View Full Version : OCZ VX, Best Memory made since BH5!!
conrad.maranan
02-15-2005, 08:04 PM
You've got PM.
LikwidKool
02-18-2005, 09:10 AM
hey's guy's I just tried out the 2/09 bios on the DFI NF4, and noticed at 265 my VX was giving off a ton of errors which it didn't with the 2/25. Basically I noticed that after the Level4 option in the bios, some of the settings were changed from auto in the 2/25 to different values. Now being the idiot I didn't try changing one at a time to isolate what setting it was, but by changing all to auto and the second to last to 07x I was able to run 265 again with no errors.
2-2-8-2-7-16-2-2-2-2-auto-auto-enabled-auto-0-auto-level4-auto-auto-auto-auto-auto-07x-auto
Now I am sure these are not very great optimised settings as I only get 3.8K unbuff at 265 but it does atleast let me get an OC and able to tweak a bit. Just thought you all might want to try it out.
OPPAINTER
02-18-2005, 09:25 AM
hey's guy's I just tried out the 2/09 bios on the DFI NF4, and noticed at 265 my VX was giving off a ton of errors which it didn't with the 2/25. Basically I noticed that after the Level4 option in the bios, some of the settings were changed from auto in the 2/25 to different values. Now being the idiot I didn't try changing one at a time to isolate what setting it was, but by changing all to auto and the second to last to 07x I was able to run 265 again with no errors.
2-2-8-2-7-16-2-2-2-2-auto-auto-enabled-auto-0-auto-level4-auto-auto-auto-auto-auto-07x-auto
Now I am sure these are not very great optimised settings as I only get 3.8K unbuff at 265 but it does atleast let me get an OC and able to tweak a bit. Just thought you all might want to try it out.
Have you tryed changeing the 16 to a 17 and see if it helps get you higher clocks?
OPP
LikwidKool
02-18-2005, 09:41 AM
Actually I really haven't tried changing much. I just really got this board set up a day or so ago. Half of those settings I got off of a post by Radelon. Now on my K8N Neo2, 261 was tops. So in all I am getting a little higher clock off the bat.
I am running to work right now though, but I will try tonight to see what happens. I am also going to try and isolate what settings were giving the errors.
AMDfan
02-18-2005, 07:55 PM
sure i'd believe you. my 3200plat rev2 did 285 2.5-3-36 @ 2.85v. it's not a stretch of the imagination that another person could do it at 2.7. that is of course assuming your psu rails are all at stock.
Thanks alot for believed me for that, but the problem is, I don't believed it myself :( , like you said you did 285mhz at 2.5-3-3-6 with 2.85v that's cool, I can swallow it, but, 285 2.5-3-3-6 with only 2.7v :shakes: I understanded that TCCD chips don't need much voltage , but still hard to believed :exclamati
pumbertot
02-22-2005, 10:41 AM
this is a n00b question i suppose but when you guys say to run at test 5 on memtest why is this?isnt test 8 more intensive on the mem?
Boogotop
02-22-2005, 10:46 AM
Thanks alot for believed me for that, but the problem is, I don't believed it myself :( , like you said you did 285mhz at 2.5-3-3-6 with 2.85v that's cool, I can swallow it, but, 285 2.5-3-3-6 with only 2.7v :shakes: I understanded that TCCD chips don't need much voltage , but still hard to believed :exclamati
tu me croit pas encore!!!! :rolleyes: :p:
STEvil
02-22-2005, 08:39 PM
this is a n00b question i suppose but when you guys say to run at test 5 on memtest why is this?isnt test 8 more intensive on the mem?
5 uses less ram so the ram that is being utilized will heat up more than using test 8, possibly. But test 8 runs longer (but through more ram, so..).
Nobody has looked into which is better really.. :D
EclectiK
03-01-2005, 10:49 AM
I've just get my OCZ VX today
2x512
I let you know the result when I get my DFI.
http://verybadman.free.fr/overclocking/Sta61334.jpg
Damn they are beautiful
I think I'll set an new avatar.
ECK :slobber:
pumbertot
03-01-2005, 01:48 PM
damn f***! one of my VXs has died. can one of you OCZ dudes sort me out with the UK return address please. please dont tell me I have to return to the retailer in the U.S. :(
so sad, they were running nice at 254MHz 3.4V. :(
my 3200 winnie sat nice at 2.54GHz 1.475V :(
yes im very sad today :(
running with one precious VX. :(
EclectiK
03-01-2005, 04:22 PM
damn f***! one of my VXs has died. can one of you OCZ dudes sort me out with the UK return address please. please dont tell me I have to return to the retailer in the U.S. :(
so sad, they were running nice at 254MHz 3.4V. :(
my 3200 winnie sat nice at 2.54GHz 1.475V :(
yes im very sad today :(
running with one precious VX. :(
Damn, sorry for you man, I just got mine today when one of yours died.
Hope there will have no problem for you to get one new.
ECK
nebuchanezzar
03-01-2005, 04:28 PM
this is a n00b question i suppose but when you guys say to run at test 5 on memtest why is this?isnt test 8 more intensive on the mem?
I've heard to run test 5 looping first for your burn in. Then find your max where it doesn't show any errors and then run that same FSB with test 8. Usually it will show some errors until your FSB comes down but not much maybe 1 to 3 FSB. Just my 2 cents
DildePer
03-03-2005, 08:33 AM
If you are running, say - 3,3V. Wouldn't you need some cooling besides the OCZ heatspreaders?
pumbertot
03-03-2005, 09:21 AM
If you are running, say - 3,3V. Wouldn't you need some cooling besides the OCZ heatspreaders?
vx dont really get warm btu I always had a silenx 80mm over them via a zalman bracket, more to keep the booster cool than anything.
Tony from OCZ (thanks to Ryanpgroovy) has kindly offered for me to send the dead VX to him and he will have immediate replacement shipped from US.
Lucky for me he is due to meet his US counterparts or I would have had to mail them to US.
cheers OCZ guys. :toast:
DildePer
03-03-2005, 10:31 AM
Cheers, and thanks for bringing me the good news :D
Gauss
03-03-2005, 10:32 AM
Well, not all is pink color.
I tried a kit of 1 GB (OCZ PC3200 VX) and was something disappointed. They were unstable at 3.1v 200 MHz 2-2-2-8, but at 3.2v they were stable up to 240 MHz wirh 2-2-2-5 and without preburning.
Now my problem, I don't know why but my OCZ Booster was unstable with these memories, even if I tried 3.4v the voltage sometimes fell to 3.0v causing in that moment my Windows to crash and to restart, with a pair of BH-5 my Booster was completely stable and never had a problem, geez.
So I had a chance to sell both, my VX and my Booster to different people, phew, now I'm waiting for my GSkill LA, let's hope I'd be happy. :)
pumbertot
03-03-2005, 01:40 PM
Well, not all is pink color.
I tried a kit of 1 GB (OCZ PC3200 VX) and was something disappointed. They were unstable at 3.1v 200 MHz 2-2-2-8, but at 3.2v they were stable up to 240 MHz wirh 2-2-2-5 and without preburning.
Now my problem, I don't know why but my OCZ Booster was unstable with these memories, even if I tried 3.4v the voltage sometimes fell to 3.0v causing in that moment my Windows to crash and to restart, with a pair of BH-5 my Booster was completely stable and never had a problem, geez.
So I had a chance to sell both, my VX and my Booster to different people, phew, now I'm waiting for my GSkill LA, let's hope I'd be happy. :)
sounds strange though hasnt there been this issue raised b4 with some enermax psus and boosters?
Gauss
03-03-2005, 04:43 PM
I wish I could know. I'm using a PC Power & Cooling Turbo-cool 510 Deluxe and the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. The Booster was fine with BH-5, but with the VX no luck.
DBZ_GOD
03-06-2005, 09:48 PM
Hey, i am just wondering if people could help me out with my OCZ Gold VX timmings. i got the following hardware:
DFI NF4 Ultra-D motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket 939 with XP-120 and fastest Panaflo
OCZ powerstream 520watt psu
OCZ 2x512MB PC3200 Gold VX
ATi X850XT-PE PCI-Express
Raptor HD 74GB
The best Stable overclock i have gotton is 260x10 at 1.6vcore 3.5vDimm at 2-2-2-8 timmings but i know that the Gold VX can do better, any suggestions or exact settings to use on my Gold VX with the DFI NF4 motherboard?, Thank you.
Edit: I am using the stock BIOS 1/25, out of the beta ones is their a really good one to use?
Revv23
03-06-2005, 09:53 PM
Burn in may be your best bet, 260 isnt that bad, just lower then average.
DBZ_GOD
03-06-2005, 10:01 PM
whats the best way to burn in ram?
andyOCZ
03-06-2005, 10:15 PM
whats the best way to burn in ram?
Hi, you can run at 200mhz, aith 2-2-2 timings using 3.2v for about 48 hours. 24 hours minimum. Run memtest and loop test 5. Memtest can be turned on in your BIOS.
This procedure seems too help when you crank up the volts and speeds later.
I will be starting a thread tomorrow with some suggested VX timings here on XS. Check it out then.
