OCZ VX, Best Memory made since BH5!!

[jinu117]

We have tested every module that has come back to us and many that were unstable on customers rigs are fine on the test rigs we use.We still swap out though to brand new modules.

I have a feeling there is more to the reasons for the lack of stability than meets the eye here...maybe its our boards or CPU's...its just hard to tell.

On a side note guys we test to 240 or so 2-2-2 but going by results seen on this thread overall results can be VERY different. I said this before and i feel i must repeat that this is NOT DDR500 ram, we don't test it that high as there are just to many factors involved in getting a solid guarantee at that speed.

Well in my case, that is hard to justify with above clause since the other sticks of VX were doing fine 256, 258, 267mhz @ 3.5v. To put blame on mobo or CPU is bit iffy unless I had 3 strange cpu and 2 mobos (yes the failed one in my book usually gets special treatments). If this type of incident is isolated only to me, these are very good memory for price. Even if it is not, if you don't have to RMA often (hah! :P) it still is.

As for 3.3 -> 3.5, I got about 6-10mhz gain. Rookie is going to test my good pair of VX on A8N and tell me if divider issue is still present on other mobos. (NF4 Sli one's especially... got this memory in anticipation of SLI anyway)

Bacchus, I suggest you try to boot with another memory quick before putting these VX one again. I don't quite know what it is but I had similar sympton and disappeared once I put TCCD in for short time and put VX back. Also, 3.51v, the memory approaches around 50c in my setup. booster pumping heat out from mosfet next to memory doesn't help either. Try better cooling real quick to see if that is the culprit.

[ryanpgroovy]

I think tonys point is that its PC-3200 and doing 2-2-2 at anything remotely near 500 is quite amazing by itself

Keep in mind sucess at overclocking is affected by so many things

for example I have 2 msi socket 939 motherboards in my personal lab , let me show you some results I got with a few pairs of PC-3200 rev 2 plat( max memtest stable speed 25 passes test 5 )

Kit # 1 board # 1 = 281
Kit # 1 board # 2 = 275

Kit #2 board # 1 = 273
Kit #2 board # 2 = 279


As you can see the results make no sense , just one CPU / board /PSU combo likes one pair better that the other

I am sure I could isolate the problem exactly given enough time , but we accept that things like room temp / electrical noise and so on vary.


Our solution to that problem is to build enough overhead into the products that its imposible not to mee the spec ( in this case the spec is 200 2-2-2 @ 3.3 volts )

[conrad.maranan]

I am sure I could isolate the problem exactly given enough time , but we accept that things like room temp / electrical noise and so on vary.
With that said, I'm buying myself a Zippy PSU for the Holidays. :D

[ryanpgroovy]

no no

buy a Powerstream :-D

[conrad.maranan]

I've had the pleasure of owning one already. It's time for me to step up to the big guns. ;)

[Rabbi_NZ]

PC P&C will be selling 800w PSUs soon...
MUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[ryanpgroovy]

traitors...


Now seriously If you guys have suggestions for things you want to see in a PSU send them to me , I will foward them to the folks that handle product development.

[Revv23]

for the low price of $80,000 hehe jk

[Rabbi_NZ]

traitors
Ryan,
I will happily swap my un-modded (still under warrantee) PC P&C 510w for a 600w OCZ PowerStream.
Wot d'you say dude, have we got a deal? hehehe

[STEvil]

lol :D

I've had a 600w powerstream on order since middle of last month.. darn retailer keeps pushing their ETA back :rolleyes:

Ah well, gives me time to dial in a few settings.

[conrad.maranan]

Check out the power of this beauty (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-712&depa=1).

EDIT:
I love how this thread has just become the multipurpose/emotional/let-your-feelings-flow thread. :D

[Rabbi_NZ]

Check out the power of this beauty (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-712&depa=1).
Sweeet mother of Santa!

[ryanpgroovy]

Zippy 650 +3.3V@45A, +5V@50A, +12V@36A

OCZ Powerstream 600 3.3V(28A),+5V(46A), +12V1(20A), +12V2(18A) total 12v 38A


It beats us a little, except the 12 volt... but not for long

[Rabbi_NZ]

That 3.3vRail is the real clincher for me... 2x512mb @ ridiculous must suck a fair bit of amps from that rail, and once the voltage is raised the amps available would fall... 45amps is jus plain naaasty

So Ryan, no mention on that offer I made you? :p:

[conrad.maranan]

If the Zippys are good enough for the top dogs in Japan, it's more than good enough for a frustrated overclocker in California like me. :D

[jinu117]

traitors...


Now seriously If you guys have suggestions for things you want to see in a PSU send them to me , I will foward them to the folks that handle product development.

1) Reasonable priced PSU. Bit hard to do but Powerstream 520W is about 15% more expensive in general than when it came out... LOL

2) Forget the size. We want the power. Looks are nice too but not worth sacrificing for power. I suggest you guys acquire Zippy 700W PSU yourself and see how lay out of PSU is drastically better as well as size of components used due to its length (22cm). I know it is not for everyone but so is the bigger than 600W PSU. Might as well go all out if you were going overboard anyway.

3) Despite the fact I didn't buy OCZ 600W, I love how your 20+4pin and 4+4pin lines are set up. Keep up the goodies.

4) Read PC&P's claim of how they measure, etc and claim similar act on your end.

5) Maybe another non standard connector with optional multi meter display that displays voltage of selected channel would be nice on this top dog. Easily switchable between 3.3v, 5v, 12v would give us better idea than LED for actual voltage supplied without having to probe too deep :P (Even using standard molex with different marking, etc could do it so people can still use DMM if they wish).

6).... I ran out of thinkings :) Now do I get something if one of my idea is used ? :)

[conrad.maranan]

I would like to see all of the above in a new product dubbed the OCZ Powerstream 690.

690W of ultra-clean power with the absolute bare-minimum noise
+3.3V@69A
+5V@69A
+12V@69A

We'll all refer to it as The Big 69er. I'll be willing to cough up $400 for one if you decide to put it out on the market. :slobber:

[Rabbi_NZ]

marketing would love it too!! LOL

[ryanpgroovy]

no idea what it is with the price of our products rising over time , the weird thing is we dropped the cost to retailers since the products have been released

notes take on the rest of the stuff

Sorry about getting off topic guys

[bachus_anonym]

sorry for going on with my "problem" but i finally fixed it.... ufff.. :)

so to summarize all my efforts, i'm back with error free "memtesting" @ DDR512 (as i was few days ago). the problem was voltage.... i'm at 3.45v now and even cranking volts to 3.5v generates errors now....

so, for now i just keep it burning at 3.45v and we'll see if i can squeeze out anything more of those VX :)

[conrad.maranan]

Fine wine gets better with age. You've only been sipping from the glass for 4 days. ;)

Here's to hoping you get what you want out of that memory.
:toast:

[jinu117]

Err... Rookie tested my memory with his awesome cooling prowess and steady voltage on dimm and got 270 2-2-2-x on my pair of sticks :) I am going to ask tomorrow exactly what he did when I see him to drop nice goody off (can we say SLI :P)

[JDizzle]

Do you guys reallly need a 700w+ PSU? How low are you rails using a 500w PSU? I ask because I can't imagine how my 530w Fortorn wouldn't be enough unless I ran some tecs or something.

[blinky]

Err... Rookie tested my memory with his awesome cooling prowess and steady voltage on dimm and got 270 2-2-2-x on my pair of sticks :) I am going to ask tomorrow exactly what he did when I see him to drop nice goody off (can we say SLI :P)he used the wire mod, u should give that a go ;)

[RocKer]

I would like to see all of the above in a new product dubbed the OCZ Powerstream 690.

690W of ultra-clean power with the absolute bare-minimum noise
+3.3V@69A
+5V@69A
+12V@69A

We'll all refer to it as The Big 69er. I'll be willing to cough up $400 for one if you decide to put it out on the market. :slobber:
Why go only to 690w,why not go direct to 1000w :devil: and make a beast of a PSU,now that woot be xtreme ;) .

[OPPAINTER]

Whats with all these big @ss PSUs. Do these things give you better benches or somthing?:D Do you guys really think you need more then 500W power supplies to get a good overclock these days?

OPP

[jinu117]

Whats with all these big @ss PSUs. Do these things give you better benches or somthing?:D Do you guys really think you need more then 500W power supplies to get a good overclock these days?

OPP

Not trying to argue with you but Honestly someone like me uses probably a lot more power than most of hardcore benchers would. It is actually quite simple as why. Bling bling fans, multiple HDDS (lot of times multiple raptors), multiple cd/dvd recorder,... you know... whole bunch of junks that doesn't get used for beching purposes (and even a lot of USB peripherals... I never thought I would run out of 4 USB port at back... I am using about 6-7 depening on back and 2 in front occasionally)
Add this to nice SLI and I can assure you I will most likely to be able to buckle majority of 500W PSU. (Even current rig when 3dmarking shows my 1100VA UPS @ 58% load when I am phasechange cooling with video overclocked. Qucik calculation shows I am using about 450+ watts granted PSU is running @ 70%. probably higher while gaming as hdd power is not in equation while playing game)
It is scarey trend but anyone with decent UPS, I suggest you test it out to see how much power you might be using... :)

[OPPAINTER]

You probably have a good point if people use that much stuff. I wouldn't make that type of rig a big overclocking unit though.
I do have a regualar everyday rig. I run 3x Raptors a, couple of DVD players, 3 fans and a Floppy on it:D
I use a POS 470W Noisetaker (http://www.xtremeresources.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=51)
Runs good though, this is the same rig I used to test the VX memory on without any power problems.

OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21257&stc=1

[trans am]

You probably have a good point if people use that much stuff. I wouldn't make that type of rig a big overclocking unit though.
I do have a regualar everyday rig. I run 3x Raptors a, couple of DVD players, 3 fans and a Floppy on it:D
I use a POS 470W Noisetaker (http://www.xtremeresources.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=51)
Runs good though, this is the same rig I used to test the VX memory on without any power problems.

OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21257&stc=1


LOL. I like how you mounted the rad. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21259&stc=1

[OPPAINTER]

Nice rig Trans Am:)

OPP

[NoX]

[OT] My rad is mounted in the same way. Do you guys have the fans pushing or pulling air from the case?

[eva2000]

Whats with all these big @ss PSUs. Do these things give you better benches or somthing?:D Do you guys really think you need more then 500W power supplies to get a good overclock these days?

OPP I say yes

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/asus/p4c800e_results/HC200_results/3.2EE/OCZ/PC3500LE/2x512/Asus6800U/images/6800U_445-1100_32EE_240FSB_433to614W.jpg

:D

[jikdoc]

what size apc ups are you using? i just purchased a 700VA for my rig and was wondering if that would be enough for a 520w psu and vaopchillLS. i'm wondering if i should have got a 1000va/670w

[goreblast]

Got three Belkin 800W UPS here - main rig running at 70% most of the time - 550W Antec PSU in it - must be almost maxxed out!

[eva2000]

what size apc ups are you using? i just purchased a 700VA/450w for my rig and was wondering if that would be enough for a 520w psu and vaopchillLS.
APC BackUPS RS 1500VA for 865W... can't find the optional APC BR24BP battery for this unit in OZ it triples the total wattage it can handle :)

[jikdoc]

i guess the apc smart700 won't cut it, time to look for another one

[OPPAINTER]

[OT] My rad is mounted in the same way. Do you guys have the fans pushing or pulling air from the case?
I'm not real concerned on my water temps for this rig, I have the Rad fan sucking out of the case.

OPP

[trans am]

i am sucking through the rad and blowing out the case... sucking and blowing lol!

[jinu117]

Jin, knowing your setup, (read from forum, heard from few other's etc), I suggest at least 1000VA. Use the 700VA for vapochillLS by itself and few oddities such as monitor :)
Even 1000VA if you calculate out will only power about tops 700W as PSU efficiecny on full load typically is around 70%. (you are actually drawing 1000W to cover that 700W)
700VA will only supply most likely 490W tops. Now, that gets real iffy with Vapo, monitor, CPU, etc.

OPP ->
The way I see it, I don't get any freebies like top benchers do. I pay for my stuff. In fact, I am not that heavy bencher at all as I concentrate more on maximum stable overclock for 24x7 use. I spent the money I plan to utilize it. (which I haven't been too much recently with new parts, tweaking, etc :P)
Could be gaming, could be compiling big fat codes, could be analyzing data.
Wish I could totally separate benching rig with daily rig but not possible for my budget as I do want really good stuff for my main rig as well :) Now, if I do get free stuff like some of you do, I guess it is not an issue or if I make more money than I do now :)
Most unfortunate of it all is, I enjoy playing game a lot and as you all know, most taxing application on entire system out of all application always happens to be gaming :) So, I must improvise and compromise in many ways. Wish I got some freebies too... or be beta tester for some products. Maybe I should start getting into habit of writing lengthy review of items.

[andyOCZ]

i am sucking through the rad and blowing out the case... sucking and blowing lol!

Sounds fatal. Take a rest. :)

[NoX]

:lol: :ROTF:

[OPPAINTER]

On MSI NF4 Neo4 mobo my VX is 3D proofed at 268MHz with timeings maxed out.
Gunna check for 166 divider issue now, see if there is one:D

OPP
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21347

[Revv23]

nice

[OPPAINTER]

Just booted into windows at 284HTT 166 divider no problem. Gunna work my way to 300 I hope.

OPP

[OPPAINTER]

This VX memory DOES NOT have a divider problem. It's all about the motherboard. Doing 290 now and going up:D

OPP

[conrad.maranan]

This VX memory DOES NOT have a divider problem. It's all about the motherboard. Doing 290 now and going up:D

OPP
Thank you for confirming my suspicions that the divider issue is, more than likely, chipset-related. :D

[OPPAINTER]

MSI NEO4 and VX doing 300HTT with 166 divider, easy money people:D

OPP
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21354&stc=1

[charlie]

MSI NEO4 and VX doing 300HTT with 166 divider, easy money people:D

OPP
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21354&stc=1

interesting!
But would 300+ 2.5-3-3-5 be faster? 1:1
Some good G.Skill may even run 8 x 337.......... 1:1

C

[jinu117]

This VX memory DOES NOT have a divider problem. It's all about the motherboard. Doing 290 now and going up:D

OPP

:banana4: Woot :banana4:
Thanks for checking. Getting Asus today and we shall see if Asus has that issue... Still checking to see if it is booster or the actual memory (VX) that is causing me so many RMA with OCZ. Will let you know in few hours.

[OPPAINTER]

interesting!
But would 300+ 2.5-3-3-5 be faster? 1:1

C
Those timing your talking about won't beat my 268 timings:D
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=643440#post643440

OPP

[kakaroto]

260Mhz 2-2-2-5 1T can be matched to ~ 290MHz 2.5-3-3-5 1T TCCD.

its about 30MHz.

I get 273x11 (BH5) 41.59sec pifast. With TCCD i get the same time at 300x10. (TCCD 2.5-3-3-6 maxed out)

[OPPAINTER]

I'm still working on the divider myth:D

OPP
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21355&stc=1

[OPPAINTER]

260Mhz 2-2-2-5 1T can be matched to ~ 290MHz 2.5-3-3-5 1T TCCD.

its about 30MHz.
Not in a 3Dmark 2001 bench in can't. 2.5-3-3-5 can't touch it.

OPP

[Playful_Buffalo]

quick question OPP, does the 4000+ handle more like an FX-53 or FX-55?

[charlie]

Looks like MSI has ANOTHER WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!

:toast:

C

[OPPAINTER]

quick question OPP, does the 4000+ handle more like an FX-53 or FX-55?
It runs like a FX-53, and this particular chip overclocks like a low level FX-53:D

OPP

[kakaroto]

Not in a 3Dmark 2001 bench in can't. 2.5-3-3-5 can't touch it.

OPP

I get 273x11 (BH5) 41.59sec pifast. With TCCD i get the same time at 300x10. (TCCD 2.5-3-3-6 maxed out)

Ok, CAS2 is faster in 3dmark01 indeed.

[OPPAINTER]

BAM! 330 right into windows, this getting fun:D

OPP
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21356&stc=1

[jinu117]

I've never run mem test in my life, no need. If my mem can run 2001 lobby tests I'm a happy camper.

As far as voltage, 3.65V idle, Sandra bench drops it to about 3.45V, 2001 lobby tests drop it around 3.52V.

OPP

With booster or cap mod? If cap mod, that seems rather larger drop than I am used to seeing. I guess you are running 3.3v around 3.75 or so for cap mod?

[OPPAINTER]

Might as well test the 133 divider while we're at it.

OPP
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21357&stc=1

[OPPAINTER]

With booster or cap mod? If cap mod, that seems rather larger drop than I am used to seeing. I guess you are running 3.3v around 3.75 or so for cap mod?
That was with booster.

OPP

[jinu117]

Hmmm now really starting to think I might have faulty booster. may have taken out 1 mobo behaving erratically on few VX.... Interesting.

[OPPAINTER]

Some 133 divider loven, this Neo4 is great board, it just doesn't to stop going:D

OPP
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21358&stc=1

[funkflix]

LDT = x ? :)

[DoGMaN]

370 HTT :slobber: Holy crap!!!

[OPPAINTER]

370 HTT :slobber: Holy crap!!!
Thats nothing bro, I think this Board has some major 400+ potential, I'm working on it.


GravediggA,
I'm useing 2.5 at the moment, I just put it there to be safe, it may not need to be that low.

OPP
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21360&stc=1

[funkflix]

Looks really good! Where is the Ram that can handle 400 MHz!? :D

[cantankerous]

Hey OPP,

do you know if the NF4 chipset has the same limitation on the SATA ports crapping out above 240fsb?

[OPPAINTER]

Hey OPP,

do you know if the NF4 chipset has the same limitation on the SATA ports crapping out above 240fsb?
I don't know about all of the ports but I'm useing a Raptor on the SATA1 port right now with no problems at 390, there are 8 ports on this bad boy:D

OPP

[NoX]

Alright then, that's menough, when this board hits the retail market I'll dump the P4 for an A64 and some voltage lovin OCZ (if still available). I want to experience this freaking HTT madness!! :brick:

[cantankerous]

hehe ok thanks OPP. I have 4 drives running in 2 seperate arrays and want to be sure I'm not going to be stuck because of this. On NF3 I could only use on array as the other would crap out at 240+. I hope I could run both arrays on the NF4 without an issue.

[Playful_Buffalo]

390HTT :slobber:

[charlie]

Amazing....
MSI has completely undone their 2003 reputation...

