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[XC] moddolicous

11-28-2004, 06:19 PM

I just joined the xtreme D2OL team with my dad's P3 700 (not much, but enough). I just remembered that I have around 8-10 old P1/P2 complete systems lying around. Does anyone think that I could network them somehow and make a 10 cpu D2OL Rig, or do I have to run them seperatley.

jjcom

11-28-2004, 06:31 PM

you'd have to run them seperatly. Yeah, more systems for the team! 8-10 P1/2 may not seem like much but anything helps and what ever they churn out will be welcome.

:banana3: WELCOME :banana3: to the team! :banana3:

jjcom

Disposibleteen

11-28-2004, 07:46 PM

yes even P1's help, your power bill might take a little hit from that though, dont let that discourage you though...

Sickapotamus

11-28-2004, 09:44 PM

i couldn't take that much power. p1's and p2's don't require that much power/wattage and had little power supplies...didn't they?

Sickapotamus

11-28-2004, 10:36 PM

errr it couldn't take that much power.

jjcom

11-29-2004, 12:33 PM

nope, I'd say you'll notice a 20% increase in your power bill

EDIT: Maybe just run the PII setups?
jjcom

[XC] moddolicous

11-29-2004, 12:40 PM

Alright, so there isnt a way to link them together. Since I dont want a 20% increase in my electric bill, I'll run them for about 8 or 9 hours a day. Do you think that will help?

FDM

11-29-2004, 01:15 PM

everything and anything helps!

Jeff

11-29-2004, 03:36 PM

everything and anything helps!

:up:

Disposibleteen

11-29-2004, 04:47 PM

heh, yup@

jjcom

11-29-2004, 05:08 PM

yep anything helps. O'well if you can't run 24/7, neither do I. Just this rig a thats in the sig for about 8 or 9 hours as well. So don't worry about not being able to run 24/7

jjcom

Aphex_Tom_9

11-29-2004, 05:20 PM

as far as your original question about linking computers, im interested myself, cant they be clustered or something?

jjcom

11-29-2004, 06:02 PM

depends on what you mean...if you mean sharing internet and such then yes, but when you run D2OL each computer will have its only copy of the program.

jjcom

Rodzilla

12-01-2004, 08:29 PM

Linked as in run as one node??? Yes...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43459

See # 7

Your power bill for running all 10 rigs will not go up 20%... It will go up some but I wouldn't expect it to be anything that major... Give it shot!

I would expect it to take as much power as about 3 High end P4E's... possibly only 2...

The P1 only takes about a 100Watt PSU (and that being very generous) PII aren't much more...

My only worry would be if D2OL will even run on a P1 or P2... I'll check.

Rodzilla

12-01-2004, 08:37 PM

Requirements: 64 MB RAM, 350MHz processor

There you have it... the min needed to run D2OL...

[XC] moddolicous

12-02-2004, 11:30 AM

Thats a problem. The P1's I have are all about 200mhz, so I guess I cant run them, or can I. The P2's arent a problem since they are all 400<, so I'll start to run them under node 113723. Plus, would a better video card help at all in D2OL, or is it just the CPU.

Entity_Razer

12-02-2004, 12:28 PM

the better the vid card the less CPU needs to do but if it makes that big a difference..... :confused:

jjcom

12-02-2004, 12:31 PM

lalPOOO

12-02-2004, 05:05 PM

There you have it... the min needed to run D2OL...

They might not be factoring in that the systems would be 24/7 devoted to d2ol, so its worth a shot.

Rodzilla

12-02-2004, 06:42 PM

I dunno... jjcom says he's running it on a 133MHZ... maybe that's just the recommended min from D2OL...

Maybe it will run on anything??

Interesting...