DBZ_GOD
03-06-2005, 11:01 PM
okay, but as for the memtest, i looked all over in my BIOS and found nothing related to turning on memtest or memtest itself at all!?, my guess it is under some other name in the BIOS other then memtest but i dunno what its then called.
LikwidKool
03-07-2005, 08:35 AM
it is in the bios genie section. Just keep scrolling down under the voltage options and you will see it.
As far as your previos post, 260 is pretty good. Mine do 265 but only after burn in. I have a post around here somewhere with some timings to use, but I haven't investigated every option in the dfi bios. I have my pc3700 gold rev 3's in right now so I can't even check a64 tweaker.
**EDIT** Here's the link to my post. Just something to try.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=718964#post718964
DBZ_GOD
03-07-2005, 09:36 PM
I looked below the voltages, and all thats there is the 2 lan cards, SATA ports and firewire options no memtest at all, i am on the stock 1/25 BIOS so i guess i gotta flash to 1 of the betas to get memtest built into the BIOS?
See below.....
Double post .
I looked below the voltages, and all thats there is the 2 lan cards, SATA ports and firewire options no memtest at all, i am on the stock 1/25 BIOS so i guess i gotta flash to 1 of the betas to get memtest built into the BIOS?
The latest memtest version is included in the latest beta 0218 bios for the DFI LP NF4's.
pumbertot
03-11-2005, 06:22 AM
Hi, you can run at 200mhz, aith 2-2-2 timings using 3.2v for about 48 hours. 24 hours minimum. Run memtest and loop test 5. Memtest can be turned on in your BIOS.
This procedure seems too help when you crank up the volts and speeds later.
I will be starting a thread tomorrow with some suggested VX timings here on XS. Check it out then.
Just got my RMA replacement for the VX and im a little disappointed to say the least. the pair RMAed did 250 2-2-2 at 3.5V no sweat.
put these new ones in and was disappointed that they wouldnt do a single loop of test 5 at 3.2V 2-2-2. in fact had to up all the way to 3.5V to get it to pass at 200MHz. :(
tried at 240 3.5V-3.7V and errors at first loop. so ive dropped back to 230MHz 3.5V and they passed. Im hoping if I leave them for 48 hours looping then they will improve but I dont think they will really get that much beter or am I wrong?anyone get a great increase after burning in?
btw im on a neo2 s939 with 1.36b BIOS. the most annoying thing is my CPU will do 2.7GHz but since the dividers dont run on this mobo with VX I could be stuck at say 2.35-2.4GHz. :(
arent these tested to at least 240 2-2-2?
Chr0n1c
03-11-2005, 07:05 AM
wow and ppl said I was picky about mine maxing out @ 238Mhz, you RMA'd a set that did 250?
They are rated @ 240 2228 but not test iirc.
pumbertot
03-11-2005, 09:49 AM
wow and ppl said I was picky about mine maxing out @ 238Mhz, you RMA'd a set that did 250?
They are rated @ 240 2228 but not test iirc.
lol dont be silly i never RMAed cos they werent fast enough. one of them died and I RMAed both as a set. :p:
Razor_cut
03-11-2005, 10:47 AM
hey's guy's I just tried out the 2/09 bios on the DFI NF4, and noticed at 265 my VX was giving off a ton of errors which it didn't with the 2/25. Basically I noticed that after the Level4 option in the bios, some of the settings were changed from auto in the 2/25 to different values. Now being the idiot I didn't try changing one at a time to isolate what setting it was, but by changing all to auto and the second to last to 07x I was able to run 265 again with no errors.
2-2-8-2-7-16-2-2-2-2-auto-auto-enabled-auto-0-auto-level4-auto-auto-auto-auto-auto-07x-auto
Now I am sure these are not very great optimised settings as I only get 3.8K unbuff at 265 but it does atleast let me get an OC and able to tweak a bit. Just thought you all might want to try it out.
I tryed to find a optimal timing for the DFi nF4 and VX mems, is this quit hardcore?
Or what do you have benching/ 24/7 use?
chers
LikwidKool
03-11-2005, 11:48 AM
I was using that for 24/7 use. I haven't gotten really tweaked benching timings yet, cause I was spending so much time on my SLI setup. Come to find out one card was borked.
Basically all the non auto setting are pretty good. The 2/25 bios also sets some really good timings, and is pretty fast but still alowing max OC.
andyOCZ
03-11-2005, 12:24 PM
Just got my RMA replacement for the VX and im a little disappointed to say the least. the pair RMAed did 250 2-2-2 at 3.5V no sweat.
put these new ones in and was disappointed that they wouldnt do a single loop of test 5 at 3.2V 2-2-2. in fact had to up all the way to 3.5V to get it to pass at 200MHz. :(
tried at 240 3.5V-3.7V and errors at first loop. so ive dropped back to 230MHz 3.5V and they passed. Im hoping if I leave them for 48 hours looping then they will improve but I dont think they will really get that much beter or am I wrong?anyone get a great increase after burning in?
btw im on a neo2 s939 with 1.36b BIOS. the most annoying thing is my CPU will do 2.7GHz but since the dividers dont run on this mobo with VX I could be stuck at say 2.35-2.4GHz. :(
arent these tested to at least 240 2-2-2?
Please burn the VX in and see what you get. We are testing no different than we have all along.
Are you cooling the modules with a fan? If your last set died it was probably due to heat. Heat will also cause errors.
pumbertot
03-11-2005, 01:05 PM
Please burn the VX in and see what you get. We are testing no different than we have all along.
Are you cooling the modules with a fan? If your last set died it was probably due to heat. Heat will also cause errors.
do you think i should run them at say 230MHz 2-2-2 at 3.5V for 48 hours to burn them in, as they wont run at 200 and 3.2V, needing 3.5V to be stable at even low frequencies.
btw I do wish to point out that OCZ RMA process is second to none and I have nothing but the utmost praise for the customer care you guys provide. Big thumbs up! :toast:
edit:ive always had an 80mm silenx blowing on these via a zalman bracket and they are barely warm to touch.
DBZ_GOD
03-11-2005, 01:47 PM
Hey guys, when burning in the ram does i half to have them doing a test loop of #5 for 24hours stright or do i gotta do like little increments like, looping for 6 hours when at work, and looping for 10 hours when sleeping etc etc?, cuz i use my computer everyday so i can't really just let it sit for 24 to 48 hours stright letting the ram burn in.
andyOCZ
03-11-2005, 02:09 PM
The main issue is not slamming it with 3.5v right off the bat. You can certainly run at lower volts and memtest when you are not using it. No problem there.
DBZ_GOD
03-12-2005, 04:23 AM
Okay good thats a relief cuz i just don't got the time to do 24 to 48 stright, so thats good, but too bad i didn't know that before, cuz i slammed mine with 3.5v right off the bat, and well there dead lol :lol: so there gonna be RMA'd , but my next pair i will do the memtest looping of 3.2v for 48 hours totaly then go for the overclocks and not hammer it with 3.5v right off the bat.
sinsinking
03-12-2005, 04:27 AM
oops..
wait for ur result lol
Th3__W00T_GuY__
03-14-2005, 06:32 AM
damn :(
got 2x512 OCZ PC4000 VX
i did burn-in them for ~20H at 200 2-2-2-5 at 3.2V
but they only get stable@250 on 3.5(!!!) V :(
what could i try? which bios works best 4 vx px4000?
1337mr.hanky
03-14-2005, 08:23 AM
this is a very handy forum, at least some people who know something about hardware
anyways, im planning on buying ocz vx as well (pc3200)
in combination with dfi nf4 sli-dr 3500+winny and xfx 6800gt
should give me a pretty fast pc
i will build a waterchiller somewhere in the summer break to make it fly, will have more time and money then
hope the memory will do good, but i'm pretty sure cause of all the good feedbacks on the memory "best memory made since bh-5"
dimasdw
03-14-2005, 09:00 AM
damn :(
got 2x512 OCZ PC4000 VX
i did burn-in them for ~20H at 200 2-2-2-5 at 3.2V
but they only get stable@250 on 3.5(!!!) V :(
what could i try? which bios works best 4 vx px4000?
not try 3.5 V over ?
it is OCZ PC 4000 VX better than BH-5 ?
Th3__W00T_GuY__
03-14-2005, 09:32 AM
damnit my pc4000vx suck!!! :(:( :( :( :( :(
Torin
03-14-2005, 10:03 AM
damnit my pc4000vx suck!!! :(:( :( :( :( :(
Keep burning them in.... I doubt you've maxed them out yet... if they still don't do 250 @ 3.3V after a week or so of burning in, make a post in the OCZ forum about it and the OCZ reps will help you out.
Th3__W00T_GuY__
03-14-2005, 10:16 AM
but shipping in the us is VERY expensive from europe (austria..) :(:(
how should i burn them in?
2-2-2-10-1T@200@3.3V OR 2-2-2-10-2T@250@3.5 OR another possibility?
i should burn them in >80h ????
Torin
03-14-2005, 10:36 AM
OCZ recommends 2-2-2 @ 3.2V for 48 hours, then just keep pushing it up until you start getting errors, then let it run test #5 until the errors are gone. Eventually when you hit 3.5-3.6V and are still getting the same amount of errors after hours of test #5, you can assume you've hit your limit... then back it down until you get no more errors and that should be your max.
