Xtreme Twinmos Memory!

[Rabbi_NZ]

seems TwinMOS simply speed bin ALL chips at 2.5-3-3 (or whatever the rated timings are) and then label them accordingly... Eg, 44D, 50D, 60D, etc.
Some chips may be good for 4.4ns (227 MHz) but not for 2-2-2 timings... eg Hynix 43B or whatever...

the date code ending in "4" may be what TwinMOS do in house to label Winbond chips... makes tracking down common errors with a certain supplier easier if they know where the chips were made.

AADT vs AA4T definately relates to the last digit of the date code by the looks...

[cardnut99668]

Sounds like we should cross our fingers the new stock they just got in is the "new" stuff.

[Reefa_Madness]

if there is any more controversey, i am gonna get a migraine


Aren't you too young to get migraines...I thought that was just for us old folks. :)

Besides, what controversy? This is just a fact finding mission we are all on at the moment. We are all on the same team here.

[X-GeN]

Some one else mentioned the 4 vs. the D on the date code. That info matches the product codes...if it performs well..it has a 4 after the date AND on the parts # label, if it doesn't, the ones with the D after the date code also have it in the part # and these do not clock as well.

The TwinMOS parts number is just indicating the same thing that is being printed on the chips themselves.

This 4 is what we should be looking for and is indicating the Winbond chips, whether or not it is a TwinMOS or an M.tec chip, they both are holding true on this.

:toast: At last :D

yes I also think that if the date ends with 4 it's winbond ! I have 2 sticks of 256mb twinmos at the moment. one is AA4T other is AADT. the AA4T stick's date ends with 4 and the AADT stick's date ends with D. I can't look at my 512mb sticks because they have heatspreaders on them. but as soon as possible I'm gonna look at them ;)

[Reefa_Madness]

Good news...newegg in stock!

Bad news...same old picture!

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-405&depa=1

[TEDY]

so it's a gamle ? i'm not ready spending 80$ for not good ram...

afterall outpost has back in stock KHX3200K2/1G -CH5...for 140$....

[mcnbns]

Is TwinMOS Speed Premium no longer "guaranteed" UTT?

[HermS]

@reefa - thanks man thats makes sense now. Theres just too many similar codes on these chips to make any sense of them :D

[Bluebeard]

Mine are identiacal to yours trans. But I can make out the winbond dots on the chips. No boot here either. So twinmos is saying all the NEWER stock will have the utt chips?

afaik only twinmos/m.tec (not all) and twinmos speed premium (newer ones with lets say "winbond dots") have winbond utt. normal twinmos/twinmos is psc, former speed premium was selected psc...

check out this page (http://http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/TwinMOS/SpeedPremium/) to find out something about the "old" TwinMOS Speed Premium

[seldomsean]

afaik only twinmos/m.tec (not all) and twinmos speed premium (newer ones with lets say "winbond dots") have winbond utt. normal twinmos/twinmos is psc, former speed premium was selected psc...

check out this page (http://http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/TwinMOS/SpeedPremium/) to find out something about the "old" TwinMOS Speed Premium


The link is NOT working for me ;)

[Rabbi_NZ]

the link is fine if you remove the first "http://" from the address bar

[trans am]

well my 2nd 256 does only 261 mhz 2-2-2 so it's slightly slower than my 1st stick. SO 261 with 2x256 is my high right now. need to do some burning in. I think it's safe to say newegg has the good 512 sticks now. My vx is still faster and it's a whole gig. 2x512 @264 but they were $260 at the time.

[Bluebeard]

:rolleyes:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/TwinMOS/SpeedPremium/

[trans am]

lol. alsonso. THose are the same ones I just got today. 0443. are you the alonso from the ocz VX blackmail letter?

[gulp35]

I said that the 4 in the date code correlated with the 4 in the P/N which also correlated with good overclockers back on pages 10 & 12....

TwinMOS , like much bought on the internet, was never garunteed of anything (except working at the default spped settings)... We were just following a lead on the product...

If you are having trouble figuring out if you want to open the package or not look at the p/n code if it ends in AA4T, open it and overclock at 2-2-2. If it has a "D", "D"on't open it!!!! IT WILL NOT OVERCLOCK AS WELL AS THE AA4T.

If you want it even more general, look at the chips.. If there is no Letters on the 2 row , (the row that has 5 digits on it *the same number as how many fingers you should have on one hand*) then you have a good stick of memory. Be happy.

End Transmission...

[Reefa_Madness]

Alonso,

Are you the same Alonso that posted over at BleedinEdge on these chips back on 12-16-04?

I sent you a PM asking about them but never got a response. I just figured that OCZ had BE close your account or something...you became a marked man for disclosing it. :)

Yours was the first post that I saw that pointed to the M.tec chips. Thanks for the tip.

Speaking of OCZ...has anyone seen a post from them on this topic since all of this M.tec stuff got out? I sure haven't.

Back to TwinMOS...I am going to hold off on those Speed Premiums at newegg until either the picture changes or someone else orders. My fellow member at OC Forums is holding 2 of the OCZ value line PC2700 with the M.tec chips and BP PCB so I think I'll get those. He hit his cpu's limit of 255 (a 3.2 P4) before without being limited by the ram and one of the guys here got 275 on a A64 with the same 60D (PC2700) chips, both at 2-2-2-x, using 3.6-3.7v, so that is plenty good for me.

[gulp35]

BTW Tictac's friend that got 267MHz 2-2-2, does not have AADT in the p/n, his date codes end with a 4.....

TicTac got the AADT p/n and was dissapointed in his overclock but wanted to show the successes of his friends using the AA4T (the ones with 4 at the end of the date code)



PS ... What are these chips doing on 3.2v... I only just got a DFi 250Gb and the max volts without tweaks is 3.2v...

[Rabbi_NZ]

jus something about tictac's modules.... im pretty sure he bought his about 6 months ago.... so they were never going to be good

[Bluebeard]

well, i hope ocz guys will still have a beer or two with me on cebit 2005 :rolleyes:

btw. i have nothing to do with the letter but i´m the same alonso as here ;)


@ reefa


sry... i just didn´t look up my pm...

[Skip]

Turned up the brightness and contrast... I see one middle dot on the IC far right (middle dot nearess top) cant seem to see the other one though. Havnt got PS installed to probe for further investigation :D

well i'm assuming that if it has one middle dot, it has the other.... am i right in assuming that? which IC only has the one side of middle dots like winbond?

[Reefa_Madness]

BTW Tictac's friend that got 267MHz 2-2-2, does not have AADT in the p/n, his date codes end with a 4.....

TicTac got the AADT p/n and was dissapointed in his overclock but wanted to show the successes of his friends using the AA4T (the ones with 4 at the end of the date code)



PS ... What are these chips doing on 3.2v... I only just got a DFi 250Gb and the max volts without tweaks is 3.2v...


I knew that someone else had already posted that about the date and the 4 vs D but couldn't remember who had done it. Good call on that.

Also, thanks for the clarification about tictac's friend. It just didn't seem right, after all the fact finding that we've done, for those sticks to do well and be AADTs. It would have put large holes in our theories. Glad you cleared that up.

Our theories are still valid so far.

TM Parts # of 4 = date code with #4 on chip = Winbond UTT = great chips!

[tictac]

< weeks 44 : not utt

> weeks 44 : utt

:slap:

[Reefa_Madness]

well, i hope ocz guys will still have a beer or two with me on cebit 2005 :rolleyes:

btw. i have nothing to do with the letter but i´m the same alonso as here ;)


@ reefa


sry... i just didn´t look up my pm...


So then they didn't close your account and kick you off BE? j/k

[trans am]

< weeks 44 : not utt

> weeks 44 : utt

:slap:


Why did you remove the pics of your friends??

nevermind they are back. date ending with 4 :toast:

[tictac]

no didnt remove geocities running out of bandwith

anyway his thread is just Bellow this thread

Benny Lodewijk & Setyotomo

they are my friends... now they doing bulk order as well :)

They hand picked it direct from distributor :)

[Skip]

http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-141-402-02.JPG&Type=Refurbished

those say winbond right on them.

[trans am]

http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-141-402-02.JPG&Type=Refurbished

those say winbond right on them.

lol thats an old picture of BH5

[Skip]

oh, someone should call up the egg and see if that is the actual pic!

i don't think newegg works like that though.

[Reefa_Madness]

oh, someone should call up the egg and see if that is the actual pic!

i don't think newegg works like that though.


Actually, that is not a bad idea...if the picture has just not been updated (they did that with the Buffalo Tech PC3700 and Winbond) but the ram has the new ones they will sell a ton of them. With the old pictures the only way we are going to know is if someone takes the plunge.

If we call and ask them to check the product codes and not say anything about dates or the pictures, we will get all the info we need. I will try that and report back.

[Bennah]

Trans AM already got in contact with them. It is an old pic. I really doubt that they would be like that.

[cardnut99668]

That buffalo bh-5 and that is the correct pic?

[Skip]

so the buffulo pc3700 on the egg isn't bh-5, bummer. 88$ woulnd't be bad at all for a 512mb dimm.

[Reefa_Madness]

The pic is old, there is no BT with BH-5 at newegg unless you get lucky with a refurb.

Well, I called them and the person that I spoke with attempted to help me, but in the end their supervisor told them that because they have 7 warehouses across the country they could not help me. They did verify that they will NOT change the picture, even if it no longer reflects the correct part # because it is still the same item, as far as they are concerned. And no one got upset with me for asking. I just told them that I had one stick with the AA4T part # and was trying to match it with another.