Next we'll see an NF4 Ulta-PCI-X

which will be NF4 with DDR2 and PCI Xpress....
Imagine OCZ DDR2-4200 running 350mHz, 1:1 @ 3-2-2-x with an x850xt plat

[OPPAINTER]

Amazing....
MSI has completely undone their 2003 reputation...

Next we'll see an NF4 Ulta-PCI-X

which will be NF4 with DDR and PCI Xpress....
Imagine OCZ DDR2 4200 running 350mHz, 1:1 @ 3-2-2-x with an x850xt plat
One downfall to this mobo. V-core is only 1.63V max. And from what I hear the controller only handles up to 1.65V.
Gunna have to wait and see what the v-mod experts come up with.

OPP

[Jhya]

390HTT :slobber:

I dont see what is the big deal with high HTT?? it's the FINAL hyper transport speed that matters for the overall performance of the system.

So with 390HTT, the LDT must either be 3x or 2x. With an LDT of 3, 3x390= 1170MHz, it is very unlikely since it's way above nvidia spec'd 1000MHz. So you most likely will use your LDT at 2X for 2x390HTT = 780 MHz final hyper transport speed, which is not a big accomplishment overall.

For memory overclock with 390HTT, you most likely will not be running your RAMs sync'd. (I have not seen anyone with 390MHz in memory overclock posted). So, the only ram options are to use 166 or 133 settings in the BIOS. With a 166 setting your memory speed would be 324 MHz (390HTT*166/200). Even that is highly unlikely, unless you go with the gskill 4800 sticks which only comes in 256 flavors for 2x256=512MB max).

So the most logical choice would be 133 memory setting in BIOS which is 390HTT*133/200 = 260MHz memory speed. I have seen people with much higher memory speeds than that!

So basically, running 390HTT is no big deal and is not such an impressive accomplishment in overclocking. It just sounds impressive on paper.

[viccyran]

I dont see what is the big deal with high HTT?? it's the FINAL hyper transport speed that matters for the overall performance of the system.

So with 390HTT, the LDT must either be 3x or 2x. With an LDT of 3, 3x390= 1170MHz, it is very unlikely since it's way above nvidia spec'd 1000MHz. So you most likely will use your LDT at 2X for 2x390HTT = 780 MHz, which is not a big accomplishment overall.

For memory overclock with 390HTT, you most likely will not be running your RAMs sync'd. (I have not seen anyone with 390MHz in memory overclock posted). So, the only ram options are to use 166 or 133 settings in the BIOS. With a 166 setting your memory speed would be 324 MHz (390HTT*166/200). Even that is highly unlikely, unless you go with the gskill 4800 sticks which only comes in 256 flavors for 2x256=512MB max).

So the most logical choice would be 133 memory setting in BIOS which is 390HTT*133/200 = 260MHz memory speed. I have seen people with much higher memory speeds than that!

So basically, running 390HTT is no big deal and is not such an impressive accomplishment in overclocking. It just sounds impressive on paper.
HTT isn't that important for A64, if you look at the benchmarks. The only reason high HTT is nice is because it gives people more options on how to run their chip at it's best :)

[mcnbns]

In addition, high HTT screens just look sweet. :slobber:

[bachus_anonym]

basically, ability to achieve high HTT is for those people that are "multi-locked" (non FX owners)...
say you have e.g. 3200+ Winnie that's doing 2.8GHz. to get there at stock multi (x9) you need to run it at 311HTT... that's where high HTT is important....
even better, if you have 2.9Ghz Winnie 3200+ you need 322HTT... and so on...

[Revv23]

that an sli board opp?

[esdee]

LDT = x ? :)

my guess is 3 but i would love to be wrong :D

/edit : when did you all answer!!?!?! :confused:

[Playful_Buffalo]

In addition, high HTT screens just look sweet. :slobber:
werd

[aCidbAbY]

"Best Memory made since BH5"

so still not as good as BH5 :D

why is everyone defending bh-5? :rolleyes:
how often do you get 1gb dual kits of bh-5 thatll do 266mhz im @ 258 2-2-2-10 1T on my 754 :toast: 260 was my best but it didnt last long.
this stuff is awesome.

[Zeus]

...awaiting Oppainter's 400+ HTT screeny... :D

[racoontje]

If HTT isn't that important, what is?

[Tek]

If HTT isn't that important, what is?

The actual RAM speed itself and certain timings :)

[OPPAINTER]

...awaiting Oppainter's 400+ HTT screeny... :D
I never got one, tryed 400 and it wouldn't boot.

OPP

[jinu117]

Guessing MSI comes with CoreCell utility? Asus right now feels a little barren and I have to test with ntune ATM. Where is the darned clockgen?
Have you tested TCCD with it?

[OPPAINTER]

Guessing MSI comes with CoreCell utility? Asus right now feels a little barren and I have to test with ntune ATM. Where is the darned clockgen?
Have you tested TCCD with it?
I havn't used any utility, the board I got never came with a CD, no drivers, nothing:D

OPB tested TCCD on one of these boards.
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48594

OPP

[dutchman.pt]

I havn't used any utility, the board I got never came with a CD, no drivers, nothing:D


Poor boy...poor boy...:D:D:D

Btw, nice board and HTT you got there.
Let's wait and see if the boards that will hit the market are so good or even better than that(/dream off...). :)

[OPPAINTER]

Poor boy...poor boy...:D:D:D

Btw, nice board and HTT you got there.
Let's wait and see if the boards that will hit the market are so good or even better than that(/dream off...). :)
They better be better:D This board won't cut it, lack of V-core will be it's demise.

OPP

[Jhya]

If HTT isn't that important, what is?

HTT doesnt mean anything. It's the final hyper transport speed that you get from HTT that's important. So, for HTT of 390 if you go with LDT of 2x then the final hypertransport speed is 2X390 = 780MHz.

The most important factor that affects system performance on an Athlon64 system is the MEMORY speed / MEMORY latency timings and FINAL CPU speed in MHz. To a lesser degree, the FINAL hyper transport frequency, but benchmarks have shown that there is very little difference between various hyper transport frequencies.

[bachus_anonym]

If HTT isn't that important, what is?
board's ability to hit very high HTT is needed only in one case:
say you have Winchester 3000+ which has default multi of x9.... if you have a feeling that your CPU will hit 2.7GHz then you would need 300HTT for it. but supposedly, you got phase change cooling and then thought that your Winnie could hit 3GHz... if your board can't achieve 333HTT then you're out of luck for that 3GHz.
apart from that, very high HTT just looks cool on screenshots but gives pretty much nothing in performance compartment.
what's important? CPU speed, actual DDR frequency and timmings.

[jinu117]

board's ability to hit very high HTT is needed only in one case:
say you have Winchester 3000+ which has default multi of x9.... if you have a feeling that your CPU will hit 2.7GHz then you would need 300HTT for it. but supposedly, you got phase change cooling and then thought that your Winnie could hit 3GHz... if your board can't achieve 333HTT then you're out of luck for that 3GHz.
apart from that, very high HTT just looks cool on screenshots but gives pretty much nothing in performance compartment.
what's important? CPU speed, actual DDR frequency and timmings.

or default 11x multi with people trying to go over 3ghz... that already went past what lot of memoy can do 1:1. 11x multi aren't quite the CPU I would call cheap yet.
Now that aside, glad it is working on NF4 boards.

[trans am]

ok, i owe an appology to everyone. my VX is doing much better on the DFI LP 754. Big thanks to acidbaby for telling me to set drive strength to auto LOL.
Settings on DFI:
drive strength auto
vcore: 1.425x123%
chipset voltage: 1.8v
AGP voltage: 1.7v
Vdimm: 3.41
2-2-2-10 1t command
all other mem setting on auto
heatspreaders are off with 90mm fan blowing directly over the ram
voltage for vdimm is done on modded dfi bios with the 3.3 pot turned up to 3.6v on the ocz PS 520w

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21400

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21401

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21402


HAPPY HOLIDAYS FROM TRANS AM :) :toast:

just for the record, this is the best memory I ever had!

[jinu117]

Woot! That's good. Too bad my A8N SLI doesn't have way to lock LDT multi for some strange reason...???? Works on ntune though...
Will play bit more to figure out but friggin ntune tops @ 250FSB. Where is the clockgen? :P On dos though I was able to test pair of bh-5 to 250mhz fine so I guess I will test my VXs all again. (3.36 memtest, 3.45 idle actual vdimm) I already modded the board for cap mod :)

[conrad.maranan]

DFI 754 owns! Like I said, I ran as high as 269MHz error-free on the same board. The next time I'm at my sister-in-law's place, I'm going to test higher.

Good job, Alvin! And Happy Holidays to everyone here at XS! :D

[Zeus]

Appologies accepted Trams Am, lol! :D
Still, 33 seconds on SuperPi 1m isn't that great for a ClawHammer at 10x264 with those timings.
I did 33sec at 10x255 with my old Claw at 2-2-2-5.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21410&stc=1

10x264 should show 32 seconds i think.

Nice to hear the RAM works well for you at least. ;)

[mikead_99]

Appologies accepted Trams Am, lol! :D
Still, 33 seconds on SuperPi 1m isn't that great for a ClawHammer at 10x264 with those timings.
I did 33sec at 10x255 with my old Claw at 2-2-2-5.

10x264 should show 32 seconds i think.