Th3__W00T_GuY__
03-15-2005, 12:27 PM
so, i did memtest 24h now, but i will let run memtest86+ 1.51 for another 24 or even more h!!! but my bosster is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up i guess.... suddenly it showed 3.0Vdimm! and then i got 450000 errors... so i had to adjust it to 3.2V again... should i continu with this errors?? (they did just appear once!)
pumbertot
03-19-2005, 02:19 PM
yeah but how do i burn mine in as they wont do 200MHz at 2-2-2 3.2V. anything under 3.5V gives errors.bah!
DeMagH
03-19-2005, 10:39 PM
ops .. wrong post
Terry
03-21-2005, 03:56 AM
i didnt exactly read every post of this thread but has anyone ran them through 50+ passes of memtest @ [Edit: whoops.... 260-270mhz] 2-2-2 and not got any errors?
by the way it would be nice if they werent twice the price in the uk as they are in the US... dam the uk's taxes!!
bradmax57
03-22-2005, 02:20 AM
I just started playing with my new OCZ VX memory, looks great so far.
This stuff is the memory to replace BH-5,, finnally:D
Made for Overclockers by Overclockers!!
Great job OCZ!! :toast:
OPP
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20964&stc=1
I can only dream mine seems to top out at 250 :( did have some twinmos speed premium that did 258 before this vx but thats now gone gutted!
pumbertot
03-22-2005, 02:25 AM
yeah well brad yours is a dream compared to my nightmare. even after 48 hours of burn-in I get errors in test 5 at a measley 230MHz at 3.5V. *$%*&£&!!!!!!!!!!!
bradmax57
03-22-2005, 02:36 AM
yeah well brad yours is a dream compared to my nightmare. even after 48 hours of burn-in I get errors in test 5 at a measley 230MHz at 3.5V. *$%*&£&!!!!!!!!!!!
mmm i get a few errors in test 5 at 255 using no more than 3.4v, ocz guys over at bleeding edge have tried recommending a few tweaks yet hasnt really improved anything for me, the tref made the biggest difference. I think I might try looping test 5 at 250 and see if that makes any diff
pumbertot
03-22-2005, 02:39 AM
mmm i get a few errors in test 5 at 255 using no more than 3.4v, ocz guys over at bleeding edge have tried recommending a few tweaks yet hasnt really improved anything for me, the tref made the biggest difference. I think I might try looping test 5 at 250 and see if that makes any diff
tref???can you link me to the thread with tweak hints please mate?
got to try something im not too happy.
STEvil
03-22-2005, 02:56 AM
try TRC @ 13 and TRFC @ 15.
CH liked those two a bit looser, BH can tighten them down more..
bradmax57
03-22-2005, 03:57 AM
tref???can you link me to the thread with tweak hints please mate?
got to try something im not too happy.
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8093
three different settings, wether you have a newcastle, winchester or clawhammer
cpulloverclock
03-22-2005, 09:13 AM
comparison with my BH :)
my suicidal screenie with 2 BH
not bad but 285-290 like my 9nda3+ in benchmarks....
my SS is missed with clockgen :p:
too fast...
http://cpull.free.fr/Overclocking/Ram%20frequency%20cpulloverclock.gif
cpulloverclock
03-22-2005, 12:32 PM
296 max is the best, same timings with my 9nda3+
I'll try with the 9NPA+
ive ran 255 2-2-2-5 for 8 hours, no memtest errors, 3.6V.
Tryed 260 same settings, and i got 1 error in a 3 hour test of memtest.
All other ram settings at stock, what do you guys reccommend? 3.7volts? Got dual 80mm fans over em.
redgoo
03-23-2005, 11:59 PM
Just got my VX 4000. They'll run at 254 with no errors in memtest. Hopefully they will hit 260 after burn-in.
I haven't been able to test mine yet, but I'll post my results when I get around to it...
BTW, I think I saw my stickers on there said 2-3-3-8...does anyone elses say that? I assume that's the rated speed for defaults, and the volts need to be applied before 2-2-2 is obtainable.
sauria
03-25-2005, 11:15 AM
I haven't been able to test mine yet, but I'll post my results when I get around to it...
BTW, I think I saw my stickers on there said 2-3-3-8...does anyone elses say that? I assume that's the rated speed for defaults, and the volts need to be applied before 2-2-2 is obtainable.
The stickers on the new kit that I received today say 2-3-3-8 PC 3200 Gold Edition VX
I guess that is for 2.6 VDIMM?
derubermensch1
03-29-2005, 01:52 PM
From reading over at BE they say the sticker represents the SPD to ensure that they boot safely. Can't remember the actualy post about that tho but it was confirmed by the OCZ reps and they assured everyone they're still rated at 2-2-2-8
El Snorro
03-29-2005, 11:08 PM
http://img231.exs.cx/img231/9477/vx21oa.jpg
SS with my Vx Dc :)
maybe I can do 280 with the 1.36mod bios.
Gonna try tonight.
Edit:
Could pifast @273. 3,7volt i believe.
http://img220.exs.cx/img220/8498/273pifast1ia.jpg :toast:
SLaY3r07
03-30-2005, 02:23 PM
Anandtech revisits OCZ VX (http://anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2386&p=1)
Anandtech revisits OCZ VX (http://anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2386&p=1)Just checked it out. Looks pretty much the same.
Nice to see some comparison between OCZ TCCD at DDR636 2,5-4-3-7 and the VX at 10x267.
graham_h
04-08-2005, 02:45 AM
you all seen this ?
PC5000 Platinum (http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2005/132)
anyone got any ?
xgman
04-14-2005, 06:06 AM
you all seen this ?
PC5000 Platinum (http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2005/132)
anyone got any ?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59086
Magnj
04-14-2005, 08:11 AM
Ok so I'm at 248MHZ on my pc3200 VX. I tried at 3.2V, no go. 3.5V no go, 3.4V no go. And just for the hell of it i try 3.3 and no errors? IS that normal? IS there some kind of frequency to voltage ratio anyone is aware of?
xgman
04-14-2005, 08:24 AM
It's just like that sometimes.
LenniZ
04-15-2005, 01:49 PM
I'm thinking of buying the Value VX for my p4 2.8c 478 p4c800-e system, does it perform any good on p4 ?
The Mofo
04-15-2005, 10:12 PM
http://www.venomousmofo.com/mofo04/260vx.jpg
http://www.venomousmofo.com/mofo04/260vx3.jpg
Theres an example of what my Value VX does.. $150 well spent. 3.5V and i really havent even tweaked it. Wish i had a 10X multi on this crappy CBBID. It runs D20L stable now for 4 days straight.
Ok so I'm at 248MHZ on my pc3200 VX. I tried at 3.2V, no go. 3.5V no go, 3.4V no go. And just for the hell of it i try 3.3 and no errors? IS that normal? IS there some kind of frequency to voltage ratio anyone is aware of?
heh, I'm kind of having some funky results with that too. "Less is more" :lol:
I burned mine in at 3.2v (2-2-2) for about 24 hours, and then I slowly worked my way up to 250 at 3.4v. Any voltage over about 3.55 I get a ton of errors in memtest (no matter what speed). I guess I'm not cooling them enough for that high of volts...
I'll play with it some more later to try and get it stable at high v, but for now they're looping memtest at 255 (3.4v).
I'm a bit carefull before buying these modules
2*256Mb pc4000 OCZ VX ...
After reading this thread, I dont realy know what to do ?
Everybody advices to run these modules at an DFI board but I'm using the MSI Neo2 Platinum...
Any info ?
jz got my booster, my corsair pc3500 bh5 manage to run 252 @ 2-2-2-11,1T @ 3.5v
sauria
04-29-2005, 07:23 PM
I'm a bit carefull before buying these modules
2*256Mb pc4000 OCZ VX ...
After reading this thread, I dont realy know what to do ?
Everybody advices to run these modules at an DFI board but I'm using the MSI Neo2 Platinum...
Any info ?
They need volts to run tight timings
andyOCZ
04-29-2005, 07:29 PM
I'm a bit carefull before buying these modules
2*256Mb pc4000 OCZ VX ...
After reading this thread, I dont realy know what to do ?
Everybody advices to run these modules at an DFI board but I'm using the MSI Neo2 Platinum...
Any info ?
If you can't put 3.3v-3.4v into the VX memory, it will not work for you. TCCD is best at lower volts.
I have a OCZ DDR Booster
And I already have some tccd (OCZ pc4000 gold rev2) who manages to do 290HTT but i want tighter timings.
Any advice ?
Aleman
05-08-2005, 02:23 AM
I have a OCZ DDR Booster
And I already have some tccd (OCZ pc4000 gold rev2) who manages to do 290HTT but i want tighter timings.
Any advice ?
I think that UTT at 260~270mhz with tight timings get way better perfomance than 290mhz loose timings. (u could use a divider and done ;))
Rabbi_NZ
05-08-2005, 09:24 PM
1) UTT @ 270 is damn rear... and probably not possible at 3.5vDimm unless you get damn lucky sticks.
2) I am pretty sure OCZ pc4000 gold rev2 are Hynix DT-D5 chips... Hynix for sure but the code may be different
Aleman
05-09-2005, 07:10 AM
1) UTT @ 270 is damn rear... and probably not possible at 3.5vDimm unless you get damn lucky sticks.
