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Ol!ver
12-03-2004, 12:20 PM
So Ol!ver, what did this mate manage to achieve with his sticks on NFII?


Wish I could tell you, the thread's gone walkabout ! If I manage to fish it out I'll link to it.

Sorry 'bout that :D

Oli

amilian
12-03-2004, 12:42 PM
long time reader/troll of this forum and finally had a reason to post.

this ram looks sweet but its so hard to find in canada its rediculous, i refuse to pay for shipping/brokerage fees from the states. i know its probably good business to seell alot of this stuff at one time, but to sell 2 whole manufacturing runs of this stuff right off the bat and short every other place out is crazy. i could see doing this after its been available for a while but so soon to do it. i just dont understand the logic behind it. its great for anyone near a Fry's store but anyone else gets shafted. Then reading this forum almost makes me cry just because i got to wait till next year, even tho its a month away, i dont know if i can take this.

lol
At least you've got Jack Daniels to ease the pain :)

Tony
12-03-2004, 12:43 PM
How I have burned in ram

Find the max stable at say 3V, run test 5 for 500loops and then up the fsb 1 notch, do the same and then upp the fsb 1 notch again, do this till you see errors and then up the voltage 1 notch.

Repeat till voltage makes no difference.....the ram is maxed.

cantankerous
12-03-2004, 12:43 PM
yes please and thank you, I would appreciate some results before I get mine in. The only thing I am wondering and worrying about to be honest is the fact that I will never really know what the ram can do if my current board won't keep up. It can be crappy and only do 250 and I would never know till I got another board.

cantankerous
12-03-2004, 12:45 PM
wow 1fsb at a time.. you sure have patience!

Probably a smart thing to do though. Can you kill a rams potential if clocking up too high to begin with?

Tony
12-03-2004, 12:51 PM
wow 1fsb at a time.. you sure have patience!

Probably a smart thing to do though. Can you kill a rams potential if clocking up too high to begin with?
Its important you do it like this as it pushes slowly and the result for me stuck.

Also, lets all remember your now pushing the memory controller on your A64's real hard with low latencies....the errors may be cpu induced here if the memory controller is a little below excellent.

Ol!ver
12-03-2004, 01:00 PM
....the errors may be cpu induced here if the memory controller is a little below excellent.


Which, lets's be honest, most of the Winchesters are :(

Oli

winston
12-03-2004, 01:04 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/winston69/fd5d663c.jpg

Orker
12-03-2004, 01:08 PM
Very nice winston!

What motherboard are do you have?

cantankerous
12-03-2004, 01:11 PM
He is using the MSI NEO PLAT 2. Big ups to my boi Winston!

Funny thing is this was failing in seconds last night. A good 12 hour burn in has brought him this. I am very happy for him and hope everyone can get results at least like this... including myself.

ryanpgroovy
12-03-2004, 01:11 PM
whos crazycarl :-)

Timtitanium
12-03-2004, 01:13 PM
Well here are some other results of the VX which I am testing for OCZ

http://users.pandora.be/timtitanium/ocz/fsb%20275.JPG

http://users.pandora.be/timtitanium/ocz/piloops.JPG

http://users.pandora.be/timtitanium/ocz/piscore3.JPG

the highest fsb achieved atm is 275 on timings 2/2/2/7 also as my
Pifast score.
I only gave 3.5V with the booster , maybe I need to give little bit
more juice for more thighter timings. That I will test this weekend

Ill keep you guys updated.

ryanpgroovy
12-03-2004, 01:17 PM
I wonder are your bandwidth so high becuase of the CPU speed , or becuase its a FX-55

Jupiler
12-03-2004, 01:18 PM
Nice scores, Tim.

And welcome to Xtreme. :welcome:

cantankerous
12-03-2004, 01:20 PM
hehe im not crazy carl. He is another mate Winston and myself talk too. I laughed when I saw that too. lol.

death metal
12-03-2004, 01:20 PM
nice RAM bandwidth, awesome...

Tony
12-03-2004, 01:22 PM
dual channel and the fact he is running an FX with more cache will help.

Orker
12-03-2004, 01:32 PM
He is using the MSI NEO PLAT 2. Big ups to my boi Winston!

Funny thing is this was failing in seconds last night. A good 12 hour burn in has brought him this. I am very happy for him and hope everyone can get results at least like this... including myself.

w00t!!! another neo2 plat! burn it is definately the key..

winston, what program did you use to burn in your ram?

cantankerous
12-03-2004, 01:37 PM
memtested 260, 3.6v for 12 hours. WITH COOLING.

Sorry to answer for him but I know the answers and figured I could get them to you sooner than he can. =D.

TEDY
12-03-2004, 01:38 PM
this fuss about VX and fry's sux....i won't buy this ram...

PDP XL is only 219$ now.

Orker
12-03-2004, 01:38 PM
memtested 260, 3.6v for 12 hours. WITH COOLING.

Sorry to answer for him but I know the answers and figured I could get them to you sooner than he can. =D.

yep cool appreciate it :)

winston
12-03-2004, 01:52 PM
memtested 260, 3.6v for 12 hours. WITH COOLING.

Sorry to answer for him but I know the answers and figured I could get them to you sooner than he can. =D.

:toast:

Orker
12-03-2004, 01:57 PM
Update on my VX :D

Dec 3, 2004 11:26 am
Package status
HONOLULU HI
In transit

GO baby!!

Playful_Buffalo
12-03-2004, 01:59 PM
Edited, took out the stuff,
buffalo

nutcase
12-03-2004, 04:26 PM
Got to 255x10 so far. But, does that bandwidth look right? Kinda low for sandra score isn't it?


This is on DFI UT NF3 250GB (slot 1,3) All on auto except 10x multiplier, enabled CPC, 2-2-2-10. memtest was done with 9x multiplier to get cpu oc out of the equation.

No, You are just about right for A socket 754. Remember, also the onboard Audio, USB and Raid will rob the bandwidth a little along with any programs running in the background.

starblazer
12-03-2004, 04:31 PM
No, You are just about right for A socket 754. Remember, also the onboard Audio, USB and Raid will rob the bandwidth a little along with any programs running in the background.


Thanks for the input. I think I am pretty happy at 255x10 for a 3200+ at 2-2-2-10. Will tweak more after some more burn in, but right now it's rock solid. Quite amazing actually considering it's a 0.5 core and it can get to 2550 with relatively low vcore.

Ram actually tested out great at 260mhz, but I think it's the CPU that will be the bottleneck unless i want to go with a 9x multiplier....

poch
12-03-2004, 07:43 PM
hi. i'm thinking of getting a gig of VX for my 2.8C M0/IC7 but suddenly my friend decides to sell me his XMS3500 v1.1 (2x512) for like $200. would i be better off w/ the BH5's or should i still go for the VX? btw i'll be going A64 maybe next year so i'll still be using the RAM i get..thanks

my first post!!woot!

sparkie34
12-03-2004, 07:56 PM
hi. i'm thinking of getting a gig of VX for my 2.8C M0/IC7 but suddenly my friend decides to sell me his XMS3500 v1.1 (2x512) for like $200. would i be better off w/ the BH5's or should i still go for the VX? btw i'll be going A64 maybe next year so i'll still be using the RAM i get..thanks

my first post!!woot!


All depends on how high your 2.8c clocks. If you only can do about 250fsb I would stick to the bh-5 for that price.


edit* welcome to xtremesystems :toast:

aCidbAbY
12-03-2004, 08:23 PM
here is 250 mhz @ 3.5 vdimm

help me get my pi score lower:help:

amilian
12-03-2004, 08:25 PM
here is 250 mhz @ 3.5 vdimm

help me get my pi score lower:help:
where?
and
what is it?

aCidbAbY
12-03-2004, 08:26 PM
that is a screeny of my Vx :doh:

trans am
12-03-2004, 09:49 PM
show a screen of cpuz memory and lets open up a64 tweaker

aCidbAbY
12-03-2004, 09:59 PM
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/8340/a5-101.jpg

trans am
12-03-2004, 10:04 PM
How high did you go with just 1?

aCidbAbY
12-03-2004, 10:25 PM
been caught up with the set:D gotta save something for later:D

Nube
12-03-2004, 10:53 PM
this ram is so cool it doesn't matter because nobody sells it in UK

bacon
12-04-2004, 12:50 AM
well sold my gskill as my 3200winny has the naffest mem controller on the planet (week 35)

so ordered some VX and a booster for $340including shipping to UK, thats only £180 same as the gskill, bargain if you ask me

SteveOCZ
12-04-2004, 02:50 AM
Guys the way we released the ram may not make all of you happy because we didn't make a huge amount at first to send to everyone around the world. I think the idea was to get some out there and then make more as quickly as possible to get to everyone else. New products do take time to get everywhere in the world...even more so for those of us living outside North America. So just relax and enjoy the holidays and soon we'll all have some VX :) :toast:

Brum Man
12-04-2004, 03:17 AM
well I talked to someone who is supposedly good with you guys. One of the only fully authorized dealers. No one else locally is even touching this stuff.