As they say nothing ventured...nothing gained.

We are right back to where we were which is someone needing to order from newegg to see what they are shipping.

That or finding KVR with the right chips at the local BB or CC or whatever store is near your area.

I've got a guaranteed in 2 OCZ PC2700 being held for me with the M.tec chips, so I will not be ordering from the egg. Someone else will have to be the one.

[mcnbns]

Which specific part numbers of OCZ ones use the M.tec chips?

[Jessfm]

Mainly this info will help UK ppl.

But I have managed to find some 4AAT stuff.

Got these from www.tekheads.co.uk , they has sopme 44D stuff too and some ADATA that looked like the right stuff, but I could'nt work out the chip codes.

Booted at 200 2,2,2,5 right away too ;)

http://www.ricco.karoo.net/images/CIMG0151.JPG

http://www.ricco.karoo.net/images/CIMG0152.JPG

http://www.ricco.karoo.net/images/CIMG0153.JPG

They had some 512 stciks that looked right, but I wanted 256's and the they only had 2 x PC2700 , all right and week code is right, but these are 60D ( BH-6 ?)
Also picked up a OCZ booster too, but who can tell if its actualy doing anything since Neo2 dont have DDRvolts sense ???

Whats the best way to curn these in, run them at 200 2.
,2,2,5 with 3.0v ??

[Shroomalistic]

Has anyone got the 512mb sticks of this stuff yet? I just orders to 512mb speed premiums from newegg, the pic says they are aadt's. any chance they my actually be aa4t's

[tictac]

Mainly this info will help UK ppl.

But I have managed to find some 4AAT stuff.

Got these from www.tekheads.co.uk , they has sopme 44D stuff too and some ADATA that looked like the right stuff, but I could'nt work out the chip codes.

Booted at 200 2,2,2,5 right away too ;)
They had some 512 stciks that looked right, but I wanted 256's and the they only had 2 x PC2700 , all right and week code is right, but these are 60D ( BH-6 ?)
Also picked up a OCZ booster too, but who can tell if its actualy doing anything since Neo2 dont have DDRvolts sense ???

Whats the best way to curn these in, run them at 200 2.
,2,2,5 with 3.0v ??

Lucky you

weeks 49 2004

that is Winbond UTT

there is no BH6 anymore :)

[Reefa_Madness]

Has anyone got the 512mb sticks of this stuff yet? I just orders to 512mb speed premiums from newegg, the pic says they are aadt's. any chance they my actually be aa4t's

Brand new shipment, just became available at 6:00 P.M. US Eastern time. I called them and they said that they would not update the picture as long as the product was the same thing (TwiNMOS Speed Premium PC3200).


You want to be the first to order from this lot?

One of the guys from OC Forums got OCZ's Value line PC2700 in 512 sticks with the M.tec chips like those pictured above (except his have the "-50" after the date like some of those that have been pictured already) and they did 255 with 2-2-2-6 at 3.6v on his 3.2 P4 rig. He feels like he maxed his cpu and not the ram.

edit:
Man...I just had a terrible thought...what if the 4x256 that I ordered earlier in the week come back as AADT because they are shipped from a different w/h than the others. I ordered those based on the picture and now there is no guarantee that (AA4T) is what I'm getting. Crap!

[Shroomalistic]

i guess ill be the gunie pig, from what it looks like the newer chips are the utt's. Hopefully ill get lucky.

[Reefa_Madness]

I hope you do get lucky, cause there will be a flood of orders behind yours if you do. Actually, I think the odds are probably in your favor.

[tictac]

This 1 got AA4T in the pic

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-404&depa=1

[Shroomalistic]

I hope you do get lucky, cause there will be a flood of orders behind yours if you do. Actually, I think the odds are probably in your favor.


I was kinda thinking the same thing. Checks going out first thing in the morning so it will take about a week to get here. Hopefully someone else will get it sooner.

[Revv23]

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-218-057&DEPA=1

i have two of these on the way

[Shroomalistic]

This 1 got AA4T in the pic

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-404&depa=1


that 256mb tho. you got any pics of a 512mb stick

[__TRONIK__]

I'm in for 2x512 of the speed premium @ newegg. assumption was that a new shipment meant newest dates (on cpus anyway), but then, it seems newegg's stuff only has latest dates if you get OEM. I wanted the brainpower pcb though, if VX has it, it can't hurt. If they dont work out, Ill eat the restock and try 2x512 of the 2700. then I have to sell some mem. really. and a couple of motherboards. really.

[Revv23]

the 512 2700 at newegg had AADT in the pic, which steered me away from it.

[mcnbns]

http://www.computergate.com/products/item.cfm?prodcd=ISRTM512D4&bcodes=

TwinMOS 512MB PC3200! They even specified MTec chips. Too bad they don't ship to Canada. :upset:

[Shroomalistic]

I'm in for 2x512 of the speed premium @ newegg. assumption was that a new shipment meant newest dates (on cpus anyway), but then, it seems newegg's stuff only has latest dates if you get OEM. I wanted the brainpower pcb though, if VX has it, it can't hurt. If they dont work out, Ill eat the restock and try 2x512 of the 2700. then I have to sell some mem. really. and a couple of motherboards. really.


I was kind thinking the same route there.

[trans am]

Shroomalistic. you have a very good chance of the newer date. since we cleared newegg's stock. 99.999999% chance THey should have latest from twinmos.
If it comes back as old, you can always contact twinmos directly and see if they will take them in exchange for new ones. This is the safest bet, and I doubt they would say no.

[Reefa_Madness]

Trans am,

Do you have a contact person at TwinMOS, someone that could be contacted in the event an RMA was "needed".

I just realized something...you and I would be receiving stock from the same NJ distribution center of newegg's so that improves my chances of getting the AA4T in my 4x256 Speed Premium order. Provided it was sent from there and not one of the others, of course. I hope to get mine tomorrow and test over the weekend.

Anybody had any luck with Kingston value ram. My fellow member at OC Forums says the sticks are flying out the door because of the rebate but I haven't even heard of anybody here or at OCF having bought any. He says their sticks have 66 legs so those that I have with 54 legs must be something else. I'm quite sure those are going back to CC.

[Skip]

http://www.computergate.com/products/item.cfm?prodcd=ISRTM512D4&bcodes=

TwinMOS 512MB PC3200! They even specified MTec chips. Too bad they don't ship to Canada. :upset:

that would be awesome if they specified the PCB also.

[trans am]

Trans am,

Do you have a contact person at TwinMOS, someone that could be contacted in the event an RMA was "needed".

I just realized something...you and I would be receiving stock from the same NJ distribution center of newegg's so that improves my chances of getting the AA4T in my 4x256 Speed Premium order. Provided it was sent from there and not one of the others, of course. I hope to get mine tomorrow and test over the weekend.

Anybody had any luck with Kingston value ram. My fellow member at OC Forums says the sticks are flying out the door because of the rebate but I haven't even heard of anybody here or at OCF having bought any. He says their sticks have 66 legs so those that I have with 54 legs must be something else. I'm quite sure those are going back to CC.


all my sticks came from California warehouse. The person you need to call at twinmos is XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX are you planning on using all 4 256 sticks on one board? make sure your board can handle 4, most only handle 3.

[Reefa_Madness]

Not much to go on as far as number of responses.

http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2015.html

[Revv23]

i saw some KVR 3200 at circuit city for $32 per 256mb about two weeks ago, maybe ill head back and have a looksee.

[Reefa_Madness]

all my sticks came from California warehouse. The person you need to call at twinmos is ALice Lo. 510-490-3838 ext. 101 you didn't get it from me. are you planning on using all 4 256 sticks on one board? make sure your board can handle 4, most only handle 3.

I have several mobos to play with, none of these sticks are for 24/7 use. I'll play on A64 (MSI K8N Neo2 w/Winchester 3000) as well as P4 (Epox 4PDA2 Rev2 w/2.4/2.6/3.0). I also have a couple of NF7-S with mobile XPs that might play nice with these 256 sticks. I am trying to get my nerves up and my hand steady enough to try some volt mods on one of them. I've bought them cheap enough that it won't kill me if I fry one.

I don't usually (ok...ever) get stellar results, pretty much middle of the road, but I like to play around with it when the wife and kids have gone to bed.

btw - thanks for the name that you didn't really give me.

[Revv23]

i learned all my soldering skills on a friends dead NF7....

[Reefa_Madness]

Was it dead before you started? :)

[Shroomalistic]

http://www.memoryx.net/memx/256d8d32832tm.html

these look like them also. this is where my 3700 twinmos was purchased from also.

[Revv23]

Was it dead before you started? :)


well not exactly, he didnt want it as he bought an NF7-S2 (read:crap) and he got stuck with it, so i took a torch to it and removed all the caps/chokes, then i soldered/desoldered a resisor to about five different places on the mobo, then i practiced removing SMD's, and soldering to the empty solder pads... i tried to remove some mosfets but i couldnt figue out how to get the long edge up...

im going to cut a few traces next chance i get and practice soldering in those...

my biggest problem was getting the resistors to stick the the SMD's, ive done a few vmods on videocards before this, but this was some pretty tight space for a soldering iron, im still far from where i need to be for that kind of mod...

[jumanji969]

The thing is with the 512mb sticks at newegg, all the pics show AADT not 4T.