2) I am pretty sure OCZ pc4000 gold rev2 are Hynix DT-D5 chips... Hynix for sure but the code may be different
Im not saying 3.5v, thats way to less. All the DFI Owners got 4volts to burn those chips up to the sky ;).
Jacke2k
05-10-2005, 09:43 AM
What is the safe 24/7 v for the vx ?
pumbertot
05-10-2005, 09:52 AM
What is the safe 24/7 v for the vx ?
if you have a fan blowing over them id say up to 3.7V is safe enough for 24/7 use but the best way to decide is by how they clock.
e.g. if you get 265MHz 2-2-2 at 3.5V but only up to 268MHz at 3.7V then better off running at 3.5V.
however if say they wont go above 250MHz at 3.5V but will go to 265MHz at 3.7V then you now which one to go with. ;)
pumbertot
05-10-2005, 09:54 AM
[QUOTE=Rabbi_NZ]1) UTT @ 270 is damn rear... and probably not possible at 3.5vDimm unless you get damn lucky sticks.
i disagree having had 2 sets of VX and one of twinmos UTT all doing above 265MHz at 3.5V.
Jacke2k
05-10-2005, 12:05 PM
if you have a fan blowing over them id say up to 3.7V is safe enough for 24/7 use but the best way to decide is by how they clock.
e.g. if you get 265MHz 2-2-2 at 3.5V but only up to 268MHz at 3.7V then better off running at 3.5V.
however if say they wont go above 250MHz at 3.5V but will go to 265MHz at 3.7V then you now which one to go with. ;)
I'v got a xp120 and it stretches over both mems so the cooling problem i think is solved.
Revv23
05-10-2005, 07:00 PM
id be careful with 24/7 at 3.7, the max most went on BH chips were 3.6 24/7... but i guess i havent heard of too much dieing anyways...i think anything over 3.4 becomes a risk, but all overclocking is a risk, just a matter if you want to take it.
Jacke2k
05-10-2005, 11:59 PM
Thats true but i think the vx has garanti up to 3.5 v
loc.o
05-11-2005, 12:04 AM
They are actually rated 3,5v + 5% makes 3,675v
Der_KHAN
05-11-2005, 03:01 AM
so, i can rma my vx if it gets errors on 3.5v while 3.3v at the same clocks is stable!?
loc.o
05-11-2005, 04:08 AM
I just meant 3,675 is max volt you can feed it without loosing yr warranty.
FireDragon
05-11-2005, 05:11 AM
PFFT warrenty...who needs it!!!
Any way this is some GREAT ram..you can get a little more performance out of by using cas 1.5 and not loose any OC...But i love mine better than BH-5 but hell it is CH-5-UTT...some new BH-5-UTT is cooming out here in the near future though...
Dragon
Revv23
05-11-2005, 05:47 AM
They are actually rated 3,5v + 5% makes 3,675v
wow, forgot they raised it.
Gray Mole
05-13-2005, 02:21 PM
Just thought I'd post a taste of my VX results...
I'm running it at about 3.675
I'm impressed, only a little over a week of running it so far, and have gotten some pretty good results, though only 2meg SPI stable so far...
Gray
pumbertot
05-13-2005, 02:32 PM
Just thought I'd post a taste of my VX results...
I'm running it at about 3.675...errr what's the warranty limit again? ;)
I'm impressed, only a little over a week of running it so far, and have gotten some pretty good results, though only 2meg SPI stable so far...
Gray
i take it you arent memtest stable then?
Aleman
05-13-2005, 02:33 PM
@Gray Mole: Wow, 1.5-2-2-5-7-15 1T at 267mhz using "only" 3.675v Respect :).
Gray Mole
05-13-2005, 02:46 PM
Don't know mate, I haven't used memtest since I got rid of my DFI board, it was all right when I had memtest built in, but too much trouble for now...
'sides...if you're not 32m SPi stable, you're not fully memtest stable, I would imagine...
and some stuff in the piccy...I think I like the ram at cas2 anyway for now, at least until I start heavily benching it again, waiting for some vmods on my card so maybe next week...
Still not quite 4 meg stable yet, but it'll burn in I'm sure, and if it doesn't...well I have 2 other 24/7 rigs, and they run tccd...I want more speed, not more stability, but that's just me...
Gray
edit, that was meant to have the spd for the VX in there :slap: not 2 of the same cpuz shots
I've added a sub-37 pifast in there as well, it ran 269 at 1.5-2-2-5 long enough to take that, but I didn't want to risk losing it to a blue screen :eek:
andyOCZ
05-14-2005, 09:59 PM
so, i can rma my vx if it gets errors on 3.5v while 3.3v at the same clocks is stable!?
No, use what works for you. The higher voltage if for modules that like that much. The voltage you need depends on your board and CPU.
Gray Mole
05-15-2005, 01:36 AM
I'm not really sure I'd understand why you'd WANT to rma sticks that will work well with lower volts...
Generally I've found that you add voltage to compensate for instability, not just for the sake of it...
If you find that 3.3v works, and then you up your speed or tighten your timings and THEN if you have instability you add a little voltage, you might find that 3.5v works for you...
My FX-55 is unstable at 1.85vcore...but rock stable at 1.73vcore, both at 3.2ghz...I'm not gonna complain about that lol but if I can get some better cooling that'll let me up the clocks a bit more, I may need that extra voltage to stabilize it, and may find that it ISN'T unstable at those higher volts when the speed is actually using it...
You see what I'm saying?
Gray
Der_KHAN
05-15-2005, 07:17 AM
yep, i know what u mean.
but because my mem is fine at 260/3.3 i was really hoping that it would do 270 at 3.5-3.6v so i could run it 1:1
and i thought since ocz gives a lifetime warranty for 3.5v they expect all of their VX sticks to like that much volts
pumbertot
05-15-2005, 07:31 AM
yep, i know what u mean.
but because my mem is fine at 260/3.3 i was really hoping that it would do 270 at 3.5-3.6v so i could run it 1:1
and i thought since ocz gives a lifetime warranty for 3.5v they expect all of their VX sticks to like that much volts
hey have you tried the new 510-2 bios for ultra-d mate?
my max vx overclock went from 264 to 268 so you might get those few MHz you need. ;)
Gray Mole
05-15-2005, 10:17 AM
yep, i know what u mean.
but because my mem is fine at 260/3.3 i was really hoping that it would do 270 at 3.5-3.6v so i could run it 1:1
and i thought since ocz gives a lifetime warranty for 3.5v they expect all of their VX sticks to like that much volts
Nice!
If they'll do that at 3.3, you might just get that with the extra volts...
How long have you been using them? After a while of burning in, they should stabilize at higher speeds I would think...
I had just found a setting for 270mhz that was working before I had some issues, so your will probably do that speed for you with a little playing, and possibly with some bios changes...
Mine is on NF3 Neo2, and your volts from the DFI(if that's what you're using?) might be more predictable that my booster...
Gray
Jacke2k
05-16-2005, 08:49 PM
Nice!
If they'll do that at 3.3, you might just get that with the extra volts...
How long have you been using them? After a while of burning in, they should stabilize at higher speeds I would think...
I had just found a setting for 270mhz that was working before I had some issues, so your will probably do that speed for you with a little playing, and possibly with some bios changes...
Mine is on NF3 Neo2, and your volts from the DFI(if that's what you're using?) might be more predictable that my booster...
GraySo the vx works fine on he neo 2 board ?
My mem dont like this board I think cant get it over 210 :confused:
Have tested v from 2.9-3.6 and all sorts of bios :(
So my next mem will be vx :D
pumbertot
05-17-2005, 04:24 AM
So the vx works fine on he neo 2 board ?
My mem dont like this board I think cant get it over 210 :confused:
Have tested v from 2.9-3.6 and all sorts of bios :(
So my next mem will be vx :D
yeay my vx does 268 in dfi but did 264 in the neo so pretty good for it.
hpaco
05-28-2005, 12:04 PM
How are you cooling your systems?
Im looking toward the VX but I dont know want to have heat issues.
I have an arctic silencer for the cpu and a 80mmfan in front of my PC4400c25 (Lian Li PC-75 case), would be enough?
Also for a everyday setup would be better the VX or better kept my corsair sticks?
I want to change because my memory controller seems to be going to the dark side :) I used to get 300Mhz out of my memory, but now I get mem test errors even at specs (275mhz 2.5-4-4-6). lowering to 260 its ok, so maybe 260 or so is the new mhz limit to my memory controller and thats why im thinking about the VX's (no money to change CPU and some guy is in line for my memory).
update: oh I forgot I have an DFI Ultra-D so no problems about the voltaje, the proc its a 3500+ winnie
sauria
05-28-2005, 12:07 PM
VX requires extreme voltage and runs hot but can take it.
Where can i get those VX!
Need them shipped to denmark!
[G.N.U.]Fragman
06-10-2005, 04:06 AM
just bought them in DK ...pc4000VX gold...... just running 2-3-3-8 @ 3v @ 250FSB right now...tried 2-2-2-11 but couldnt take memtest #5 ......i have them on my DFI nf4 and i think there was a way to give 3.5v in bios with just moving 1 jumper instead of them all for 4v option......what kan be expected at cl 2 @ 3,5v ???? and cl 2.5???
