Newbie Orientation - Have a question? Ask here!

[Jeff]

New to D²OL and have a question? Feel free to post here and someone should be by shortly to give you a hand.

Welcome! :toast:

[Rodzilla]

[pretend to be a n00b=on]Jeff... what if I'm new to XS and I have a question... :confused: :confused: :D

I can't post until I have an account :O

Who, and how, can I contact for help while I'm waiting for my account to be activated???[/n00b mode]

:D Easy sir! You can e-mail me... SRodman at mchsi dot com!

I'll be sure to help you out ASAP! :D

[Jeff]

:lol:

[FDM]

sticky?

[Rodzilla]

Ewwwwwww! It's sticky! :D

[Jeff]

Reason I started this thread is because I re-worded the original D²OL thread...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43195

[Rodzilla]

http://home.earthlink.net/~adventurevision/hot.gifXtremeSystems EZ-Installer
Your one-stop page for installing D²OL ;)
http://www.adventurevision.com/ftp/Rodzilla/XSsoft.htm

Nice!! he he he

Always nice to see something that you took on as your pet project get some attention! Thanks! :D

[Jeff]

Well you did a fantastic job... very professionally done in my opinion. It deserves all the recognition it gets. :toast:

[Siphilon]

Okay...i set up the client on a laptop and entered the same email address used for my other nodes. But it's not showing up in the list. I could have sworn that it was there earlier today and that I had actually added it but I've checked my stats throughout the day and it still says 2 nodes, not 3 ;-0

grrrr...any suggestions? reinstall?

the MIA node is 113520

thx.

[Rodzilla]

Okay...i set up the client on a laptop and entered the same email address used for my other nodes. But it's not showing up in the list. I could have sworn that it was there earlier today and that I had actually added it but I've checked my stats throughout the day and it still says 2 nodes, not 3 ;-0

grrrr...any suggestions? reinstall?

the MIA node is 113520

thx.

http://tn-d2ol-stats.homeip.net/nodepass?location=113520
That node JUST put up points... it should be there now! :up:

If not...

Did you install it as a service? If so... stop the service and kill all of the processes associated with it in the task manager (D2OL.exe, DockWin.exe or WinGrid.exe) then start it with the D2OL.exe in the install folder... That will put it in the task bar so you can see it temp. Right click on it and select "status". In the window that pops up select the Statistics button at the top... check the email address that is listed...

If it's wrong then just delete the node.prp file in the ...D2OL\res folder. Start it again with the D2OL.exe file so it runs in the taskbar. When it comes up if will ask you to register it again. :D

[FDM]

rodzilla, if your waking up as I go to bed thats just sad... hehe

[Rodzilla]

Yea... they make me work :( Go sleep it off man! :up:

[[XC] moddolicous]

What exactly is DSpy? Does it increase/decrease amount of candidates or something like that. I know it has something to do with Java.

[bh2k]

I believe I am http://home.earthlink.net/~adventurevision/hot.gif

[Rodzilla]

What exactly is DSpy? Does it increase/decrease amount of candidates or something like that. I know it has something to do with Java.

It's a replacement for the resource hungry GUI that D2OL uses.

It's also a great monitoring tool if you have your nodes running as services.

Also useful to keep track of your nodes through a network :D

[[XC] moddolicous]

Does anyone here run D2OL on a mac?? I have an older 9600 (I have so many old computers its insane!!) that currently is just used for homework. Does anyone know if its that much different or if its just the same??

[Jeff]

I'm of no help with Macs... except Big Macs. ;) (yeah... it's sad since that really is my sense of humor trying to come out... :rolleyes: ) ;)

[NiCKE^]

Do the comp have to be connected to internet all the time when it folds? or can I just plugin internet like once a week for sending stats?

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

Do the comp have to be connected to internet all the time when it folds? or can I just plugin internet like once a week for sending stats?

You can set your client to offline mode and if you want to upload you can just turn it to online mode. Right-mouse button on the client icon and declick online.

[NiCKE^]

Ah k, but will it still fold? Like if I put it in my garage for 1 week and then plug in internet, will I only get results from 1 day or the whole week? I dont know if it downloads any test files and such stuff to know what it should "calculate".

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

Ah k, but will it still fold? Like if I put it in my garage for 1 week and then plug in internet, will I only get results from 1 day or the whole week? I dont know if it downloads any test files and such stuff to know what it should "calculate".

You will get results for the whole week. Make sure you put your Candidate queue size big enough (2000) in properties if you do this.

[Rodzilla]

Does anyone here run D2OL on a mac?? I have an older 9600 (I have so many old computers its insane!!) that currently is just used for homework. Does anyone know if its that much different or if its just the same??

Sorry dude... I don't know anything about Mac... :(

Do the comp have to be connected to internet all the time when it folds? or can I just plugin internet like once a week for sending stats?

You sure can!
Check out #3 for some help!

[NiCKE^]

I addade another node to my profile now, I thought it already was there but it wasnt, so my questions is: do it merge the two nodes stats to just one stat or what?

[Jeff]

Yep, all your nodes show up in your stats. I have 27 nodes and they all add to my total. (only half of those are active btw... I wish all 27 were producing! :eek: )

[NiCKE^]

I had to have my D2OL proggies off for some time today, about 3 hours while I was checking the harddrivers for errors and stuff, but now it's up running.

[[XC] moddolicous]

can you combine nodes? I have 2 nodes, and ones producing around 17 candidates a day(still setting up router, only on a P3 800) and one producing .73 candidates. Can I combine them, or no?

[Shoom]

Does anyone know if there is a script/program like D2OL Daddy but with changable priorites?
Erm.. best explain that a bit clearer! :rolleyes:

Im looking to change the priority of Dockwin.exe & Gridwin.exe from low to BelowNormal every time they open themselves..
Because this is my only PC i cant fully dedicate it to "conforming" cos i have to use it all the time as well, the problem i have is that everytime i use the PC it kicks them two out the way and they stop doing anything which is a right pain in the a**e cos i want to do as much as possible for the team (and the cause of course:D)!!! It was easy to set up with F@H but D2OL is very limited like that.

Anyone got any better suggestions than doing it via TM every 5mins? :stick:

[Edit] Just found this funky program (http://gilchrist.ca/jeff/SetPriority), not had a play with it yet as im waaay too tired! :yawn:
Looks like what im after, it could help us all out with rackin up them points too! :toast:

[Edit 2] Nope... It isn't a permanant solution... Still stuck... Any ideas?

[MintabiePete]

I would just like your views on "Sneaker Netting" and running your client's on someone elses computer .

thanks

Peter :)

[Jeff]

Officially... don't do it without permission.

Privately... :shrug: If you can handle loosing your job or getting kicked out of school(or whatever will happen if you get caught), then go for it. ;) You can set the client to cache 2000 units which would probably be good for a week or two. I've never tried it with D2OL so I'm not sure what kind of storage you're looking at for 2000 units.

Seriously though... only do something like this if you can handle the consequences of getting caught. People have had thier lives ruined because of this sort of thing.

[MintabiePete]

Thanks Jeff for your views. Actually I should have enlarged on what I was asking . I know the consequences , but for me I dont like people doing it . Running a D20L client to help humanity is a great thing , and it should be encouraged . For me I also like to be a bit competitive and when someone comes along and gets a mile in front of you because he or she has put a client on someone else's computer to get more score , and then gets in front , That was what I wanted to know of peoples views on in this forum . :)

Thanks

Peter :)

[Jeff]

Ahh... I see.

Personally... I have it installed on two rigs that I made for people and they don't mind having it there at all. In the past I've installed DC programs(SETI@Home in particular) on people's rigs without asking first. I did it because of the competitive aspect without really thinking it through. Not too long after I did it, I decided not to do it like that anymore. Back in the SETI days, for me that was about 2 or 3 years ago now, not many people would agree to have that program run on thier computers. Now that I'm into the more "medical" projects... I've found that almost everyone will say "sure, you can put that on my system as long as it doesn't hurt anything".

I don't see anything wrong with networking yourself to be honest. If you fix and/or build computers for people and they don't mind helping you out, go for it. I think most of us here could volunteer our services for friends, family, and relatives and get a little kick in our output.

BTW, welcome to the forums! :toast: ;)

[Rodzilla]

I would just like your views on "Sneaker Netting" and running your client's on someone elses computer .

thanks

Peter :)

On sneaker Netting... It's a good thing if you have dial-up or no physical network.

It’s also useful to play mind games with other teams :hehe:

Just to be clear (because of the way you asked the question... I don't want anyone to think sneaker netting is a bad thing) When someone is sneaker netting they are downloading a reserve of Candidates to crunch offline. So instead of uploading results every 6 hours... you will upload all of your results when you choose to. There is nothing wrong with it...