[Reefa_Madness]

Yes, they all show the DT. Until those that have ordered get theirs we just sit and wait.

Or we pull out the wallets and join the gamblers.

[tictac]

Yes, they all show the DT. Until those that have ordered get theirs we just sit and wait.

Or we pull out the wallets and join the gamblers.

pull out your wallets and join the gamblers :banana: :banana: :banana:

[LilGator]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-405&depa=1

Just to clarify, this is what we should gamble on ?

And these are not good, correct ? [http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-062&depa=1]

[Reefa_Madness]

pull out your wallets and join the gamblers :banana: :banana: :banana:


tictac,

I've pulled it out and put it back so many times in the last couple of hours that I think I've just about worn it out. :)

I am waiting to see what I get when I receive my 4x256 (I've already gambled somewhat) before I decide how much more I want to get into this.

I have a "sure thing" in the OCZ PC2700 that one of the members at OCF is holding for me so I will probably go that route. He has tested one of them and it maxed his cpu at 255 with 3.6v and they use the Brainpower PCB so I have very little to gain by gambling on the TwinMOS. One of the guys reported having hit 270 on an A64 with the PC2700 rated M.tec chips. Anything between 255-270 at 2-2-2-x is better than what I currently have.

[Reefa_Madness]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-405&depa=1

Just to clarify, this is what we should gamble on ?

And these are not good, correct ? [http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-062&depa=1]


The first link is less of a gamble if you agree with the theory that since newegg sold out of those and we've been told that the newer Speed Premiums will have the Winbond UTT, it would make sense that the new stock would be the ones with the AA4T product codes (which denotes the Winbond chips).

The second link is more of a gamble because it is still old stock and it shows the AADT code Plus I'm not even sure that anyone has bought these.

[Jessfm]

Well not going so well for my find
http://www.ricco.karoo.net/images/CIMG0153.JPG

At 3.3v is erroring at 217mhz 2,2,2,x and will reboot randomly at 220mhz .
( Neo2 with 1.41mod)

still the badwidth is slightly higher then the TCCD at 200 2,2,2,5 .

Might try in my P4m IS7e later today.

Seems the -44 is the stuff to find.

[Skip]

maybe you need to bump up the voltage, if you didn't get the right chips i don't think they had any chance of going 2-2-2 at any timings really.

[Highland3r]

Mainly this info will help UK ppl.

But I have managed to find some 4AAT stuff.

Got these from www.tekheads.co.uk , they has sopme 44D stuff too and some ADATA that looked like the right stuff, but I could'nt work out the chip codes.

Booted at 200 2,2,2,5 right away too ;)

.. pics ..

They had some 512 stciks that looked right, but I wanted 256's and the they only had 2 x PC2700 , all right and week code is right, but these are 60D ( BH-6 ?)
Also picked up a OCZ booster too, but who can tell if its actualy doing anything since Neo2 dont have DDRvolts sense ???

Whats the best way to curn these in, run them at 200 2.
,2,2,5 with 3.0v ??

Did you get in contact with tekheads to find out what chips were on that mem? Or did you just buy on the off chance?

<edit>
Adata from tekheads, Model Number: MDGVD4F3H4X1B1CZK
PCB : BUDA84A,Height (29.21mm),single sided component, Six layers

This seem like the right/decent stuff? (Thats a 512mb module, 2700)

Model No: MDGVD4F3G31LB1CZH thats on 256mb sticks, adata 2700
Same PCB as above....
</edit>

[X-GeN]

give it more juice (3.5-3.6) :banana4: and they will do at least 255fsb :toast:

[The Stilt]

Got 1GB kit of UTT :D
It is just matter of luck which chips you will get, since I got four other sticks with PSC and Micron chips under same order number.

Label (http://www.akiba-pc.com/Twinmos-UTT/UTT_On_Twinmos1.jpg)

Chips (http://www.akiba-pc.com/Twinmos-UTT/UTT_On_Twinmos2.jpg)

[Highland3r]

Tekheads have DC kits with the -TT ending of the code, same as the komplett chips...
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601808
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601809

Are these worth looking into?

[X-GeN]

Tekheads have DC kits with the -TT ending of the code, same as the komplett chips...
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601808
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601809

Are these worth looking into?

that is the model number's ending ;) we are looking at product number ending. which is on that big sticker :)

[TEDY]

Got 1GB kit of UTT :D
It is just matter of luck which chips you will get, since I got four other sticks with PSC and Micron chips under same order number.

Label (http://www.akiba-pc.com/Twinmos-UTT/UTT_On_Twinmos1.jpg)

Chips (http://www.akiba-pc.com/Twinmos-UTT/UTT_On_Twinmos2.jpg)


where did you bought them ?

[The Stilt]

where did you bought them ?
Ordered from a distributor, as I´m a reseller ;)

[tictac]

Ordered from a distributor, as I´m a reseller ;)

ok now we wait new world record.... :toast:

Any new world record attempt with this new chip :banana: :banana:

[GazC]

WARNING FELLOW UK'ers!!!!

I ordered these from Komplett:

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=113517&cks=PRL

The sticks are utter garbage,

AADT model numbers

but they have a mixture of 03 model Twinmos branded 50D winbond chips and another non-descript unknown chip, also branded by twinmos as 50D

what gets me is the winbond blanks have date codes of 03104

The unknowns have 0343D, so the chips have obviously all come from a "grab bin"

It must be warned that Komplett cannot be regarded as a reliable source. I guess we must simply wait until speed premium comes to the UK.

I'm not even testing these chips, they are going straight into the business computer (which allows me to sell my 2x512 of 3700EB which has been standing in on my business computer until I got some cheap ram ;)).

The proceeds from the EB will allow me to buy some speed premium when it becomes available.

[HermS]

Same here GazC, Mine showed up from Komplett this morning, AADT model number and the IC's were a mix of 0343D & 0348D.

[Kamz]

What about the winbond modules, komplett sell, surely theymust be UTT???

kamz

(PS i just pre-ordered 2*512 twinmoss with winbond, if these are not the ones, let us know, so i can cancel them :)

[tictac]

AADT is not UTT

better luck next time :slap:

[GazC]

Same here GazC, Mine showed up from Komplett this morning, AADT model number and the IC's were a mix of 0343D & 0348D.


These sticks will not even POST in my shops computer, they are/one is either DOA or total uber garbage! :mad:

Ah well, RMA time :(

What about the winbond modules, komplett sell, surely theymust be UTT???

iirc, unrealneo bought some and they were CH-5.

[hipro5]

Got 1GB kit of UTT :D
It is just matter of luck which chips you will get, since I got four other sticks with PSC and Micron chips under same order number.

Label (http://www.akiba-pc.com/Twinmos-UTT/UTT_On_Twinmos1.jpg)

Chips (http://www.akiba-pc.com/Twinmos-UTT/UTT_On_Twinmos2.jpg)

You lucky guy..........and yes those are the ones.......... :D

[Shroomalistic]

damn, those pics really give me hope. Now that I see they really exist in 512mb moduals. :banana4:

[tictac]

ya we are waiting new world record

anyone?

[X-GeN]

ya we are waiting new world record

anyone?

what is the record at the moment :confused: (for 2x256 and for 2x512 pairs)

[esdee]

Ordered from a distributor, as I´m a reseller ;)

so you make sure no one gets better RAM than yours in finland? :D

[Jessfm]

Tekheads have DC kits with the -TT ending of the code, same as the komplett chips...
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601808
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601809

Are these worth looking into?

Yes I looked at them yesterday, ( I actualy had all their twinmoss out ;) )

I posted this previously , but i only wanted 2x256 so oppted for the D60

[The Stilt]

so you make sure no one gets better RAM than yours in finland? :D

;)
It has happened before, and it will happen again :D
Once ruled whole Kingston BH-5 markets in Finland, so this shouldn´t be a problem.

[esdee]

;)
It has happened before, and it will happen again :D
Once ruled whole Kingston BH-5 markets in Finland, so this shouldn´t be a problem.

lol !!!

[Revv23]

im really crossing my fingers with this 2700, i hope itll run DDR400 even if its not winbond, that way i can use it in my old PC and finnaly sell it (ive been peicemealing it together with old parts for a while now)

[jumperfly]

Got in touch with tekheads and got the following date codes from them:
04514 - http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601519
0452D - http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601277

[neop]

phew i live in singapore, tml gonna go down to twinmos office to chose the rams
jus a recap, AA4T for the p/n
and 04464 or after week 46
and the 2 obvious dots, and it'll be done right?

finally can get rid of my hynix dt d43, damn loose timings

btw i still dun understand the 2 metal dots on each side thingy

[celemine1Gig]

Got in touch with tekheads and got the following date codes from them:
04514 - http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601519
0452D - http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=601277



The one with the 4 at the end should be Winbond based.

[quicksilverXP]

My question is. Can you order from Newegg, and if the picture doesn't match the product.... can you return it without a rest:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing fee? If so, I'll take my chances with the AA4T pictures... and if they send me anything else I'll ask for a refund.

[jumperfly]

The one with the 4 at the end should be Winbond based.
Yeah I know, that's what I ordered, fingers crossed :)

[TEDY]

my friend ordered from newegg...:banana::banana::banana::banana: it i'll take chances...

