/r.makkink/twinmosSP.JPG)

all 6 modules have the same chips on 'm

[tictac]

I already post Setyotomo 315MHz 2-2-2-5-2T DFI LP UT issue at DFI forums

Hope Oskar Wu will read it & fix the Bug :hehe:

You guys can check it over here:

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4864

[Revv23]

TEDY you running CPC on or off?

no way youll break 250 on an Nforce 2 with 2x512, especially with only 3.3vdimm...

i couldnt get my 2x512 bh-5 over 230 with cpc on, 245 cpc off... 230 was faster, each stick does 255 cpc on by its own though (3.3v). with 2x256 i can do 255 @3.3 and even 270 on a good day with 3.55...(CPC on)

[TEDY]

yeah CPC ON of course :)

i'm running it single stick now....245 2-2-2-x seems stable at 3.3vdimm.

I'm sure sticks can do at least 260 with 3.5vdimm or si :P

[Da_BoKa]

affter a night of burn in i'm able to set it to 3.2v at 230 2-2-5
235 is not stable, not even at 3.6v!
crappy mtec

[TEDY]

affter a night of burn in i'm able to set it to 3.2v at 230 2-2-5
235 is not stable, not even at 3.6v!
crappy mtec

yep MTEC suxors....what did you payed for ? sell them ? or RMA :cool:

[Da_BoKa]

about €45/pc

not that much, but still

[$ilver]

the pcb on the mtec is not soooooo good .. it really suxx on high vdimm ...

[enok]

enok : maybe better cooling or some ramsinks on mosfests

true, i also have ramsinks on all mosfets + 80'' smartfan with that thermo sensor on a stick.

@ tictac , tks but still waiting for ur bios! :p:

[reject]

look at the other ram timings in the a64 tweaker shot!!!!

[BeSaiD]

Does the Speed premium overclocks a lot better than the Twinmos with twinmos UTT Chips?

Thank yop.

[enok]

if both have UTT chips... it's the same! tho some SP have BP pcb... but their superioty over the KO pcb is yet to be seen.

[bobmanfoo]

if both have UTT chips... it's the same! tho some SP have BP pcb... but their superioty over the KO pcb is yet to be seen.
?? how do you know which pcb you have?

[Playful_Buffalo]

OT but i think we just passed the A64 oc'ing thread for total number of posts :toast:

[Da_BoKa]

the pcb on the mtec is not soooooo good .. it really suxx on high vdimm ...

it's the same pcb like the sp ones KO6633 ( if i'm not mistaken! )

[Jack]

tested my mem's today :)
# 1 : 261MHz
# 2 : 254MHz
# 3 : 240MHz
# 4 : 257MHz
# 5 : DOA
# 6 : 253MHz

3,65V, according to the multimeter
not too bad for out of the box, without burn in

pity one module is dead,
gonna rma that one with # 3...

next week burn-in :D

[largon]

it's the same pcb like the sp ones KO6633 ( if i'm not mistaken! )
AADTs (with PSC-chips) definately have pb. AA4T (MTec & TwinMos) have something similar to pb, prolly customised from pb.

[pik-ard v1.1]

what do you mean "pb"?

jack, what you did have work (except #3) look pretty good. i'd like to see what gains ya get from a burn in (and maybe 3.75v?)

[enok]

?? how do you know which pcb you have?

look on the borders of ur stick.

[Jack]

what do you mean "pb"?

jack, what you did have work (except #3) look pretty good. i'd like to see what gains ya get from a burn in (and maybe 3.75v?)
i think largon was mistaking and meant bp; brainpower...

i'll burn in all week, 5 days, upping vdimm 0,1V every day, from 3,2V - 3,6V.
not sure i'll be burning in at 3,75V, Garrett wrecked his twinmos after running 3,7V for one hour :stick:
already one of the sticks was dead, dont intend to rma more sticks...

[pik-ard v1.1]

look on the borders of ur stick.
mine say KO-6633... what's that mean? :stick:

jack, where did garrett tell about him ruining his sticks at 3.7v? and do you know if he had a fan over them to cool them?