On installing it on other people’s hardware... It really all depends on how you do it. If you ask and they agree then by all means please do! It helps the team, your stats, and the project as a whole!

If you don't ask (or borging as we like to call it) then you have stepped into the realm of darkness! :lol: I would advise against it.

[Rodzilla]

Does anyone know if there is a script/program like D2OL Daddy but with changable priorites?
Erm.. best explain that a bit clearer! :rolleyes:

Im looking to change the priority of Dockwin.exe & Gridwin.exe from low to BelowNormal every time they open themselves..
Because this is my only PC i cant fully dedicate it to "conforming" cos i have to use it all the time as well, the problem i have is that everytime i use the PC it kicks them two out the way and they stop doing anything which is a right pain in the a**e cos i want to do as much as possible for the team (and the cause of course:D)!!! It was easy to set up with F@H but D2OL is very limited like that.

Anyone got any better suggestions than doing it via TM every 5mins? :stick:

[Edit] Just found this funky program (http://gilchrist.ca/jeff/SetPriority), not had a play with it yet as im waaay too tired! :yawn:
Looks like what im after, it could help us all out with rackin up them points too! :toast:

[Edit 2] Nope... It isn't a permanant solution... Still stuck... Any ideas?

Hmmmmmmmm... I would advise against running D2OL at a higher priority...

Your computer will run like crap if you do that. You will be able to produce more... BUT... your computer will be unresponsive and sluggish.

A very important aspect of D2OL is that you can run it on a systems without affecting your performance. No one would use it if it slowed down your computer.

[[XC] moddolicous]

I am hooking up a few more computers, and I was just wondering if I should just use the same node or have a bunch of different ones.

[Rodzilla]

That is totally up to you. If you want to add more just use the same e-mail address to register the new ones, log in here http://app.d2ol.com/memberServices/memberLogin.jsp , and at the bottom you will see a button for "Add node" It will bring up a window with nodes you can add. :D

[Jeff]

I think you can, and in my case do, lose work running multiple computers on the same node ID. Over at the D2OL boards it was mentioned that if the different computers are all trying to upload/download at the same time... the work will be valid scientifically but you may lose some credit.

In my case I have 3 dual Xeons running seperate nodes on each of 4 instances of D2OL and I have 1 dual Xeon running the same node ID for all 4 instances of D2OL. This last machine is always at least 5 candidates behind the other 3 Xeon rigs every update. For the life of me I have not been able to figure it out.

After reading the D2OL boards and seeing this mentioned... I think I found out why. I'm going to be converting the one rig over to 4 seperate node IDs this weekend so I'll have some hard evidence either way next week.

[D_o_S]

Hi!

I've just downloaded the installer, registered the node, and joined the team. How do I now my progress on the assigned work?

[Rodzilla]

You can check your stats here
http://stats.free-dc.org/new/projpage.php?proj=d2ol

here

http://tn-d2ol-stats.homeip.net/allteams

here

http://app.d2ol.com/stats/topTeams.jsp

or here!

http://d2ol.tastats.com/main.php




Or you could also use DSpy to keep track of them in real time.
http://homepages.opencominc.com/smichael/DSpy.exe

[D_o_S]

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!

[shadowing]

Question: I'm new and didn't install it yet. But I'm planning to install Rodzilla's AgentInstallers. But what's the difference between Community and Personal installers?

I'd also like to know how you register and what are nodes? and does it support Linux?
Thx.

[Rodzilla]

Question: I'm new and didn't install it yet. But I'm planning to install Rodzilla's AgentInstallers. But what's the difference between Community and Personal installers?

I'd also like to know how you register and what are nodes? and does it support Linux?
Thx.

Community installers are for anyone to use who want to contribute to the team under the Community account "XtremeSystems_Community"

The Personal installers do not come registered to any account... so you use them to crunch under your own account.

To register you need to install the Agent, get your node number, and go here http://app.d2ol.com/memberServices/createMember.jsp

My installers do not support Linux... They are Windows only.

The Official D2OL downloads page has an installer for Linux
http://www.d2ol.com/dOL/download_instructions.html

[shadowing]

Under the personal installer, can I still set up my personal one and help XS?

EDIT: When I install it, is it the same as the original and ask for the email address?

[Rodzilla]

Under the personal installer, can I still set up my personal one and help XS?

EDIT: When I install it, is it the same as the original and ask for the email address?

It's not the "same" as the original... the installer creates it as a service and is all setup for Max output and other preferred settings. It also installs D2OL Daddy.

The e-mail that it is asking for is your e-mail that you want to create an account with. That's the difference from the community installers... the community ones come pre registered with the XS_community account e-mail.

The personal installers are not registered so you can create a node under your own account. (Which is why it ask for an e-mail address)

[caLume]

hi :)

i finished my 2nd node so i wanna crunch with it under the same account.
but what shall i do?
ive installed the standard client on my workstation/maincomputer. (sig)
operating under the "socke" account ;)
what shall i do that my 2nd node operates under the "socke" account :) ?

thx

[Rodzilla]

Log in here http://app.d2ol.com/memberServices/memberLogin.jsp and click add node... you should see any nodes you have registered.

[caLume]

Log in here http://app.d2ol.com/memberServices/memberLogin.jsp and click add node... you should see any nodes you have registered.


thx :)

[shadowing]

Well. Here's another question. After I install the Personal Installer, do I need to create an account at the create account page?

And should i create a node under my account so that two PC's can both do work and get credit?

What's the XS team called?

[Redp5]

Another Question? I did a search and didn't come up with anything. My question is...did anyone figure out if bandwidth was better for d2ol or pure mhz?

Thanks,
Whit...

[Rodzilla]

Well. Here's another question. After I install the Personal Installer, do I need to create an account at the create account page?

And should i create a node under my account so that two PC's can both do work and get credit?

What's the XS team called?

Yes... after you create a node with the D2OL installer you need to create an account. After you make the account you will be able to add the nodes that you have created.

Our team is called "XtremeSystems"

[Rodzilla]

Another Question? I did a search and didn't come up with anything. My question is...did anyone figure out if bandwidth was better for d2ol or pure mhz?

Thanks,
Whit...

Hmmmmmmmmm

I assume you mean memory bandwidth... and CPU MHz... You want a good balance of the 2... Just as any resource intensive app it uses both to perform its calculations...

[shadowing]

Apparently, I can't download the One-shot Installer. Is there any difference between that and the "original" installers?

[Rodzilla]

I downloaded one just fine... check your url...

http://www.adventurevision.com/ftp/Rodzilla/XSsoft.htm

[shadowing]

Thx for all the help. I finally downloaded it and am currently in the team.

[Rodzilla]

Happy to be of Service! Drop us a line if you need anything else! :up:

[chipmonk010]

sry if this has already been asked but when i reboot my machine do i loose any work that isnt finished? cuz i had finished like 3 (lol) out of the 200 tasks i downloaded then i rebooted and it downloaded 3 more tasks to send it back up to 200 tasks completed went down to 0. did i loose those 3 tasks?

sry for the noobness :toast:

[Jeff]

Nope, completed candidates are uploaded every 6hrs or upon a re-boot. The only work that gets lost is conformers. There are 20 conformers in a candidate and if you are on the 18th conformer when you reboot... you loose all 18. It's not a terribly big thing if you are running anything quicker than a 1.5GHz CPU... but if you are running a 500MHz CPU... you may want to wait for those two conformers to finish. ;)

(and don't worry... we were all D2OL noobs in the beginning!) :toast:

[chipmonk010]

awsome! and i didnt quite get how it all fit together "conformers" "canidates" and the like n now i do! thanks alot :toast:

[chipmonk010]

oh sry another question lol i have this loaded on my gaming rig and its the its rodzillas version so it runs as a service. im not quite sure but i think i see a slight slowdown in half life 2 what do i have to do to pause or stop the proggy while i game? in the services manager theres 2 services that i can pause X-d2ol and ddaddy. but in the task manager theres dockwin, d2ol and d2ol daddy can i just end task on all of these and not loose all my canidates that havent been uploaded? also if i shutdown a comp and i dont connect to the internet will it save my finished canidates to the HD, since they wont get a chance to upload on shutdown.

this is the last one i promise!

Thanks :toast:

[shadowing]

Well. I dunno about this. But I'm planning to use D2OL on both my comp. Do I first run the Install on the other comp., register it, then click add node in my account? Or how do i add it?