[gulp35]

Well not going so well for my find
http://www.ricco.karoo.net/images/CIMG0153.JPG

At 3.3v is erroring at 217mhz 2,2,2,x and will reboot randomly at 220mhz .
( Neo2 with 1.41mod)

still the badwidth is slightly higher then the TCCD at 200 2,2,2,5 .

Might try in my P4m IS7e later today.

Seems the -44 is the stuff to find.

This brings up another qualification for the RAM Chips....

The 3rd line should start with TMD not TTD....

Don't confuse this with the -TT at the end of the Model Number

[TEDY]

what has to be that we can 100% say its UTT ?

1.week above 44
2. AA4T

that's all ?

[The Stilt]

Looks pretty promising on Gigabyte NF4 board ;)
Results soon :D

[esdee]

Looks pretty promising on Gigabyte NF4 board ;)
Results soon :D

can't wait !!

[gulp35]

1.AA4T in P/n
2. Date (second line on mem chips) after 0444
3. 4 following the date (related to number 1)
4. chip serial code (3rd line on mem chips) starts with TMD

Thats all I can remember right now

[Torin]

Or you can pay OCZ to check all this stuff for you and package it up as VX. :p:

[Bennah]

Well took the plundge and ordered 4 sticks of the speed premium off the egg. Now its just hope :D

[enzoR]

but at 100$ more

[neop]

AA4T comes in both 256 and 512 flavours? or jus 256

[enzoR]

yep in both :)

[Revv23]

My question is. Can you order from Newegg, and if the picture doesn't match the product.... can you return it without a rest:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing fee? If so, I'll take my chances with the AA4T pictures... and if they send me anything else I'll ask for a refund.


if you order twinmos PC3200 and its got the same model number but not the same product code as the picture, its still the same product, so that wont work.

[The Stilt]

Sorry guys, spoke too soon.
This stuff really sucks :(

With 3.2V they run fine at 215FSB with 2-2-2-5-7-12 settings, but after that it´s xtremely unstable even if I raise voltage up to 3.6V.

Maybe I should try with some nForce3 board, but these sticks are still a big disappointment. Hope you other guys get better sticks than I did.

Needless to say, but BH-5 is still number one.

[trans am]

try 2-2-2-10-14-16 1T just to start out. or leave everything at auto after tras. That seems really crappy. is this 2 sticks or 1? just try 1 stick for now. could be 1 bad stick. all it takes is one bad apple to spoil the bunch in dual channel.

[enzoR]

2-3-2-6 maybe?

[The Stilt]

Tried both sticks one by one and loosed some timings, but it didn´t gain much :(

[enzoR]

does it have the dimples on the chips so your sure they are winbond?

[The Stilt]

does it have the dimples on the chips so your sure they are winbond?

It does.

[enzoR]

:( this put my hopes down alot.
i need to find someone selling BH-5 and willing to ship to NL :p:

[EnJoY]

YGPM enzor! :)

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=45&threadid=1485208&enterthread=y - Selling mucho ram, BH5/BH6, EB!

[trans am]

It does.

what kind did you get?

[Highland3r]

Had this reply from tekheads re the codes on their TwinMos modules

"The chip numbers are as follows

The 512MB sticks = ttd7608f8e501
The 256MB sticks = tmd7608f8e50d

Thanks"

It doesnt say which modules these chips are on though...

[jumperfly]

As I've already said, I got this info from tekheds with regard to the single pc3200 modules...
"The 256MB = 04514
the 512MB = 0452D

Thanks"

Which suggests the 256mb are good, 512 aren't - your info backs that up with the TMD/TTD. Will let you know what they're like when they arrive (have ordered 2x256).

[swami]

What about the winbond modules, komplett sell, surely theymust be UTT???

kamz

(PS i just pre-ordered 2*512 twinmoss with winbond, if these are not the ones, let us know, so i can cancel them :)

They're ch-5, I ordered 4 and was sent 1 x WB chips and 3 x ICs of random manufacturers. So :dammit: RMA time again....

[Kamz]

They're ch-5, I ordered 4 and was sent 1 x WB chips and 3 x ICs of random manufacturers. So :dammit: RMA time again....

Sorry to hear that mate, im thinking we uk guys should wait for speed premimum to hit these shores, otherwsie it seems like a hit or miss.

Alternatively i will be getting up early to check out the computer fair tomorrow as they always have twinmos ram there, anything but twinmos. heh he heh.

**Edit komplett have now updated their website and state CH5 on the winbond modules...

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=115491&cks=PRL

[Reefa_Madness]

This brings up another qualification for the RAM Chips....

The 3rd line should start with TMD not TTD....

Don't confuse this with the -TT at the end of the Model Number


X-Gen at post #271 posted that his were just like the ones in the pictures and his were TTD, but they had the "-50" after the date codes.

Man, I don't know if there is any pattern here or simply, as the OCZ guys said in some of the earlier VX discussions, they don't all pass the testing. We may simply have a case of our own "speed binning" going on. Some chips do well, others don't.

The only ones that seem to be "sure things" right now are the 256MB PC3200 TwinMOS Speed Premium with the AA4T sticker codes and the date code on the ram ending with a 4, plus the "44D" speed rating on the chips. All of these seem to be doing well.

TwinMOS is probably binning these wouldn't you think?

[swami]

Alternatively i will be getting up early to check out the computer fair tomorrow

Anywhere in london by any chance? :toast:

[Highland3r]

Sorry to hear that mate, im thinking we uk guys should wait for speed premimum to hit these shores, otherwsie it seems like a hit or miss.

Alternatively i will be getting up early to check out the computer fair tomorrow as they always have twinmos ram there, anything but twinmos. heh he heh.

**Edit komplett have now updated their website and state CH5 on the winbond modules...

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=115491&cks=PRL

Theres no price or buy button on those LOL!

[jumperfly]

The link to that doesn't exist, where did that link come from whoever posted it? Kompletts link still leads here (http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=115490&cks=PRL) (product code is 1 less) and there is still no mention of ch-5 chips there (yes I know they are though). Price has also gone up... by... wait for it... A PENNY

[tictac]

Sorry guys, spoke too soon.
This stuff really sucks :(

With 3.2V they run fine at 215FSB with 2-2-2-5-7-12 settings, but after that it´s xtremely unstable even if I raise voltage up to 3.6V.

Maybe I should try with some nForce3 board, but these sticks are still a big disappointment. Hope you other guys get better sticks than I did.

Needless to say, but BH-5 is still number one.

Seems The plain Twinmos didnt really rocks... :rolleyes:

Next time make sure it is Speed Premium :slap:

[bias_hjorth]

hehe you sure love the slapping smilie :D

[Skip]

when sentinel was talking about his vx thoughts a while back the ocz guys said that they use those chips (forgot if he was talking about winbond utt or not) in their value series.

anybody happen to know which OCZ value ram, if any has UTT? except if they do sell it, it might be failed vx, which would seal the rams overclocking fate.

[Reefa_Madness]

when sentinel was talking about his vx thoughts a while back the ocz guys said that they use those chips (forgot if he was talking about winbond utt or not) in their value series.

anybody happen to know which OCZ value ram, if any has UTT? except if they do sell it, it might be failed vx, which would seal the rams overclocking fate.


Is this what you were looking for? See post #33.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=350856&page=2

I'm inclined to think that if you find it then it was made before they realized that they could use the chips in the VX and sell them for more. I have been looking for it and all that I can now locate has the OCZ branded chips, not the M.tec chip like the ones in the link. Note that these are also TTD and not TMD coded chips. The link above is to screenshots of a P4 (at 255 with 2-2-2-6 timings), if I remember correctly.

[X-GeN]

X-Gen at post #271 posted that his were just like the ones in the pictures and his were TTD, but they had the "-50" after the date codes.

Man, I don't know if there is any pattern here or simply, as the OCZ guys said in some of the earlier VX discussions, they don't all pass the testing. We may simply have a case of our own "speed binning" going on. Some chips do well, others don't.

The only ones that seem to be "sure things" right now are the 256MB PC3200 TwinMOS Speed Premium with the AA4T sticker codes and the date code on the ram ending with a 4, plus the "44D" speed rating on the chips. All of these seem to be doing well.

TwinMOS is probably binning these wouldn't you think?

I dont know if mine are TTD and I also dont know the week. I've got heat spreaders on them at the moment, so I cant look now. And you know its hard to get them off :rolleyes:

[trans am]

hehe you sure love the slapping smilie :D
ROFL!
:slap:

[mcnbns]

hehe you sure love the slapping smilie :D
I've noticed that for a long time, but I didn't want to disrespect one of the coolest BIOS modders of all time. :D
:slap: :shrug:

:banana2: < Alternate lifestyle banana! :banana:

TwinMOS! Curse your nonexistent Canadian suppliers!

[TEDY]

lol :slap: rox :stick:

[mcnbns]

How about that topic, eh? Yep... Yes, sir... Uh... :slap:?

:exclamati ALERT :spam: :exclamati

[Kamz]

Anywhere in london by any chance? :toast:

Yep you guessed it, i got around three down my ways, if i get any luck, ill pass info on if your from london (i may only vist one tomorrow thou)...

[Kamz]

Theres no price or buy button on those LOL!