KingZer0
06-10-2005, 12:11 PM
Question folks:
What are the steps to make use of the OCZ warranty if my RAM :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up?
Does OCZ offer an OnlineRMA method or what is the usual procedure?
I am from germany btw so maybe its a little bit different for me.
computer_geek
06-17-2005, 02:09 AM
hi all extreme overclockers
my new ram arrived ocz vw 3200 1024
so far i have got it to 240 on 2.9v cas 2.5.2.2.8
my specs are
xp3000
nf7-s rev2.0 with all volt mods done
gf2ti
1024 ocz 3200vwd
conrad.maranan
06-17-2005, 02:15 AM
Question folks:
What are the steps to make use of the OCZ warranty if my RAM :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up?
Does OCZ offer an OnlineRMA method or what is the usual procedure?
I am from germany btw so maybe its a little bit different for me.
Check out our OCZ Technology Information and Support (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=138) section of the forum. We have several OCZ representatives online on a regular basis. They'll take good care of you. ;)
hi all extreme overclockers
my new ram arrived ocz vw 3200 1024
so far i have got it to 240 on 2.9v cas 2.5.2.2.8
my specs are
xp3000
nf7-s rev2.0 with all volt mods done
gf2ti
1024 ocz 3200vwd
Turn up the voltage and run CAS2 instead of CAS2.5.
computer_geek
06-17-2005, 04:01 AM
ok i have upped the volts to 3.1v @240 as soon as i go 242 bsods on me
any suggestions please ?
this is the bios i am using ABIT-NF7D10-MantaRaysXT-2T
Aleman
06-17-2005, 07:57 AM
Before even entering in Windows, check your stability with Memtest86 v1.51
pumbertot
06-17-2005, 08:05 AM
How are you cooling your systems?
Im looking toward the VX but I dont know want to have heat issues.
I have an arctic silencer for the cpu and a 80mmfan in front of my PC4400c25 (Lian Li PC-75 case), would be enough?
Also for a everyday setup would be better the VX or better kept my corsair sticks?
I want to change because my memory controller seems to be going to the dark side :) I used to get 300Mhz out of my memory, but now I get mem test errors even at specs (275mhz 2.5-4-4-6). lowering to 260 its ok, so maybe 260 or so is the new mhz limit to my memory controller and thats why im thinking about the VX's (no money to change CPU and some guy is in line for my memory).
update: oh I forgot I have an DFI Ultra-D so no problems about the voltaje, the proc its a 3500+ winnie
yeah go for it. an 80mm Silenx Fan is all I have blowing on them and it keeps them barely warm to touch.for everyday i still say vx. it will not give you heat issues.
computer_geek
06-17-2005, 06:15 PM
ok i ran memtest it is strange the way it behaves as i started with test 1 it showed errors all over the place i then chose test 5 it had no errors right up till pass 97 then it would throw up 1670 errors so does this mean it just needs some burning in to get rid of these errors?
update : i now cant boot my machine i have a corrupted bios i have 2 bios chips both need flashing so i have to wait till monday to fix them up damn it
'
BMORIN
06-17-2005, 09:17 PM
I had the strangest pair of VX that I've ever seen. It can pass '01 @ 270 but can't memtest any higher than 225 in dual channel. When I test the sticks alone they are clean through 265, but together, they error out over 225. Go figure that. But yesterday one of the sticks inexplicably died and are getting rma'd anyhow.
Playful_Buffalo
06-17-2005, 09:23 PM
hmmmm, did you try any other stability tests (like 32m pi or p95)
BMORIN
06-17-2005, 10:06 PM
p95 would fail over 225
desolator
06-21-2005, 04:38 AM
just wondering which is better, the OCZ VX PC4000 1GB or the Mushkin Redline PC4000 1GB, im gonna be using it with an Abit AN8 Ultra and 3000+ venice
DamienKC
06-22-2005, 08:21 AM
Just an update. I got my second stick working again 2 days ago. I'm running dual channel on 240mhz, 1.5-2-2-5, on just 3.25v here guys. Memtest error-free. This ram rocks a little too much :banana:
Just got this puppies from a friend in USA :)
http://img235.echo.cx/img235/8619/hpim04543md.th.jpg (http://img235.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim04543md.jpg) http://img235.echo.cx/img235/2228/hpim04555np.th.jpg (http://img235.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim04555np.jpg) http://img235.echo.cx/img235/5677/hpim04566zc.th.jpg (http://img235.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim04566zc.jpg) http://img235.echo.cx/img235/7086/hpim04594ev.th.jpg (http://img235.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim04594ev.jpg) http://img235.echo.cx/img235/8257/hpim04606pj.th.jpg (http://img235.echo.cx/my.php?image=hpim04606pj.jpg)
whole weekend of testing ahead :banana:
Magnj
06-24-2005, 07:04 AM
Yea my mem is real good. At one point I managed like 250 2-2-2-10 memtest Eroor free for hours. But my mem controller can't handle 2-2-2-10 at any speed I have to run 2-3-2-10
uwackme
06-24-2005, 03:04 PM
Nice TEDY. Keep in mind I had to have 618-2 bios and BankInterleave OFF to make mine happy, but 250mhz 1T @ 3.2Vdimm now, still waiting RMA to return before testing these at 4x512M.
I will try yes -1 or -2 ; Interlave OFF why ?
hm 250 at 3.2 is great result :)
Just tried them a little
250 2-2-2-6 at 3.4v
HOW SHOULD I BURN THEM ???? suggest :=)
pumbertot
06-25-2005, 09:41 AM
Just tried them a little
250 2-2-2-6 at 3.4v
HOW SHOULD I BURN THEM ???? suggest :=)
find a max stable speed at 3.2V then loop memtest 5 or 8 overnight.then try increase by 1MHz and do same next night.when not burning in(during the day) run them at say 200MHz 3-3.1V so they are taking a break. after a couple of nights up to 3.3V and do same.once you reach the 3.5V mark and highest speed then loop them overnight @3.5V and max speed. next day drop to 3.2V and run them in windows as normal with relaxed speed(less than their 3.2V max). then that night try to drop the volts as little as poss and try to run at the max speed they did at 3.5V.dont use memtest but use something like sandra bandwidth burn-in on a constant loop.repeat this method overnight using different mem stressors that dont halt on errors.hopefully you will reach the previous max clock on slightly lower volts giving a higher max clock at 3.5V.be patient and try this over a few weeks.
this worked great for me.they creeped up from max @ 3.5V 260 to 268/9MHz after about a week of this method.
pumbertot
06-25-2005, 09:49 AM
I will try yes -1 or -2 ; Interlave OFF why ?
hm 250 at 3.2 is great result :)
stick to -2 works great.but try various BIOS once you find the max clock with burnin(above). I found hellfire modded to be best for me while others 510-2,618-2 etc.
using 618-2 now....sandra bandwidth burn in you mean memory burn in ? :=) thanks
what settings did you used pumpertot ?
i have 4 sticks to test till monday when i'll keep 2 for me....how can i determine 2 best of 4 ? :toast:
pumbertot
06-26-2005, 01:50 AM
using 618-2 now....sandra bandwidth burn in you mean memory burn in ? :=) thanks
what settings did you used pumpertot ?
i have 4 sticks to test till monday when i'll keep 2 for me....how can i determine 2 best of 4 ? :toast:
the ones that do highest on memtest 5 at 3.2V are the ones to keep.
yes memroy burn-in.
settings, well start with these in order in BIOS.
1.5
2
5
2
8
15
3
3
2
2
3120
auto
en
auto
0
auto
level8
level2
8ns
6ns
16
en
16x
7x
dis
then you can maybe tighten some of:trc,trfc,twr,twtr,trtw,trrd,max async,read preamble once you find the highest stable clock.
e.g. trc=7 might be stable but may not. also I can run trfc14,max async 6ns,read preamble 4ns while others cant etc. so just experiment after finding highest speed poss after burn-in.
also try the 510-2 as i can clock about 10MHz higher than with 618-2 but may be different for you so find highest on 618-2 after burnin then try 510-2.
good luck and happy burning/oc. ;)
pumbertot
06-26-2005, 01:57 AM
just wondering which is better, the OCZ VX PC4000 1GB or the Mushkin Redline PC4000 1GB, im gonna be using it with an Abit AN8 Ultra and 3000+ venice
both are great have tried both.ocz rma and support is 2nd to none so id pick them for backup.
after some burnin i get 245 at 3.2 , when i got they barerly did 240 at 3.2 :)
yummi :=)
[G.N.U.]Fragman
06-26-2005, 05:18 PM
100% stable with 1T 250FSB 2-3-3-6 @ 3.2 ..perhaps i can take it a little more...
why 2-3-3-6 ???????????????????????????????????
Aleman
06-27-2005, 08:58 AM
why 2-3-3-6 ???????????????????????????????????