[chipmonk010]

yeah if u went to the site and registered with an email then when u load the client type that email in when it asks u and goto the site and log in u will then see a list of nodes that can be added (in this case just one the one u just loaded) hit add node n ur good to go. :banana:

[Rodzilla]

yeah if u went to the site and registered with an email then when u load the client type that email in when it asks u and goto the site and log in u will then see a list of nodes that can be added (in this case just one the one u just loaded) hit add node n ur good to go. :banana:

You are correct!!! :up:

oh sry another question lol i have this loaded on my gaming rig and its the its rodzillas version so it runs as a service. im not quite sure but i think i see a slight slowdown in half life 2 what do i have to do to pause or stop the proggy while i game? in the services manager theres 2 services that i can pause X-d2ol and ddaddy. but in the task manager theres dockwin, d2ol and d2ol daddy can i just end task on all of these and not loose all my canidates that havent been uploaded? also if i shutdown a comp and i dont connect to the internet will it save my finished canidates to the HD, since they wont get a chance to upload on shutdown.

this is the last one i promise!

Thanks :toast:

If you want to stop the agent from running you should stop the XS_D2OL service... don't worry about the DDaddy... it's just D2OL Daddy...

I'm not sure what will happen if you just kill the task without stopping the services... I've done it before... But I would recommend stopping the service and then killing the DockWin.exe (or GridWin.exe... which ever is running at the time) When you stop the service the D2OL.exe process will stop running. If GridWin.exe is running it will not stop until it finishes all 20 Conformers... unless you terminate the task in the task manager.

Every time your Agent finishes 20 conformers it will take the best candidate from that set and save it to your completed work queue... Every 6 hrs they will automatically be uploaded... if you restart the agent they will also be uploaded.

It's perfectly fine to restart without an internet connection... your results will be saved until they are uploaded... ie you hit your 6hr mark and have a network connection.

[chipmonk010]

cool, thanks a ton rodzilla, im all set up n running just have to join the team tomorrow. currently running 4 nodes (only 1 24/7 :( ) but that will soon change with dual xeons on the way :banana:

thanks again :toast:

[Rodzilla]

cool, thanks a ton rodzilla, im all set up n running just have to join the team tomorrow. currently running 4 nodes (only 1 24/7 :( ) but that will soon change with dual xeons on the way :banana:

thanks again :toast:

Are you getting a Dual Xeon 1.6GHz LV setup?

[chipmonk010]

Are you getting a Dual Xeon 1.6GHz LV setup?

hehehe yup! well ive been looking for a new project since my gaming rig is finally pretty much finished n jeffs guide just put me right over the edge. matched pair of 1.3volt 1.6ghz d1 stepping xeons on there way from ebay :banana:

[Rodzilla]

Sweet!!!

Maybe you should get 2 of those rigs... you know... for good measure. ;)

[chipmonk010]

shhhhh! dont temp me! lol we'll have to seen what kinda dent 1 puts in my bank account first :D

[Rodzilla]

Ya know... if you can afford 2.. then why not three? :D

[chipmonk010]

Ya know... if you can afford 2.. then why not three? :D

lmao, do u have one? u must seeing as ur 3rd in the stats, is it as totally awsome as i think it is or better! :slobber: i cant wait

[Rodzilla]

Nope... I'm not running one of these... i do have a dual 2.0GHz Xeon rig... but it's not O/C'd or anything special... My P4E @ 3.7GHz beats that...

I mainly run a butt load of mid range > high end PCs

I have a set of these chips... I just need to start buying parts to finish it. Then I'll be making a run at Jeff! And running away from Serlv :lol:

[chipmonk010]

sweet, maybe in a couple years ill catch up lol

[Rodzilla]

I've only been at this for 101 days exactly... I registered on 10/10/04. So it’s possible to climb up the stats pretty hard and fast! :up: You just gotta commit to it!

[Disposibleteen]

yea you just have to have the computing power!

[chipmonk010]

I've only been at this for 101 days exactly... I registered on 10/10/04. So it’s possible to climb up the stats pretty hard and fast! :up: You just gotta commit to it!

hmm in that case u may have a lil competition on ur hands :p:

[shadowing]

LOL. I dunno if I'll catch up that fast... I only have one.

I could have two, but does anyone know how to install it in Linux?

[jjcom]

theres an installer for it on the offical D2OL site. I haven't used it myself, since its too big for me to download (unless its at night) since I have dial up. The site has the instructions so that should help you out.

jjcom

[Jeff]

theres an installer for it on the offical D2OL site. I haven't used it myself, since its too big for me to download (unless its at night) since I have dial up. The site has the instructions so that should help you out.

jjcom

If anybody on the team needs these files on CD, just PM me with your address and I can burn a copy and send it to you free of charge. I have a sleeve of 100 CDROMs that have been sitting here for ages and I've only used about 10 of them. :)

[[XC] serlv]

Then I'll be making a run at Jeff! And running away from Serlv :lol:


Dude, don't worry about me. I'm 13-14 places away from you.
Ya got close to a 3 month jump on me, I started Dec. 30th.

I do think Chipmonk should make a run at me, I'm much closer. It will be good practice for him in catching you.

[shadowing]

Yeah. I dunno if i can even get that high. If I leave this comp. on for a long time.... , maybe. And good job so far. Linux is complicated.

[chipmonk010]

Dude, don't worry about me. I'm 13-14 places away from you.
Ya got close to a 3 month jump on me, I started Dec. 30th.

I do think Chipmonk should make a run at me, I'm much closer. It will be good practice for him in catching you.

lol serlv i dono if ill be able to catch up to u ne time soon, im thinkin with the xeon rig i might be able to hit the top 25 in a couple weeks, but ill need more power to get up there with the big guns. :bows: btw i see u onyl have 3 nodes what u running? 3 xeon rigs?

:toast:

[[XC] serlv]

Nah, there is more than 3 rigs running. Just three node numbers. I actually could of put them all on one node. Don't let the number of nodes fool you; you could actually run 200 machines under one node number.

No Xeon yet, but 2 of 'em on the way; motherboard, too. Right now I am all AMD.

[chipmonk010]

Nah, there is more than 3 rigs running. Just three node numbers. I actually could of put them all on one node. Don't let the number of nodes fool you; you could actually run 200 machines under one node number.

No Xeon yet, but 2 of 'em on the way; motherboard, too. Right now I am all AMD.

oh yeah, the super node thingy u can setup.......2?! :slobber: lol ur gonna be flyin up the stats w two!

[[XC] serlv]

LOL, no not 2 dual Xeon setups ( I wish! ). Just 2 Xeons and a motherboard for 'em.

[shadowing]

How much does a Xeon rig cost? If I could, maybe i'll get one.

[[XC] serlv]

150 to 200 for mobo, 112 shipped for 2 x Xeon, bout $30-40 for two HS

plus whatever else you put in it

oh yeah, 60 -100 for beefy psu ( greater than 25 or 30 on 12V ), unless you have one around that meets that grade

[chipmonk010]

LOL, no not 2 dual Xeon setups ( I wish! ). Just 2 Xeons and a motherboard for 'em.

lol, good maybe ill still have a chance then :D

How much does a Xeon rig cost? If I could, maybe i'll get one.

100-150 for the chips, 200 for the board, eh bout 140 for 1 gig twinmos (or other 3200) ram. plus u know normal junk psu, cd, hd, case hsf units, so 700-800 bucks maybe. if u upgrade a current sys then obviously less.

[shadowing]

Ouch... Maybe somewhere next year. Or maybe I can get the old Pentium 2 to live. :)

[shadowing]

Sorry for the doublepost. But apparently, D2OL is as a service whenever I start up. However, how can I make the gui appear whenever i do this? This is really annoying me...

[Rodzilla]

Sorry for the doublepost. But apparently, D2OL is as a service whenever I start up. However, how can I make the gui appear whenever i do this? This is really annoying me...

Use DSpy. The whole point to running it as a service is so it's out of the way... and so it starts up when you boot and no one will mess with it.

If you want the Sys tray icon to show up when the service starts anyway, it's really simple.

Go to the Service Manager (Right click on your My Computer icon on the desktop and select Manage. At the bottom you should see Services...) Stop the XS_D2OL1 service.

Now go to the task manager and stop the Gridwin.exe (or Dockwin.exe) Do it for all of them if you used a multiple node installer (XS_D2OL1, XS_D2OL2 ect.)

Now... with the services stopped and the task stopped... go into the Service Manager and open up the properties for XS_D2OL1.

Go up and click on the Log On tab. Put a checkmark beside "allow service to interact with desktop".

Restart the service. It will now start in the system tray. Now if you need to stop it just close the sys tray icon.