I think I snagged a pair though so all is good. Looks like I will be the first and only NFII tester for these chips.No, I have some coming too and I'm on NFII :D so hopefully I shound be the 1st as I ordered mine in the first batch! :banana:

bacon
12-04-2004, 03:26 AM
No, I have some coming too and I'm on NFII :D so hopefully I shound be the 1st as I ordered mine in the first batch! :banana:


winston got his friday you shudda used priority mail if ya wanted it first lol hes getting 260 2-2-2-5 1T with 3.4v prime stable on his 3500 winny

cantankerous
12-04-2004, 04:20 AM
cool Brum Man. Let me know if you get yours first. Looks like we are the only ones maybe we can compare and help each other out. I'm game.

bacon
12-04-2004, 04:36 AM
not the only ones, mines been shipped to the UK to, it was in US airport yesterday so hoping on monday or tuesday delivery

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wahey

I_Am_ToO_SeXy
12-04-2004, 05:37 AM
Do you think i can run 2*512 3700EB + 2*512 VX @220 @ 3-2-2-6 @ 2,85 volts on my Pat Hacked P4P800 Deluxe??

i'm gonna buy a gig of these VX :)

disco_bazoon
12-04-2004, 05:39 AM
GOD DAMN I'm tempted to get me a gig of this stuff! I'm surprised that it actually is in stock already here in Norway. Oooooooh MUST-RESIST, HAVE-XMAS-PRESENTS-TO-BUY. :D

Den Leiw
12-04-2004, 05:48 AM
hmmm 264€ (350 USD) in a german online shop ?

http://www2.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=IAIDN9&

TEDY
12-04-2004, 06:33 AM
hmmm 264€ (350 USD) in a german online shop ?

http://www2.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=IAIDN9&

holly smoke EXPENSIVE!!!

aCidbAbY
12-04-2004, 08:25 AM
hmmm 264€ (350 USD) in a german online shop ?

http://www2.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=IAIDN9&
dude this stuff is not worth 350usd :eek:

winston
12-04-2004, 09:38 AM
winston got his friday you shudda used priority mail if ya wanted it first lol hes getting 260 2-2-2-5 1T with 3.4v prime stable on his 3500 winny

3.5 :stick:


;)

ryanpgroovy
12-04-2004, 12:29 PM
people in europe seem to constantly be gettign gouged on prices , Its simply horrible

TEDY
12-04-2004, 12:46 PM
ryan

even if the price would be 1:1

259$=259€ ...still too much for us....

ryanpgroovy
12-04-2004, 12:58 PM
This is more what it should look like

259.00 USD
United States Dollars = 193.363 EUR
Euro
1 USD = 0.746575 EUR 1 EUR = 1.33945 USD


Remeber that 259 price you see on US websites includes a healthy markup over what we wholesale the product for already .

TEDY
12-04-2004, 01:17 PM
or like 220€ max.

funny thing is TCCD ram just came available in my country - slovenija

barerly APACER or some A-DATA....i know some pc store keeps few modules of OCZ EL REV2 2*512, watch out...for 420-430$ LOL :slobber:

aCidbAbY
12-04-2004, 01:27 PM
hey guys im definately addicted.
im on my pocket pc at work trying to check the status of everyones VX. roflmao

Trooper_GR
12-04-2004, 02:15 PM
In europe prices are way different. 269 for the VX sounds normal to me. The bad thing is that if we try to buy directly from USA, we might face customs taxes and that would mean 100-150 $ on top of the price. So its better to pay some more and keep it safe than to risk paying fewer and in the end you end up paying more.

And when you want to buy the newest and latest, it always costs more... :(

MarilynMX
12-04-2004, 02:25 PM
price in Canada $320~345 CAD plus tax. release date~someday before this year -_-b

TEDY
12-04-2004, 02:47 PM
there should be no custom taxes between eu-usa

but damn politics sux.

SteveOCZ
12-04-2004, 02:49 PM
there should be no custom taxes between eu-usa

but damn politics sux.

Aint that the truth!! :mad:

DevilsRejection
12-04-2004, 02:53 PM
so anyupdates on where/when i could buy it here in America, prefably from newegg or zipzoomfly?

odb
12-04-2004, 02:53 PM
i say same thing about usa - canada but it sucks.

Nube
12-04-2004, 02:56 PM
yer, 1 gig top ram here in UK (corsair ocz muskin ect low latency ram) all cost around £220-250, like $460~

TEDY
12-04-2004, 02:59 PM
Aint that the truth!! :mad:

still no email of her :yawn:

i thought we were best :buddies: :bounces:

DevilsRejection
12-04-2004, 03:03 PM
i just want this stuff before christmas.

cinders
12-04-2004, 03:06 PM
My OCZ EL DDR PC-4200 Dual Channel Platinum cost me £280 over here in the UK - the day it came out! I've returned that for a refund.

I've ordered some of the VX from the USA, that'll be here Tuesday and that cost me £155

I'll be putting the £125 difference towards my PCP&C 510 Deluxe!

DevilsRejection
12-04-2004, 03:09 PM
My OCZ EL DDR PC-4200 Dual Channel Platinum cost me £280 over here in the UK - the day it came out! I've returned that for a refund.

I've ordered some of the VX from the USA, that'll be here Tuesday and that cost me £155

I'll be putting the £125 difference towards my PCP&C 510 Deluxe!
where did you get it from?

STEvil
12-04-2004, 03:20 PM
Do you think i can run 2*512 3700EB + 2*512 VX @220 @ 3-2-2-6 @ 2,85 volts on my Pat Hacked P4P800 Deluxe??

i'm gonna buy a gig of these VX :)

no.

cinders
12-04-2004, 03:39 PM
where did you get it from?

eXcaliber

conrad.maranan
12-04-2004, 04:49 PM
I've noticed a a few people having to drop their CPU multiplier in order to run Prime95 stable. There are others, including myself, that can pass Memtest forever at the multiplier we want, but fail to boot into Windows or maintain some sort of stability during Prime95 using a high multiplier.

I've noticed the above only on Winchester CPUs. I'm starting to fall under the impression that most Winchesters have weak on-die memory controllers to begin with. If there are others that run an FX or 130nm chip with great results, please share your data with us in order that we may draw some guesses/generalizations with the Winnies (as if we don't do enough speculating already).

Orker
12-04-2004, 04:53 PM
I've noticed a a few people having to drop their CPU multiplier in order to run Prime95 stable. There are others, including myself, that can pass Memtest forever at the multiplier we want, but fail to boot into Windows or maintain some sort of stability during Prime95 using a high multiplier.

I've noticed the above only on Winchester CPUs. I'm starting to fall under the impression that most Winchesters have weak on-die memory controllers to begin with. If there are others that run an FX or 130nm chip with great results, please share your data with us in order that we may draw some guesses/generalizations with the Winnies (as if we don't do enough speculating already).


True that


So what settings are you prime stable at?

conrad.maranan
12-04-2004, 04:57 PM
Everything was running fine and dandy at 260MHz in dual channel. Late last night, something with my CPU went wrong and now I can only see one functional DIMM, even with two modules populating two slots.

My memory controller is dead (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=620716#post620716).

ryanpgroovy
12-04-2004, 05:48 PM
you sure you didnt kill the module ? or the motherboard socket

I have never actauly seen a cpu mem controller die from overvolting , just heard rumours early on

conrad.maranan
12-04-2004, 05:58 PM
I'm sure it's not the modules. I've tested each one individually in single-channel mode as well. I picked up another board this morning, just to make sure. It's not the board. I've had problems with the memory controller since day one, so I have reason to conclude that my problem lies in my CPU.

ryanpgroovy
12-04-2004, 07:08 PM
try an FX-55 :-)

That what I get the best results with ( best Memory controller )

conrad.maranan
12-04-2004, 07:17 PM
chilly1 will be building me a little somethin'-somethin' after the Holidays. I'm definitely going to purchase an FX-55.

bacon
12-04-2004, 07:24 PM
3.5 :stick:


;)


nit picking ;)

DevilsRejection
12-04-2004, 08:17 PM
excaliber is sold out which sucks because there isn't a frys next to me at all. i wanted to upgrade for chirtsmas but now it looks like that isn't going to happen.

it's been tradition to spend my first paycheck on a worthy upgrade, now i got 750 to spend and i want that msi board, a 3500+, ocz ddr booster, and some of this kickass ram baby.

Orker
12-04-2004, 09:18 PM
excaliber is sold out which sucks because there isn't a frys next to me at all. i wanted to upgrade for chirtsmas but now it looks like that isn't going to happen.

it's been tradition to spend my first paycheck on a worthy upgrade, now i got 750 to spend and i want that msi board, a 3500+, ocz ddr booster, and some of this kickass ram baby.

excalibre have been in stock for most of the week.. If you missed out you were way too slow

Nice rig your getting .. Very similar to mine

odb
12-04-2004, 10:07 PM
hrmmmm, woah

checked my order status at RamStore.ca:


Order Status

Thank you for order Mark
Your Order has been processed and shipped



no tracking number tho but hope this is correct. wouldnt know if you guys got one the shipments that came to out to these guys or not do you, im having a hard time contacting these guys,

DevilsRejection
12-04-2004, 10:10 PM
excalibre have been in stock for most of the week.. If you missed out you were way too slow

Nice rig your getting .. Very similar to mine
well i dont have all the money yet, besides i want to buy this more towards xmas so i got 20 days or so to place my order. i get my next paycheck in 10 days so here is hoping on me ordering then.