Nice to hear the RAM works well for you at least. ;)

He just needs to get in and use that A64 Tweaker now, or the DFI bios. Those timings displayed in his post aren't nearly as impressive as the clocks he's getting from the sticks. I understand that he is still just checking max mem clocks now though, all Auto, not optimised. That'd get him the missing second I bet.

[andyOCZ]

just for the record, this is the best memory I ever had!

:D Glad you are happy!

[Joe Camel]

http://img76.exs.cx/img76/146/29156sy.jpg



ya, id say i was happy with my VX too!! :toast:
(this is with a stock clocked x800xt-pe)

http://img152.exs.cx/img152/8118/266x1113hp959cd.jpg

this PI was @ 265x11

http://img152.exs.cx/img152/9089/28secpi8bi.jpg

all this with AIR cooling (and 2C outside air :rolleyes: )

[trans am]

He just needs to get in and use that A64 Tweaker now, or the DFI bios. Those timings displayed in his post aren't nearly as impressive as the clocks he's getting from the sticks. I understand that he is still just checking max mem clocks now though, all Auto, not optimised. That'd get him the missing second I bet.

you are right on mikead! I just got my highest stable clocks! I was so excited to post, I just wanted to get the screens on here as fast as I could before leaving to CT, for Xmas eve. When I get back, I plan to get a better time using a64 tweaker. Hopefully these will run this nice in dual channel, but from what I see, the vx may not go as high once I take them off the single channel dfi board.

[Jhya]

I know this is unrelated to the topic, but does any one know why the fonts on my Super PI screen is different than everyone else's? How do I change the font back?

http://home.comcast.net/~jiahwa/Super_PI.JPG

[cupra]

i read all the tread, and i decide to buy the vx with a booster

xv and fx is a "wow" combination :P

[Blue078]

So are any of you guys 24/7 HL2 allnight stable with this mem @ 250 to 260 2-2-2-5 ??????

Or is it just great for a benchmark tool, kinda memory ?

Thanks

[trans am]

So are any of you guys 24/7 HL2 allnight stable with this mem @ 250 to 260 2-2-2-5 ??????

Or is it just great for a benchmark tool, kinda memory ?

Thanks

I won't bother posting if it's not 3d game stable.

[Blue078]

Then I musta gotten 2 sets of bad sticks. I can not get any of them stable in Half Life2 or UT 2004 a dime over 237Mhz for any extended period of time... have ran benchies at up to 265. But game stable....far from it, unless 5 mins and a crash is stable :)

Tryed em in Asus P4C800 vmoded and with out vmod and booster/ Neo 2 Plat with booster / IS7 with booster / DFI UT 250 GB with and with out Booster.
One stick at a time and in dual channel.

PSU = OCZ 520
120mm Fan blowing down on the mem
Neo Plat is cooled by MachII GT, the rest are water cooled rigs.

[I_Am_ToO_SeXy]

Then I musta gotten 2 sets of bad sticks. I can not get any of them stable in Half Life2 or UT 2004 a dime over 237Mhz for any extended period of time... have ran benchies at up to 265. But game stable....far from it, unless 5 mins and a crash is stable :)

Tryed em in Asus P4C800 vmoded and with out vmod and booster/ Neo 2 Plat with booster / IS7 with booster / DFI UT 250 GB with and with out Booster.
One stick at a time and in dual channel.

PSU = OCZ 520
120mm Fan blowing down on the mem
Neo Plat is cooled by MachII GT, the rest are water cooled rigs.

Can u post your results on P4C800 plz?

[xgman]

Woot! That's good. Too bad my A8N SLI doesn't have way to lock LDT multi for some strange reason...????

There is a beta bios that fixes that floating around.

[xgman]

It appears that results from VX are all over the place.

[Ulti]

Question:

OCZ pc3200 el rev2 (that I have now) or OCZ VX? Since the price is kinda the same I really can't choose. It's for a Winnie 3200+ btw.

[Nazaar]

how does VX perform on nf2 chipsets ??

[Blue078]

Question:

OCZ pc3200 el rev2 (that I have now) or OCZ VX? Since the price is kinda the same I really can't choose. It's for a Winnie 3200+ btw.

If you want good OC + stability 3200el r2 is the best bet. I realy think the VX is just for the benchmark sport

[FallenAngel]

Then I musta gotten 2 sets of bad sticks. I can not get any of them stable in Half Life2 or UT 2004 a dime over 237Mhz for any extended period of time... have ran benchies at up to 265. But game stable....far from it, unless 5 mins and a crash is stable :)

Tryed em in Asus P4C800 vmoded and with out vmod and booster/ Neo 2 Plat with booster / IS7 with booster / DFI UT 250 GB with and with out Booster.
One stick at a time and in dual channel.

PSU = OCZ 520
120mm Fan blowing down on the mem
Neo Plat is cooled by MachII GT, the rest are water cooled rigs.
If I'm not mistaken these ram aren't quite good in Intel as they are in AMD, I got the same board and I'm using OCZ3700 rev2 and they simply rock in my platform and I saw some reviews in AMD and they didn't rocked, so as I said if i'm not mistaken in this thread or another about this awsome VX ram it's stated that they don't do well in Intel platforms.

oh, btw OCZ is really HEAVY METAL, it rock's everything I'm really pleased with their products my next PSU will be OCZ and my next ram again OCZ, I'm waiting 'bhk2' DDR booster and then I will be even more happy

[cantankerous]

how does VX perform on nf2 chipsets ??

Not very good. They can memtest pretty high but running your computer off them is not a good idea. The chipset can't handle what these chips can do and major instability will occur. I am running these sticks on my NF2 and won't put it much over 206+ as after that blue screens, reboots and crashes occur very often. These really are fine tuned for a64 only with an expception of intel not running as good as a64 but much better than nf2.

[trans am]

oh, btw OCZ is really HEAVY METAL, it rock's everything I'm really pleased with their products my next PSU will be OCZ and my next ram again OCZ, I'm waiting 'bhk2' DDR booster and then I will be even more happy

I got new Maximum PC issue last night. They had lackluster performance on the powerstream in a power supply shootout. I can't believe this. I think the ocz PS 520w is the cats pajamas! That antec psu can't be that good. no pots? we need pots!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21616&stc=1

[DudeMiester]

A number of magazines are paid by manufacturers to promote a particular product. I don't know about this one, but that could the issue here.

[ryanpgroovy]

they ticked the review becuase the us version does not have Active PFC , about half there tests are just testing how the active PFC works.

We also got ticked becuase the voltages were not exactly on the mark ( 12.27 starting voltage I beleive ) , which is due to the adjustable rails , odd they would complain about something they can adjust .


I am sure if it had PFC we would have won the Editors choice

[dutchman.pt]

they ticked the review becuase the us version does not have Active PFC , about half there tests are just testing how the active PFC works.

We also got ticked becuase the voltages were not exactly on the mark ( 12.27 starting voltage I beleive ) , which is due to the adjustable rails , odd they would complain about something they can adjust .


I am sure if it had PFC we would have won the Editors choice

Why doesn't the US version have Active PFC?

[IvanAndreevich]

Why doesn't the US version have Active PFC?

Putting 480W Antec above any OCZ PowerStream is retarded for sure. Why read that stupid magazine - their reviewers probably didn't know what adjustable pots were. Maybe they thought it was some sort of holiday decoration.

[ryanpgroovy]

Well in the US the wall voltage tends to be stable enough that active PFC is not required. We figured keeping the cost low or adding a feature that really has little benefit in the us , the best idea would be to keep the cost low.

[aCidbAbY]

yeah i was thinking the same thing about this reveiw when i got this isssue i think they are totally wrong:(

[DevilsRejection]

most of us on this forum probably have some sort of UPS which at the same time regulates voltage.

[LenniZ]

can i use VX + booster on my IS7-E ? :confused:

[trans am]

I think xs needs to put out a monthly magazine. overclocking and case mods/ and cooling and no bs! That mag would fvcking rule!

[ZeroSanity]

I'll probably be getting 1gig of VX, i don't think this BH-5 i have will do verry well with my new a64 rig in DC. :(

Hopefully my DDR booster will help.

[enzoR]

Well in the US the wall voltage tends to be stable enough that active PFC is not required. We figured keeping the cost low or adding a feature that really has little benefit in the us , the best idea would be to keep the cost low.

i thought active PFC also leads to better efficiency? :confused:

[Alexandrus]

Nope, it's the opossite.

[varzmaster]

On one hand it generates a little more heat (which results in lower efficiency) but it does stabilize the input voltage and helps keep our environment a little bit more frindly. :)

It's kind of a compromise. Nothing to brag about if your outlet voltage is stable enough.

[Alexandrus]

Not quite, just corrects the Power factor, it's as easy as that.

[varzmaster]

Well... at least I can see the resemblance between correcting the PF and "keeping our environment friendly". :)

But enough OT: I want VX! :D

[Alexandrus]

Maybe you do not know what PF is ;)

PS. In January maybe I can sell some VX to you ;)

[andyOCZ]

Why doesn't the US version have Active PFC?

Putting 480W Antec above any OCZ PowerStream is retarded for sure. Why read that stupid magazine - their reviewers probably didn't know what adjustable pots were. Maybe they thought it was some sort of holiday decoration.

Not to start a conspiracy theory, but the testing methods were designed to knock any non PFC PSU right out of the top spot. Makes you wonder how many of us expect to see 60 volts from a US wall socket. Hmmmmm.