[Disposibleteen]

jeez rod is there anything you dont know about this prog?

[Rodzilla]

I still haven't figured out how to make it run on my toaster! :D

I made the installers... so i have to know it...

[Disposibleteen]

true, it would be fun if you could make it run on your toaster, i would make an Extreme toaster farm! they are cheaper than any computer worth buying!

[chipmonk010]

hmm i bet u could get it to run on a cell phone. its writen in java so its possible, lol not that i would be able to figure out how to do it

[Rodzilla]

Only the GUI is Java... the engine that does the docking is a windows app... I don't think it will run on a cell.

It will run on an iPaq... or XBox :D

[shadowing]

Or a PS2, Gamecube... The possibilities are LIMITLESS!!

[jjcom]

yeah, your right, theres Linux installers and Linux can run on an Xbox or gamecube, not sure about the PS2 but I wouldn't be surprised if it does...theres cell phones that run a Linux based OS thing aren't there...:D

jjcom

[mad mikee]

1. Ran the community installer on His. Looks like it is working?
How do I tell if it is working well and keep track of what it is doing? (other than helping to keep the house warm this winter :D ).

2. Will repeat #1 on Hers soon, anything special I have to do, so they don't clobber/nullify/confuse each other, and how do I tell? :shrug:
Thanks MikeE

[chipmonk010]

u can keep track of ur progress when d2ol is installed as a service with this program.
http://homepages.opencominc.com/smichael/dspy.html

welcome to the team! :toast:

[Rodzilla]

u can keep track of ur progress when d2ol is installed as a service with this program.
http://homepages.opencominc.com/smichael/dspy.html

welcome to the team! :toast:

I've noticed you around the D2OL boards helping out quite a bit! I for one really appreciate it!

I've seen quite a bit of people stepping up for that matter. :up:

It really helps take a lot of the pressure off of Jeff and I... I always feel bad when I get too busy to check the boards and someone has posted a question... and it sits there for 12, 24 or more hours :( Thanks for backing us up! And anyone that knows the answer to a question or problem please do not hesitate to assist! I promise I won't feel like you are taking my glory! I just want to make sure everyone gets all the help they need... and as quickly as possible! Thanks!

[chipmonk010]

I've noticed you around the D2OL boards helping out quite a bit! I for one really appreciate it!

I've seen quite a bit of people stepping up for that matter. :up:

It really helps take a lot of the pressure off of Jeff and I... I always feel bad when I get too busy to check the boards and someone has posted a question... and it sits there for 12, 24 or more hours :( Thanks for backing us up! And anyone that knows the answer to a question or problem please do not hesitate to assist! I promise I won't feel like you are taking my glory! I just want to make sure everyone gets all the help they need... and as quickly as possible! Thanks!

no problem man, u helped me out its only fair :D

[shadowing]

I try too. But I don't know that much. :)

[Rodzilla]

I try too. But I don't know that much. :)

You were one of those helpful ones I was speaking of! :up: Keep it up!

[[XC] moddolicous]

Will a high end video card make a big difference in output. I want to know because if it makes a big difference, than I might think about upgrading this one.

[Rodzilla]

Will a high end video card make a big difference in output. I want to know because if it makes a big difference, than I might think about upgrading this one.

Won't help at all...

[Disposibleteen]

Will a high end video card make a big difference in output. I want to know because if it makes a big difference, than I might think about upgrading this one.

yea if you are hungry for more cands you should invest in a better CPU, if understand right this progg loves high end procs and tight mem timings

[jjcom]

Yeah, a nice fast processor, even an AXP doesn't do half bad, since I'm running on and it doesn't do half bad lol. Yeah if you want more cans, get a higher end processor or just overclock more :D

jjcom

[shadowing]

How much can an overclocked FX-55 do? :D

If only I can set up my other rig...stupid Linux.

[jjcom]

Quite a few would be my guess, how big of an overclock

jjcom

[shadowing]

Like 100%. I'm guessing a LOT!!

[jjcom]

Someone awhile back I think was using an FX-53 and they figured out how many aday they were doing...something like 200 I believe...or was 250...I can't remember

jjcom

[shadowing]

Candidates? Cause that's a lot!!! Man, I'd love to get my other rig up. But stupid gkrellm isn't detecting temps...

[Plum Ugly]

OK,I got a question that I havn't seen the answer for.I installed it on a twin amd setup. I installed 2 instances of D2Q in different folders. it seems that only 1 is starting.WHAT did I do wrong? I've looked and looked but the instructions for a twin setup are not very clear.(Glad I'm not tring to do it on a linux system!)

[jjcom]

sounds like its trying to run both on CPU0 rather than D2OL on CPU0 and D2OLa on CPU1. Not really quite sure how to make it run correctly everyboot up. Can you move the task to the other processor

jjcom

[[XC] moddolicous]

Did u use Rodzilla's easy installer? Did u install it in 2 differernt places (ie C: and C:/new folder) or something like that. The twin amd, is it opteron or just xp?

[Plum Ugly]

Twin xp. I installed in C and in D,OK got them running.
I'm just gonna run this system to see what it's like. May convert more over later,just depends on how things work with it.The twin Op's will stay on fad.Just ordered parts for 6 twin intel systems.It all depends on how things run with it

[[XC] serlv]

Welcome to the team, Plum! I noticed your name in the Free-DC stats site; coming in at team member position 110.

Not sure who 109 is, but welcome to you, too.


Scott

[jjcom]

hey, could you try out D2OL on your dual Opteron? No big deal if you can't, a few questions have come up lately about how many cans one of those can do

thanks
jjcom

[Rodzilla]

Twin xp. I installed in C and in D,OK got them running.
I'm just gonna run this system to see what it's like. May convert more over later,just depends on how things work with it.The twin Op's will stay on fad.Just ordered parts for 6 twin intel systems.It all depends on how things run with it

What did you do to solve it? Maybe it can help someone else in the future?

[Plum Ugly]

I renamed the second install icon in the startup folder. I must say there's not much info on setting up a twin install that I could find.I didn't use the script install because of the troubles I read about on the D2Q forums and the common team install. WOW what a mess!!!! That made me a bit leary of installing D2Q,The way The D2Q management and mods re acted to your posts makes me wonder about the commitment on their part.NOT KOOL!!!
Anyway when I installed the second node it replaced the first nodes icon in the startup folder.

[Rodzilla]

I renamed the second install icon in the startup folder. I must say there's not much info on setting up a twin install that I could find.I didn't use the script install because of the troubles I read about on the D2Q forums and the common team install. WOW what a mess!!!! That made me a bit leary of installing D2Q,The way The D2Q management and mods re acted to your posts makes me wonder about the commitment on their part.NOT KOOL!!!
Anyway when I installed the second node it replaced the first nodes icon in the startup folder.

D2Q? you mean D2OL?

If so I think you are referring to this thread?
http://www.d2ol.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000726

This issue has been resolved and only applied to the community account installers. It's perfectly safe to use them... that applies to the personal node installers as well.

If you are worried about any lack of support from using the installers, Don't worry. As for kb9skw's comments at the end of the thread... He doesn’t represent D2OL... He's a member of team Ars Technica and I know for a fact that my installer has been used there...

He cannot act without prodigious being he is on a team that is soon to be steam rolled by XS ;)

So fear not about support... There is more than enough knowledge here so that you will never need to touch the official D2OL boards. And if you must seek help at the D2Ol forums you will get help. There not going to refuse to support there own app. That would just be silly. :rolleyes:

[Plum Ugly]

sorry,I meant D2OL. I'm not worried about support here,I meant being a newbie to D2OL and reading the responce from the D2OL admin made me think of the old UD days.Sorta like shut up an don't bother us.
I was researching info on the program there as I did here.The better I understand it the better I can make it work per system.

[[XC] moddolicous]

I have a problem. I try to manually update D2OL, and it says that it has an error connecting to the server. I'll wait the 6hours and see if that changes. Any ideas y?

[Jeff]

I tried connecting a couple hours ago and got the same thing. :shrug: Looks like the servers are down atm.

[Rodzilla]

I tried connecting a couple hours ago and got the same thing. :shrug: Looks like the servers are down atm.

I confirm this... I have buffers! :D

[[XC] serlv]

Well hopefully it will be down less than 24 hours, better yet, much less.

I have 500 on each machine, 600 on some. That is at least 3 days worth, but I worry about others, who may have not heeded the advice to get at least 200...

[Rodzilla]

If it's not up in a couple hours It will definitely be up in the morning. Unless Jeff melted another D2OL server :rolleyes:

:dammit: Jeff!!!!