I will be monitoring these forums @ work all day, i cna't wait to get this :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

aCidbAbY
12-04-2004, 10:58 PM
games benchies and full burnin 21hrs
:toast:

DevilsRejection
12-04-2004, 11:29 PM
games benchies and full burnin 21hrs
:toast:

needs moar voltage, failing memtest is not a good thing.

aCidbAbY
12-04-2004, 11:32 PM
3 in 21 hours i think is pretty damn stable.

DevilsRejection
12-05-2004, 12:13 AM
3 in 21 hours i think is pretty damn stable.
stable to me is 0 in 72 hours, but thats just me.

esoteradactyl
12-05-2004, 01:08 AM
here ya go (http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA20923) :toast:

TEDY
12-05-2004, 01:15 AM
only 249$ ?

w000t ?

DevilsRejection
12-05-2004, 01:24 AM
Thanks just purchased from mwave, hope they are a good company? are they? 8.62 on reseller rating as opposed to 9.02 for excaliber, should i be worried? i am starting to be :(

TEDY
12-05-2004, 01:27 AM
i got through my friend those KHX3200ULK2/1GB TCCD with no problem whatsoever.

conrad.maranan
12-05-2004, 01:30 AM
Thanks just purchased from mwave, hope they are a good company? are they? 8.62 on reseller rating as opposed to 9.02 for excaliber, should i be worried? i am starting to be :(
They're a good company. I've been walking through the doors of their Will-Call Department since 1998.

DevilsRejection
12-05-2004, 01:32 AM
They're a good company. I've been walking through the doors of their Will-Call Department since 1998.
your one of the most respected members on this board, hearing this from you just makes me feel better inside. :toast:

conrad.maranan
12-05-2004, 01:47 AM
your one of the most respected members on this board, hearing this from you just makes me feel better inside. :toast:
:cool: Thanks, but I'm just the same as everyone else on here.

RocKer
12-05-2004, 03:05 AM
here ya go (http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA20923) :toast:
Do the ship to Europa.

cantankerous
12-05-2004, 04:33 AM
Say ODB, when did you order your ram from ramstore? I ordered some last week and have heard nothing of the sort of being shipped etc. I emailed and was told there was a set left and that it would be mine if I ordered right then and there which I did. Within minutes I had a confirmation. Just to let you know I too am having a real hard time contacting them. They were really good with emailing me back same day now its been days since I emailed them asking about the status of the order. I hope I did get the memory and it wasn't given to someone else.

Malachia
12-05-2004, 06:33 AM
sorry guys, these mems what will do 2.5-3-3-7???they are like bh-5 that do max 5mhz more than 2-2-2-5?

odb
12-05-2004, 07:16 AM
Say ODB, when did you order your ram from ramstore? I ordered some last week and have heard nothing of the sort of being shipped etc. I emailed and was told there was a set left and that it would be mine if I ordered right then and there which I did. Within minutes I had a confirmation. Just to let you know I too am having a real hard time contacting them. They were really good with emailing me back same day now its been days since I emailed them asking about the status of the order. I hope I did get the memory and it wasn't given to someone else.

i emailed them about nov. 30th asking about when it would come in, the eta was 3 days i think on the product page, never heard nothing, so i ordered them on Thursday. i got an email confirming my order and what not. check the site the next day, the new eta was Jan/2005, and that the first shipment was sold out, check my order status last night, and it said my order was processed and shipped. but i never got an email with tracking number or even an answer my to original emails regarding stock.

im just hoping it actually shipped and not a blunder or anything.

aCidbAbY
12-05-2004, 07:29 AM
stable to me is 0 in 72 hours, but thats just me.
well a day ago i was getting 1-2 errors per pass :stick: just did 7hrs prime stable good enough for me.

Rabbi_NZ
12-05-2004, 11:19 AM
Is there someone on here from Hong Kong that ordered the VX from ExcaliberPC by any chance...??? hehehe

ExcaliberPC sent me two tracking numbers after my order and I thought I was actually receiving two sets :cool:... unfortunately I just received an update on USPS.COM saying the first shipment has arrived in HongKong... so who ever ordered it is bout to receive their babies, good luck!

cantankerous
12-05-2004, 11:25 AM
Well I just checked my order status on ramstore and it says sorry has not yet shipped. I guess I did get jipped out of my kit. boo!

gocchin
12-05-2004, 11:57 AM
i emailed them about nov. 30th asking about when it would come in, the eta was 3 days i think on the product page, never heard nothing, so i ordered them on Thursday. i got an email confirming my order and what not. check the site the next day, the new eta was Jan/2005, and that the first shipment was sold out, check my order status last night, and it said my order was processed and shipped. but i never got an email with tracking number or even an answer my to original emails regarding stock.

im just hoping it actually shipped and not a blunder or anything.

Let's just say it seems like OCZ Canada got a very small amount of VX allocated :(

cantankerous
12-05-2004, 01:26 PM
Yea, I heard 4 kits total.

ryanpgroovy
12-05-2004, 01:31 PM
I am relatively sure MWave ships overseas also , for those who care :-)

DevilsRejection
12-05-2004, 01:35 PM
I am relatively sure MWave ships overseas also , for those who care :-)
i ordered some vx from them, where do you think I should get my 3500+ from? retail or oem?

:toast: for all the help and answers uve been giving me, this xmas will sure a nice one, been looking forward to upgrading my athlon xp 2.4 setup.

iboomalot
12-05-2004, 01:38 PM
i ordered some vx from them, where do you think I should get my 3500+ from? retail or oem?



get a retail box ebay usually has nice cheap prices on boxes.
or
the eggster :D

DevilsRejection
12-05-2004, 01:40 PM
get a retail box ebay usually has nice cheap prices on boxes.
or
the eggster :D
where you get yours from? i see your hiting 2.67

iboomalot
12-05-2004, 01:46 PM
I got mine at a killer price of 467.00 shipping included :D

I got mine off ebay about 6-7 months ago before the price drops hit.

but AMD will honor the warranty on a BOXED cpu for 3 yrs. Just remember not to throw the box or heatsink away since you have to send those back with the CPU if you want your warranty.

DevilsRejection
12-05-2004, 01:56 PM
I got mine at a killer price of 467.00 shipping included :D

I got mine off ebay about 6-7 months ago before the price drops hit.

but AMD will honor the warranty on a BOXED cpu for 3 yrs. Just remember not to throw the box or heatsink away since you have to send those back with the CPU if you want your warranty.
so im thinking newegg, im just iffy about buying computer hardware on ebay, although it is how i got my x800xtpe, i only did because the seller had like 40 thousand feedback, no exageration.

iboomalot
12-05-2004, 01:59 PM
if its a sealed box CPU that means it should be just as good or bad as one you get in a store.

also the boxed versions have a FULL warranty you could send it to AMD if it doesn't work and get a new one.

your call Newegg has them for 295.00 ebay on a good deal might save you 50.00 but not many winchesters avil only 3 right now and only one in a boxed form.

Darren
12-05-2004, 02:01 PM
I got a set of these from excalibur last week. My first stick was 100% stable in both prime95 and memtest at 257mhz 5 minutes out of the box. Any higher and i would fail prime and eventually get memtest errors. I could bench it fine and game at 265-267mhz but it wasn't anywhere near stable. Anything above that and things started getting hairy. Though i could make some quick suicide runs at 272mhz. I did a 24 hour burn in with looping test 5 and 8 and seemed to be getting less errors and lasted longer in prime but it still wasn't 100% stable. And i was able to now boot into windows for more suicide runs at 275 and 276mhz but it was highly unstable. I'm sure with some more burn in time and tweaking i could get this stick stable at 260mhz.

But, unfortunately my second stick was defective :( . It had an odd problem where it would fail prime immediately and error out immediately in memtest. Even at 200mhz it would fail, no matter what the speed/timings/votage it would fail. I could however get into windows with it and have no noticeable problems with it at 265mhz :confused: . I didn't run any extensive tests to see how stable windows was however, but it was certainly usable. How could it fail at 200mhz yet still be usable at 265mhz :confused: . I tried the stick in all slots and got the same problems. I immediately popped back in the other stick and everything tests fine. I then switched back to my mushkin lvl2 and they test fine. Put the other stick back in and same problems, so i'm 100% sure it was a defective stick.

I contacted OCZ and got an rma set up and the sticks are on their way back. I must say I'm very impressed with their customer service, and they've certainly lived up to the reputation they've gotten from other users posts I've seen in various forums

BTW, the system i used them in was an A64 3700+, DFI LP UT 250GB, and a fortron 530 with adjusted 12v and 3.3v rails. The sticks got between 3.4-3.5 volts while testing and i never bothered using any type of cooling on them. Even at 3.5v 275mhz they were barely warm, same as my mushkins. Anyways, here's hoping to a good pair of sticks on the return.