They totally glossed over our adjustable rails, giving it hardly a mention and then bit**ed because they saw 12.27 volts or so on the 12v line! Hehe, that sounds awsome to all of us here at XS, no? They could have adjusted it to 12v exactly.

Oh well.

[Torin]

Yeah, a stupid review anyways. If you can't appreciate the value of having rails that don't dip under their normal voltage, it makes you wonder why you're doing a PSU review anyways.

[Playful_Buffalo]

sometimes the abysmally stupid things Maxpc editors do leaves me quite irritated....being reviewers they must know something about tweaking and general performance, after all ~ they taught me how to OC

the fact that they blew off the adjustable pots is suspicious...but everyone here at XS knows who the real champion was ;)

[andyOCZ]

sometimes the abysmally stupid things Maxpc editors do leaves me quite irritated....being reviewers they must know something about tweaking and general performance, after all ~ they taught me how to OC

the fact that they blew off the adjustable pots is suspicious...but everyone here at XS knows who the real champion was ;)

TA DA!!!

:)

[fareastgq]

Hehe, that sounds awsome to all of us here at XS, no?
Oh well.

hehe, that's exactly what I was thinking.

[trans am]

maximum pc is all about what's trendy....Modular psu's. If the powerstream was modular it would've had a 8 lol. And who was that stupid idiot at ocz that turned the 12v pot up to 12.27? was that you Andy? lol. The fact is, we have put our powerstreams through hell and back. I've turned every pot up to it's max and I can't get it to pop. That alone should make it editors choice! :toast: If it makes you feel better OCZ, I give it a
-12 out of 10
- editors choice
-best power supply from a ram company

And if you really want to go there, This is OCZ's first attempt at a PSU. And the fact is, it's better than most psu's from power supply companies that have had years of experience. I look at it like getting beaten up in your own front yard. :CTF:

[muzz]

pidmaximum pc is all about what's trendy....
I look at it like getting beaten up in your own front yard. :CTF:

DOH!!

I hope it wasn't when you were trying to pickup a new GF, when ya were like 12... :bananal: :dammit:

That'd be embarrassing to the point that much drinking may follow for years to come!!
:toast:

[mcnbns]

maximum pc is all about what's giving them money

And if you really want to go there, This is OCZ's first attempt at a PSU. And the fact is, it's better than most psu's from power supply companies that have had years of experience. I look at it like getting beaten up in your own front yard (and then getting raped by a pack of wild boars).

(I added the stuff in bold, for effect.) teh l33t OCZ pwnz j00, bizatch!

I never have liked Maximum PC. Their name is very misleading.

VX? Where?

[trans am]

DOH!!

I hope it wasn't when you were trying to pickup a new GF, when ya were like 12... :bananal: :dammit:

That'd be embarrassing to the point that much drinking may follow for years to come!!
:toast:

Actually it was a quote from a magazine about some professional skateboarder who was kicked off his team and went to a different team and got first place in a Vert contest he was in. he was up against some of the skateboarders on his old team, and the magazine was implying that it was like getting beaten up in your own front yard. Whoa now I'm really off topic. lol Damn that VX is really good stuff. It's actually running higher than my current cpu can keep up with. If I lower the multi, I'm going to lose too much cpu performance, so I need to keep it in the sweet spot for now. I bet if I burned it in a little more I could get up to 265-268.

[SPQQKY]

Back on topic, where can I find some OCZ VX? I can't find it anywhere.

[trans am]

Back on topic, where can I find some OCZ VX? I can't find it anywhere.
mwave

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/DeepSearch.hmx?scriteria=vx&Dname=Memory%20-%20OCZ&Pname=OCZ%20ENHANCES%20LATENCY%20DDR%20DIMM%20(184 %20PINS)&DID=MR-OCZ&PID=MEM-OCZ2100

[jinu117]

Quick question... did anyone did compatibility test with Asus A8N SLI on this? I seem to have extremely hard time going over 250FSB 1:1 with VX or OCZ EL REV2 when BH-5 flies through that "barrier" fine. VX has no problem going over 260 dual channel on K8N Neo2 now and EL Rev2 going over 280mhz on K8N Neo2 no problem either.
It also seems to me VX and divider issue exist on A8N SLI. (BH-5 tested well up to 310FSB 5:4 setting atm).

[mrlobber]

Back on topic, where can I find some OCZ VX? I can't find it anywhere.

ExcaliberPC has them as well. Just ordered one kit in anticipation of the arriving of Socket939 in my house :banana:

[googles]

pleading for help/advise....

my system is currently only running:
intel 2.8c-stock cooling
1 SATA hdd + floppy
radeon 9600xt
vx + booster
3 80mm case fans

all powered by generic 450W psu~ 3.3V@28A, 5V@40A, 12V@20A

the results ive gotten so far with the vx are kinda demoralizing...

ive only been using 3.2V via booster but often i see the display skip between 3.1,3.2 & 3.3v

RESULTS - all @ 1:1 divider

200fsb @ 2.2.2.5, ok-works fine

206fsb @ 2.2.2.5 ,not ok, memtest, test 4 produces 10000+ errors @ 2mins+

240 & 235fsb @ 2.5.3.3.8, boots into windows ok but i constantly get "an error has occured with either IE, Sygate Firewall, MSN messenger and needs to be closed"

250fsb @ 3.3.3.8, wont boot...sigh

would really appreciate some advise. could it be my lowly psu? ive unplugged my 2 optical drives and other hdd to ensure sufficient power is available and am running my pc at a bare minimum.

i have been running my pc stable at 250fsb with 2x512 value rams set at 5/4 divider (2.5.3.3.8)...was really hoping for more with the vx...what could be wrong?

[choseone214]

A few questions.

1:What IC's are being used?
2:Are the quality now as good as the first sticks that shipped?

Seems alot of the original buyers have the best results over alot of forums I've visited.

[cantankerous]

Yes I was wondering about the yields of these newer batches compared to the original batches as well.

[andyOCZ]

A few questions.

1:What IC's are being used?
2:Are the quality now as good as the first sticks that shipped?

Seems alot of the original buyers have the best results over alot of forums I've visited.

1: OCZ IC's ;)
2: The quality is just as good now as earlier.

The guys here were the first and they know and they are Xtreme, so that may explain why they do better.

[trans am]

1: OCZ IC's ;)
2: The quality is just as good now as earlier.

The guys here were the first and they know and they are Xtreme, so that may explain why they do better.

lol I need a bumper sticker that says "xs members do it better"

[conrad.maranan]

If you get that sticker made, get one for me, too. I'll pay you for your troubles. :D

By the way, VX rules...just in case it hasn't been mentioned enough. ;)

[bacon]

pleading for help/advise....

my system is currently only running:
intel 2.8c-stock cooling
1 SATA hdd + floppy
radeon 9600xt
vx + booster
3 80mm case fans

all powered by generic 450W psu~ 3.3V@28A, 5V@40A, 12V@20A

the results ive gotten so far with the vx are kinda demoralizing...

ive only been using 3.2V via booster but often i see the display skip between 3.1,3.2 & 3.3v

RESULTS - all @ 1:1 divider

200fsb @ 2.2.2.5, ok-works fine

206fsb @ 2.2.2.5 ,not ok, memtest, test 4 produces 10000+ errors @ 2mins+

240 & 235fsb @ 2.5.3.3.8, boots into windows ok but i constantly get "an error has occured with either IE, Sygate Firewall, MSN messenger and needs to be closed"

250fsb @ 3.3.3.8, wont boot...sigh

would really appreciate some advise. could it be my lowly psu? ive unplugged my 2 optical drives and other hdd to ensure sufficient power is available and am running my pc at a bare minimum.

i have been running my pc stable at 250fsb with 2x512 value rams set at 5/4 divider (2.5.3.3.8)...was really hoping for more with the vx...what could be wrong?


defo psu trouble as your using a generic mate.....OCZ test these to 240 with 3.2v so IMO its your psu

get a quality unit like an antec or OCZ

[STEvil]

Its a P4 platform, gonna be hard to get them to run quick on it.

[googles]

defo psu trouble as your using a generic mate.....OCZ test these to 240 with 3.2v so IMO its your psu

get a quality unit like an antec or OCZ


thx dude. ill try to pick one up soon. hope it gives me a little more. i knw it works better on amd but im waiting for msi/dfi nforce4 mobos to go retail before crossing over to amd.

[DevilsRejection]

i highly recommnd the msi board.

[avicenna]

maximum pc is all about what's trendy....Modular psu's. If the powerstream was modular it would've had a 8 lol. And who was that stupid idiot at ocz that turned the 12v pot up to 12.27? was that you Andy? lol. The fact is, we have put our powerstreams through hell and back. I've turned every pot up to it's max and I can't get it to pop. That alone should make it editors choice! :toast: If it makes you feel better OCZ, I give it a
-12 out of 10
- editors choice
-best power supply from a ram company

And if you really want to go there, This is OCZ's first attempt at a PSU. And the fact is, it's better than most psu's from power supply companies that have had years of experience. I look at it like getting beaten up in your own front yard. :CTF:

Just FYI OCZ did neither build or design this PSU, it´s built and designed by Topower and OCZ just has their own sticker put on it.
Theese things happens all the time in the world of PSUs and computerparts in general.

