Chilled Liquid Vs. Phase Change...

[VeryProudOfYa]

Whats better in yalls eyes...? I mean, I started out wanting to build a chiller... But im not sure if I should just jump up to a Phase Changer... I think Im gonna stick with a chiller, but I dont know... :toast:

[beau_zo_brehm]

Whats better in yalls eyes...? I mean, I started out wanting to build a chiller... But im not sure if I should just jump up to a Phase Changer... I think Im gonna stick with a chiller, but I dont know... :toast:

from my understanding, that is an extremely huge leap. phase change would yield a lot better results, but if u dont have a chiller under your belt, dont even think about it. (advice stolen from chilly1 :D )

[VeryProudOfYa]

Yea... I mean, I am very handy, and good with projects like this... I think I could grasp the knowledge pretty quickly after trial and error... But ya know, I think Im gonna build a chiller first... looks fun and not overly complicated... And Im sure I can get some help along the way from you guys... Peace, thanks for the info... :toast:

[afireinside]

Trial and error at high PSIs with explosive refrigerants isint a good idea :p:

[VeryProudOfYa]

haha... your probably right... :D

[masterofpuppets]

Start off by making waterchillers so you can learn how the compressor based system works, then start on phasechanging. I recommend waterchilling with an old freezer or an AC unit. I actually learnt about phasechange from my uncle and my grandad (who are both refrigeration engineers), but theres a high chance you don't know anyone who is a engineer, so I would go down the waterchiller route if I was you.

[f00t]

i chose to go phase change over water chiller when i built mine. the main reason was that all the tubing/ insulation of three water blocks got way too messy for me, especially since i have a very small case. i found a dd unit to be much neater than a waterchiller and a bit smaller too, in ost cases that is.

and, as long as you do your homework, i say that both are of the same difficulty to build

[mcnbns]

I've not done either, but it seems to me that building a water chiller by using the guts of an air conditioner would be easier than building a direct die phase change system from scratch, especially if you can't easily obtain refrigerants.

[beau_zo_brehm]

Trial and error at high PSIs with explosive refrigerants isint a good idea :p:

haha... thats good advice ;)

[iboomalot]

I would look at a chiller if you can get temps below -25c the increase in speed from -25c to maybe -50c with DD is not a whole lot and since you get to chill your VC with liquid that will help your clocks on the VC and the chilled NB could help your OC on the FSB and thus increase the rams bandwidth. I think just getting an extra 100mhz on the CPU is great but the overall cooling of system parts gives better results IMO.

also using 3/8" on the cooling lines will still chill and not be so cluttered. cooling both the CPU and GPU with DD isn't cheap, usually.

just my 2 cents on this

[VeryProudOfYa]

Thanks, yea... I was plannin ona chiller anyways, also... I dont think I will be cooling my vid card and NB quite yet... Funds are low, but my grandma just called and said that shed give me 1500 for X-mas, having no idea if she will or not though... Still we can only hope... :banana:

Thanks guys for helpin me out... What about a Pump though? Whats a good pump for chillers? And also, how much power does a window unit drain, my dad was sayin they are power hungry :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:es, so I didnt know if you guys mod it any with a chiller to drain less power? lol... I dont know, :D , Im a little high right now on BAWLS, so please exuse me... :toast:

[unixxx]

The best consumer pumps are the Eheim series. As for power usage, my 12,000 BTU A/C unit, according to energy star, is supposed to cost $76 per year to run.

[Dissolved]

id either make a small chiller, or ebay for a used mach1. mach1's go for 300bucks or less now, and thats a good start to phasechange, and would be probly cheapest of making your own or a phasechange.