DevilsRejection
12-05-2004, 02:02 PM
if its a sealed box CPU that means it should be just as good or bad as one you get in a store.

also the boxed versions have a FULL warranty you could send it to AMD if it doesn't work and get a new one.

your call Newegg has them for 295.00 ebay on a good deal might save you 50.00 but not many winchesters avil only 3 right now and only one in a boxed form.
well its either newegg or monarch, i dont want to get stuck with something that cant break 2.5 like another memeber on this forum i can't remember his name.

TEDY
12-05-2004, 02:34 PM
darren welcome here :)

Darren
12-05-2004, 02:50 PM
ty :)

ocmyface
12-05-2004, 02:53 PM
well its either newegg or monarch, i dont want to get stuck with something that cant break 2.5 like another memeber on this forum i can't remember his name.

why not ZZF?

Orker
12-05-2004, 10:34 PM
MY VX has ARRIVED!!! :D:D:D

Currently sitting on 240 @ 2-2-2-10 3.4v
Want to burn it in at this setting till i push it much further.. Going to prime it and sandra mem burn

Just doubling checking, do i have vdimm on AUTO 1.6, 1.65 or 1.85 in bios? thx

conrad.maranan
12-05-2004, 10:39 PM
You can set your BIOS VDIMM to any setting. Just make sure that your Booster is calibrated to read the same BIOS voltage when the knob is turned full counter-clockwise.

Good luck, Orker! I hope to see 260MHz and beyond coming from your end. :toast:

arj
12-06-2004, 12:06 AM
I am relatively sure MWave ships overseas also , for those who care :-)

I'm afraid they don't - http://www.mwave.com/mwave/helptarget.hmx?#intl

The only place that I know who ships internationally is excaliberpc.com and frozencpu.com. Just paid for my pair of VX, should be getting them by Friday :banana:

Orker
12-06-2004, 01:15 AM
Thanks conrad :) 260 2-2-2-10 is my goal... 3.5v for that you think?

Just burning in my ram with memtest86 at the mo

240 2-2-2-10 3.4v

Its been going for an hour now, 3 passes, 0 fails, 0 errors
Going to let that run till tomorrow... How many hours is enough?

STEvil
12-06-2004, 01:37 AM
I ran mine for just over 40 hours at 3.77v..... didnt seem to change anything but then again i was running 2x512 on 754... with only 3.3v.

Orker
12-06-2004, 03:49 AM
I ran mine for just over 40 hours at 3.77v..... didnt seem to change anything but then again i was running 2x512 on 754... with only 3.3v.

cool thanks.. Im on holidays so it will be interesting to see how long i can hold out with no gaming :p:

Family man 72
12-06-2004, 04:48 AM
Has anyone tested these VX-sticks with cas3-2-2-x settings? Do they go higher than cas2-2-2-x settings? I have 2x512MB set of 3700 EB and they run memtest, prime, 3D etc. stable 239 with cas3-2-2-8-1T settings with 3.0V on DFI Lanparty. Might go higher, but my 3200+ won't go higher than 2.63GHz. Me and my friend ordered two 1GB sets of these VX and should arrive on tuesday or wednesday.

bacon
12-06-2004, 08:16 AM
got back to find a ticket with a customs charge of £45 b*****ds

teach me for adding a booster into the box, must have been a bigger box or something as the gskill went home free

ah well, gotta collect it after 6pm

hopefully these will be bloody good clockers with that fricking charge on their heads

cinders
12-06-2004, 08:22 AM
Well I'm going home in 30 minutes, hopefully there won't be a customs charge on mine when I get back - TOUCH WOOD! (I asked them to mark it GIFT)

Still £45 ain't to bad, you still got the memory for under £200 in total....

got back to find a ticket with a customs charge of £45 b*****ds

teach me for adding a booster into the box, must have been a bigger box or something as the gskill went home free

ah well, gotta collect it after 6pm

hopefully these will be bloody good clockers with that fricking charge on their heads

bacon
12-06-2004, 08:25 AM
Well I'm going home in 30 minutes, hopefully there won't be a customs charge on mine when I get back - TOUCH WOOD! (I asked them to mark it GIFT)

Still £45 ain't to bad, you still got the memory for under £200 in total....

well yeh i guess £225inc which is fairly high, but with a booster aint to bad, but £180inc would have been a steal

ryanpgroovy
12-06-2004, 09:41 AM
3-2-2 or 2.5-2-2 will definetly show a speed increase on most boards , but it seems everyone is caught up in running 2-2-2 right at the moment

cuddles
12-06-2004, 09:45 AM
2-2-2 = Jesus, that's why! ;)

ryanpgroovy
12-06-2004, 09:55 AM
2-2-2 = Jesus, that's why! ;)

:banana3:

aCidbAbY
12-06-2004, 10:04 AM
Has anyone tested these VX-sticks with cas3-2-2-x settings? Do they go higher than cas2-2-2-x settings? I have 2x512MB set of 3700 EB and they run memtest, prime, 3D etc. stable 239 with cas3-2-2-8-1T settings with 3.0V on DFI Lanparty. Might go higher, but my 3200+ won't go higher than 2.63GHz. Me and my friend ordered two 1GB sets of these VX and should arrive on tuesday or wednesday.


i tried it and it didnt really alow me to clock any higher!

RocKer
12-06-2004, 10:20 AM
My VX is coming in sometime this week,the store has alredy ship't it to me,so its not so long enymore to give them VX hell;),see what the do at 3.6v :banana: .

conrad.maranan
12-06-2004, 12:01 PM
Thanks conrad :) 260 2-2-2-10 is my goal... 3.5v for that you think?

Just burning in my ram with memtest86 at the mo

240 2-2-2-10 3.4v

Its been going for an hour now, 3 passes, 0 fails, 0 errors
Going to let that run till tomorrow... How many hours is enough?
To test stability, I'd run Torture Test overnight. For burning your RAM in, do whatever you feel is going to push your memory over the edge. There are several of us that suspect the Winchesters have a flawed memory controller. If you fail Prime95, don't be discouraged. Run Super PI 32M and loop a few other benchmark utilities such as 3DMark2001 to test for stability.

bacon
12-06-2004, 02:38 PM
Got them at 255 2-2-2-5 with 3.4v priming my temporary 3500 newcastle
at 255 x 10 (chip limit at the moment) on 1.7v

they are memtest stable for 20 loops test 5 at 260 2-2-2-5 with 3.5v
(260 x 10) but cpu isnt stable enough to run superpi 8mb let alone
32mb, strange how its memtest stable tho

So just using 255 x 10 for now

I did try 265 x 10 and got errors with 3.6v, reducing the cpu multi to 9 reduced the number of errors to 2 a test so its showing it could also be mem controller limited

Either way sweet ass memory

Orker
12-06-2004, 03:23 PM
To test stability, I'd run Torture Test overnight. For burning your RAM in, do whatever you feel is going to push your memory over the edge. There are several of us that suspect the Winchesters have a flawed memory controller. If you fail Prime95, don't be discouraged. Run Super PI 32M and loop a few other benchmark utilities such as 3DMark2001 to test for stability.

Yet prime95 failed yesterday at 240 2-2-2-10 yet memtest has been going for the past 16hrs with no errors

DudeMiester
12-06-2004, 03:25 PM
I was wondering would the RAM burn in faster if you ran memtest despite any errors, shouldn't in theory after a while the errors just stop as the RAM becomes fully burned it (assuming it can run at the selected speeed)?

Rabbi_NZ
12-06-2004, 03:40 PM
DudeMiester,
I've heard a good way to burn in memory is find the MAX error-FREE MHz and then raise it by one or two so you're getting a few errors every pass or every several passes... then run MemTest until you're not getting ANY errors at that MHz anymore... raise a bit more and repeat

Orker
12-06-2004, 04:30 PM
I just got 220 errors on memtest86 at 240mhz 2-2-2-10 3.4v :(

Hopefully it gets better as the ram gets worn in

trans am
12-06-2004, 04:34 PM
I just got 220 errors on memtest86 at 240mhz 2-2-2-10 3.4v :(

Hopefully it gets better as the ram gets worn in

My stick that worked was the best at 3.1v this was stable at 255mhz 2-2-2-10 1t. just keep playing with memtest and the ddr booster. find the setting with the least errors and just keep it looping overnight. :)

andyOCZ
12-06-2004, 05:13 PM
I posted this in the Official VX Thread, but some of you may have missed it:

Ok guys I am doing some control testing, I am running 2 x 512mb of OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev 2 TCCD at the 2-2-2-10 settings shown below on a GB K8NS Ultra-939. On my 754/DFI UT rig, these sticks running together will run P95 for days at 200fsb. Looky see what happens here:

(Of course this is my wonderful Winnie 90nm 3500+)

conrad.maranan
12-06-2004, 05:21 PM
Andy.

That's one more point scored for the boys who feel that Winchesters just suck. Either that or Prime95 causes serious allergic reactions to these CPUs. Either way, I'm still firm in my belief that our memory controllers are seriously flawed.

EDIT:
RMA for my DDR Booster has been approved. I'll be picking up my new unit at 9:00am tomorrow morning. I have a feeling I'm going to murder this poor Winchester that I borrowed.