[shadowing]

If it's not up in a couple hours It will definitely be up in the morning. Unless Jeff melted another D2OL server :rolleyes:

:dammit: Jeff!!!!

LOL What happened to you, Rodzilla?

[Rodzilla]

LOL What happened to you, Rodzilla?

:confused: :confused: :confused: What?

[alcabam]

Hi all,

I am thinking that is time to change my PR440FX MB with an ASUS PC-DL. Jeff's thread on how to build a rig using 1.6 GHz LV processors is really helpful. However, I found a good deal on a pair of 1.7 GHz/400/256/1.73V processors http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51055&item=6741054172&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

My questions are:
1. Can I use those processors to build a PC-DL workstation. ASUS recommends processors 1.8GHz and above to be used.
2. Can you overclock a 1.73V processor like this type of xeon?
3. Besides 1.6GHz LV processors, what other processors can you use on this motherboard? Are 603 pin processors working? Can you overclock them?

Thank you all for your time.

[jjcom]

No, don't get those. Those would be Willimate based meaning 180nm. So their pretty old processors. I don't know if they would work in that board. They're pretty old chips so I'm not sure if ASUS supports 'em

jjcom

[Rodzilla]

Hi all,

I am thinking that is time to change my PR440FX MB with an ASUS PC-DL. Jeff's thread on how to build a rig using 1.6 GHz LV processors is really helpful. However, I found a good deal on a pair of 1.7 GHz/400/256/1.73V processors http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51055&item=6741054172&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

My questions are:
1. Can I use those processors to build a PC-DL workstation. ASUS recommends processors 1.8GHz and above to be used.
2. Can you overclock a 1.73V processor like this type of xeon?
3. Besides 1.6GHz LV processors, what other processors can you use on this motherboard? Are 603 pin processors working? Can you overclock them?

Thank you all for your time.

Those chips are not LV... and if they are 603 they will not work in this board... get the 1.6GHz LV chips

[alcabam]

Thanks guys! Rodzilla, do any 603 pin processors work with PC-DL motherboard? Let's say 2.2GHz or even 2.4GHz 400 FSB? This MB afte rall is a 603/604 pin board isn't it?

[Rodzilla]

The board is officially a 604 pin board...

I'm not sure if 603 chips will work in it or not. Someone will be able to answer this better than I.

[Plum Ugly]

Again I got a couple of questions.
Those with 15 or more systems networked have any problem with D2OL slowing down the network when uploading? I have several that is slowing down my satillite hookup when uploading.
And what is the best air cooler setup for the PC-DL mb.

[Rodzilla]

Again I got a couple of questions.
Those with 15 or more systems networked have any problem with D2OL slowing down the network when uploading? I have several that is slowing down my satillite hookup when uploading.
And what is the best air cooler setup for the PC-DL mb.

D2OL uses very little internet bandwidth.... It shouldn't be slowing it down. i would schedule all of your nodes to upload/download at once if you are having problems...

For the PC-DL the Swiftech coolers look good. MCX603-V

[Big Deel]

I have 1 node that will still download and work,but they are not uploading.
Is there a way to manually up load or a file to save and reinstall so I don't lose my candidates ?.I have the whole folder saved and allready know how to restore the node (node.prp).

[Rodzilla]

First off... <<<<Congratz on the new baby!!!!!!!!! :toast:

Yes you can manually upload... i take it that you are running it as a service.

If so then...
Go to the service manager (Right click on your My Computer icon on the desktop and select Manage. At the bottom you should see Services...) Stop the XS_D2OL1 service.

Now go to the task manager and stop the Gridwin.exe (or Dockwin.exe) Do it for all of them if you used a multiple node installer (XS_D2OL1, XS_D2OL2 ect.)

Now go to the "C:\XS_D2OL\D2OL1\D2OL" and open D2OL.exe. this will start it in the sys tray...

Right click on the sys tray icon and select Status. There you will see "Manual update"

----------

If you are just running it as normal then just right click on the sys tray icon and select Status. There you will see "Manual update"

[Big Deel]

Ok tried that and this is what I get

Error Uploading task results. 0 of 388 were successfully upploaded
Error talking to servlet
Info:Response code: 500. response msg: internal server error

Is there a folder that has my cands in it that I can copy to a new install ?

[Rodzilla]

Unfortunatly no...

It sounds like you have a software firewall blocking it. Disable the firewall and try it.

[shadowing]

What firewall are you using? Are you using a router? If it's a router, that may be a problem. It also would depend on your firewall software.

[Big Deel]

Nothing has changed on my network or machine ...I did no updates...same router settings as was using.I even copied to a different machine and it works the same way ?
It just started buffering,it will download the totall queue size and dock and comform just will not upload.

O well time to reinstall a new copy and get back to 100% production
I saved the folder to try and play around to get my 388 back :banana:

[Rodzilla]

You live real close to me... burn the installation to CD and mail it to me... PM me if you are interested and I'll send my mailing address.

I'm sure I can get that uploaded for you...

[Rodzilla]

You live real close to me... burn the installation to CD and mail it to me... PM me if you are interested and I'll send my mailing address.

I'm sure I can get that uploaded for you...

Better yet... zip it and e-mail it to me!!!! :doh: SRodman at mchsi dot com

[Rodzilla]

What firewall are you using? Are you using a router? If it's a router, that may be a problem. It also would depend on your firewall software.

The router won't touch it... D2OL uses port 80...

From the D2OL FAQ
Q: I see port ### always open. Why? What ports does it really need?
A: The only port D2OL uses to communicate with our servers is port 80. However, there are two comman ports that work as loopbacks. One random port that will open in order to connect the engine with the GUI and another that exists to communicate with screensaver mode. These ports never access the internet and only exist locally. While they may report false hits on a local software firewall, a hardware firewall will not see this activity.

[shmaa]

ok, I'm sure this has been asked before and it's a good bet it's somewhere in all these stickies at least twice.. but I'm at work and don't have time to search... :stick:

What exactly are "nodes"? Is it good or bad (or doesn't it matter) to combine multiple crunching rigs under 1 node?

[Disposibleteen]

nodes are the instances of D2OL that youve registered under your name. You can make multiple instances one node and it wont make a difference.

[shmaa]

ok 1 more newbie question... how often does the client upload result by default on an always-on internet connection? does it do it as soon as it finishes one?

[Rodzilla]

ok 1 more newbie question... how often does the client upload result by default on an always-on internet connection? does it do it as soon as it finishes one?

It's set to upload every 6 hrs.

[charlie]

is there a "speed" indicator somewhere to help aid in tweaking and comparing different rigs/processors?????

[Rodzilla]

is there a "speed" indicator somewhere to help aid in tweaking and comparing different rigs/processors?????

Unfortunately no... :( You will have to just watch your stats and tweak little by little.

[shmaa]

Quick question also.. I used to run folding@home for XS.. why D2OL over F@H?.. does XS even still fold?

[shadowing]

I hate F@H now. I used to do it. Too much competition. Takes up a lot of ram. And I think XS still does.

[Jeff]

The only problem I have with F@H is that you don't own your work... the team you are on does. And actually it's the person that starts a team that owns it.

Not fun in case you want to move around or if the team decides to go in a direction you no longer wish to follow. :shrug:

[Disposibleteen]

this is true, i really loved SETI, u did get to own your work but i couldnt find a team i liked to i got out of it and came to D2OL

[Jeff]

Phoenix Rising was my SETI@Home team and the place where I really got into the online world. That team was the absolute best around 4 or 5 years ago right after they formed. Now I'm just not into SETI@Home or BOINC so I put all my resources into medical type projects. D2OL is one of the easiest DC projects I've run. It's very handsoff which is nice. ;)

[shadowing]

And a great benefit is that you help out people. :) I'd rather help instead of search for aliens. :D

[Rodzilla]

Yea we still have a team for F@H... but D2OL is way more popular here... Our F@H team is all but dead :(

[Helheim]

Right now my Athlon XP-M, which I have running at 2Ghz, is out performing my P4 3.06Ghz (HT enabled) with two instances. Does that seem right?

Has anyone noticed that while running D2OL certain things are kind of choppy, ie trying to change the screen saver?

Also is it better to run 4 instances on a dual xeon with HT or 2? Would two AMD 2800+ Sempron computers perform better than a single dual xeon 1.6GHz (maybe running around 3Ghz) machine.

Thanks.

[faruquehabib]

my sempron 2200+ @ stock outperforms my p4 520 @ 2975MHz (two instances) as well

[Rodzilla]

Right now my Athlon XP-M, which I have running at 2Ghz, is out performing my P4 3.06Ghz (HT enabled) with two instances. Does that seem right?