Coz UTT-CH based OC´s higher with a little of looser timings.
bradmax57
06-27-2005, 09:02 AM
Coz UTT-CH based OC´s higher with a little of looser timings.
um slightly out of place i spose but my ch-5 ram will do 265 2-2-2-5 3.3v (tis not ocz tho)
Holly cow, this ram getting better and better after BURNING IN
Now i'm at 254 2-2-2-6 at 3.2v
:woot:
Clevor
06-28-2005, 03:03 AM
I posted this on Bacchus's thread. These are VX3200 Gold Edition. No tendency to develop #6 errors at max clocks in either SC or DC, plus running 270x10 with default LDT and chipset voltage. Only needs 3.5 VDIMM too.
No burn in. If you include the 26' to run 32M, the sticks have a total of maybe 2.5 hours run time. I've never run them under 3.3 volts.
Moonman
06-29-2005, 10:47 PM
http://www.shrani.si/pics/burning30664_resized.jpg
This is with my VX3200. Now running at 200Mh@3.2V prime "large, in place FFTs - stress ram". Is this good for burn in or should I use sandra memory loop.
andyOCZ
06-30-2005, 12:03 AM
This is with my VX3200. Now running at 200Mh@3.2V prime "large, in place FFTs - stress ram". Is this good for burn in or should I use sandra memory loop.
Hi, to do 240mhz with the VX you will likely need at least 3.3v and a good power supply, although 507 passes and only 52 errors could indicate a heat issue. Do you have a fan blowing on your memory?
Running the Prime95 "Blend Test" is what is typically used for Windows stress testing.
Moonman
06-30-2005, 12:13 AM
I removed a fan when I was measuring vdimm from a mosfet, so last 12 errors came in loop 586.
Before thist there were 40 errors, so it might be heat issue.
So you suggest to loop sandra mem?
Tnx for quick reply
pumbertot
06-30-2005, 01:03 PM
http://www.shrani.si/pics/burning30664_resized.jpg
This is with my VX3200. Now running at 200Mh@3.2V prime "large, in place FFTs - stress ram". Is this good for burn in or should I use sandra memory loop.
dpont be so lazy.the previous page or one before that I explained how to burn in.read lazy man. :p
Moonman
07-01-2005, 03:38 AM
Done, now burning at 246Mhz 2-2-2-8@3.35V :D
Tnx for guide.
pumbertot
07-01-2005, 08:53 AM
Done, now burning at 246Mhz 2-2-2-8@3.35V :D
Tnx for guide.
no probs matey. ;)
btw tRAS gives best bandwidth at 5 and I find it just as stable as a number >5.
Jacke2k
07-03-2005, 09:23 AM
I have a smal question. I have burnd in my vx over the night at 2.2.2.7 200 mhz at 3.2 v. Then I tryed 240 at 3.4 v but i got some errors in mamtest. Sholud I try to burn them in at 240 whit 3.4 v ? Thay got real hot when I run memtest and I got no god cooling for them. The only cooling is the fan that is sitting on my xp120. Do you think i need to get more cooling ?
Der_KHAN
07-03-2005, 10:24 AM
Do you think i need to get more cooling ?yes. :)
yuhu
DC 250 2-2-2-8 3.2v :)
slower ram in closest orange slot + better ram in farthest orange slot :)
lol memtest#5 no errors but when i try superpi......doesn't even start, where's the catch ???
Aleman
07-04-2005, 02:18 PM
TEDY @ tried tRFC @ 16?
yes that's why it's weird
here's pic of A64 TWEAKER
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7257/a647xj.jpg
Jacke2k
07-05-2005, 02:47 AM
How did you get it to 254 whit only 3.2 v ? My need 3.4 and still I get errors in memtest. I got 12 errors after 9 h of memtest.
Jacke2k
07-05-2005, 04:08 AM
I want to be lucky some times to =( :P
Tedy my mother is from Slovenija :D
Moonman
07-05-2005, 05:03 AM
TEDY Tooo lucky :banana:
My 3200VX also need 3.4V for 250Mhz 2-2-2-5
pumbertot
07-05-2005, 10:52 AM
TEDY Tooo lucky :banana:
My 3200VX also need 3.4V for 250Mhz 2-2-2-5
mine do 260 @ 3.2V in memtest all test al day but need 3.4V to be fully stable in windows such as S&M stable.
i don't get it really........why is this happening ?
pumbertot
07-05-2005, 03:12 PM
i don't get it really........why is this happening ?
well i think its because in memtest the cpu onboard mem controller isnt too involved but once in windows stress testing it is so dimms need extra voltage for the communications between them and controller. at least thats my theory.....
Moonman
07-05-2005, 07:56 PM
Isn't memtest #8 for windows stability?
pumbertot
07-05-2005, 10:40 PM
Isn't memtest #8 for windows stability?
doesnt seem to work that way though.
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-18-2005, 06:18 AM
my new SD 3700+ wont go beyond 240FSB so perhaps the bios could be the bugger (310) so which one for my pc4000VX would be the best (wont use 7** ) ? 526 sounded good, but dont know what changes have been made in the 6** and what version to choose.
loc.o
07-18-2005, 06:48 AM
I would go for 510-2 FIXED (23-06-2005)
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-18-2005, 10:51 AM
just tied with 623-3 ...worked fine at 220FSB it didnt need any extra vcore....but then it was like hitting a brick wall.....230 1.5 in vcore!!! and only stable 240@ 1-6v ....this is very disappointing.
andyOCZ
07-18-2005, 11:34 AM
Fragman']just tied with 623-3 ...worked fine at 220FSB it didnt need any extra vcore....but then it was like hitting a brick wall.....230 1.5 in vcore!!! and only stable 240@ 1-6v ....this is very disappointing.
Try these timings/settings: http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showpost.php?p=70046&postcount=3
Let us know how you do.
Giana
07-19-2005, 05:48 AM
Anyvbody knows how this sticks owrk on DFI NF3 Ultra-D ( my board is great ! )
eliminate
07-19-2005, 06:29 AM
I think that the VX is great and all, but if you guys really want to overclock your RAM, then you should have gone with the Mushkin RedLine. The RedLine can go up to about DDR587 or something whereas the VX cannot. I have two sticks on the Mushkin RAM and I am very pleased with them; I haven't tried the VX yet though.
KingYubbo
07-19-2005, 07:33 AM
VX are super cheap... so even though it doesn't go to those massive speeds, $$$ > small increase in performance. For me anyway.... cos 250mhz VVX is great for me.
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-19-2005, 08:26 AM
well it isnt the RAM that are slowing me down..... 2-3-3-8 @ 250 @ 3.2v is possible....but my cpu wont go stable past 245 with less than 1.65 ....and this is close to my limit...its a 24/7 setup so it must be stable.......dont know how high to go because i dont trust those damn temp sensors @ board..... about 38-40 says ITE on load....XP120 and a 1100RPM revoltec on top.....that seems to me to little to be true.....
KingYubbo
07-19-2005, 09:48 AM
does cas 1.5 work better than 2 with these? I have to use 3.5v to get 250mhz stable on DFI Ultra-D
speed bump
07-19-2005, 09:58 AM
Apparently Cas1.5 does work with these and i'm not sure how much you gain though
KingYubbo
07-20-2005, 11:13 AM
Anyone got a Venice running these with dividers and can tell me what settings they use in the BIOS? I'm having a little trouble with the dividers as it's giving me Primeing errors. Rounding times etc.
desert_eagle
07-26-2005, 02:47 AM
Hey Guys,
I heard the News BH-5/UTT don't run on S478 Boards/CPUs. They should only run on A64. I have some New BH-5 (noname) running on my S478 P4-M, but it doesn't work good. So this could be right. Can you say me some more about this? In some weeks I want to buy some new Ram and decided to take the OCZ VX Series with the new UTT. But do they run on S478 Boards/CPUs? Or must I take another Ram?
Please help me.
Giana
08-08-2005, 12:34 PM
UTT/BH5 are WORKING on S478 . GOt some Twinmos Twister BH5 on my P4C800-E dlx.
bullet2urbrain
08-08-2005, 10:58 PM
just a couple real quick questions
just got some OCZ PC4000 VX..... they are refurb'd tho... will i still need to do the "Burn in" process?
can someone point me to how to do the "Burn IN"
are the PC4000 tested @ 250 for sure.. my corsairs will run 250 but at super loose timings. i can give the UTT 3+ volts..
also which BIOS for DFI SLI-DR...........sorry for the repetitive question.
dmo580
08-10-2005, 08:22 PM
Just burn them in 250 @ 2-2-2-10 @ 3.3.
I'm testing 257 2-2-2-5 @ 3.3. Looks good so far in memtest #5.
dmo580
08-10-2005, 08:35 PM
I'm at 2-2-2-5 @ 259 MHz using 3.3V. I don't know if this is g ood or not. 0 errors so far after 10 min of Memtest, but Im surprised it didnt ask for 3.4v by now.... So far so good, but I'll leave it on for a few more hours
Vapor
08-10-2005, 09:05 PM
That ain't bad dmo...of course we're all interested in what it can do with more voltage though. :p:
I'm at 2-2-2-5 @ 259 MHz using 3.3V. I don't know if this is g ood or not. 0 errors so far after 10 min of Memtest, but Im surprised it didnt ask for 3.4v by now.... So far so good, but I'll leave it on for a few more hours
not bad huh... nice ram u got :)
walaustin
08-11-2005, 04:52 AM
hi, first sorry my english is too bad
i bougth this kit today (i'm from chile) and go to burn process with memtest
i put the rams 200Mhz 2-2-2-x 3.2v but in less than 1 min there are aprox 32 errors
please help
the rams are bad??