DevilsRejection
12-06-2004, 06:41 PM
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA20923

for those of you who still haven't ordered. I got a tracking number today, fedex says december 9th woo woo. too bad i'm not ordering my proc till friday :(

Orker
12-06-2004, 09:55 PM
My stick that worked was the best at 3.1v this was stable at 255mhz 2-2-2-10 1t. just keep playing with memtest and the ddr booster. find the setting with the least errors and just keep it looping overnight. :)

yeh cool... even though ive got errors at 240 should i just increase to 250 and keep burning in at that level? coz it boots at 250

So far i have done 17hrs of memtest... All errors(220) were on test 5.. Today i did 999 runs of sandra bandwidth burn

conrad.maranan
12-06-2004, 10:00 PM
Try twisting that DDR Booster knob just a wee little tiny bit. If you notice less errors, you're on the right track. :up:

Orker
12-06-2004, 10:13 PM
Try twisting that DDR Booster knob just a wee little tiny bit. If you notice less errors, you're on the right track. :up:

so 3.5v is good... Is 3.4v for 240 2-2-2-10 too high?

what mhz and voltage can you get at 2-2-2-10?

conrad.maranan
12-06-2004, 10:18 PM
260MHz 2-2-2-10 at 3.6VDIMM was the last I saw before my CPU died. I'm picking up a new DDR Booster tomorrow morning so I'm hoping to post up slightly higher numbers.

If the memory likes it, don't be afraid to push your VDIMM. Just make sure you have active cooling for the Booster or you'll fry it in no time.

Orker
12-06-2004, 10:23 PM
260MHz 2-2-2-10 at 3.6VDIMM was the last I saw before my CPU died. I'm picking up a new DDR Booster tomorrow morning so I'm hoping to post up slightly higher numbers.

If the memory likes it, don't be afraid to push your VDIMM. Just make sure you have active cooling for the Booster or you'll fry it in no time.

I didnt see your post about your booster... did it cook?

I have a 120mm fan aimed directly at the ram and booster... Its awfully tight on this mobo.. THeres no space between the dimms

conrad.maranan
12-06-2004, 10:30 PM
My first Booster fried when I first bought it. I didn't think cooling would be such a big deal. I learned the hard way. My current Booster just conked out, out of the blue. When I removed it, the knob seemed to have a lot of play and wiggled a lot. Tomorrow brings me my third Booster in just over a month. I've got the worst luck, man...hahaha! :D

Orker
12-06-2004, 10:34 PM
My first Booster fried when I first bought it. I didn't think cooling would be such a big deal. I learned the hard way. My current Booster just conked out, out of the blue. When I removed it, the knob seemed to have a lot of play and wiggled a lot. Tomorrow brings me my third Booster in just over a month. I've got the worst luck, man...hahaha! :D

LOL 3rd booster... well 3rd time lucky :)

conrad.maranan
12-06-2004, 10:39 PM
So, Orker. How many errors are you down to now after tweaking the voltage? Let me know pronto. I tend to get excited for other people as well, so if you're doing good, believe me when I say I have a big smile on my face. :D

Orker
12-06-2004, 11:48 PM
So, Orker. How many errors are you down to now after tweaking the voltage? Let me know pronto. I tend to get excited for other people as well, so if you're doing good, believe me when I say I have a big smile on my face. :D

haha :D .. im the same..

prime unstable at 3.4 3.5 240 2-2-2-10

ill run memtest86 now for 15min on test 5... the errors last time came within the first 5 min, so that should be long enough.. then ill report back
:)

conrad.maranan
12-06-2004, 11:55 PM
haha :D .. im the same..

prime unstable at 3.4 3.5 240 2-2-2-10

ill run memtest86 now for 15min on test 5... the errors last time came within the first 5 min, so that should be long enough.. then ill report back
:)
If you notice that you get the same exact error(s) at the same exact memory address(es), swap your modules out. Plug the module in DIMM 1 into DIMM 2 and vice versa. Run Memtest again and see if the errors are still the same.

andyOCZ
12-07-2004, 12:06 AM
Oker, cool that booster dude!! It sounds like you cooked the 2nd one also. I removed my pot and add a Cermet 15 turn job on there. Takes car of that issue. Of course there will be no more replacements cause your warranty will be voided, but you may not need have any more issues. :)

conrad.maranan
12-07-2004, 12:49 AM
So. When a DDR Booster is fried, it's basically just the pot that's cooked? I doubt my second unit was cooked. I have two 92mm Sunon fans dedicated to cooling the DIMM portion of my mobo. On top of that, I have a very small a/c unit blowing cold air to the open side of my case.

Orker
12-07-2004, 01:15 AM
Oker, cool that booster dude!! It sounds like you cooked the 2nd one also. I removed my pot and add a Cermet 15 turn job on there. Takes car of that issue. Of course there will be no more replacements cause your warranty will be voided, but you may not need have any more issues. :)

your freaking me out... i thought VX was warranted up to 3.5.. i havent gone above that... btw im using a 120mm fan which is about 2cm away from one end of the ram... is that good enough?

btw conrad... at last some good news.. no errors in memtest86 test 5 at 240 2-2-2-10 3.5v... only ran it for an hour though

Kalway
12-07-2004, 01:29 AM
Damn you OCz!!! I'm trying to buy a Corvette here and you guys go and find some company that's producing BH5 replicas! :cussing:

conrad.maranan
12-07-2004, 01:35 AM
btw conrad... at last some good news.. no errors in memtest86 test 5 at 240 2-2-2-10 3.5v... only ran it for an hour though
Hahaha! Congratulations, bro. 74 loops of Test #5 is gold. Run Super PI 32M and then try 245MHz and 250MHz. If you error out, turn the little knob a little bit more. OCZ will honor their warranty for your RAM as long as you don't exceed 3.5VDIMM + 5%.

:toast:

andyOCZ
12-07-2004, 01:42 AM
your freaking me out... i thought VX was warranted up to 3.5.. i havent gone above that... btw im using a 120mm fan which is about 2cm away from one end of the ram... is that good enough?

btw conrad... at last some good news.. no errors in memtest86 test 5 at 240 2-2-2-10 3.5v... only ran it for an hour though

Don't be freaked out ;). You are fine with your cooling I see, and yes VX is warrantied to 3.5v (I didn't bring that up). Cooling helps the booster and not all problems are pot related. :)

Orker
12-07-2004, 02:00 AM
Hahaha! Congratulations, bro. 74 loops of Test #5 is gold. Run Super PI 32M and then try 245MHz and 250MHz. If you error out, turn the little knob a little bit more. OCZ will honor their warranty for your RAM as long as you don't exceed 3.5VDIMM + 5%.

:toast:

LOL so 74 loops of test 5 is gold... Thankyou, thats a great benchmark for me to use :D

OCZ make the best stuff and the higher than average voltage warranty rocks
This booster is the most innovative thing in years!

k ill try 250 tonight when i go to bed

cinders
12-07-2004, 02:02 AM
My new VX got pretty warm just running at 2.85v so I'm definately going to get some cooling on it tonight when I fit my new psu and ddr booster and start putting some real voltage through them!...

I'm making a wind tunnel to cool my ram, it'll consist of a 80mm fan with a piece of 80m pipe (cut in half longways) attached to it...

That will cover the dimm slots, blowing cold air across the dimms and booster -

Here is a rough diagram, do you guys think it will work well?...

I'll set it up tonight with a temperature problem and take some measurements (if I can borrow one)

conrad.maranan
12-07-2004, 02:06 AM
Dude. I'm in the process of making the same type of contraption. It's definitely a good idea.

Orker
12-07-2004, 02:09 AM
EDIT: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47413

bacon
12-07-2004, 02:16 AM
errm no pic but i just have a case fan pointing at it zip tied to the bar the psu rests on

seems ok so far

cinders
12-07-2004, 02:19 AM
Can everyone post a pic of their cooling for the ram... Would be very interesting to know how you are all keeping your booster and VX cool :)

Heres mine...btw "not as cool" means that end doesnt have a 120mm fan blowing on it

Maybe we should start a new thread on this?... I've seen some watercooled ram-coolers going about, now those are cool!... (literally -he he)

I'll have some pics of my device tonight. 7 hours to go... :mad:

RocKer
12-07-2004, 02:50 AM
Whohooo VX is in the house :banana: ,test results are coming later :toast: .

Orker
12-07-2004, 02:53 AM
Maybe we should start a new thread on this?... I've seen some watercooled ram-coolers going about, now those are cool!... (literally -he he)

I'll have some pics of my device tonight. 7 hours to go... :mad:

K ill start a new thread :)

bacon
12-07-2004, 02:56 AM
Whohooo VX is in the house :banana: ,test results are coming later :toast: .

do us all a favour and whack them in at 3.5v and see what they will do :D go for past 260, me and a mate have hit same barrier on clocks, i.e 260 2-2-2-5 @3.5v, id love to see some doing 265 or even 270+

Orker
12-07-2004, 03:08 AM
do us all a favour and whack them in at 3.5v and see what they will do :D go for past 260, me and a mate have hit same barrier on clocks, i.e 260 2-2-2-5 @3.5v, id love to see some doing 265 or even 270+

Thats just so not a reality for me now.. Im hoping they burn in successfully and i can be 250 2-2-2-10 stable @ 3.5v

RocKer
12-07-2004, 04:10 AM
Is it normal that i have to give 3.0vdimm on the VX stick(1x512mb) when at 11x200.

