View Full Version : Pelted Aluminum MaxiJet Res.
UFgatorSean
12-03-2004, 10:34 AM
Has anyone ever seen this thing before? Link! (http://aquastealth.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=35)
I am considering buying one and strapping a couple of air cooled pelts to it. Any insight?
MaxxxRacer
12-03-2004, 10:50 AM
Its alluminum... bad idea... it wil corrode your system. the annodizing only lasts so long.. One guy here on the forums got a hole in his block from corrosion. If you really must get it then use a heck of alot of zerex or else you will be seeing some fun stuff in your system.
also, strapping two pelts to the res isnt that great of an idea to begin with. if you want to waterchill your better off with a phase change waterchiller. they work a heck of alot better and you can buy them at aquirium (sp) supply stores. they are around 200 dollars.
if you really want to go with pelts, strap them directly to your cpu and gpu. they will work alot better than cooling the water. you also wont have to deal with condensation on the ENTIRE sytem, just on the cpu and gpu.
UFgatorSean
12-03-2004, 05:31 PM
the annodizing only lasts so long...
Yeah, but i doubt i'll still have this thing in 20 years...
also, strapping two pelts to the res isnt that great of an idea to begin with. if you want to waterchill your better off with a phase change waterchiller.
if you really want to go with pelts, strap them directly to your cpu and gpu. they will work alot better than cooling the water. you also wont have to deal with condensation on the ENTIRE sytem, just on the cpu and gpu.
I already have pelts on my CPU and GPU. They work great. I wanna chill the water to get them a little colder. This method is way cheaper than a noisy aquarium chiller.
I also plan on keeping the res outside of the case to keep the hot air and condensation out..
texuspete00
12-03-2004, 07:08 PM
I thought MaxxRacer's advice was pretty good. I mean, you're using a rad right now correct? So how's this all going to work out? You are hoping the pelts will cool the water some and the rad too? That's a tricky predicament to get good temps. It's usually rad OR waterchill. Although with the kinda of temps the water might be I guess both might work because the rad will probably still be dealing with warmer than ambient water... I dunno man. Just trying to work out possible thermals on this setup would make me dizzy.
Bigger rad and most powerful tec's you can get could be the best solution. Pelts cooling water thats already cooled hot sides of other TECs seems like a round about way of stacking them or something. Do tell us about your setup. Most would have assumed you didnt have pelts on there already.
MaxxxRacer
12-03-2004, 08:00 PM
Sean: It doesnt take 20 years... try 1 year or less for total corrosion.. Granted it depends on the water you use. but still.. You should be alright with a fair amount of zerex. I run zerex with my danger den maze4. but if i would have known about the alluminum corrosion being so horrible i would have gotten a silverprop at the time.
all things being equal, its just not a good idea to introduce something into your sytem that is potentially hazerdous when u dont have to. If u really want to cool it with pelts, make a rad out of copper. Im sure there are shops that will solder one together for you. you could drill the holes yourself. Its possible there is even one of the phase change guys like chilly1 who might fab it for you for some cash. Having it out of copper gives you two things. better thermal conductivity and no corrosion. As well you could have it fabbed however you like so you could customize it to fit the pelts..
Are you goign to build another water cooling system to cool these pelts as well?? And i forgot about what tex mentioned. If the water gets below ambient the rad will turn into a air condition unit like it was intended.. lol.. and that will hurt your temps obviously.
UFgatorSean
12-03-2004, 09:01 PM
I like the custom copper res idea! I will look into that! I wonder where i can find services like that, i think maybe 1/8" thick sheets to make a copper res might be a great solution as long as the price is comparable to the res i stated above... Copper is expensive!
I am already running a dual 120mm rad setup that does a good job handling the thermal load of the chips pelts. They are both the swiftech units. I figured that if i can drop the temp 5-10 degrees by adding to CHEAP 226 W 50mm pelts to the side of the $50 pump res combo then i should go for it!
Are you goign to build another water cooling system to cool these pelts as well?? And i forgot about what tex mentioned. If the water gets below ambient the rad will turn into a air condition unit like it was intended.. lol.. and that will hurt your temps obviously.
I have some solid copper heatsinks that are designed for the pelts i got cheap off ebay. I was gonna rig 50mm fans to cool them a lil better. The res unit will be outside of the case for cooler air and condensation issues.
MaxxxRacer
12-05-2004, 08:58 PM
50mm fans arnt going to cool 226watt pelts effectively imo.. i would think they woudl get too hot and burn out... could be wrong though...
I hope you are able to make this thing work correctly with the coper res if u can get one built... shoudl be interesting.
UFgatorSean
12-07-2004, 02:57 PM
50mm fans arnt going to cool 226watt pelts effectively imo.. i would think they woudl get too hot and burn out... could be wrong though...
I hope you are able to make this thing work correctly with the coper res if u can get one built... shoudl be interesting.
The solid copper heatsinks i got with them were specifically designed for the TECs. I am pretty sure they were intended to be used passively. if i put a fan over them they can only work better! Here is a LINK (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52534&item=3855384408&rd=1) to what they are.
Holst
12-08-2004, 06:11 AM
I think such a setup will be VERY inefective...
I doubt you will get your water temp down by much.. if at all by using those pelts.
Have you thought about building a evaporative water bong... a much better bet for peltier setups.
MaxxxRacer
12-08-2004, 11:52 PM
what have the pelts in the base of the bong or something??
and sean, those heatsinks may be designed for 50mm pelts, but they are most certainly not going to be able to disapate 225 watts of heat. They were designed for much less powerful tecs.. a 225watt tec will come close to melting with a cooling solution that weak. so be far warned. it wont turn out well with just using those and simple 50mm fans.
Holst
12-13-2004, 11:44 AM
No, I mean ditch the pelts entirely and just use a bong.
You can get under ambient watertemps from a bong if setup correctly.
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