The link to that doesn't exist, where did that link come from whoever posted it? Kompletts link still leads here (http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=115490&cks=PRL) (product code is 1 less) and there is still no mention of ch-5 chips there (yes I know they are though). Price has also gone up... by... wait for it... A PENNY

Something real weird is going on, i bookmarked this page on komplett I think on Thursday, I checked on Friday and they said there was stocking scheduled for the 17th, but then the page went down, only to reappear two minutes later, with the added info that they were CH5. They also stated a price of 49 pounds for a 512 stick, the reason for me constantly checking cos i thought maybe komplett have clocked on and started increasing the price, but i now reckon they probably contacted their supplier and found out that the next lot wont be CH5. Maybe they took the updated page down cos they can’t confirm that the next lot are either 1) winbond or 2) winbond CH5??

[stealthbomber]

Komplett is expecting some more of those twinmoss CH-5 winbond modules, just noticed they updated their site for preorders...

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=115491&cks=PRL

[tictac]

TwinMOS! Curse your nonexistent Canadian suppliers!

:slap: ya canada ... :slap:

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

Got 3modules of those twinmos chips at work and thousands :D of mtec chips... go to test both to see the difference.

[sjohnson]

A little late to this party, but wanted to add another confirm to the TMSP/AA4T/44D/04464 experience.

DFI Infinity NF2, been sitting NIB for a long time so no mods.
6-2-2-2
254@3.3v looping memtest86+ test 5 for nearly 24 hours no errors.

[Rabbi_NZ]

The Stilt,
try Trfc of 15 or looser... my 2x512 VX do great but not at a Trfc below 15.
Trc I can run at 7 with no probs... 2-2-2-10-7-15 works great for me.
maybe that's all your modules need..

[Benny Lodewijk]

got one pair of 512x2 of these Twinmos Speed Premium :D

result

http://www.geocities.com/benny_nejkt/270MHz_2225_mem.txt

[Shroomalistic]

got one pair of 512x2 of these Twinmos Speed Premium :D

result

http://www.geocities.com/benny_nejkt/270MHz_2225_mem.txt
where from, and when did you order?

[Jessfm]

Benny,

ple let us have the codes off the sticker & chips, this will help

[Klisp]

got one pair of 512x2 of these Twinmos Speed Premium :D

result

http://www.geocities.com/benny_nejkt/270MHz_2225_mem.txt
WTG ! :toast: Were did you get them from and what do the ic's read ?
I have 2x512 on order from newegg. They should get here monday/tuesday.

[Reefa_Madness]

Speaking of codes, I've copied from OC Forums some info pulled from Kingston Value Ram. The first set of numbers are off a 512MB stick which was purchased from Fry's and tested on the same P4 rig as the OCZ. Hit the same 255 at 2-2-2-6 with 3.6v and the second set of numbers was from a retail box at CC of 2x256 which I spotted but left at the store because of the high asking price. I was just interested in seeing if there were any locally and what info was on them so I could pass it along. The first KVR stick is pictured at OCF and has the name coding pattern as I've described below. Here is a link to that thread, see post #73 if you are interested in the picture of the KVR. It is not a great picture, but you can see the peculiar layout of the chip's coding.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=3349097#post3349097

The 512 stick:
************************************************** ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo23RD
Sorry, I am bad in taking pics
Kingston B11444.02

D3208DW3T-5U 0449PT01


Copy of my post at OCF (2x256 set):
******************************************

I found a set of 2x256 at a local Circuit City which match the pictures taken by Diablo except for some minor differences. I did not get them, again, because they were priced at $150 after sales tax for 2x256.

Note one item of interest. Usually the Kingston label is across the top and then the numbers below. These chips have the first set of numbers to the right of the Kingston label, so both the name "Kingston" and the first set of numbers are on the top. In many cases, the date is on the second line, and then the chip coding is on the third line. These chips have the coding on the left side of the 2nd row, which is actually across the bottom, then what appears to be the date, plus more coding to the right. All of the second group of numbers are across the bottom row of the chip.

The set I found was coded like this.

First row - label and numbers: KINGSTON 401137.05

then blank space with the circular Winbond "dimples" visible,

followed by the chip code & date: D3208DL5T-5 0416PT01

[Benny Lodewijk]

bought it from local shop in my country (Indonesia). PN Number xxxxxxxxxxxxAA4T :D at chip there is two dimple like BH-5 had, TMD xxxxxxx44D :D

[esdee]

bought it from local shop in my country (Indonesia). PN Number xxxxxxxxxxxxAA4T :D at chip there is two dimple like BH-5 had, TMD xxxxxxx44D :D

are they the speed premiums??
this is INSANE SPEED for 2x512!!! wtg!!!

[Shroomalistic]

well the 512mb speed premium sticks at newegg are sold out again :(

So this next batch are even better odds?

[Jessfm]

Speaking of codes, I've copied from OC Forums some info pulled from Kingston Value Ram. The first set of numbers are off a 512MB stick which was purchased from Fry's and tested on the same P4 rig as the OCZ. Hit the same 255 at 2-2-2-6 with 3.6v and the second set of numbers was from a retail box at CC of 2x256 which I spotted but left at the store because of the high asking price. I was just interested in seeing if there were any locally and what info was on them so I could pass it along. The first KVR stick is pictured at OCF and has the name coding pattern as I've described below. Here is a link to that thread, see post #73 if you are interested in the picture of the KVR. It is not a great picture, but you can see the peculiar layout of the chip's coding.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=3349097#post3349097

The 512 stick:
************************************************** ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo23RD
Sorry, I am bad in taking pics
Kingston B11444.02

D3208DW3T-5U 0449PT01


Copy of my post at OCF (2x256 set):
******************************************

I found a set of 2x256 at a local Circuit City which match the pictures taken by Diablo except for some minor differences. I did not get them, again, because they were priced at $150 after sales tax for 2x256.

Note one item of interest. Usually the Kingston label is across the top and then the numbers below. These chips have the first set of numbers to the right of the Kingston label, so both the name "Kingston" and the first set of numbers are on the top. In many cases, the date is on the second line, and then the chip coding is on the third line. These chips have the coding on the left side of the 2nd row, which is actually across the bottom, then what appears to be the date, plus more coding to the right. All of the second group of numbers are across the bottom row of the chip.

The set I found was coded like this.

First row - label and numbers: KINGSTON 401137.05

then blank space with the circular Winbond "dimples" visible,

followed by the chip code & date: D3208DL5T-5 0416PT01

Thanks for that Info/link

Interestingly my Twinmoss has the same chips as Diablo's
DIABLO's OCZ
http://james.elbbit.com/Fire/upload/userfiles/overclockers/OCForums/Diablo23RD/winbondutt_twinmos_chip_bigl.jpg

Mine twinmoss
http://www.ricco.karoo.net/images/CIMG0153.JPG

Yet I was having trouble going over 210mhz @ 2,2,2,5 .

I wounder if my Booster is actually doing anything - will check later in P4m rig

EDIT*

Thanks for the info benny

[Jessfm]

OK major update time:

Slapped the 2x 256 Twinmos (Mtec) into my Abit IS7-e/3.06 P4m rig in DC ( slot 1 & 3)

Also fitted the DDR booster in slot 2 (tight !! fit !!)

Ill let the picture do the talking...............

http://www.ricco.karoo.net/images/260_3.6v.jpg

This is at 3.6v (as shown by BIOS DDR booster shows 3.3v) , it just keeps going up.
Ill leave it to burn in for a little.

BUT this means that the booster dont work in my Neo2/A64 setup or this memory does not like my Winnie :confused:

[enok]

well after looking at almost every store in Porto i finally found a 2x512 kit of Twinmos that have P/N finishing at AA4T, chips date finish at 4 and chip code at 50D (forgot to look the dimples), pcb looks to be BP tho only single sided (does that influence?)... but they aren't speed premium...
and till now we have only seen good results with the Speed Premium's modules, right?

[//mAr]

Thanks for that Info/link

Interestingly my Twinmoss has the same chips as Diablo's
DIABLO's OCZ
http://james.elbbit.com/Fire/upload/userfiles/overclockers/OCForums/Diablo23RD/winbondutt_twinmos_chip_bigl.jpg
....

ITS MY PIC (c)techpowerup.com
first "release" http://www.i4memory.com/showthread.php?p=1778#post1778 ... don't talk :banana::banana::banana::banana: man.

here are some other pics
http://people.freenet.de/ihrhurensoehne/uttpix/ramchip.JPG
http://people.freenet.de/ihrhurensoehne/uttpix/aufkleber.JPG
thx @ .::$k4T4N::. @hardwareluxx.de

pic1 (http://www.stosstrupp-steiner.net/~Chris/Bild%20009.jpg)
pic2 (http://www.stosstrupp-steiner.net/~Chris/Bild%20010.jpg)
thx @ H!dek! @ hardwareluxx.de

here's a new pic of my winbond utt ;)
http://mar.h0sted.org/mtecforhwluxx.jpg
(c)techpowerup.com

[TEDY]

bought it from local shop in my country (Indonesia). PN Number xxxxxxxxxxxxAA4T :D at chip there is two dimple like BH-5 had, TMD xxxxxxx44D :D
buy me pair please :toast:

your 2*512 was that CPC ON ?

[AMDnewbie]

have a pair of 2x256MB 44D w AA4T....all the looks of the winbond but couldn't test yet...still waiting for my DFI-SLI n can't get hold of a DDR booster ...just hope it could perforam as those listed here..
:toast:

[Jeff]

How come this thread isn't stickied!!! ;)

Looks like I'm going to have to pick up a pair of these since a) they are cheap and b) they look sooo much like the BH-5 of old.