I can't get it stable at 11x200 at vdimm 2.6v,2.7v,2.8v and 2.9v.

Can somebody give me the best settings to burn'in the VX stick,the do get hot isn'it,but i got a big blower on it now and its pretty cool now:).

RocKer
12-07-2004, 04:22 AM
do us all a favour and whack them in at 3.5v and see what they will do :D go for past 260, me and a mate have hit same barrier on clocks, i.e 260 2-2-2-5 @3.5v, id love to see some doing 265 or even 270+
I did that(9x260@3.5v),but it didn't work,,nothing worked had to bring it back to 11x200 to work,so i will now work my way up to 260 maybe 270 :banana: .

On the same board+cpu my corsairs hit 9x275fsb 3.6v,not prime stable,9x270 3.5v was prime stable.

Orker
12-07-2004, 04:40 AM
Here are some VX benchies

To sum it up

1000 extra in 3dmark01.... 200 extra in 3dmark03.... LOTS more bandwidth in sandra ... 38ns in everest..previously 43 something... 32 superpi ..previously 33 and 34...

im able to run a slighty higher cpu clock now that im running 1:1... its hard to explain but before it could either be 2600 or 2700 .. now its in the middle

So far im memtest86 Test #5 stable @ 240 2-2-2-10 with 3.5v... going to run memtest tonight at 245.. then the next night 250 and so on

prime doesnt agree though

Coming from EB which didnt like my board, this feels good... Cant wait for my DFI SLI which will no doubt like the idea of 260 2-2-2-10

http://img85.exs.cx/img85/9450/VXBENCHIES.jpg

DevilsRejection
12-07-2004, 05:51 AM
Here are some VX benchies

To sum it up

1000 extra in 3dmark01.... 200 extra in 3dmark03.... LOTS more bandwidth in sandra ... 38ns in everest..previously 43 something... 32 superpi ..previously 33 and 34...

im able to run a slighty higher cpu clock now that im running 1:1... its hard to explain but before it could either be 2600 or 2700 .. now its in the middle

So far im memtest86 Test #5 stable @ 240 2-2-2-10 with 3.5v... going to run memtest tonight at 245.. then the next night 250 and so on

prime doesnt agree though

Coming from EB which didnt like my board, this feels good... Cant wait for my DFI SLI which will no doubt like the idea of 260 2-2-2-10


awsome just awsome. im going to be building exact same setup cept with a x800xt. dude that sandra score, try and break 7k :toast:

cantankerous
12-07-2004, 06:41 AM
WEEEE! Just recieved confirmation that my VX has been processed and shipped. Please everybody pray that I can get these to 260.

st0nedpenguin
12-07-2004, 07:27 AM
Is it normal that i have to give 3.0vdimm on the VX stick(1x512mb) when at 11x200.

I can't get it stable at 11x200 at vdimm 2.6v,2.7v,2.8v and 2.9v.

Can somebody give me the best settings to burn'in the VX stick,the do get hot isn'it,but i got a big blower on it now and its pretty cool now:).

It's rated at 3.2v for 200MHz 2-2-2...

cantankerous
12-07-2004, 10:47 AM
It's rated at 3.2v for 200MHz 2-2-2...

this is very true. My sticks today wouldn't do 222fsb 2-2-2 timings with even 3.1v. I only had 2-4 errors per pass mind you but it wasn't stable. Putting it to 3.2v it did 11 passes of memtest #5 without any errors. Got a blue screen in windows still though. Any idea why? So far these seem to do the same or better on the high end of the voltage than my BH but worse on the lower end. My BH-6 is 222fsb stable at only 3.1v with no BSOD in Windows where as at same FSB the VX needs 3.2v to be memtest stable but still BSOD in windows.

The max my board can do is 3.3v and I managed to test the sticks up to 240 at 3.3v. I have not tested any higher so maybe a few more fsb at that volts will be possible. I did not want to run the ram at 3.3v for long periods of time as I don't have acting cooling on it at the moment. Just ordering a Zalman FB123 bracket for them today. Hopefully that will be good enough.

Does 240 at 3.3v sound like I have half decently strong memory? I would love to get these things to 260fsb or higher if all possible. Not sure if 0.3v more will get me 20+ more fsb stable. Who knows. Anyone else here able to get 240 with less than 3.3v or is 3.3v standard for that speeds.

I only have my NFII board which means I can't test farther than 3.3v until I get my DFI NF4 board when it comes out with a booster. With acting cooling I plan on using 3.6v to see what I can obtain. Until then I will see the highest I can get on only 3.3v and burn in all I can until I get my new board. Sound like a good plan? I am open to any suggestions.

BTW.. as I am paranoid I am wondering... I was running the ram at 3.3v with no cooling for about 1 hour. Do you think that hurt the ram or will hamper its ability in the long run from the heat it built up at those volts? They were warm to the touch but nothing I couldn't keep my finger on.

Thanks guys.

Rabbi_NZ
12-07-2004, 11:31 AM
Got my set last night... here are some results from initial testing, system as in sig:

1st stick 7x250 3.3v 2-2-2-10 1T MemTest #5 10 loops no errors
2nd stick 7x250 3.3v 2-2-2-10 1T MemTest #5 10 loops no errors
2x512 7x240 3.2v 2-2-2-10 1T MemTest #5 40 loops no errors
2x512 7x245 3.2v 2-2-2-10 1T MemTest #5 20 loops no errors
2x512 7x250 3.2v 2-2-2-10 1T MemTest #5 20 loops no errors
2x512 7x250 3.2v 2-2-2-10 1T Prime Blend 1 hour & SuperPI 32MB no errors
2x512 10x250 3.2vdimm 1.61vcore 2-2-2-10 1T Prime Blend 8 hour no errors
2x512 9x260 3.2vdimm 1.55vcore 2-2-2-10 1T errors in MemTest #5
2x512 9x259 3.2vdimm 1.55vcore 2-2-2-10 1T errors in MemTest #5
2x512 9x260 3.3vdimm 1.55vcore 2-2-2-10 1T MemTest #5 3 loops no errors

Currently looping, no errors after 5 loops....
2x512 9x258 3.2vdimm 1.55vcore 2-2-2-10 1T MemTest #5


This is my first OCZ purchase and definately not my last... after reports of great RMA and Support services the only thing I was worried about was how well these would perform... Thanks for an amazing product OCZ!

cantankerous
12-07-2004, 11:32 AM
damn. Yours are doing really well to get 250fsb at only 3.2v. Looks like mine aren't so hot if they need 3.3v just to do 240.

Rabbi_NZ
12-07-2004, 12:16 PM
damn. Yours are doing really well to get 250fsb at only 3.2v. Looks like mine aren't so hot if they need 3.3v just to do 240.
I think I have a good mem controller too cantankerous... something tells me "most" of these will do 250 with 3.3v on a good memory controller.

Tony
12-07-2004, 01:08 PM
Well recieved an Epox 9NDA3+ to test, just had to install a vdimm mod ;)

3.3Vdimm with the VX ;)
Sandra is a little picky at the mo as im on an old intel install but everest seems fine. 2.5-2-2- seems better on this board with an older fx53 also but i will test cas2 and cas3 also.

See what you think.

Tony
12-07-2004, 01:31 PM
Second set of benches, now at 260fsb but how stable i don't know.

This was the rams max single channel so im unsure if dual channel is as stable.

nice benches though ;)

cantankerous
12-07-2004, 01:40 PM
Very weird. My ram seems to be doing what Trans Ams ram was doing. Every 15 passes or so at the same address it fails memtest. Up to 15 passes and after 15 passes to the next 15 are memory free. In 50 passes I had 6 errors. Exactly 2 every 15 or so at the same address. Any ideas what this is and why it only happens every 15 passes at the same address?

I had my CPU multi a lot lower than I know is stable to be sure to rule it out. With volts it doesn't seem to help much.

Rabbi_NZ
12-07-2004, 01:46 PM
Very weird. My ram seems to be doing what Trans Ams ram was doing. Every 15 passes or so at the same address it fails memtest. Up to 15 passes and after 15 passes to the next 15 are memory free. In 50 passes I had 6 errors. Exactly 2 every 15 or so at the same address. Any ideas what this is and why it only happens every 15 passes at the same address?

I had my CPU multi a lot lower than I know is stable to be sure to rule it out. With volts it doesn't seem to help much.
One of my spreaders had lifted off a couple of the memory chips in transit... I pressed them back down and they seem to be sticking well now, maybe the heat helps them set..??

If one of your memory chips is not making good contact it is just in the equivalent of an oven... sounds like only one of your chips is JUST at its limits. Maybe it will burn in, but maybe it is overheating... take a look.

cantankerous
12-07-2004, 01:49 PM
the memory range is anywhere from 170-186 meaning the first dimm. Please don't tell me the chip has reached its limit... it does the same errors at 210!!!!

Oh I would so cry....