3000+ winchester
dfi nf4 ultra-d oskar bios
6800gt
thnx
FiNcH64
08-11-2005, 12:08 PM
hi guys, i just recently bought a pair of 1gb kit ocz vx4000..
and i know that they suppose to work at 2 2 2 8 at 3.3 v... 250 mhz
so i use that configuration on my DFI sli dr, and it doesnt even boot to windows, seems that the screen freezes and the windows boot logo never appears :mad: .. i have even try to 3.5 v and no luck :confused:
so i tried to 245 mhz and apparently boots but with a lot of effort and unstable i suppose..
so im actualy burning in my ram at 2 2 2 6 3.3 v 250 mhz, and it appeared thousands and thousands of errors in test 5 in memtest 86..
do you think after i burn them for about 24 to 30 hours my problem with get solved?? or should i just RMA them :(
thanx in advance :toast:
AMDfan
09-02-2005, 11:17 AM
what's your Bios version ? :confused: you may have to reflashing your Bios, and check if you got the right timing seting :scope:
ZeroX
09-02-2005, 01:17 PM
With the burning u can increase the rams performance, but thousands of errors in memtests is too much.
I think is a bios problem. Try another bios what works well with UTT ram. Ask for recomendation...i heard that the 510 run well
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Tienes que flashear otra bios. Hay bios's especificas para rams con UTT. Pregunta a ver, pk yo no estoy muy enterado (no tengo nf4 :rolleyes:)
Y el burning se hace con el memtest dandote algunos errores... no miles xD
ZeroX
09-02-2005, 01:19 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=73078 :D
Regards
andyOCZ
09-02-2005, 01:19 PM
hi guys, i just recently bought a pair of 1gb kit ocz vx4000..
and i know that they suppose to work at 2 2 2 8 at 3.3 v... 250 mhz
so i use that configuration on my DFI sli dr, and it doesnt even boot to windows, seems that the screen freezes and the windows boot logo never appears :mad: .. i have even try to 3.5 v and no luck :confused:
so i tried to 245 mhz and apparently boots but with a lot of effort and unstable i suppose..
so im actualy burning in my ram at 2 2 2 6 3.3 v 250 mhz, and it appeared thousands and thousands of errors in test 5 in memtest 86..
do you think after i burn them for about 24 to 30 hours my problem with get solved?? or should i just RMA them :(
thanx in advance :toast:
Did this get resolved? It sounds like your BIOS version/slots or settings are the problem. The VX (and any RAM really) needs special tweaks on the DFI NF4 to work properly.
Let us know.
varzmaster
09-02-2005, 01:25 PM
Nice to see you guys watching out for such cases! :)
Clearly this is not a RAM issue. I remember my first trials with BH-6 on the DFI LP UT nF4... wasting a whole night to get them working 270 MHz 2-2-2-5 @ 3.8V stable through Memtest86+.
andyOCZ
09-02-2005, 01:27 PM
Nice to see you guys watching out for such cases! :)
Clearly this is not a RAM issue. I remember my first trials with BH-6 on the DFI LP UT nF4... wasting a whole night to get them working 270 MHz 2-2-2-5 @ 3.8V stable through Memtest86+.
Hehe, yup! Been there...........
pumbertot
09-02-2005, 03:07 PM
I think that the VX is great and all, but if you guys really want to overclock your RAM, then you should have gone with the Mushkin RedLine. The RedLine can go up to about DDR587 or something whereas the VX cannot. I have two sticks on the Mushkin RAM and I am very pleased with them; I haven't tried the VX yet though.
what you are saying someone had mushkin redline @ 293MHz 2-2-2-5 and you are saying it as if they all do that impossible figure? i highly doubt it, lay off the drugs man. :p:
andyOCZ
09-03-2005, 10:13 PM
what you are saying someone had mushkin redline @ 293MHz 2-2-2-5 and you are saying it as if they all do that impossible figure? i highly doubt it, lay off the drugs man. :p:
hehe
:slapass:
Jacke2k
09-05-2005, 04:28 AM
I have the vx pc3200 and I have tested them att 235 whit 3.3 v and hade 4 errors after 25 h. Now I'm changing my motherboard from msi neo 2 to an dfi sli-d. what bios should I use for my vx mem ?
And do you have any tip on how to get my mem higher ?
pumbertot
09-05-2005, 04:48 AM
I have the vx pc3200 and I have tested them att 235 whit 3.3 v and hade 4 errors after 25 h. Now I'm changing my motherboard from msi neo 2 to an dfi sli-d. what bios should I use for my vx mem ?
And do you have any tip on how to get my mem higher ?
623-2 BIOS. and put 3.5V into them. ;)
loc.o
09-05-2005, 05:01 AM
I prefer 510-2FIX (6-23-2005) On these settings and 3,5v mine will do 250 rocksolid. More volts will get them up to 270. Settings:
Genie BIOS Settings:
FSB Bus Frequency - 250
LDT/FSB Frequency Ration - 4
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio - 12
PCI eXpress Frequency - 100Mhz
CPU VID StartUp Value - 1.5v
CPU VID Control - 1.425v
CPU VID Special Control - Avove VID * 113%
LDT Voltage Control - 1.30v
Chip Set Voltage Control - 1.50v
DRAM Voltage Control - 3.50v
DRAM Configuration Settings:
DRAM Frequency Set - 200 (DRAM/FSB:1/01)
Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable
CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 2.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 02 Bus Clocks
Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 05 Bus Clocks
Row precharge time (Trp) - 02 Bus Clocks
Row Cycle time (Trc) - 07 Bus Clocks
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 16 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time (Twr) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 01 Bus Clocks
Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 02 Bus Clocks
Refresh Period (Tref) – 1168 Cycles
Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - Auto
DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled
DQS Skew Control - Auto
DQS Skew Value - 0
DRAM Drive Strength - Level 8
DRAM Data Drive Strength - Auto
Max Async Latency - Auto
Read Preamble Time - Auto
IdleCycle Limit - 16 Cycles
Dynamic Counter - Disable
R/W Queue Bypass - 16 x
Bypass Max - 07 x
32 Byte Granularity - Disable(8 Bursts)
pumbertot
09-05-2005, 05:04 AM
DRAM Data Drive Strength - Level 4 with the 510-2FIX, since when?
options: level 1,2,3.
loc.o
09-05-2005, 05:08 AM
Yr right, Auto now, me bad. 4 was in old 510-2.
pumbertot
09-05-2005, 05:39 AM
Yr right, Auto now, me bad. 4 was in old 510-2.
:p: lol crazy Murdoc. :D
ZeroX
09-05-2005, 05:52 AM
:p: lol crazy Murdoc. :D
xDDD
That face say all
-=DouglasteR=-
09-06-2005, 07:49 AM
Anyone have tried 4x512 VX´s on NF4 Ultra D ?! :confused:
pumbertot
09-07-2005, 03:35 AM
Anyone have tried 4x512 VX´s on NF4 Ultra D ?! :confused:
yes i have 4x512mb PC3200VX running here on Ultra-D 2-2-2-5 2T 260MHz @ 3.5V. ;)
Jacke2k
09-09-2005, 02:34 AM
yes i have 4x512mb PC3200VX running here on Ultra-D 2-2-2-5 2T 260MHz @ 3.5V. ;) How do you cool it ? I can think it get realyt hot ;)
pumbertot
09-09-2005, 02:48 AM
How do you cool it ? I can think it get realyt hot ;)
zalman fan bracket with a silent 120mm fan mounted over them.they are barely warm @ 3.5V. i use this over any memory.
ps.the vx is for sale on here. ;)
gallardo
09-12-2005, 06:24 AM
I'm having a bit of trouble here... A friend of mine has asked me to help him with his computer (which I advised him to buy) and I can't seem to get it working properly...
The system:
X2 4400+
DFI Lanparty UT SLI-DR
OCZ VX PC4000
BFG 7800GTX OC (damn thing stays right on top of the northbridge cooler)
Enermax Noisetaker 600W
Thermalright XP90C + A.C. Ryan fan (I tryed with it at 2500rpm and it's the same as 1300rpm)
2x Maxtor 250GB 16MB NCQ in RAID 0
First, after he set it up, I saw 79800 points in Aquamark 3. After we put the new BIOS that recognized the dual core and we set up the RAID 0 we tryed again. Same drivers, same Windows with just a SP1 and without a video card oc. We got ~75000. Were did almost 4000 points go? We didn't mind so much... Next we tryed to make the RAM work as it should (it was at 2,5-3-3-8 at DDR400 at 2,6V until this point). This was without putting the jumper for the 4V for the memories. I tryed 3,1V and 2-2-2-5 at DDR400 (i didn't tweak the other settings as I really needed a guide for it... there are simply too many!!!). Went into memtest and we had errors.... Ok, set it at 3V and surprize, it works in memtest... Wierd. Super PI was not stable, though (32M). We left it default at 2,6V until I got more info about the various settings.