Thanks go to everyone who have posted thier experiences here! :toast:

[Bennah]

Jeff you can give mine a little test when you get them in your hands :D

[Jessfm]

//mAr
well i dont see how im talking :banana::banana::banana::banana: , maybe the thread was at OC was not very clear , re-reading it Diablo has just used the picture as an example. Sorry if its yours. Now edit your post and sort your attitude .......

[Jeff]

Jeff you can give mine a little test when you get them in your hands :D

It's funny... I don't have a single piece of overclocking gear in my collection anymore. :eek: The highest I could test them to is 233MHz FSB on my dual Xeon setup. ;) But I will make sure they are not DOA for you before they are shipped.

[esdee]

and till now we have only seen good results with the Speed Premium's modules, right?



nope ... check my RAM (first posts) it is not speed preimium hella cheap!!
and still UTT

[esdee]

How come this thread isn't stickied!!! ;)

:eek: :eek: :eek: just noticed how many posts-views this thread has!

[abstrakt]

I had my Twinmos CH-5 I recieved up to 235 2-2-2-5-1t at 3.1v prime stable, I can't up my CPU voltage from default which I need to go further so I am stuck :/

[Reefa_Madness]

//mAr
well i dont see how im talking :banana::banana::banana::banana: , maybe the thread was at OC was not very clear , re-reading it Diablo has just used the picture as an example. Sorry if its yours. Now edit your post and sort your attitude .......

I think you are right about Diablo's intentions.

Diablo's wording could have been clearer, but he did post the information from his sticks first, then says that they are like the picture except for the date.

Quote:

"As the pics of the IC is different on the date."

I added the emphasis.

It was just one of those things that happens when English is not your native language.

Added: Didn't take long for the egg to sell out its new stock of TM 512MB sticks. You think there might be some interest in these things? More fresh stock, better chance at Winbond UTT.

[tictac]

buy me pair please :toast:

your 2*512 was that CPC ON ?

My friends doing bulk order in Malaysia

They have 10 pair of
TwinMOS Speed Premium PC3200 2x512mb(1GB Dual Channel kit)

there is still 7 pair left for order

You can check his bulk order here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=116937

Currency Rate:
1 USD = 3.80 RM (Flat Rate)

Good luck

[//mAr]

//mAr
well i dont see how im talking :banana::banana::banana::banana: , maybe the thread was at OC was not very clear , re-reading it Diablo has just used the picture as an example. Sorry if its yours. Now edit your post and sort your attitude .......
ok no problem :)


in future there should be winbond utt on nearly every oem/cheap ram, cauz they have big capacity ...

btw i think ocz is a little bit angry, cauz real overclocker will buy the cheap winbond utt and not the expensive ocz vx :D

[tictac]

It think they dont make value ram sticky here :slap:

Maybe we should bring twinmos representative in this forums :banana:

[esdee]

It think they dont make value ram sticky here :slap:

Maybe we should bring twinmos representative in this forums :banana:

as well as kingston's... i think they will be using those chips in their DIMMs too

nice idea tictac :toast:

btw do me a favour! stop slapping your self ! i wouldn't like the guy that mods my BIOS to have a damaged brain! :D :toast:

[TEDY]

My friends doing bulk order in Malaysia

They have 10 pair of
TwinMOS Speed Premium PC3200 2x512mb(1GB Dual Channel kit)

there is still 7 pair left for order

You can check his bulk order here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=116937

Currency Rate:
1 USD = 3.80 RM (Flat Rate)

Good luck


750RM almost 200$ :(

[tictac]

750RM almost 200$ :(

ya... that doesnt include shipment to your country... :slobber:
better get them in europe :toast:

[TEDY]

friend ordered from newegg.....gambling LOL :D

[Jeff]

Maybe we should bring twinmos representative in this forums :banana:

I really wonder how much speed binning is going on at the other place. So far it seems like everyone who has gotten Twinmos memory with these chips are very happy. And it also seems like NewEgg.com had/has stock that was strickly made with these magical chips. :D

The great thing is the price though. When Outpost.com cleared out thier Kingston BH-5 stock a few months ago and everyone went nuts they charged ~$40 a stick... now these new sticks are... <drumroll>... ~$40 a stick. :D Great deal and worth the "risk" in my book. :up:

[mcnbns]

I've posted a thread at NCIX.com in their Product Requests section. Anyone from Canada who wants a Canadian retailer of TwinMOS Speed Premium should sign up and say "Yes, I want that RAM, too!"

Maybe we can convince them to start selling it. :)

http://www.ncix.com/forums/index.php?mode=showthread&forum=194&threadid=717806&pagenumber=2

[Reefa_Madness]

ok no problem :)


in future there should be winbond utt on nearly every oem/cheap ram, cauz they have big capacity ...

btw i think ocz is a little bit angry, cauz real overclocker will buy the cheap winbond utt and not the expensive ocz vx :D

The thing that makes this ram unique is that even though it will run 260 at 2-2-2-x, it won't do so without high voltage. Without high voltage it is just value-ram grade stuff. This means that the module makers will not be able to use it only in their high-end products because that market is limited. With Winbond having what appears to be a large capacity, or at least in excess of what Infineon is purchasing, and because it is cheap, it will make its way to much of the lower end stuff.

Overclockers everywhere delight in our new found toy. Winbond is still King!

And where are all of the OCZ guys? Probably hiding and ashamed of all of the misinformation that they were forced to put out (such as that these were not Winbond chips - Ok, they are M.tec made from Winbond blanks or that Winbond machines had been lost and no one knew how to make them, etc.). I don't blame those guys, they have jobs and as I've heard them say, non-disclosure agreements that keep them from talking openly about everything. I think it has hurt their image a little bit, though.

[situman]

No I dont think this little incident has hurt their image. Afterall, it is true that its modules that no one else had, until now. And yes they were just doing their job. What really hurt their image is their disapproval of Hipro's maximizer and some shoddy quality PSUs such as their new 600 Powerstream with many DOA's. What keeps them a float is their customer service.

[mcnbns]

There will still be those who are loyal to OCZ and feel guilty about purchasing cheapo RAM with the same performance as OCZ's high-end stuff that. There will be those that feel ashamed to have any "value" component in their high-end gaming box. (It takes away from the "l33tness" factor, you know.) There will be those who think OCZ's product is superior (maybe because they said they speed bin, or maybe because a more expensive product MUST be better).

Nope, this hasn't hurt OCZ at all.

Hail cheap overclocking! :toast:

[trans am]

If it wasn't for OCZ, we wouldn't even be thinking of looking at these chips. I think all the hub bub started when ocz came out with VX. I think we owe them a huge thank you for finding it in the first place.

[Reefa_Madness]

If it wasn't for OCZ, we wouldn't even be thinking of looking at these chips. I think all the hub bub started when ocz came out with VX. I think we owe them a huge thank you for finding it in the first place.


I couldn't agree more with that comment and as proof I offer up a copy of a portion of a post that I made over at OCForums earlier today about 9:30 am East Coast time.

"Even though some people have been miffed with OCZ about not disclosing the chips or about the hipro5 Maximizer...you've got to give them credit for discovering this little "attribute" of cheap Winbond UTT, don't you think?"

The M.tec/Winbond UTT chip would still be looked at by many as insignificant value ram chips without their discovery of its affinity for voltage.

[tictac]

ok plz dont fight here :slap:

Happy hunting :banana:

[trans am]

ok plz dont fight here :slap:

Happy hunting :banana:

nobody's fighting, we are just giving credit where credit is due. :slap:

[Reefa_Madness]

Who is fighting?

I don't think there has been much disagreement, whether it be OCZ or Winbond UTT or anything else discussed.

I apologize if anyone understood anything I've stated to be in that vein, as it was not intended to be the source of an argument.

[tictac]

nobody's fighting, we are just giving credit where credit is due. :slap:

ok sorry misunderstood http://www.solurix.net/lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/sweat.gifhttp://www.solurix.net/lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/sweat.gifhttp://www.solurix.net/lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/sweat.gif

[Bluebeard]

Maybe we should bring twinmos representative in this forums :banana:


they are already here ;)

[tictac]

where? http://www.solurix.net/lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/sweat.gif

Please introduce him/her here http://www.solurix.net/lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/sweat.gif

[esdee]

ok sorry misunderstood http://www.solurix.net/lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/sweat.gifhttp://www.solurix.net/lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/sweat.gifhttp://www.solurix.net/lowyat.net/style_emoticons/default/sweat.gif

tictac how can you not slap yourself ? :D (j/k)

guys i don't think OCZ will have to worry about anything! their chips are to top of the crop while other UTT are avarage!

it's excactly like some handselected 4ns chips some DIMMs used to have back in the BH-5 days!

[esdee]

they are already here ;)

then they should speak !!! come on guys we don't bite! we just burn stuff :p:

[Bluebeard]

So let me introduce myself:

TwinMOS FAE Germany ;)

What you guys want to know?

[esdee]

So let me introduce myself:

TwinMOS FAE Germany ;)

What you guys want to know?

eeeeh can you tell us what week steppings we should look for those chips ?
are there any guaranteed weeks/steppings/serials that have the UTT winbond chips?
are they 90nm process?
are they based on CH or BH


for a start...


thanks!

[Bluebeard]

Winbond UTT can under others like PSC be found on TwinMOS/M.tec - we still use both on M.tec so here i can´t guarantee anything...