Orker
12-07-2004, 03:16 PM
awsome just awsome. im going to be building exact same setup cept with a x800xt. dude that sandra score, try and break 7k :toast:

Thx.... Yeh i want 7k :)

DevilsRejection
12-07-2004, 03:58 PM
do you have 1t enabled?

Rabbi_NZ
12-07-2004, 04:03 PM
Just a quick question bout the DFI 250gb... CPC Enabled=1T & CPC Disabled=2T right?

bacon
12-07-2004, 04:13 PM
Just a quick question bout the DFI 250gb... CPC Enabled=1T & CPC Disabled=2T right?


indeed

Orker
12-07-2004, 04:44 PM
do you have 1t enabled?

yep

bios settings as seen in sig

DevilsRejection
12-07-2004, 06:17 PM
i must be blind where does it say it :confused: :(

Orker
12-07-2004, 06:24 PM
This ram has enabled a higher STABLE cpu clock and has decreased my cpu temp :eek:

It really does get better with time btw

prime95 is the only thing now thats bothering me... Even with more voltage it still fails

DevilsRejection, attached pic for you

Rabbi_NZ
12-07-2004, 06:30 PM
Seems strange my modules are doing so much better... I will share my entire timings tomoro.

One thing I did is set my timings according to these suggestions here @ DFI-Street (http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=33536#post33536)... I set most timings more towards the loose side of the spectrum... but am still running 2-2-2-10-1T

bacon
12-07-2004, 06:35 PM
Seems strange my modules are doing so much better... I will share my entire timings tomoro.

One thing I did is set my timings according to these suggestions here @ DFI-Street (http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=33536#post33536)... I set most timings more towards the loose side of the spectrum... but am still running 2-2-2-10-1T

sorry man iv forgotten what you have reached, was it 255 with 3.2v?

I need 3.5v as it started to error with 3.4v if left for more than an hour on memtest

HiJon89
12-07-2004, 06:41 PM
prime95 is the only thing now thats bothering me... Even with more voltage it still fails
Don't worry, Prime95 has a compatibiltiy issue with 90nm CPU's, you're fine :toast:

Rabbi_NZ
12-07-2004, 06:43 PM
havent tested past 250 properly yet, but Memtest seems 100% stable at 256-258 3.2v and I havent burned them in much

10x250 2-2-2-10 3.2v is 8hours+ Prime95, MemTest, SuperPI 32MB stable :)

andyOCZ
12-07-2004, 06:44 PM
This ram has enabled a higher STABLE cpu clock and has decreased my cpu temp :eek:

It really does get better with time btw

prime95 is the only thing now thats bothering me... Even with more voltage it still fails

DevilsRejection, attached pic for you

With the 90nm CPU Prime is not going to run. Try P95v at 200fsb like I did and watch it fail. I also had it fail at 250fsb on the MSI Neo2 also with the 90nm 3500+ running TCCD at 2.5-3-3-8 and 3.0v. This RAM can run Prime95 with the same timings and voltage for 24 hours before I stop it on the DFI UT 754 board running both sticks!

There is a serious issue with 90nm and P95.

Rabbi_NZ
12-07-2004, 06:47 PM
andyOCZ, congrats on the moderator job :toast:... didnt realise you were a mod

DevilsRejection
12-07-2004, 06:49 PM
but if 90nm sucks @ prime then y r some people prime stable?

aCidbAbY
12-07-2004, 06:52 PM
Seems strange my modules are doing so much better... I will share my entire timings tomoro.

One thing I did is set my timings according to these suggestions here @ DFI-Street (http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=33536#post33536)... I set most timings more towards the loose side of the spectrum... but am still running 2-2-2-10-1T
sooo!!! show me an a64 tweaker :toast:
what kinda bandwith are you getting?

Rabbi_NZ
12-07-2004, 06:58 PM
sooo!!! show me an a64 tweaker :toast:
what kinda bandwith are you getting?

I dont have AMD Tweaker or internet access at home... for now.
But if someone can offer picture hosting for me I can email some screenies tomoro morning (NZ time)
I can only access internet from work for the time being and all free-hosting sites are blocked.

If someone could email A64 Tweaker and the latest CPU-Z to me it would be great too hehehehe

aCidbAbY
12-07-2004, 07:10 PM
i aggree with orker b4 i could only get 2.5ghz stable now i got 2.55ghz and i can boot into windows with 2.59ghz:D

This ram has enabled a higher STABLE cpu clock and has decreased my cpu temp :eek:

It really does get better with time btw

prime95 is the only thing now thats bothering me... Even with more voltage it still fails

DevilsRejection, attached pic for you

Orker
12-07-2004, 07:31 PM
With the 90nm CPU Prime is not going to run. Try P95v at 200fsb like I did and watch it fail. I also had it fail at 250fsb on the MSI Neo2 also with the 90nm 3500+ running TCCD at 2.5-3-3-8 and 3.0v. This RAM can run Prime95 with the same timings and voltage for 24 hours before I stop it on the DFI UT 754 board running both sticks!

There is a serious issue with 90nm and P95.

Cool thanks.. I just wont bother with it.. I hope they patch it soon


Something else strange but GOOD is happening to my VX ... I can now do 2-2-2-10 245mhz at 3.3v!! The voltage requirement has shrunk


http://img50.exs.cx/img50/9605/memtest86245.jpg

andyOCZ
12-08-2004, 12:43 AM
but if 90nm sucks @ prime then y r some people prime stable?

It seems that P95 may run on a 90nm for hours today and then 90 minutes tomorrow, the maybe 12 min, 3 hours, etc. The results apperar to be completely random. So someone may post as stable in P95, but are they? I can't run it more than an hour at 200fsb with relaxed timings. All my gear is good stuff too. That's proof enough for me.

aCidbAbY
12-08-2004, 01:23 AM
Cool thanks.. I just wont bother with it.. I hope they patch it soon


Something else strange but GOOD is happening to my VX ... I can now do 2-2-2-10 245mhz at 3.3v!! The voltage requirement has shrunk




mee too but i left mine higher.

have you noticed that we have so far had almost exactly the same expeirience with this ram? wth :toast:

Orker
12-08-2004, 02:51 AM
mee too but i left mine higher.

have you noticed that we have so far had almost exactly the same expeirience with this ram? wth :toast:


lol i have noticed that

hopefully i will soon be able to pass 250 like you :toast:

I think i will get pass 250 easily if i had a DFI board

cinders
12-08-2004, 03:40 AM
Can we start placing all our testing in the Official OCZ VX Thread as this one is getting so long....

Orker
12-08-2004, 04:14 AM
Can we start placing all our testing in the Official OCZ VX Thread as this one is getting so long....

yeh ive been wanting to do that but figured id wait until i think im at my highest possible oc :)

cantankerous
12-08-2004, 08:10 AM
Orker make that 3 sets that are close to the same. I have tested 167 passes this morning at 243 3.3v. I haven't tested higher but will do 244 and 245 at 3.3v later today. I hope I can pass like you did. Yesterday anything over 240 errored at 3.3v so I'm quite happy.

odb
12-08-2004, 08:30 AM
what does this ram do at say 2.85v my max on my neo2 till my rambooster i got coming arrives? 2-3-3-8 is on the sticker at what voltage, will 2.85v be enough?


picked it up at the post office this morning, w00t.

cinders
12-08-2004, 08:57 AM
what does this ram do at say 2.85v my max on my neo2 till my rambooster i got coming arrives? 2-3-3-8 is on the sticker at what voltage, will 2.85v be enough?


picked it up at the post office this morning, w00t.


Just whack it in tonight, use 2.85v and start of at say 3-3-3-7 1T with memtest running loop #5 - then increase your FSB gradually until it starts getting errors - then leave it over night running - this will get your burn-in started at least!

I'd leave it running like this until you get your booster. This is what I did to start mine, as I was waiting for my new PSU before installing my DDR Booster the next day.

cinders
12-08-2004, 08:58 AM
P.S. 2-3-3-8 is at 3.2v ( I think )

odb
12-08-2004, 09:08 AM
helps to look at the product page i guess, i was sorry obsessed with trying to find a place that had this stuff i never looked at the ocz site heh.


CL 2-3-3-8 at 2.6V
CL 2-2-2-8 at 3.2V

SteveOCZ
12-08-2004, 10:55 AM
Another store in the USA with the stuff

http://www.directron.com/ocz4001024.html

odb
12-08-2004, 11:33 AM
220mhz @ 2-3-3-10 @ 2.85v

looping memtest86+ v 1.3 for 20 tests this seems the max right now for me, after that i get errors every 5 tests.

Fixed Address Good Bad Error Bits

0002ec6e0e8 - 748.8 fbffffff fb7fffff 00800000
0002fc6c0c8 - 764.4 fbffffff fb7fffff 00800000

Torin
12-08-2004, 11:34 AM
Damn that stuff performs a lot like CH-5.....

Rabbi_NZ
12-08-2004, 11:47 AM
Damn that stuff performs a lot like CH-5.....
If I could post a few screenies I think it would damn near discount that theory Torin... ;)

can anybody do some image hosting for me please? I can email the screenies but I cant use free image hosting sites cos they are blocked at work and I have no home email right now.