[Nazaar]

Just FYI OCZ did neither build or design this PSU, it´s built and designed by Topower and OCZ just has their own sticker put on it.
Theese things happens all the time in the world of PSUs and computerparts in general.
who cares, the powerstream PSU's are the best for extreme oc'ers (as far as i am concerned) ;)

[avicenna]

who cares, the powerstream PSU's are the best for extreme oc'ers (as far as i am concerned) ;)
Well if they are best or not can surely be debated.
OCZ520 are great as long as they work, i am not yet convinced the build quality and lastabilty is as good as with Fortron PSUs for instance.

[Blue078]

Great Place to talk PSU's....in a thread about memory ????

[andyOCZ]

Well if they are best or not can surely be debated.
OCZ520 are great as long as they work, i am not yet convinced the build quality and lastabilty is as good as with Fortron PSUs for instance.

Just so you can rest easy, the Powerstream PSU has an extremely low failure rate. We have sold a ridiculous ammount of these and are maintaining better than industry standard quality. We would like a zero defect product, but given the nature of a PSU this is just not possible at this time. All PSU's have a failure rate. I have bought other major brands that were DOA or popped in the night. I just exchanged them or waited 2+ weeks for an RMA.

Since we have a large install base, escpecially here on XS, you hear about some failures. Also the guys that buy our PSU's are torturing the hell out of them . :)

If you have a failure, NO company will RMA you faster. We take pride in this and offer this as proof that we are not flooded with RMA units.

As far as stabilty, ask OPPaiinter or Fugger how there units are when hitting ludicrous speeds. They don't use Fortron.

Have a happy and safe new year. :banana4:

[trans am]

Just FYI OCZ did neither build or design this PSU, it´s built and designed by Topower and OCZ just has their own sticker put on it.
Theese things happens all the time in the world of PSUs and computerparts in general.

Yes, this is no mystery, but show me a Topower you can buy off the shelf that is identical. OCZ must have had some thing to do with it's design?


Damn that VX memory is awesome!

[avicenna]

andyOCZ
WEll they are good PSUs or more then good perhaps even, i might had bought one myself if they whould have been around here where i live when i bought a new PSU this summer.
As for OPPainter and Fugger not using fortron or any other brand, no they use OCZ520 and how come.
Maybe they got them for free? :p: You guys hang around here and know how good publicity it is to have theese guys using your products :D
I don´t know i am just speculating ofcourse, whouldn´t suprise me though, you guys are not stupid and neither am i.

trans am
Well take a look at this ;)
http://www.dansdata.com/top686p6.htm

Look familiar? :p:

I am more impressed with theese newer OCZ-RAMs than the PSUs, just my 2..

[Nube]

any of these in UK.......

[STEvil]

avicenna - I gotta say thats one of the more entertaining PSU reviews i've read.. guy mentions line restrictions too, among other things.. very good review actually heh.

EDIT

TOP-600P5 looks interesting... http://www.topower.com.tw/home/power_supply_atx12v.htm

[andyOCZ]

andyOCZ
WEll they are good PSUs or more then good perhaps even, i might had bought one myself if they whould have been around here where i live when i bought a new PSU this summer.
As for OPPainter and Fugger not using fortron or any other brand, no they use OCZ520 and how come.
Maybe they got them for free? :p: You guys hang around here and know how good publicity it is to have theese guys using your products :D
I don´t know i am just speculating ofcourse, whouldn´t suprise me though, you guys are not stupid and neither am i.

trans am
Well take a look at this ;)
http://www.dansdata.com/top686p6.htm

Look familiar? :p:

I am more impressed with theese newer OCZ-RAMs than the PSUs, just my 2..

That sure does look familiar. :)

They like our design we came up with so much they are selling one it appears. I guess we could call that a form of flattery. I was involved in specing our PSUs, so I know who came first. :) No one else can offer our warranty and RMA service though.

As far as giving away PSUs to some of the worlds top overclockers, why not? Yes it's good advertisment but rest assured they get given crap that they never use at all, so again we are flattered by the records they set with our gear. We are running a successful business and are not out to fool anyone. The stuff these guys get comes off the same line as what you buy. This alone would make me feel better about my purchase. It sure made us feel better about selling them to you.

Anyway, have a good Holiday and a Happy New Year!! :banana4:

[Blue078]

That sure does look familiar. :)

They like our design we came up with so much they are selling one it appears. I guess we could call that a form of flattery. I was involved in specing our PSUs, so I know who came first. :) No one else can offer our warranty and RMA service though.

As far as giving away PSUs to some of the worlds top overclockers, why not? Yes it's good advertisment but rest assured they get given crap that they never use at all, so again we are flattered by the records they set with our gear. We are running a successful business and are not out to fool anyone. The stuff these guys get comes off the same line as what you buy. This alone would make me feel better about my purchase. It sure made us feel better about selling them to you.

Anyway, have a good Holiday and a Happy New Year!! :banana4:


Since were talking PSU's in memory thread, let me ask a PSU question :)
So your so flattered your not gona sue them for coppying your PSU ???

[avicenna]

That sure does look familiar. :)

They like our design we came up with so much they are selling one it appears. I guess we could call that a form of flattery. I was involved in specing our PSUs, so I know who came first. :) No one else can offer our warranty and RMA service though.

As far as giving away PSUs to some of the worlds top overclockers, why not? Yes it's good advertisment but rest assured they get given crap that they never use at all, so again we are flattered by the records they set with our gear. We are running a successful business and are not out to fool anyone. The stuff these guys get comes off the same line as what you buy. This alone would make me feel better about my purchase. It sure made us feel better about selling them to you.

Anyway, have a good Holiday and a Happy New Year!! :banana4:

First of all i am glad we can have an open discussion like this.

As far as giving away PSUs to the worlds top overclockers, that whould be one the first things i whould do myself. You can´t get any better advertisement than that, it´s like hitting the jackpot or finding a veritable gold mine.

Everybody will want to have one when they see that OPP, fugger, Macci and the likes use it. Can´t get any better than that and all for peanuts money.
Give away a couple of PSUs and RAM-modules and make big bucks out if it, wonder if OPP and Fugger ever thought about the fact that it´s you who are the winners in this deal;)
Ofcourse the product whould have to be good enough so i whould and i assume you did compare and test the PSU against some other competitors before official launch, otherwise the whole deal whould have backfired if the product was not up to par.

Now to the more important issue, you are claiming that OCZ infact designed that PSU and you speced it.
(Whistles in amazement!)

Before i go any further can you please explain exactly what you mean by designed?
Designed the whole PSU and it´s components from scratch, or more like chose the colour of the PSU and the ledfan?

Have a happy and succesfull new year! :)

PS: Sorry for turning this into a psu thread.

[avicenna]

avicenna - I gotta say thats one of the more entertaining PSU reviews i've read.. guy mentions line restrictions too, among other things.. very good review actually heh.

EDIT

TOP-600P5 looks interesting... http://www.topower.com.tw/home/power_supply_atx12v.htm

Yes he has a unusual and entertaining way of writing his reviews. :)

[andyOCZ]

Guys, this is a memory thread. :)

The OCZ engineering department worked hard on the PSU design. We came up with the 3 adjustable rail idea, specified the quality of parts and all. Beyond that I can't say abiut who is selling what. I doubt you will see that for sale in the US. We might call the lawyers if that happens.

Back to VX! ;)

[Revv23]

some damn good stuff indeed, too bad t doesnt scale higher with more volts.

[graham_h]

back to memory. Enlighten me again why tight timings are so important. I'm currenty using an o/c 2.8ghz to 3.8ghz P4 setup running slack timings for high FSB.
So for high FSB and the performance boost why doesn't the same apply ?
My Geil Ultra plat ddr500 would be crap on a 64 setup ? i.e it wasn't designed for tight timings ?
I'm confused..!! :confused:
Oh one more thing. if the VX is 'the best' why is it 'gold' rather than 'platinum' ?What I'm getting at is there any better ram for a 64 setup ?

[Revv23]

TCCD is the platnum, because it will run DDR 2-2-2-5 at extremly low volts.


raw speed will beat out timings but it may take something like another 25mhz of speed to make 2.5-3-3-7 to run equal with 2-2-2-5, depending on your setup of course.

[STEvil]

Its a balance.. the best chips out there are still BH but they arent easy to find all the time.. :D

What you need to know really is if you want 24/7 or benchmarks.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=654635#post654635

[Playful_Buffalo]

would latency help in anything other then benchmarks?

looks like theres a dedicated memory section now :) "xtreme bandwidth"

[STEvil]

Of course it would. Compiling, rendering, gaming, etc... can be anything that is memory intensive.

EDIT

Yeah, thought I clicked on the overclocking forum and there was only about 14 topics... was confused lol :confused: :stick: :D :D

[krampak]

Some 133 divider loven, this Neo4 is great board, it just doesn't to stop going:D

OPP
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21358&stc=1


That's so curious.. i've just tried to set a 133 divider on my Neo 2 and voilá... it likes it :)

http://genetics.intercomgi.com/krampak/PC/360.JPG

Any mod there. Will try harder later.
My crappy TCCD don't do 230 2-2-2.. need some VX or BH5 there.

[jikdoc]

quick question on psu, sorry off topic.

does having a nonPFC psu even matter if you're using an UPS with line filtering?

[enzoR]

no it doesnt :)

[krampak]

Hey guys, do you think this bandwidth could be real?