Rodzilla

12-02-2004, 06:43 PM

the better the vid card the less CPU needs to do but if it makes that big a difference..... :confused:

A hot rod vidcard wouldn't make a diff... That would be sweet if it could!

jjcom

12-02-2004, 06:50 PM

I can't even find my post. What the.... anyway. It was meant to say that systems can run software not meant to be ran. The expamble I was using involved netscape 7.0 and a few other apps. I haven't tried D2OL, yet. this will be done tomorrow. I'll let you know about the results.

jjcom
EDIT: I could have swore I had posted something like that already....sorry FireFox has been messing up lately under XS.org

Rodzilla

12-02-2004, 06:52 PM

were you talking about power usage... or running D2OL?

Sickapotamus

12-02-2004, 10:36 PM

continuing on the subject about power usage and not the title of the thread. :D
try and run d2ol on the slower rigs. if they generate enough points to make it worthwile great if not oh well. that's still more points than them sitting around doing nothing. try a few for a month and see if it makes much of a difference in your power bill.

Disposibleteen

12-03-2004, 08:26 AM

this is a good idea, i am running 5 systems and i havent seen a spike on my power billl very much, (maybe $15)

agor

12-03-2004, 12:05 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_cluster

i think youre looking for a cluster

Sickapotamus

12-03-2004, 03:57 PM

let's see a cluster of computers connected to a larger cluster of computers in d2ol. some guy made a clustered computer with maybe 9 durons and motherboards in one single custom made case. don't know what os is was running though. :rolleyes:

Rodzilla

12-03-2004, 06:06 PM

http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/

This looks really interesting!!!!

Magnj

06-02-2005, 04:06 PM

gonna bring this back from the dead instead of starting a whole new thread. I will be purchasing the Dual opteron server deal at the AMD Tech tour coming up in July. I was intialy gonna sell it. but then I realized how powerful my computer plus a dual opteron server connected in a cluster would be. So How would I go about connecting 2+ PC's to share processing power. All Pc's except the main one would just have the bare essentials. I would want to run this on a windows OS, XP if possible. Anyone?

Mr_Slinky

06-02-2005, 04:25 PM

http://www.tech-heaven.com/forum/history/topic/9425.html
try this in the post about #10 or so they discuss it

angrysquirrel

06-03-2005, 08:08 AM

As to the question of minimum requirements for d2ol, I have not had any problems running it on a pII 250, and had it running for a little bit on a pentium overdrive. Anything that is x86 should have no problem running d2ol, its just a question of how much it will produce.

Magnj

06-03-2005, 08:39 AM

yea, I wasn't worried about that.

The linked thread was intresting. But I have heard of beouwolf before. Just wondering if anyone knew of anyting with a windows OS

angrysquirrel

06-03-2005, 09:15 AM

I don't think there is any way to cluster in windows, and with beowulf you need identical machines, IIRC.

Clustering with not get you any performance gains over running the machines by them selves, the only thing it may do is slightly reduce power consumption (only one hard drive)

Edit: openMosix may not require identical systems, but its hard to tell. It can only distribute processes, not threads, though.

Edit2: NVM, http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/clustering/default.asp

Edit3: The best way to do a cluster (which is faster than doing individual nodes) is to make one linux based machine with the openmosix software installed and use a bootable cd for all of your other machines. You would need to make a script to run d2ol for each new machine, and to copy and run it if there was not a free binary to run (unless you can run the client multiple times, I haven't tried it)

Magnj

06-03-2005, 03:52 PM

Ok. This is not intended soley for crunching, It will do that but mainly I was looking to pool together power, but apparantly thats not possible? I was just thinking that benching would be fun on a dual opteron server + My Setup atm.

teqguy

06-03-2005, 05:23 PM

It's not a project I'd want to touch, but it wouldn't be hard to add an extension to the application. Depending on the circumstances, you could either make it multithreaded or node based.

Luckily it's Java based, so you can get the source code using a Java decompiler.

With other distributed processing applications I've used, all you had to do was join the same team or make that system a work node registered under the same name.

Have you tried simply logging in using the same e-mail address multiple times?