[Jack]

mine say KO-6633... what's that mean? :stick:

jack, where did garrett tell about him ruining his sticks at 3.7v? and do you know if he had a fan over them to cool them?
my speed premium has the same pcb

but garretts post is here (http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/22669622#22669622) ;)
[garrett decided to run memtest once again, just for fun... and now he has errors even at 200mhz 2-2-2-5 1T]

[Garrett]

Damn right I do :(
Even at 2T omg... this is really really bad... I need to test them elsewhere, it could be my cpu messing around with its memcontroller, my BH5 sticks cause no problems whatsoever

And pik-ard I definitely have a fan blowing on these sticks, it may not help but it sure won't hurt ;)

[kristos]

I haven't been following this thread so pardon my asking but:

do only the speedpremiums have brainpower pcb or can the normal ones also have a brainpower pcb?
do the speedpremium only utilize a brainpower pcb or do some also use that other pcb?

how's performance between the two pcb's? is brainpower + utt chips better then that 6688 (or whatever it's called) pcb + utt better?

[NapalmV5]

What have you guys done to newegg?

Placed my order on the 13th, received the wrong item. RMAed, this past wed. they were gonna send me the same wrong item again, and today they have refunded my account since the mem is out of stock. I guess no UTT for me.

Oh well i'll probably go for some BH-5 here, http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51469

[Jessfm]

Anyone else have a short life on the UTT with >3.3v ?

[pik-ard v1.1]

3.3v? it took garrett up to 3.7v to kill his...

[largon]

what do you mean "pb"?
The time was 01:30AM... :rolleyes:

[enok]

@ kritos , the usual TwinMOS DC kit has KO pcb. TwinMOS SP has both KO and BP pcb, but there is no advantage from BP OC wise, from what it's known.

[Ulti]

i think largon was mistaking and meant bp; brainpower...

i'll burn in all week, 5 days, upping vdimm 0,1V every day, from 3,2V - 3,6V.
not sure i'll be burning in at 3,75V, Garrett wrecked his twinmos after running 3,7V for one hour :stick:
already one of the sticks was dead, dont intend to rma more sticks...

And RMA'ing to Germany is quite expensive also :rolleyes:
My Booster should get here on monday, going to mod it right away and going for 3.6V.

[largon]

Just got my 6 x 512MB TM SP AA4T/04484/44D... Anybody have an idea what to do in the weekend?
Hmm.. What about going ice-fishing?

[Shroomalistic]

so how well are the odds of getting aa4t 512mb sticks at newegg now.(once they get back in stock)

[tictac]

Just got my 6 x 512MB TM SP AA4T/04484/44D... Anybody have an idea what to do in the weekend?
Hmm.. What about going ice-fishing?

:lol: what do you want to do with that 3 pair of 1GB kit? :banana: :banana: :banana:

[Popcicle]

so how well are the odds of getting aa4t 512mb sticks at newegg now.(once they get back in stock)

...wish I knew myself so I could hit the buy button.



Pops.

[largon]

6x 512MB TwinMos SP AA4T/04484/44D
After few hours of testing:

DFI NF2 UI (no mods, SB+NB lapped 'n sinked + 80mm Adda, 92mm Zalman on the mems)
VDD default

CL2-2-2-6 SC CPCon @ 3.3V

#1 - 253
#2 - 249
#3 - 251
#4 - 248
#5 - 251
#6 - 245

#1 & #3 in DC:
240 2-2-2-6 CPCon @ 3.3V
79.90€ a piece...

Edit: 240 DC raised to 3.3V. Windows started flipping... :(

[Garrett]

Well... it's not the cpu... a 3000+ doesn't stop the erroring... I'm afraid I did burn these suckers to a crisp :(
Even with a fan blowing at them nonstop

[Zeus]

Well... it's not the cpu... a 3000+ doesn't stop the erroring... I'm afraid I did burn these suckers to a crisp :(
Even with a fan blowing at them nonstop

You seem to have a run of bad luck lately. :(

[bobmanfoo]

one of my sticks just upped and died on me.... gunna RMA the dead stick then sell of the gig, don't want to deal with these sticks anymore. just bought a gig of VX, burning it in.....

[tictac]

ABIT NF7 Rev2.0 : D26 Mantarays XT
2 x 256MB TwinMOS Speed Premium Winbond 44D
Vdimm = V io mod @ 3.34v
2-2-2-5
265MHz

:toast: :toast: :toast:

[TEDY]

that's not possible tictac...only 3.3 for 265 no way

i'll file a complain at your president (woman) :P

[TiTON]

Wow.. been trying to read the thread. Lots of reading.

Its nice to see memory that performs this well for a decent price.

I mean.. any PC3200 Performance memory (XMS / Ballistix / Lvl2 / HyperX) run atleast $70 for a single stick of 256.

I can't belive that the TwinMos SP is less then $40 for a single stick.

I might have to jump on this, and get a few sticks. :)

SAD