nVENTIV Software + Firmware + Manuals

[Kit-Tronics]

Kit-Tronics has a webpage making it easy to find nVENTIV software, firmware, manuals and a video.

[Aphex_Tom_9]

I <3 you kit-tronics, i bought a Mach II on ebay from you and am quite happy. this is useful.

[Dissolved]

Could someone Explain the Differences in the mach1 and mach2 Temp controllers?


Sorry for being OT, Thanks

[mdzcpa]

Thanks for the handy download page:)

[HawainPanda]

Here?s my opinion, I don?t think posting this in universities or trade schools will help, as most students are short on money nyways, but advertising in gaming mags would do the job

[unixxx]

Half of phase change is building a system that can bring your computer to sub zero temps, and not everyone is gonna be able to nor want to spend the time doing that. Which leaves phase change to a relatively small portion of computer users.

[sky]

yep, def. gaming mags - those hardcore gamers are the only ones, besides us nutcases, that will need the extra power. also i don't think that systems that are even more expensive and even more powerful will sell more. rather something like the kyrotech renegade, a vpc system designed to keep the cpu at ~15°C, at a cheaper price will open the markets. also the units need to be foolproof, so it's harder for the average user to kill his hardware via condensation or cracking the core, etc...

anyway good idea that support page...
oh something i wanted to ask all along, after browsing through your pages earlier today. was there ever a lianli kit for the old mach1? just curious cause i don't think the m2 kit will fit the m1...

[DudeMiester]

I think gaming mags for the win.

[gkiing]

That and price. Prometia's are not necessarily overpriced, but many people wouldn't care for/notice the extra controllers and fan controls. Here's my suggestions:

*Simple on/off switch, or optional cpu relay/controller
* -40C under load, can be done with 1/4hp compressor and something like a drilled out evap or machined channels
*Better condenser piping that doesnt break in transport
*Stainless steel hose with one layer of stainless steel braid
*All brazed connections
*Steel case that looks like the lian li kit. Or make the lian li kit less expensive.

It wouldn't be impossible to create a phase-change system available like the prometia for $350, even CDN$

I spent:

$70 - brand new r134a compressor
$25 - 6 row condenser
$25 - 12V 120mm Fan 100CFM
$10 - Cap tube
$7 - Drier
$30 - Copper block 2"x2"x3/4" with top
$15 Access valves
$12 3/8' ID rubber pressure control hose
$60 -Black steel smallish (atx) computer case for cooler
$7 - R22/r290 charge

Does -42C under load with r290 5% r22 95%.

That's 261 total. Not including the cost of tools, buying cylinders of gas, and the work done in assembly/machining of evaporator, and modding of the case. Still, something like this could be sold for $400 (CDN) pretty easily and make quite a good profit margin.

[sky]

i agree on the pricing, but then again you have to take into consideration that if the price drops a lot of "noobs" will probably buy one such unit. and with people inexperienced in this matter come problems and those require a bunch of people, eg. customer service and warranty/rma etc. that will add cost that shouldn't be neglected. also you need to pay the overhead, etc etc.

[kakaroto]

Phase Change will never be Mainstream thats my opinion.

I will explain:

- Main stream users do not need such low temperature. Air cooling is enough.
In the future (like Dothan) less power consumption = less heat

- Phase Change is like tuning your car, only a small target people

- The price is high, compressors are not cheap

- The Power consumption of Phase Change is too high for ordinary users (main stream)

- A prometeia is not for people who wants low noise and mobility

Watercooling is not even main stream :) but its getting popular.

[unixxx]

I agree, however, Intel is already starting to have a hard time with cooling. They were supposed to release a 4GHz P4 and that plan has been totally scapped due to heat problems. Overclockers may be forced to start using water cooling in conjunction with overclocking these newer processes. Even the new G5 requires watercooling to stop the dual PowerPCs from frying themselves. It used to just be switching that aluminum heatsink for a copper one, but now watercooling is almost required for overclocking the newer Intels.