8551MB/s on a 2.8E @ 260x14 3-4-4 (http://www.miststuck.com/anchobandadc.PNG)

[enzoR]

no way that possible

[cupra]

i gat my vx and they stable in 270mhz at 2-2-2-5 3.7v and not stable at 275mhz with the same timing

3.7v it to much for the vx :confused:

[LilGator]

that looks like 270 3-4-4-7 ?

[cupra]

that looks like 270 3-4-4-7 ?
omg my mistake (3-4-4-7 = my old corsair)

hare you go 270 and 265 2-2-2-5, the 3.7 can do some problem?

[andyOCZ]

omg my mistake (3-4-4-7 = my old corsair)

hare you go 270 and 265 2-2-2-5, the 3.7 can do some problem?

Be careful that you are cooling the modules VERY WELL at 3.7v. Put a strong fan blowing right on them. Heat will kill RAM. Only use as much voltage as necessary. Just adding more voltage is not good. We only warranty the VX to 3.5v.

Understand that OPP uses extreme cooling methods for his overclocks. This is the key to hittting those speeds.

[bachus_anonym]

i have a question for all those having their VX in 250-260 range on Neo2....

when you're testing for stability, are you having any problems in keeping this RAM error-free in memtest for more that 1 hour or not being able to "primie" at all even though games and SuperPI 32M are OK?
my first set was doing DDR512 memtest 9hrs and Prime95 no probs.... my current set gives me errors at above 1hr even at DDR400 and oddly enough i can't even Prime if i don't set max mem to ~800MB (i know, prime95 and 1GB = problems u say) even though i could do it with my first set, not to mention 2x256MB BH-5....

i need your input, please ;)

[conrad.maranan]

I've got no problems with mine. Click the link in my sig and notice I can run 12 hours of Prime without incident. The key is keeping the memory and Booster nice and cool. ;)

[bachus_anonym]

I've got no problems with mine. Click the link in my sig and notice I can run 12 hours of Prime without incident. The key is keeping the memory and Booster nice and cool. ;)
damn Conrad, when i first saw what your mems were doing a while ago i was impressed....
yeah, i know.... my mems and Booster are cool enough.... i'm just dissapointed and ATM thinking about getting some TCCD that hopefully does DDR590-600.... sorry :(

[conrad.maranan]

I'm actually running a little bit higher than 263MHz now. This stuff has gotten better over time. I'm just saving the ooohs and aaahs for my next rig. :D

After seeing what the new G.Skill kits can do, I'm tempted to purchase a set. I had pretty good results with my 2x256MB kit when they first dropped, so I might consider playing with G.Skill TCCD in the 2x512MB variety one of these days.

[andyOCZ]

i have a question for all those having their VX in 250-260 range on Neo2....

when you're testing for stability, are you having any problems in keeping this RAM error-free in memtest for more that 1 hour or not being able to "primie" at all even though games and SuperPI 32M are OK?
my first set was doing DDR512 memtest 9hrs and Prime95 no probs.... my current set gives me errors at above 1hr even at DDR400 and oddly enough i can't even Prime if i don't set max mem to ~800MB (i know, prime95 and 1GB = problems u say) even though i could do it with my first set, not to mention 2x256MB BH-5....

i need your input, please ;)

Look for the 90nm Winchester Prime95 thread on XS. Many won't Prime at all, even at 200fsb.

[bachus_anonym]

Look for the 90nm Winchester Prime95 thread on XS. Many won't Prime at all, even at 200fsb.
well, this is not a Winnie issue as i can prime with 2x256MB BH-5, first set of VX 2x512MB but just not with the one i have now :(
with the first set of VX prime95 run first time i fired it up... this set i have now will not "prime" at all (error in blend ~1min, caused by most likely by "1GB - swap file Prime-related bug") unless i set max memory to be used as around 800MB).
i have no clue what's up with that so i guess i will just give up on that VX set ( i'm sorry Andy, i appreciate ALL your help, bro ;) )

[cupra]

Be careful that you are cooling the modules VERY WELL at 3.7v. Put a strong fan blowing right on them. Heat will kill RAM. Only use as much voltage as necessary. Just adding more voltage is not good. We only warranty the VX to 3.5v.

Understand that OPP uses extreme cooling methods for his overclocks. This is the key to hittting those speeds.

ok andy i will, now i put 80mm fan to cooling the vx, and i give 3.6v (full
load at 3.5v)

[MarilynMX]

I have a question. memtest86 shows exactly 1 error per loop since around loop#50 at 250MHz 2-2-2-8 or 10, howcome?

[cupra]

I have a question. memtest86 shows exactly 1 error per loop since around loop#50 at 250MHz 2-2-2-8 or 10, howcome?
#50 ?

its to much tests.
if its stable in the 5 test its supposed to be stable , so in test namber 50 also.

[enzoR]

I have a question. memtest86 shows exactly 1 error per loop since around loop#50 at 250MHz 2-2-2-8 or 10, howcome?

ram is getting too hot.

[MarilynMX]

I can run memtest days but seems my system will randomly reboot in windows after hours memtest. I've read some threads about this issue. I always have to reset bios or leave my system running at stock speed before tunning booster/ram again. The PSU i'm using is a brand new OCZ 600W guess it shouldnt be power issue.

[jinu117]

What is too hot for memory on those extreme condition (voltage & speed) Got 2 60mm fan directly on top of memory (I found it that these cools better than typical 2 80mm due to pressure of air it generates) and heatsink on booster and memory (inside heatspreader using infrared thermo) reads tops 36c (about 7-8c above ambient) with 3.5v 255 2-2-2-5) What are the temps of your sticks for those who can go 250+ with decent voltage? Just trying to figure out how much more room I got with this pair. (Oh, I use memtest86 only to test windows boot issue now. Windows memtest seems much better at finding if it will fail system or not more so than memtest86... it usually is stable 3-4mhz below what memtest86 is stable at).
Hmmm need to pick up VX back from my friend who played 270 2-2-2-5 with it :P (think he got it to 3.6v though)
Bit off topic... I am starting to really like this gigabyte K8NS 939ultra. No divider issue with VX, no wierd things I should be worried about, everything is working like charm with F5 bios.

[Gauss]

who cares, the powerstream PSU's are the best for extreme oc'ers (as far as i am concerned) ;)

I think PC Power & Cooling is even better, I own one and it's really the best PSU I've tested and owned. :cool:

[enzoR]

yea but powerstream is better bang for the buck and adjustable rails.

[Vassili]

hare you go 270 and 265 2-2-2-5, the 3.7 can do some problem?

Don't forget you are runnig a half multiplier (x10,5), your memory is now running at 2893/11 = 263 Mhz

But that's ofcourse still nice :toast:

[Chris85]

This VX memory sounds great, I just got my new system, still trying to tweak most of the things. So far my CPU runs at 2920Mhz stock cooled (FX-55) and the card at 600/600 (Powercolor X800XT)

I have G.Skill memory though and I can't get it to run at thight timings above 220Mhz, so I'm running 265 2.5-3-3-7 which costs me a lot of points I think. Don't know if I'm missing something about this memory, cause I don't think the G.Skill is that great... :confused: So far I only got 33k (Not tweaked and using WinXP though)

[Ulti]

This VX memory sounds great, I just got my new system, still trying to tweak most of the things. So far my CPU runs at 2920Mhz stock cooled (FX-55) and the card at 600/600 (Powercolor X800XT)

I have G.Skill memory though and I can't get it to run at thight timings above 220Mhz, so I'm running 265 2.5-3-3-7 which costs me a lot of points I think. Don't know if I'm missing something about this memory, cause I don't think the G.Skill is that great... :confused: So far I only got 33k (Not tweaked and using WinXP though)

Pump that FSB up to 290, you'll see if what it's like then :toast:

[Klisp]

I been reading the thread and i wanna ask if you guys think this ram will run ok on a DFI LP 250gb (s754) board ?

[MarilynMX]

to Jinu117: I tried memory divider on my board. Somehow CPU-Z doesnt show 200MHz but 188ish if I let cpu run at 240x11 using 166 divider. However, system boots up with DDR333 at 200MHz? Is this the problem you were talking about?

[Tony]

If your looking for VX Outpost (http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4305945?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG) have it in stock now.

[Playful_Buffalo]

^ thanks for the heads up

[conrad.maranan]

I been reading the thread and i wanna ask if you guys think this ram will run ok on a DFI LP 250gb (s754) board ?
Yes. It will definitely run on the DFI 754 board. I've tested up to 269MHz with 2x512MB error-free and stable with that board and a Clawhammer.

[Klisp]

Yes. It will definitely run on the DFI 754 board. I've tested up to 269MHz with 2x512MB error-free and stable with that board and a Clawhammer.
Kewl... thx for the reply. I'm gonna purchase some friday. Thanks again ;)

[JasonDTM]

I wish OCZ would make the VX in 2x256 kits for the people who dont need a gig 'o ram, and another reason, I cant afford to dump 250 into ram, Its extremly good ram, but yet again, I dont want to spend extra for what I dont need for the time being.

It'd be great for sales and ect, and I'm sure its been talked about at the OCZ HQ

[STEvil]

you could unsolder 1/2 the chips and run 2x256 that way.. :D:D

[conrad.maranan]

Or you can check out the Twinmos sticky, cough up a few bucks, buy a 2x256MB kit, and be a happy camper. ;)

[JasonDTM]

you could unsolder 1/2 the chips and run 2x256 that way.. :D:D

Not worth ruining excellent memory in venture of smaller sticks :x

[Supertim0r]

i wish i could find some Twinmos SP in Canada :rolleyes:

[El Snorro]

Just got my OCZ Vx here in Holland :toast:

http://home.planet.nl/~keust016/265pifast.JPG

how can i resize my screen in vbullet?