Has anyone noticed that while running D2OL certain things are kind of choppy, ie trying to change the screen saver?

Also is it better to run 4 instances on a dual eon with HT or 2? Would two AMD 2800+ Sempron computers perform better than a single dual xeon 1.6GHz (maybe running around 3Ghz) machine.

Thanks.

A dual Xeon Machine would out perform 2 Semphron rigs... an Xeon rig would probably cost less too.

I take it your P4 is a 533MHz bus chip... I would expect the XP-M to do a little better... depending on what the XP-M is running at.

And it is definitely better to run 4 clients on a dual Xeon rig with HT! It will make a big difference!

[Jeff]

How many candidates are your Sempron rigs putting out? I'm a bit shocked that they are doing more than your P4?

[Rodzilla]

Has anyone noticed that while running D2OL certain things are kind of choppy, ie trying to change the screen saver?

A program called D2OL Daddy will fix that.

http://gilchrist.ca/jeff/D2OLdaddy/

[Helheim]

I have D2OL Daddy installed, I used your script :). Most things are fine I just finds it's a few things that it happens with, ie changing screen savers.

Yeap it's a 533MHz(133Mhz) bus chip and I do have the XP-M(2400+) running at 200Mhz.

[Rodzilla]

I have D2OL Daddy installed, I used your script :). Most things are fine I just finds it's a few things that it happens with, ie changing screen savers.

Yeap it's a 533MHz(133Mhz) bus chip and I do have the XP-M(2400+) running at 200Mhz.

It would seem that D2OL Daddy won't work as a service... you have to run it manually from the "C:\XS_D2OL\D2OL Daddy" folder...

You can disable the service in the service manager (Right click on the my computer icon and select manage... go to services and disable ddaddy)

That should fix it.

[Ashe]

little question here:
Where can i check how many candidates i have completed so far?
The "status-window" tells me i completed 108 cands, but it seems as if my last upload (22 tasks) isn`t included.
On free-dc.org it shows me (nick silence) the "right" number of 130 cands and my last update of 22.
So is it a bug or something? :confused:
Which number of cands is right?

[Disposibleteen]

do you have 2 instances running or one? The status window shows how many cands have been completed by that particular node

[Ashe]

Only one instance installed and running :stick:

[faruquehabib]

How many candidates are your Sempron rigs putting out? I'm a bit shocked that they are doing more than your P4?

my sempron puts out just over 100 a day. smae with the p4. it is close, but the sempron gets like 2 or 3 more. the sempron just crunches all day though, i dont touch it. i use the p4 as my main computer, so i am on it alot

[Disposibleteen]

Only one instance installed and running :stick:
no other nodes at all?? Maybe the status display takes a while to update?

[Ashe]

no other nodes at all?? Maybe the status display takes a while to update?
nothing
Still only 108 Cands displayed, but doesn`t matter as long as they go to the xs.org team, i don`t need 'em at home anyway :D

[Helheim]

Is it that D2OL Daddy won't work as a service or that it can't change the priority of the D2OL.exe process or DocWin.exe process when they are running as a service? I've notice that when these processes are running as a service I can't even manually go it and change their priority. If I don't run them as a service it's not a problem though.

[Rodzilla]

Is it that D2OL Daddy won't work as a service or that it can't change the priority of the D2OL.exe process or DocWin.exe process when they are running as a service? I've notice that when these processes are running as a service I can't even manually go it and change their priority. If I don't run them as a service it's not a problem though.

No... it's D2OL Daddy. It dosn't work as a service. If you run it manually in the sys tray it works fine with the Agents running as services.

I'm still trying to find a fix for this but haven't been able to come up with one yet.

[shmaa]

How can I tell how much time I have left until the 6 hours are up and a node is ready to make a dump?

[Rodzilla]

How can I tell how much time I have left until the 6 hours are up and a node is ready to make a dump?

You can use DSpy to see when you last uploaded if you have it running as a service...

Or if you are running it as normal... just right click on the D2OL icon in the sys tray and select status... at the bottom it will show you the next scheduled update.

[shmaa]

ahh ok.. the stats server is down.. i thought i missed something because i thought it was time for an upload

thanks

[lv_dicedealer]

It would seem that D2OL Daddy won't work as a service... you have to run it manually from the "C:\XS_D2OL\D2OL Daddy" folder...

You can disable the service in the service manager (Right click on the my computer icon and select manage... go to services and disable ddaddy)

That should fix it.

Am I missing something.... it runs fine on my dually xeon rig as a service. When did this come about?

[Rodzilla]

It's always been this way :( It looks like it works... but if you look at your task manager (after you add the "Base Priority" column) D2OL.exe is running at normal priority... it should be low.

[shadowing]

Rodzilla, is there any way to manipulate the D2OL daddy, so more ram is used?

Does this mean more production?

[Rodzilla]

Rodzilla, is there any way to manipulate the D2OL daddy, so more ram is used?

Does this mean more production?
D2OL Daddy isn't open source... so don't go getting yourself in trouble or we all get to laugh at you and publicly stone you :D

I'm not sure if more mem allocated to D2OL would help... D2OL already allocates enough mem to calculate the current Candidate.

If anything it would be cool to find a way to make D2OL use less RAM... that way you can safely run it on a PC with limited system resources...

[Charloz24]

Ok here's my noob question :D

I'm a ex-folder (I fold for about 1year and a half) and I quitted folding for 1 reason only: internet use. I'm on dial-up and I have only one phone line at home that also serve as business line. The problem was that folding was quite using my phone line with 3 p4 rig running 24hr/7days.

So what about D2OL?? Is it the same? Did it send and receive a lot of data or not? Remember, I'm on dial-up and 1MB file is A LOT of data for me!! :dammit:

[jjcom]

If you upload every 6 hours then it won't be too bad....you could upload only on the weekend maybe? I'm on dialup as well and it doesn't seem to bad, unless the server had gone down and i'm stuck uploading 300+cans or something. But normally it doesn't seem too bad

jjcom

[[XC] moddolicous]

Something you could do is set your quene size to 2000, and run the node offline till the weekend and then upload. What system are u running it on?

[Charloz24]

Ok then it's not the same as folding! Because with folding, if I do not upload, the work stop.

My system is a winnie @ 2700mhz with 1 gig of ram.

[[XC] serlv]

My Winnie at 2.6 does about 140-150 per day. If you set your queue size to 2000 that would mean you'd ned to connect once every 13 or 14 days. That upload would take a bit, but you'd only need to connect then.

[Charloz24]

Well then here I go!

[heater918]

hi, would like to join team, do i pick EZ installer community account? After install i then register? Is node # provided automatically? Any tips would be appreciated.I will chose 2x.for my system.Thank you.
(as you can probably tell alot of unused cycles going to waist here) DSL connection.

[Helheim]

If you want to register your own node you have to use the personal installer.

[heater918]

thanks, never could find where to register nodes? had 2 icons by clock opened up & got node # saw no place to register. Rebooted now no icons but services say there running. I used personal installer.

[Helheim]

If you used the personal installer it should have accessed you for an email address, did it do that? If not are you sure you didn't use the community one? If you did enter an email address then you have to go to www.d2ol.com and register a new user then you can add the node you created.

[heater918]

checked it was personal installer, must be doing something wrong i never see prompt for e mail registration

It might be that i used community install first, read your post uninstalled community & installed personal. Might be crossed up there.should i Uninstall from from program or use add-remove?

Thanks for helping, i did not remove first install properly all's good now.

[Rodzilla]

checked it was personal installer, must be doing something wrong i never see prompt for e mail registration

It might be that i used community install first, read your post uninstalled community & installed personal. Might be crossed up there.should i Uninstall from from program or use add-remove?

Thanks for helping, i did not remove first install properly all's good now.

What happened? What went wrong?

[heater918]

Rodzilla, I installed community first & Helheim mentioned personal installer so i uninstalled community with uninstaller & failed to also use add/ remove programs in windows before installing personal. So i guess i stll had some pieces remaing from the community install? When i removed both properly personal installer worked fine. Hope you understand.
All is going fine now, Superdude & me are bringing up the rear end we have that covered, so other members only have to look foreward.

[Rodzilla]

Rodzilla, I installed community first & Helheim mentioned personal installer so i uninstalled community with uninstaller & failed to also use add/ remove programs in windows before installing personal. So i guess i stll had some pieces remaing from the community install? When i removed both properly personal installer worked fine. Hope you understand.
All is going fine now, Superdude & me are bringing up the rear end we have that covered, so other members only have to look foreward.