All upcoming TwinMOS Speed Premium should have Winbond UTT - we call it CH-5 - former first version of Speed Premium has selectd PSC (review can be found here: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/TwinMOS/SpeedPremium/) and will never run like the Winbond based ones. Check out the "winbond dots" on the chip itself ;)

I will try to find out from which date we switched for WB UTT for the Speed Premium and tell ya asap (next week).

[Shroomalistic]

woohoo, this is awsome. Having offical info is always good. Have an official rep is even better.

Thanks Alonso

[Kamz]

Winbond UTT can under others like PSC be found on
All upcoming TwinMOS Speed Premium should have Winbond UTT - we call it CH-5 -

Hang on a sec, so your saying that you are labeling your winbond UTT as CH5, is that the reason why komplett have now after a long time bought back the CH5 winbond stock, also is this why some earlier members were hitting 250+ at 2,2,2,10 even thou they had CH5, why are you labeling UTT stock as CH5???

Kamz

[esdee]

Winbond UTT can under others like PSC be found on TwinMOS/M.tec - we still use both on M.tec so here i can´t guarantee anything...

All upcoming TwinMOS Speed Premium should have Winbond UTT - we call it CH-5 - former first version of Speed Premium has selectd PSC (review can be found here: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/TwinMOS/SpeedPremium/) and will never run like the Winbond based ones. Check out the "winbond dots" on the chip itself ;)

I will try to find out from which date we switched for WB UTT for the Speed Premium and tell ya asap (next week).


we so thank you!!!

our work on the Twinmos premium here on XS shows that 0446+ week steppings use those chips. And they should have those two 'winbond dots'.

Thanks Alonso :toast:

[Bluebeard]

we are not labeling anything else than TwinMOS and M.tec

we are calling the Winbond UTT internally CH-5 nothing more...

[esdee]

This pic is from the site alonso listed
OOOH i would like to see the look on their face when they read this thread!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22299

:owned:

[Reefa_Madness]

So let me introduce myself:

TwinMOS FAE Germany ;)

What you guys want to know?

Well, since you asked.

I do have a question. Is the fact that the Winbond chips scale well with voltage something that was known industry wide, but OCZ went with it and developed a product or was this news to you guys as well? Did you know before VX's release of the Winbond chips scaling properties?

OK, I have a second. There are guys here and across the web that are reporting great results with TM/M.tec chips that were purchased a couple of years ago. These chips have the physical marks similar to Winbond. Would these be relabeled bh-5/bh-6/ch-5 or are there other chips manufactured that have the same outside appearence as the Winbond? I ask because if the opportunity comes up to buy something with older dates (like on eBay), but with the same physical markings, it would be useful to know the answer to that question.

That is today's allotment of questions.

[tictac]

someone should tell XtremeSystems staff about his existence here
at least give him Tag under his nick name showing he is Twinmos Representative here like others (BigToe,OnePageBook) :)

Anyway welcome to Xtreme Systems :)

[Bluebeard]

we didn´t know in first place - we are not OC hunters like OCZ and generally not deal with higher voltages...

I don´t think that a chip can be identified only by the package. You never know what will be inside if u look only at the chip itself without any additional information. But also here i will try to get more info about...

Of course there can be Winbond ICs under the "old" M.tec modules. For these we used everything cheap as it is our OEM brand.


thx tictac ;) nice place here

BTW: i have been here before starting for TwinMOS - but since July 2003 they got me now ;)

[Kamz]

we are not labeling anything else than TwinMOS and M.tec

we are calling the Winbond UTT internally CH-5 nothing more...

Could some one give me info regarding the following cos i dnt understnad something:

Back in late 2002 i bought 1 gig of twinmoss winbond from komplett, at the time BH5 was not as popular, and many people did not know about them. A week later i boguht some more and got CH5, i rmbr not likning the ch5 cos it wouldnt move above 215 at 3.0v, but for some reaosn the BH5 scaled to 227 in my abit NF7-S. What i find interesting is shortly after winbond stopped producing BH5, people claimed that they had been boguht out, or gone bust, machines and designs templates lost???. So if they stopped producuing BH5, how have komplett now got new stock of CH5 when winbond have stopped trading. Who is producing the new CH5???

I know from a fact that after all the BH5 crazy started hitting the forums, i wanted more but komplett had totally stopped selling winbond twinmoss modules. So where are komplett getting these CH5 from???

**Edit also komplett start selling Ch5, after VX are released and people starting finding out that they contain winbond UTT chips...

[enzoR]

i knew it! CH wafer! :p: :D :toast: :banana: :banana4:

[Reefa_Madness]

Well I just had a friend send me a link to a previously unknown TwinMOS PC3200 that might be worth looking into. It is supposed to be a limited edition. Alonso, what can you tell us about this stock?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6734229028&indexURL=1#ebayphotohosting

[Bluebeard]

are they selling new Twinmos/winbond?

afaik the new winbond utt are built with infineon´s technologie and will not come with the well known winbond logo anymore

but things can change quite fast these days...

BTW: TwinMOS/M.tec with AA4T @ the end of P/N should have Winbond UTT

AA = 0,13um
4 = Winbond

also the TwinMOS Speed Premium which will have better PCB than M.tec with 4 in the code should be the modules to go for ;)

In the techpowerup review we can find the AADT where the D stands for PSC ;)

[Jessfm]

are they selling new Twinmos/winbond?

afaik the new winbond utt are built with infineon´s technologie and will not come with the well known winbond logo anymore

but things can change quite fast these days...

BTW: TwinMOS/M.tec with AA4T @ the end of P/N should have Winbond UTT

AA = 0,13um
4 = Winbond

also the TwinMOS Speed Premium which will have better PCB than M.tec with 4 in the code should be the modules to go for ;)

In the techpowerup review we can find the AADT where the D stands for PSC ;)

Well thats confirmed alot that many have posted in this thread already.

Many thanks ......
:toast:

[enok]

sweet!!! :banana4:

one more question Alonso:

chip's wise we are (imho) almost done: 2 dimples, TMD...50D or 44D, date finishing at 4 from week >46.
now pcb wise is there any diference between, for example, Speed Premium and the usual Dual Channel kits? (considering they have the same chips on them)
are the pcb's the same for every kind of UTT sticks? or should we focus on some particular Twinmos product with some special BP pcb? maybe an particular pcb revision?

tks for ur help! :)

PS: can you PLZ pm me some distributer/dealer from Twinmos at Portugal/Spain? tks :)

[celemine1Gig]

Well I just had a friend send me a link to a previously unknown TwinMOS PC3200 that might be worth looking into. It is supposed to be a limited edition. Alonso, what can you tell us about this stock?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6734229028&indexURL=1#ebayphotohosting

The pic shows PC133 SD-RAM with Micron Chips. Honestly I wouldn't buy from a seller who doesn't really have a clue what he's selling. At least not from one, as dumb as this. :stick: :p:

[trans am]

Welcome to XS Alonso. I have a question too, you may are may not be able to answer...
What is the availablity on these UTT chips? Is this something we need to stock up on like it was with BH5/BH6? Or is Winbond/Infineon Able to crank out as many of these chips as the the market demands?

[Bennah]

I really wonder how much speed binning is going on at the other place. So far it seems like everyone who has gotten Twinmos memory with these chips are very happy. And it also seems like NewEgg.com had/has stock that was strickly made with these magical chips. :D

The great thing is the price though. When Outpost.com cleared out thier Kingston BH-5 stock a few months ago and everyone went nuts they charged ~$40 a stick... now these new sticks are... <drumroll>... ~$40 a stick. :D Great deal and worth the "risk" in my book. :up:

Same as im thinking... cant miss this oportunity like I did with the Oupost.com KHX3200 ;)

[Bluebeard]

@ enok

send a mail to info@twinmos.de and i will forward your question to the right people ;)

the pcb info is also hidden in the code.

for example we takt the code from here again: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/TwinMOS/SpeedPremium/images/Frontbeide_big2.jpg

M2G9J16A0A

the 0 between the last two A stands for B6U808, 6 layer PCB

while the M.tec comes in A8A where the 8 is KO6633, 6 layer PCB



i have no idea about quantities and production of winbond/infini... we are a module house - no chip producer - but it looks like there are a lot ;)

[Reefa_Madness]

I wouldn't buy from a seller who doesn't really have a clue what he's selling. At least not from one, as dumb as this. :stick: :p:

That pic is just my attempt at humor...he lists it as "gently" used Kingston 512MB PC3200, but is selling a TwinMOS stick of PC133 in a KVR box.

Now you know why there is that old saying "Buyer Beware".

I was just trying to lighten up the mood. :)

[situman]

Hmmm i guess my next set of ram will be twinmoss speed premiums from Newegg.

[situman]

Hey Alonso,


Any clue whether the new stock that Newegg is getting will be WInbond UTT chips?

[Bluebeard]

i have no idea - send them a mail asking for the product code
but i believe they will be utt cause earlier Speed Premium with PSC were limited

i am not sure if Speed Premium with UTT have BP PCB - afaik tictac´s are not BP, right? the ones tested on techpowerup have BP PCB. Have to doublecheck new shipments next week...

But UTT and BP on Speed Premium would be nice i guess ;)

[Eljefe62]

I have 2x512 sticks of Speed Premium on order, along with my Athlon64 upgrade...
I will do some testing on my (hopefully back from RMA) NFII LPB, Shuttle AN35NU, and the new Neo2 Plat...
I will also take some good pics of the memory and place em up for exam...

