9800SE L Shape new version?

[Mitz]

hello guys, i see it (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-433&depa=0) from newegg

is this new version of 9800SE?

the board (http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-102-433-02.JPG) looks more similiar to 9700 PRO (http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/radeon9700pro/board_front.jpg) board than 9800 PRO (http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-131-236-07.JPG) board

Do u thing is there any chance to soft mod it?

[EnJoY]

Just a little rule to remember, the ati cards with the black pcb's were never able to soft mod. Red PCB, "L" shaped ram config, and a little luck is what you needed.

[Mitz]

Just a little rule to remember, the ati cards with the black pcb's were never able to soft mod.
why? i think that just a colour :(

i search in this forum and see this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20761&page=1&pp=25&highlight=9800se+black+pcb)

it's the same pcb right?

[EnJoY]

No, the black colored PCB's were not just a color change. They were completely different PCB's than the red ones with less caps/mosfets or a different layout...either way making them incompatible to softmod.

[Shade00]

I've seen softmodded black PCB cards. Sapphire just had some fun making black video cards - they had the same PCB.

[Mitz]

is it (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-433&depa=0) really comes with 128-bit? or just newegg mistake?

[craig588]

All of the black PCB cards can mod (The pipes working is a different story).

All R300 based cards can mod, the only difference between I, most of the black ones, and L cards is the memory bus width. The mod only opens the pipes, the memory will always stay the same (Yes, L shaped r9500NPs have 256 bit ram at stock)