After I read a guide for the memory options in the DFI BIOS, I went back and this time I put the jumper for 4V (I said maybe it couldn't give enough voltage for the memorys since it was drawing power from 3.3V). (BTW: damn, there are soooo many power cables you have to connect for the DFI!!! Very power hungry!!!).
3,1V, DDR400 2-2-2-5 and default for the rest of the memory options (the things suggested in the guide gave me a nice beep after restart... It didn't work!). Memtest... reporting errors again. 3,2V. same thing. 3,3V same thing. After 3,4V and seeing errors again I was furious! I put 3V and the errors dissapeared. %@$*@$@
Of course, at more than 3V it was stable in PI 32M. At 3V it was not completely stable. Ok. I said to myself that this mainboard is not for default values. I overclocked it. 250x10 for the CPU with HTT at 1000MHz, RAM at 1:1 with the FSB, 3,3V and 2-2-2-5. Errors in memtest. Not stable. 3,4V and 2-2-2-8 (and less voltage for the CPU as it only needed 1,45V <<1,4V recognized in Windows>> to be half an hour dual prime stable... BTW, I know I shouldn't have just overclocked it to 2500MHz like that, but I was furious... lucky it worked! :D ). Errors in memtest, stable in Super PI 32M. Now what?
I have tryed with other settings in BIOS for the RAM and with default ones.. Memtest just keeps showing errors except for 3V DDR400. What to do?
BTW: We didn't burn in the RAM as we didn't thought it was needed. On the OCZ web page it says that it is certified at 250 2-2-2-8 3,3V. Well these don't work! What to do? I am waiting for a response from an official maybe...
Please help! He's gonna kill me for recommending him a DFI and OCZ VX...
Jacke2k
09-12-2005, 08:17 AM
Burn them in att 3.3 v and 250 mhz 2.2.2.10 and it should work.
RyderOCZ
09-12-2005, 09:55 AM
@ Gallardo,
What bios are you running? I recommend the 704-2BT...download it here: http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9917
Then try these settings:
In Genie Bios
250
auto
16 16
9
100
disable
1.450v
1.300V
above VID 110%
1.30v
1.70v
3.3V
Dram Config
200
enable
2.0
02
06
02
13
16
03
03
02
03
2064, 3072, or 3120
auto
enabled
auto
0
Level 8
Level 2
8ns
normal
6ns
256
disable
16
07
disable
loc.o
09-16-2005, 05:07 PM
VX PC3200, too bad 12x wont do, but quite nice.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/spi1M273loc.jpg
gallardo
09-24-2005, 10:47 AM
RyderOCZ, i have tryed the settings you suggested at DDR400 @ 3,3V and there were errors in Memtest (after like 5 seconds it starts counting errors). I set the memory at 3V (same settings) and it did about 10 minutes of memtest without any errors (test #5). Why? How? I didn't try the BIOS you suggested. Is it new enough to support Toledo X2 4400+?
RyderOCZ
09-24-2005, 11:53 AM
Yes it is the newest bios for the motherboard, it support Toledo just fine.
If you are getting 250 with 3.0V....that is awesome :D
gallardo
09-24-2005, 02:24 PM
No, it's not awesome! It's stupid! DDR400@3,3V sux in memtest. DDR400@3V stable in memtest. How is that? And the 3V is with the jumper on the mobo set to 3,2V max!
DDR500@3V won't even start (I tryed, thinking it'll be memtest stable :D ) and at 3,3 AND even 3,4V it's not memtest stable... WTF?!?
My friend did NOT pay 200$ for a pair of sticks that are COMPLETELY stable only at DDR400 2,5-3-3-8 @2,6V!!! What is going on???
RyderOCZ
09-24-2005, 03:09 PM
Send me an email....link is in my Sig :)
Thank You.
toreide
10-18-2005, 07:44 AM
VX PC3200, too bad 12x wont do, but quite nice.
Thats amazing! Are mem settings same as in your last post?
loc.o
10-24-2005, 07:35 AM
Thats amazing! Are mem settings same as in your last post?
Missed this one. Im 99% sure it was @ those timings above except for vdimm, this was 3,7v. Im looking for a pic with A64tweaker (not sure if i even have it) otherwise ill run 1M again and ad A64tweaker.
[edit] Same settings as in this one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/VX32m271small.jpg
steelballzz
10-25-2005, 05:13 PM
hey guys
i didnt read all this thread and i dont want to be a party crasher
but....
when i 1st bought vx 4000 i was on the search for the best mems on the market
high voltage with warranty up to 3,5v+-%,lifetime warranty....recomended to use with dfi nf4 mobo....well this has to be it...
bought a caa2c dfi sli-d and ocz vx 4000
i had the best 3 weeks of my ...still short....OC life...till the they died on me....
i could go up to 267 1,5-2-2-5 with 3,4v....i was amazed....rma time.. :slapass:
2nd pair arrived..."only" went to 261...3,35v... :toast: ....i was happy again.....till they died on me again....30 days later,even with a noiseblcker S4 in front of the mems....rma time again
3 rd pair arrived...well 250 3,3v seemed like conservative settings for this kind of mems...but i was happy again...250x11 was enough for me....
then it happened again....3 rd pair went to meet the maker...
its my shop rig..so i dont bench and throw volts at things cause i am working and i need a solid ,fast and reliable machine....i have a venice and an old pair of bh6 to bench at home.....
tony from ocz and sean were very nice and took care of the rma for me...i just need to send it to california....shipping and vat on the return will cost me about 180 dollars....150€.... :dammit: no go...to much money
ppl say dfi kills the mems....why does it killl only this kind of mems
i have bh6 and ch5 and i stress them a lot more than i did with the vx...even some ogrish things like 3,6v ...ya thats extreme for me
can u guys comment on this subject
thnxs
There is a huge thread covering this subject, in this thread you will see members with old BH5 from corsair and Kingston having just the same issues, One dimm dies.
Im sure we can work something out on RMA with you, i have instructed support to contact you.I would however ask you to move away from using VX.
steelballzz
10-25-2005, 07:31 PM
Im sure we can work something out on RMA with you, i have instructed support to contact you.I would however ask you to move away from using VX.
yes i want to move away from vx...i will wait ...cause 150€ in shipping and vat its hard for me to get....i know its not ocz fault that i live in europe
There is a huge thread covering this subject, in this thread you will see members with old BH5 from corsair and Kingston having just the same issues, One dimm dies.
i couldnt find it....searching in english is not one of my strong point...
what words should i search...and sorry for the threadjacking
thnxs
Eldonko
10-25-2005, 07:31 PM
hey guys
i didnt read all this thread and i dont want to be a party crasher
but....
when i 1st bought vx 4000 i was on the search for the best mems on the market
high voltage with warranty up to 3,5v+-%,lifetime warranty....recomended to use with dfi nf4 mobo....well this has to be it...
bought a caa2c dfi sli-d and ocz vx 4000
i had the best 3 weeks of my ...still short....OC life...till the they died on me....
i could go up to 267 1,5-2-2-5 with 3,4v....i was amazed....rma time.. :slapass:
2nd pair arrived..."only" went to 261...3,35v... :toast: ....i was happy again.....till they died on me again....30 days later,even with a noiseblcker S4 in front of the mems....rma time again
3 rd pair arrived...well 250 3,3v seemed like conservative settings for this kind of mems...but i was happy again...250x11 was enough for me....
then it happened again....3 rd pair went to meet the maker...
its my shop rig..so i dont bench and throw volts at things cause i am working and i need a solid ,fast and reliable machine....i have a venice and an old pair of bh6 to bench at home.....
tony from ocz and sean were very nice and took care of the rma for me...i just need to send it to california....shipping and vat on the return will cost me about 180 dollars....150€.... :dammit: no go...to much money
ppl say dfi kills the mems....why does it killl only this kind of mems
i have bh6 and ch5 and i stress them a lot more than i did with the vx...even some ogrish things like 3,6v ...ya thats extreme for me
can u guys comment on this subject
thnxs
It is the CH UTT chips, they are not durable like the old BH-5 but they do clock well. Lots of peoples RAM has died with 0 abuse and below stock voltage. I had 2 sticks of UTT CH die (so far..) and I wasn't too happy when my primo 270Mhz Redline died and I had to garbage it. =/
Vassili
11-10-2005, 12:06 AM
@ steelballzz
Do you use the 4Volt jumper? Because if so don't, because the 4Volt jumper can only work properly if you go past 3,5Volt (or maybe even higher). With less the mosfet is getting way to hot if it ain't cooled extreme.
steelballzz
11-10-2005, 08:36 AM
@ steelballzz
Do you use the 4Volt jumper? Because if so don't, because the 4Volt jumper can only work properly if you go past 3,5Volt (or maybe even higher). With less the mosfet is getting way to hot if it ain't cooled extreme.
yes
i need the 3,3 to feed the vx....
i am running some mushkin special bh6 for a couple of months with 3,35 24/7...using the jumper...
i am using the new vx kit in a new dfi....brand new.....with 623-3 shipping bios...running for 4 days..so far all is good...except for the speed of this ones...255 3,4v....worst kit i had so far....but i will give some time and see if they can go any further.....
i dont have an ocz psu so i canot perform the trick with the jumper to avoid the 4 v
This looks good, can't wait to get my set from pumbertot :D
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