[TEDY]

Alonso : you're from DE ? Me from Slovenija....so almost neighbours...which town are you from ? I might come to you and steal all production of UTT :D

[Skip]

what gets me is that ocz speedbins the ram to 240 2-2-2. i think they should go to 250 or 260 at those same timings, most everybody in this thread with confirmed winbond UTT has been getting over 240 2-2-2 at anywhere from 3.2 to 3.4 volts. so if they want to charge that much extra for their speedbinning i say maybe they should guarantee 250 or 260, probably 250 2-2-2 3.4V.

[Vassili]

This is maybe confusing, but I thought it might be useful,

About 1,5 years ago a bought a 40 GB Maxtor IDE with 2 MB cache, on the pcb of de harddrive there's a Winbond BH-6 chip (cache I think).
Now just a couple of day's ago a friend of mine bought a new Maxtor harddrive, I believe it was a 160 GB s-ata with 8 MB cache, on the pcb of the new harddrive was also a Winbond chip, DH-6.

Should this new Winbond chip been called DH-(4,4)/5/6?

Or am I now just talking stupid?

[enzoR]

no winbond isnt allowed to put its name on these chips. thats probably some SDRAM or so?

[Bluebeard]

Alonso : you're from DE ? I might come to you and steal all production of UTT :D

why steal? the TwinMOS/M.tec is really cheap ;)

[Reefa_Madness]

i have no idea - send them a mail asking for the product code
but i believe they will be utt cause earlier Speed Premium with PSC were limited

i am not sure if Speed Premium with UTT have BP PCB - afaik tictac´s are not BP, right? the ones tested on techpowerup have BP PCB. Have to doublecheck new shipments next week...

But UTT and BP on Speed Premium would be nice i guess ;)

I called newegg last Thursday (01-06-05), right after the new stock was released and asked if that info could be emailed to me and was told that they have 7 distribution centers and have no way of knowing which one has what. I tried explaining that they had sold everything out and this was new inventory at all W/H but it was still a no go. I can't hurt for some one else to try, though.

Did tictac order Speed Premiums or the regular 512 sticks? I do seem to recall that he got the AADT parts # and not the AA4T.

[enzoR]

no its not. if your finding "golden sticks" it could get really expensive!
plus you could sell the bad stolen ones and make money :p:

[X-GeN]

This is maybe confusing, but I thought it might be useful,

About 1,5 years ago a bought a 40 GB Maxtor IDE with 2 MB cache, on the pcb of de harddrive there's a Winbond BH-6 chip (cache I think).
Now just a couple of day's ago a friend of mine bought a new Maxtor harddrive, I believe it was a 160 GB s-ata with 8 MB cache, on the pcb of the new harddrive was also a Winbond chip, DH-6.

Should this new Winbond chip been called DH-(4,4)/5/6?

Or am I now just talking stupid?

I also saw a 40gb Maxtor 2mb cache Ide harddisk which had Winbond bh-5

[Reefa_Madness]

This pic is from the site alonso listed
OOOH i would like to see the look on their face when they read this thread!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22299

:owned:


They should know already as the author of the article, //mAr, has posted in this very thread.

[enzoR]

the one he reviewed was AADT which is clearly shown in the picture so why should he lie that it overclocked like crap cuz it really did.

[Reefa_Madness]

the one he reviewed was AADT which is clearly shown in the picture so why should he lie that it overclocked like crap cuz it really did.


?????????

[enzoR]

the sticks he reviewed use PCS dies which overclock like crap unlike these new ones which have UTT....

[Jessfm]

enzor are you going off an a tangent ?
Even I am confused by your statement.

[Reefa_Madness]

esdee commented that the reviewer claimed they did not overclock very well and wouldn't he be surprised to find out just how well they do (with the UTT chips, of course). I was just stating that he should already know, because he has posted in this thread.

Were you simply stating that since //mAr's sticks were not the UTT, his conclusions were correct with respect to the sticks he reviewed and the results that the UTT chips have been getting here and elsewhere are not relevant to his review of the AADT version?

I would agree with that, if that was your point.

[Skip]

i'm pretty sure that is what he said/meant.

[hipro5]

So let me introduce myself:

TwinMOS FAE Germany ;)

What you guys want to know?

Welcome aboard........ :D :toast:

[X-GeN]

So let me introduce myself:

TwinMOS FAE Germany ;)

What you guys want to know?

:wave: :rocker:

I would like to learn why can't we see much varity of twinmos in Turkey?

Ther is only standart Twinmos and Twister 433-466-533 models. :rolleyes:
I would like to see speedpremium and if I'm not wrong there was a twisterpro series too.

[Bluebeard]

well... i have almost no power in sales so i can´t answer you that question... normally it´s all a question of demand

officially the 433/466/500 which were wlcsp are end of life - replaced by TwiSTER DDR533 and new DDR400 TwiSTER pro with TCCD

TwinMOS Speed Premium and TwiSTER pro are very new products on the market and i believe it just will take some time...

[Grey Fox]

I have a simple question. Im new to xtremely ocing ram i was wondering if u guys use extreme methods of cooling or just have a properly air cooled case. So say if i put 3.2-3.4 volts vidimm with good air cooling will it damage these ch-5 twinmos premium.

Thanks Grey Fox

[situman]

I heard it runs relatively cool.

[situman]

Besides u can always slap on the super talent memory cooler. Works pretty well and quiet too.

[Grey Fox]

Thanks situman

[Shroomalistic]

suspence is killing me, any word on the latest 512 speed premium at newegg. I ordered from the last batch before they sold out again. Did anyone overight these things?

[Klisp]

suspence is killing me, any word on the latest 512 speed premium at newegg. I ordered from the last batch before they sold out again. Did anyone overight these things?
I order my set on wednesday so I should get mine on monday because one of Neweggs main distribution centers is only 45 mintues from my house.

[Benny Lodewijk]

update my twinmos UTT :D

http://www.geocities.com/benny_nejkt/277MHz_2225_cpuz2.txt

pass OCZ VX i think :D :D

[goreblast]

Anyone know if there is a UK online retailer stocking these - i have looked but cant find any .... yet

[X-GeN]

update my twinmos UTT :D

http://www.geocities.com/benny_nejkt/277MHz_2225_cpuz2.txt

pass OCZ VX i think :D :D

How much juice did you give ? :slobber:

:toast:

[TEDY]

why steal? the TwinMOS/M.tec is really cheap ;)

Was just joking :stick:

[enzoR]

I have a simple question. Im new to xtremely ocing ram i was wondering if u guys use extreme methods of cooling or just have a properly air cooled case. So say if i put 3.2-3.4 volts vidimm with good air cooling will it damage these ch-5 twinmos premium.

Thanks Grey Fox

ive put 4.2volts to my CH-5 (higher than 3.85 didnt help)
i only had a small fan from the stock intel heatsink resting above my modules. ;)

Benny, :slobber:
how much volts?

[esdee]

update my twinmos UTT :D

http://www.geocities.com/benny_nejkt/277MHz_2225_cpuz2.txt

pass OCZ VX i think :D :D

:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

[Jack]

update my twinmos UTT :D

http://www.geocities.com/benny_nejkt/277MHz_2225_cpuz2.txt

pass OCZ VX i think :D :D

give us more info :D
can you post a picture of the mem? or post the codes on the mem?

how many volts are you giving the mem at 277MHz?

nice clocks :toast:

i already found this:
TMD7608F8E44D.
Hit FSB 270 MHz timing 2-2-2-5 1T with 3.5volt Vdimm

[Jessfm]

Anyone know if there is a UK online retailer stocking these - i have looked but cant find any .... yet

If you look back through posts, I listed Tekheads stock that I had in my hands as I had a chance to look through all the twinmoss & Adata they had. But they were out of 256 3200 sticks, so they might get the right ones in the next stock.

They did have some 512 sticks, give them a call.

www.tekheads.co.uk

[DaGoof]

Christ that's nice, cant wait for mine to come from newegg on the 12th

[chikitano]

Hello

changing my old kingston value i saw two holes in the chips (http://img29.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img29&image=dscf00133gi.jpg) :banana: this means that they take to Chips winbond, but my question is, is utt or can be bh/ch since these memories are old already... the problem is that single I modulate has them :confused:

Salu2

Edit: forgot to me, these have been working to cas3, that is not very normal? :confused: it can be because the other dimm was not equal?

[situman]

I called newegg last Thursday (01-06-05), right after the new stock was released and asked if that info could be emailed to me and was told that they have 7 distribution centers and have no way of knowing which one has what. I tried explaining that they had sold everything out and this was new inventory at all W/H but it was still a no go. I can't hurt for some one else to try, though.

Did tictac order Speed Premiums or the regular 512 sticks? I do seem to recall that he got the AADT parts # and not the AA4T.

Newegg is very lazy when it comes to finding out product info.

[tictac]

ive put 4.2volts to my CH-5 (higher than 3.85 didnt help)
i only had a small fan from the stock intel heatsink resting above my modules. ;)

Benny, :slobber:
how much volts?

Just 3,7V Vdimm :toast: :toast:

Should go higher with more vdimm later :banana: :banana: :banana:

Congrats Benny :toast:

[X-GeN]

Just 3,7V Vdimm :toast: :toast:

Should go higher with more vdimm later :banana: :banana: :banana:

Congrats Benny :toast:

:stick:

I have a twinmos ddr333 memory. Which has Mtec 60B chips. And looks as the same as the one in the pic. The w