I get it. Thanks. What made you mistakenly use the community installer? Is my wording off? Or just too confusing?

[heater918]

It is a good guide if you follow it. I installed than read,definatly the user's fault here.
I have crashed & trashed windows so many times i have to get b. gates personal ok to reinstall. :bsod:

[Rodzilla]

It is a good guide if you follow it. I installed than read,definatly the user's fault here.
I have crashed & trashed windows so many times i have to get b. gates personal ok to reinstall. :bsod:

:lol: Ok... I just wanted to make sure I wasn't speaking greek or something.

[heater918]

1 question about installing 2 copys of D2OL.
i pretty sure of how to except the part of creating new (folder?) in directory labled D20L2. Where to put it. Is it program files.

[Rodzilla]

If you are just installing D2OL with the stock/official installer then you can create the Dir anywhere you want. And just install D2OL to that lo-cal.

[heater918]

ok,i can do that. If i have 2 is it right that i can run 1 all the time & 2 when i'm not using comp.

[Rodzilla]

ok,i can do that. If i have 2 is it right that i can run 1 all the time & 2 when i'm not using comp.

You can use both all the time. They are set to low priority so as soon as you start using the PC D2OL moves out of the way and you get all the CPU cycles you need. Be sure to use D2OL Daddy too.

Once you stop using the PC D2OL will kick back up to 100% :up:

[Helheim]

If you have the .NET framework installed you can use D2OL XtremeWatchDog (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54357) instead of D2OL Daddy as well. :D

[heater918]

I have .NET for Ghost 9, is there any benefits of Watchdog?
I have so many questions because i will be reinstalling in next week or so and i would like to get XP & my basic programs installed such as D2OL so i can make a basic drive image before i load graphic drivers and other app's.

[Helheim]

Xtreme Watch Dog is designed to run as a service and gives you a bit more control, if you want it via a settings file. So it depends if you want something that runs as a service out of the way or not really.

[Rodzilla]

Xtreme WatchDog is what all the cool kids use! :cool:

[heater918]

if that is true i'm sure i must allready have it somewhere :D Seriously with the help i have been getting i don't think i will be ofline very long at all. I need to ask help in in harddrive area to straighten out my drive image problem, and i'll be all set.

edit: just checked my stats, this 3.4 is doing some major crunching, glad to put it to work doing some good.

[enzoR]

hmm ok i installed 2 nodes useing the installer. after it installed everthing was fine and i could see the 2 d2ol icons in my taskbar. when i restarted my pc they are now gone. how do i open the GUI? [/n00b]

[jjcom]

It might show up if you go to start and then find D2OL and run it from there. Or just find the .exe in the home directory

jjcom

[[XC] moddolicous]

I have an old node (accidentally loaded D2OL twice, so one of the nodes isnt being used). When I load D2OL on another machine, would I delete that current node.prp and load mine, or do I have to do something differently.

[jjcom]

If the not in use node has NOT been regitured, then yes do that. if it has, install D2OL on the other computer and copy over the node.prp file

jjcom

[[XC] moddolicous]

yea, the node was registered. I thought I did it wrong, so I reloaded it, and found out I had already done it correctly. So, all I do is load D2OL and then copy over the node.prp. Thanks for your help.

[jjcom]

yep, basicly, just replace the node.prp file that is made when D2OL installs and use the "old" one

jjcom

[heater918]

http://tn-d2ol-stats.homeip.net/teamlist?location=XtremeSystems my stats show up on this, but i don't think it put me down as a new member.Is this because i used installer on D2OL home page (not ezinstaller). Will this not show my milestone things such as passed 500 etc.No problem as i'm on the team just curious.

[Rodzilla]

http://tn-d2ol-stats.homeip.net/teamlist?location=XtremeSystems my stats show up on this, but i don't think it put me down as a new member.Is this because i used installer on D2OL home page (not ezinstaller). Will this not show my milestone things such as passed 500 etc.No problem as i'm on the team just curious.

It has you down as a new member... (You are only in the new member list for a week) And yes it will track all of your stats & milestones just like anyone else’s.

[krille]

what's up with team Norway anyway? i'm swedish, so i'd love to see us beat them bad. soon.

also i've started "folding" (what do you call D2OL-ing??) today, for your cause. My node is my father's A64 workstation hehe... gonna add my own computer (and new rig) when I get them.

[Rodzilla]

what's up with team Norway anyway? i'm swedish, so i'd love to see us beat them bad. soon.

also i've started "folding" (what do you call D2OL-ing??) today, for your cause. My node is my father's A64 workstation hehe... gonna add my own computer (and new rig) when I get them.

D2OL-ing is Crunching! :up:

And welcome to the team!!!!! We will be taking team norway down very soon.

[krille]

Excellent ... let the crunching begin! :D

[faruquehabib]

how do i check if i have any candidates saved up on my hard drive? and how do i add them to be uploaded?

[Rodzilla]

how do i check if i have any candidates saved up on my hard drive? and how do i add them to be uploaded?

As long as you are on the internet your clients will auto upload every 6 hrs. They won't them unless you have your Agents set to run offline.

[Paladin]

how do i check if i have any candidates saved up on my hard drive? and how do i add them to be uploaded?

Every time you restart D2OL it will upload any completed candidate packets that were left on your HD when you shut it down. You can see how many results a running D2OL client has by opening the java agent or right-click on the tray icon, choose "Status...", then click "Manual Udate".

D2OL isn't buggy like DF was by losing track of results.

[Rodzilla]

D2OL isn't buggy like DF was by losing track of results.

Not true... Your resultQueue.dat can get corrupt and you won't be able to upload... or your queue can just totally disappear! :eek:

[Paladin]

Not true... Your resultQueue.dat can get corrupt and you won't be able to upload... or your queue can just totally disappear! :eek:

Heh, never ever happened to me on this project. On DF it seemed like I had to manually fix the upload list at least once a week on every machine. Ergo D2OL "not like DF". ;) (Semantics.) :stick:

[Rodzilla]

Heh, never ever happened to me on this project. On DF it seemed like I had to manually fix the upload list at least once a week on every machine. Ergo D2OL "not like DF". ;) (Semantics.) :stick:

True! ;) you got me there!

[FROG]

I am new member. I am also new to folding and what it does. I have 4 systems at home and one that is on 24/7 as a weather station that uploads data every 15 minutes and thats it. So i'm thinking that system would be a good canidate. However not sure what this d2ol does and folding is all about and if there is a security issue? Thanks for any info. Ohya does a fast or powerful system really help? dual Ops 4 gb ram RAID0 and over 900G HDD space? is this overkill?... Just a thought as I have the parts..
Sorry for the PM Jeff....

[[XC] moddolicous]

I am new member. I am also new to folding and what it does. I have 4 systems at home and one that is on 24/7 as a weather station that uploads data every 15 minutes and thats it. So i'm thinking that system would be a good canidate. However not sure what this d2ol does and folding is all about and if there is a security issue? Thanks for any info. Ohya does a fast or powerful system really help? dual Ops 4 gb ram RAID0 and over 900G HDD space? is this overkill?... Just a thought as I have the parts..
Sorry for the PM Jeff....
D2OL uses your cpu's extra cpu clocks to help find cures for diseases. It is usually set to the lowest priority so that it doesnt interfere with other cpu intensive programs. It uploads every 6 hours. Nothing is overkill for D2OL. There is not such thing. Raw megahertz looks to be the best. DTW, I dont think we have mny people here with opterons.

[Rodzilla]

I am new member. I am also new to folding and what it does. I have 4 systems at home and one that is on 24/7 as a weather station that uploads data every 15 minutes and thats it. So i'm thinking that system would be a good canidate. However not sure what this d2ol does and folding is all about and if there is a security issue? Thanks for any info. Ohya does a fast or powerful system really help? dual Ops 4 gb ram RAID0 and over 900G HDD space? is this overkill?... Just a thought as I have the parts..
Sorry for the PM Jeff....

To add to what mod said... There are no known security risk for running D2OL... it uses port 80 so there are no special ports open to run D2OL.

[[XC] moddolicous]

To add to what mod said... There are no known security risk for running D2OL... it uses port 80 so there are no special ports open to run D2OL.
yea, forgot that point, thanks.

[FROG]

Thanks .. So port 80??? So if I am ethered in a network it will work using that line?? or Do I need to config something?

[Rodzilla]

Thanks .. So port 80??? So if I am ethered in a network it will work using that line?? or Do I need to config something?

Port 80 is network talk for the port that all html communications take place... it's the port you hit the internet through when you are browsing the internet or downloading a file... or uploading weather stats.