[OPPAINTER]

I'm sure this will be the next memory we'll see top 3D2001 users useing.

OPP

Like I said over a month ago:D
VX dominates.

OPP

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23238&stc=1

[perry_78]

WOW.


People are all hyped up over GSkill, this stuff whoops its ass! DDR540 @ 2-2-2-5 1T gives much better bandwith than DDR600 @2.5-3-3-7 1T!

Amazing stuff. Depending how low my Gskill want to go it seems like i'm going to pick up a gig of these!

How high at any timings does this ram go? 270 2-2-2-5 is nothing short of amazing, with only BH5 beating it :)

[Pc juice]

Hello Guys ! /newbie, 1st post :p: /

I have a few questions:
You use only memtest to check memory or other soft?
Why I asking? because i tested my XV (my new mems :p: ) with memtest #5 ~~50 lops without errors, super pi 16M, prime ~~1 hour also. But gold memory 'show me' many errors (test 121+) and i don't know which test is more 'believable'. It's normal appearance, or I expected too much from them?
I tested them at: @235 2-2-2 3,25V (dual on nf7) :confused:


P.S. sorry for my english :rolleyes:

Greetings

[TEDY]

it's normal on NF7 mobos...they dont tend to allow high FSB...some kind of wall at 225 range

...everything above it's a bonus.

[Pc juice]

Probably yes... but I tested them yesterday with prime ~~3-4 hours @235 3,2V without any problem. Today I try to burn in them with memtest, maybe it's the way...

But, what with first part of my question? Why with goldmemory I have errors, so other progs. runs fine all the time? I don't know what is wrong with this program...

[El Snorro]

Got myself a new pr 2 :)

http://img135.exs.cx/img135/5972/273sandra1fp.jpg

3,5v
not memtest stable though, but i can run a 3dmark2k1se bench with ~270mhz 3,5v :toast: :banana:

[sevenka]

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[Rabbi_NZ]

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[SKYNET]

Like I said over a month ago:D
VX dominates.

OPP

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23238&stc=1


windows 2000 dominate. :rolleyes:

[G H Z]

windows 2000 dominate. :rolleyes:

Whats your point? The VX is a big part of this equation as well.

[HARDCORECLOCKER]

Like I said over a month ago:D
VX dominates.

OPP

:D Hey OPP - did Ya try it with "real" BH-5 ??? :toast:

[AMDfan]

Hi everyOne !

If I said I can overclocked a Ocz platimum revision II PC3200
at 285Mhz in 1:1 cas: 2.5-3-3-6 with only 2.7v !!! Anyone
would believe me ???

[googles]

i guess we would have to..grudgingly of course ;) or hope its a .5 multi

kidding...its not unheard of..so cheers mate

[Troll]

What burn in procedure is better: with Memtest or with Sandra? Will unwackme-BH5-BurnIn help für UTT too?

[AMDfan]

i guess we would have to..grudgingly of course ;) or hope its a .5 multi

kidding...its not unheard of..so cheers mate

Seriously ! I wanna make sure, if anyone have ever see anybody who overclocked a OCZ Patimum Revision II PC3200, that can handle with stability, with only 2.7v at 285Mhz 1:1 cas 2.5-3-3-6

[andyOCZ]

Seriously ! I wanna make sure, if anyone have ever see anybody who overclocked a OCZ Patimum Revision II PC3200, that can handle with stability, with only 2.7v at 285Mhz 1:1 cas 2.5-3-3-6

Don't know if I count, but I hit 300fsb at 2.8v on the new DFI NF4 Ultra-D board with the OCZ Plat Rev 2.

Of course I'm running VX at 265mhz, 2-2-2-5 @ 3.4v with the DFI NF4 Ultra-D. :banana:

[cantankerous]

Hey Andy did your sticks always do that speed or only after time?

[mrlobber]

Of course I'm running VX at 265mhz, 2-2-2-5 @ 3.4v with the DFI NF4 Ultra-D. :banana:

Andy, maybe I've already asked it, but can you run your VX higher than 3.4vdimm without losing stability?

[Chr0n1c]

I've ordered a kit of VX from newegg b/c of this thread, and I hated my TCCD haha.

[wfarid]

did anyone hit 300 with the vx? cuz i would really like to get me some ram that does 300 with 2-2-2-5 timings stable...

[bwan]

did anyone hit 300 with the vx? cuz i would really like to get me some ram that does 300 with 2-2-2-5 timings stable...

tell us if you found any. :)

[bachus_anonym]

did anyone hit 300 with the vx? cuz i would really like to get me some ram that does 300 with 2-2-2-5 timings stable...
too much :banana4: lately ??? :lol:

[jikdoc]

Hi everyOne !

If I said I can overclocked a Ocz platimum revision II PC3200
at 285Mhz in 1:1 cas: 2.5-3-3-6 with only 2.7v !!! Anyone
would believe me ???

sure i'd believe you. my 3200plat rev2 did 285 2.5-3-36 @ 2.85v. it's not a stretch of the imagination that another person could do it at 2.7. that is of course assuming your psu rails are all at stock.

[wfarid]

it's a dream man, a dream that may in fact come true especially with the new venice cores and san diegos that are coming out...

[=[PULSAR]=]

Anyone try VX and the 4vdimm on the DFI yet?

[conrad.maranan]

Prior to my Ultra-D's death, I had my jumper set to enable the 4V option. With 3.6VDIMM (unverified BIOS setting), I was able to run at 10x271MHz 1:1 2-2-2-7-1T 3DMark stable. I was also able to run 3DMark at 9x277MHz 1:1 2-2-2-7-1T with the same voltage. That's with 2x512MB modules, in case anyone's wondering.

I shipped my board back to Newegg for replacement. You can expect to see some screenshots from my end when the new board arrives. ;)

[Silvestre]

sure i'd believe you. my 3200plat rev2 did 285 2.5-3-36 @ 2.85v. it's not a stretch of the imagination that another person could do it at 2.7. that is of course assuming your psu rails are all at stock.
good TCCD surely can do that. my G.Skill 4800GBLA can do 283 2.5-3-3-7 with 2.6V...these modules are pretty good...

[XiN]

Hi, a question: I'll buy a DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D. I must choose beetwen these VX and Geil Ultra-X PC3200/4400 (TCCD) ... which would you buy? I have understood VX modules needs much vdimm .... DFI vdimm limit is? 3.4v?

Thx for attention ;)

EDIT: another question ... I see G.Skill LE/LA or Geil UltraX 3200/4400 (TCCD) reaching 300 mhz but with high timings and VX reaching 260 but with aggressive timings ... what is it better? Can VX with higher timngs reach 300 mhz?

[bwan]

Hi, a question: I'll buy a DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D. I must choose beetwen these VX and Geil Ultra-X PC3200/4400 (TCCD) ... which would you buy? I have understood VX modules needs much vdimm .... DFI vdimm limit is? 3.4v?

Thx for attention ;)

EDIT: another question ... I see G.Skill LE/LA or Geil UltraX 3200/4400 (TCCD) reaching 300 mhz but with high timings and VX reaching 260 but with aggressive timings ... what is it better? Can VX with higher timngs reach 300 mhz?

1. definately VX or Twinmos SP with UTT chips. DFi NF4 have 4.0v onboard.
2. VX works best at 2-2-2-X. You can't get 300 MHz with the VX.

[XiN]

1. definately VX or Twinmos SP with UTT chips. DFi NF4 have 4.0v onboard.
2. VX works best at 2-2-2-X. You can't get 300 MHz with the VX.
Uhm, ok thx ;)

For a daily use 250x10 in your opinion what it is better? VX or TCCD modules (Geil UltraX, OCZ PC3200 Platinum rev. 2 etc...)?

[mrlobber]

=']Anyone try VX and the 4vdimm on the DFI yet?

Have tried up to 3.6v (board overvolts by 0.1, so is actually giving 3.7), however, at ANY speeds if running over 3.4Vdimm, memtest gives tons of errors. Ignoring that, I was up to 270x10 in Windows (with Clockgen) with my doggy cpu and subzero outside air coming from the window, was good for screenshots and playing around a little, but no serious benches, of course.

[Chr0n1c]

:( My brand new VX is not even botting into windows @ 220 with 3.2V with my DFI ultra-D.

Does this stuff need that much of a burn in or....? :stick:

[conrad.maranan]

Try a little bit more voltage. ;)

[Chr0n1c]

3.4V and still nothing. Can't get even load windows, just reboots.

I've tried both sticks seperately and neither make it @ 215 :shrug: :brick:

Perhaps the shipping bios doesn't like VX?

[conrad.maranan]

My shipping BIOS did well with my VX. Try trading places with the memory. Just switch them around and see what happens.

Do you have active cooling for the DIMM region? Do you have another PSU that you can test?

[Chr0n1c]

Yes I have an 80mm fan on them and I also have another PSU I can try but its not as good. its an antec 380 trupower =/

I'll try tradding places with the ram.

[conrad.maranan]

What's the highest speed your CPU can hit? Try a lower CPU multiplier and a higher higher HTT.

[Chr0n1c]

Chip is 2.7Ghz 24/7 stable. Got VX B/c I didn't like TCCD.