[FROG]

Port 80 is network talk for the port that all html communications take place... it's the port you hit the internet through when you are browsing the internet or downloading a file... or uploading weather stats.
Roger that.. It sounded fimiliar.. Well I have the weather station running and cleaned up all un-needed Win garb is gone.Its not much A64 3000, 1g 3200Xl mem, 40g hdd but it has a fast network hookup... So off we go to download and get crackin.. I have installed the AMD Dual Op board may have it up and running this weekend.....Thanks for the help...

[[XC] moddolicous]

Good to have u on the team. This is a general question, but on his dual opteron setup, would he put 2 installs on there, right. I'm pretty sure u would load it twice. Wait for a more certain answer before u do it.

[FROG]

Well my Weatherstation computer is up and running XS_D2ol1 and the daddy program I believe.. Not sure on how to monitor it or if my user name is associated with it or not. So any help would be appreciated.. Man hope this little system can take it.. My CPU usage is at 100% during idle...PF Usage is 232M..I might have to open the case cover and turn an extra fan on...

[krille]

I've got a newbie question: Why just set it to download 200 tasks at a time? Why not 2000 (max) or somewhere in between? I myself am sitting on a 10/10 connection and hd space isn't a problem either. How many tasks do you suggest I enter?

:toast:

[Rodzilla]

As many as you can 2000! :up:

[[XC] moddolicous]

I've got a newbie question: Why just set it to download 200 tasks at a time? Why not 2000 (max) or somewhere in between? I myself am sitting on a 10/10 connection and hd space isn't a problem either. How many tasks do you suggest I enter?

:toast:
The more the better, because although they dont happen alot, sometimes the task servers go down, and we can be stuck with only the cands that we downloaded.

[Magnj]

OK, I run this at night after I go to bed but mommy usualy turns it off before the next update. ANyway to change the update interval or is there some way I can have it save the work i did, because I think I lost a lot on Cands last night before it got updated...

[jjcom]

it saves the work you've done. If you exit out of the program and reenter, all the cans you had done are still there. You can run a maual update so it uploads what you have done tho.

jjcom

[krille]

Ok, thanks all! Gonna change it to 2000 then. :thumbsup:

[Rodzilla]

Thanks to moddolicous and jjcom for helping out! :up: That's what makes this team so great!

[heater918]

back up after reinstall. .prp backup went smooth thanks to very good guide & very helpful members. I had a bad feeling while down, kinda like sports when you let your team down.Hopefully get back to my 100+ soon.Would like to increase that. When i get this rig under water i will be able to put 2.4c@3.1 up on line.

[Rodzilla]

back up after reinstall. .prp backup went smooth thanks to very good guide & very helpful members. I had a bad feeling while down, kinda like sports when you let your team down.Hopefully get back to my 100+ soon.Would like to increase that. When i get this rig under water i will be able to put 2.4c@3.1 up on line.

No need to ever feel bad about your output! :up: As long as you do what you can... and for as long as you can... we are greatfull! :up:

[heater918]

I've lost my new install, everything was fine no issues & no oc. I was on XS looking for the eggs when screen flickered & than a reboot, BIOS screen came up & showed damaged raid array. I have used western digital's diag.tool and i checked it again shows no problem with raptors. This started in Nov. after a power outage i have had problems since. Started with hang on welcome screen than it would go to black no BSOD,after trying different things i was unplugging periferals & when i unpluged printer it booted fine so i thought i had a driver issue removed driver & reinstalled new driver seemed to work fine, than for no reason keyboard quit,it started working after reboot.
This leads up to the last install when i used ghost9 to image clean install with only basic drivers etc. So when it crashed surfing web i ghosted copy with no problems worked 1 day & did the same exact thing flickered & rebooted to damaged raid array. I,m on my 2nd. ghost reinstall for 3 day's now working normal? The only error message has to do with pnp windows drivers that are loaded with XP is it possible that my XP disk is some how flawed or damaged?
Sorry if this makes no sense & is long but this is just driveing me crazy not to mention my production has gone to sh##. :brick:

[[XC] serlv]

Are the drives still under warranty? Perhaps it is best bet to RMA. After what you've done with the fresh install and all, and then you're having the same problems with it? Sounds like hardware to me.

How does a substitute hdd work? Do you have one That way you can isolate it to the HDDs.

ter to replace them.I've lost my new install, everything was fine no issues & no oc. I was on XS looking for the eggs when screen flickered & than a reboot, BIOS screen came up & showed damaged raid array. I have used western digital's diag.tool and i checked it again shows no problem with raptors. This started in Nov. after a power outage i have had problems since. Started with hang on welcome screen than it would go to black no BSOD,after trying different things i was unplugging periferals & when i unpluged printer it booted fine so i thought i had a driver issue removed driver & reinstalled new driver seemed to work fine, than for no reason keyboard quit,it started working after reboot.
This leads up to the last install when i used ghost9 to image clean install with only basic drivers etc. So when it crashed surfing web i ghosted copy with no problems worked 1 day & did the same exact thing flickered & rebooted to damaged raid array. I,m on my 2nd. ghost reinstall for 3 day's now working normal? The only error message has to do with pnp windows drivers that are loaded with XP is it possible that my XP disk is some how flawed or damaged?
Sorry if this makes no sense & is long but this is just driveing me crazy not to mention my production has gone to sh##. :brick:

[heater918]

Drives are warranted for 3 more yrs. The way i understand there diag. program it checks for problems than makes report if there are any issues involving drives the report is allready in there data base ser.# etc. it comes out clean. Not 100% sure but according to W.D. there is no rma issue.
I'm leaning towards this PNP plugnplay issue because of the USB printer & keyboard problem, that also includes drives right?
These drives are 36g. Raptors in raid 0 with 110g.seagate for backup.I have had them in raid0 & run seperatly in past with no problems.
I use same raid driver in F6.
It seems to work now for 3 days on this ghost image(same image that crashed after 1 day). I have a 10g. partition on backup that i could install OS on & double chek drives i just thought with testing i had eliminated drives.

[[XC] serlv]

Yeah, I understand how they want you to run their diag. apps. But still, even if there is no problem ( according to their app ) reported, BUT the problem remains, then I'd insist on an RMA.

That is [i]if[/i/ you can isolate the drives as causing the problem. If you can do that, and eliminate the PNP driver thing as being the thing,then I don't see how they can refuse you.

[heater918]

Thanks Serly i appreciate your input. I agree it sounds like a drive problem. That windows error p.n.p. thing could have been caused by ghosting, the fix was slipstreaming drivers in. That error has not happened again. I will try a 30 day install on my backup & if ok will do as you suggest.

Edit The problem that Boshi caused with browser, I.E. crashing etc. Would that maybe have caused my latest problem as i was looking at old post both times. Just a shot in the dark as i assume that was cleared up and i've been fully updayed all along. :confused:

[FROG]

Quick question... What is buffering.and how do you set it up. Does it do anything worthwhile?

[jjcom]

Its so you can have a backup of cans ready to go incase someone over takes you. Like you could set one rig to run offline and it would just start storing up completed cans. Then when the time is ready you dump. Nice surprise, esp. if its 2000cans :D

jjcom

[FROG]

Its so you can have a backup of cans ready to go incase someone over takes you. Like you could set one rig to run offline and it would just start storing up completed cans. Then when the time is ready you dump. Nice surprise, esp. if its 2000cans :D

jjcom
thanks jj, wasn't sure kinda thought it was that. So my new op systems would be a good one for the shadows? And is there a limit of cans??

[jjcom]

Depends on the kind of buffering you want to do. If you just want to do it on the computer itself, then 2000 is the limit. (The max amount the D2OL program allows) unless the computer can two threads or more. Than its 2000 times the number of instances of D2OL.

The safer way, is to have the computer crunch and upload, but not add the node to your account. Then when you want a boost, just add the node and all of a sudden cans show up :D

jjcom

[FROG]

Depends on the kind of buffering you want to do. If you just want to do it on the computer itself, then 2000 is the limit. (The max amount the D2OL program allows) unless the computer can two threads or more. Than its 2000 times the number of instances of D2OL.

The safer way, is to have the computer crunch and upload, but not add the node to your account. Then when you want a boost, just add the node and all of a sudden cans show up :D

jjcom
Niiiiiiiiiiiice!!!! Thanks.. Ohboy this will be fun...Thanks jj

[x714n]

i have problem
i install the 2X XS_D2OL
i saw the process running in task manager, but i cant find it in my system tray
what's wrong?

[[XC] moddolicous]

If u installed the personal one that rod made, it doesnt run in your try, it runs as a service.