[EDIT]
Update on my VX:

9x258 3.2vdimm 1.55vcore 2-2-2-10 MemTest all day yesterday : 6000-7000 errors in 400-500 passes of test #5.
10x256 3.2vdimm 1.61vcore 2-2-2-10 : SuperPI 32MB passes, Prime-Blend failed after 30 minutes
10x256 3.2vdimm 1.65vcore 2-2-2-10 : Prime-Blend 11hours no errors

7x257 3.2vdimm 1.55vcore 2-2-2-10 : currently looping Memtest test #5 while at work....

ryanpgroovy
12-08-2004, 11:48 AM
you wont get to far without high voltage :/

DevilsRejection
12-08-2004, 12:52 PM
Another store in the USA with the stuff

http://www.directron.com/ocz4001024.html

seems im the only one who purchased from mwave?

any of you purchase from mwave lmk!

conrad.maranan
12-08-2004, 01:10 PM
I didn't buy my VX from mWave, but I'm there almost every week.

cantankerous
12-08-2004, 01:34 PM
The max I can do is 243 at 3.3v on my DFI Lanparty B. At 244 I get a few errors every now and then. I hope to burn them out but it seems I'm at my limit. I hope with a new board and a booster to get 260 at least. I wish I had something else to test on.

The weird thing is this, no matter how memtest stable the sticks are windows is havok. Even at 220fsb with 3.3v I get my firefox closing itself out as well as random reboots and blue screens. Making me worry. I hope it's only because the sticks aren't exactly tailored for my board and chipset. My OCZ BH-6 based 3200 Plat. Ltd. Ed. are also 2 X 512 and can hold up quite well with only 3.1v. Oh well any input especially from the OCZ guys themselves would be appreciated.

Rabbi_NZ
12-08-2004, 01:40 PM
Screenie of 10x256 2-2-2-10-1T Prime-Blend 10hrs+ Stable 3.2vdimm 1.65vcore 2x512 OCZ VX (http://webpages.charter.net/conrad-digital/Rabbi_NZ/10x256%202-2-2-10%20Prime%20Stable.JPG)
Screenie of 10x256 2-2-2-10-1T Sandra Memory Bandwidth 3.2vdimm 1.65vcore 2x512 OCZ VX (http://webpages.charter.net/conrad-digital/Rabbi_NZ/10x256%202-2-2-10%20Sandra%20Memory.JPG)
Screenie of 10x256 2-2-2-10-1T SuperPI 32MB 3.2vdimm 1.61vcore 2x512 OCZ VX (http://webpages.charter.net/conrad-digital/Rabbi_NZ/10x256%202-2-2-10%20SuperPI.JPG)

In all the excitement I forgot to add CPU-Z shots to most of the screenies... and the screenies I did put CPU-Z on didnt show mem speed... so ya'll gona need to trust me on this until I get more pics... should have more tomoro... hopefully at 10x260 :)

BIG THANKS TO conrad.maranan FOR HOSTING THESE FOR ME :toast:

[EDIT]
Does anybody know why Sandra says "2CMD" when I am running CPC Enabled?
Does my bandwidth look like it's 1T or 2T?

DevilsRejection
12-08-2004, 01:54 PM
rabbi_nz, whats that application where it does prime but it has that pretty interface? can you post a link or send it to me via gmail, i can take big attaxhments hehe.

my gmail is my user id here @gmail.com

Rabbi_NZ
12-08-2004, 01:58 PM
DevilsRejection,
it's called SP2004 I think... it's basically just Prime95 but it shows the run time so you dont have to stop the application to find out how long you've run it for only to see it's 23:59 hours hehehe

I dont have it here... Im at work. But if you search for it I'm sure it will pop up... if not, I will email it to you tomoro

DevilsRejection
12-08-2004, 02:06 PM
found it, too all those curious:

http://sp2004.fre3.com/

EDIT: I just write down when i started test and walk away so this is just another pretty app with no purpose lol.

andyOCZ
12-08-2004, 02:18 PM
The max I can do is 243 at 3.3v on my DFI Lanparty B. At 244 I get a few errors every now and then. I hope to burn them out but it seems I'm at my limit. I hope with a new board and a booster to get 260 at least. I wish I had something else to test on.

The weird thing is this, no matter how memtest stable the sticks are windows is havok. Even at 220fsb with 3.3v I get my firefox closing itself out as well as random reboots and blue screens. Making me worry. I hope it's only because the sticks aren't exactly tailored for my board and chipset. My OCZ BH-6 based 3200 Plat. Ltd. Ed. are also 2 X 512 and can hold up quite well with only 3.1v. Oh well any input especially from the OCZ guys themselves would be appreciated.

DO NOT USE THE BOOSTER ON THE DFI NF2B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You will be buying a new mobo as it will smoke. I have a dead one laying here and I know of at least one more that a buddy has (that he tried after I warned him).

I am not sure how the VX does in NF2, but please remember there always has been a 2 x 512mb issue with CPC on.

Maybe someone at OCZ has tested. I will try and find out for you.

Orker
12-08-2004, 03:26 PM
well i tried to run 3dmark01 on loop last night and i woke up to see the "encountered an error" message :(

Prime unstable... Memtest86 stable, no errors test #5

This is at settings in sig... Would a format help?? Last formated about 3-4 weeks ago

andyOCZ
12-08-2004, 04:39 PM
well i tried to run 3dmark01 on loop last night and i woke up to see the "encountered an error" message :(

Prime unstable... Memtest86 stable, no errors test #5

This is at settings in sig... Would a format help?? Last formated about 3-4 weeks ago

From what I have been experiencing I'll wager that your CPU is not able to do 2640mhz stable. I would try lowering your multi to 10 and see how that goes. Curse me if I'm wrong. :)

DevilsRejection
12-08-2004, 04:45 PM
you would be surprised how well a full format will help, after you install windows just install drivers, prime then 3dmark, then let it go

EDIT: I've had systems that wouldn't prime and it would crash at random times, so I just redid windows and only installed windows and prime, know what happened? prime stable for 72 hours lol.

Orker
12-08-2004, 04:47 PM
From what I have been experiencing I'll wager that your CPU is not able to do 2640mhz stable. I would try lowering your multi to 10 and see how that goes. Curse me if I'm wrong. :)


Well thats PRECISELY what i just did

10 x 240 = 2400mhz 1.678vcore 2-2-2-10 240mhz 3.4v

and now im prime stable and passing!

I will try 10 x 250 coz 2500mhz is a respectable oc for cpu and probably my max stable then

But i was prime stable at 2600mhz on my old setup with this cpu which leads me to believe that the on die memory controller cant keep up with the uberL33t speeds of 240 2-2-2-10 @ 3.4v


With regards to the discussion is official vx results threads about prime95, this reinforces my belief that prime is fine and its just the winnies that cant keep up with very high ram speeds... Prime is the ultimate test for overall stability and still is imho

DevilsRejection
12-08-2004, 04:51 PM
orker, what fan you have on your xp-90?

Orker
12-08-2004, 05:13 PM
orker, what fan you have on your xp-90?

An aerocool aluminium one.. It only pushes about 40 cfm but according to a review i read where they tested a 40cfm and the panfilo 60cfm, there was only a 1C difference... I love aluminium.. hence lian li v1000 case aswell :D

cantankerous
12-08-2004, 05:19 PM
Hi Andy,

worry not I didn't use a booster on my board. I followed every thread I could find on the booster when you guys first made mention of it back in the early summer. I was thoroughly dissapointed when it wouldn't work on the DFI boards so never did go out and buy it. I understand about the issue of NF2 and 2 X 512mb dimms however my 2 X 512 BH-6 from you guys holds up fine. Not very high on the fsb but 222 with 3.1v memtest, 3dmark and prime stable. I can run up to 243 with 3.3v in memtest but 222 with 3.3v in windows causes me problems. I am sure the memory is just fine as memtest goes for hours at a time with no errors. I am hoping it is just a chipset compatibility with this ram as it is quite new and the bioses being older for these boards weren't tailored for this ram whatever it is. I wish DFI would hurry up and offer their new boards so I can jump off this NF2 ship and onto something bigger and better.

thanks for looking into whatever you can do.

DevilsRejection
12-08-2004, 05:24 PM
http://www.silenx.com/productcart/pc/configurePrdz.asp?idcategory=4&idproduct=98

i just picked that up, should be getting it morrow.

Orker
12-08-2004, 06:43 PM
k so far

as previously stated 10x240 2-2-2-10 3.4v ---- PRIME STABLE

I just tried 10x250 2-2-2-10 3.5v----PRIME UNSTABLE

Ill now try some more vcore... 1.55x10% = 1.7 vcore and see if im stable then

Otherwise it looks like ill have to settle for something around 10x240 2-2-2-10 3.4v :(

Whats the max vcore and temp for winnies?

DevilsRejection
12-08-2004, 06:49 PM
k so far

as previously stated 10x240 2-2-2-10 3.4v ---- PRIME STABLE

I just tried 10x250 2-2-2-10 3.5v----PRIME UNSTABLE

Ill now try some more vcore... 1.55x10% = 1.7 vcore and see if im stable then

Otherwise it looks like ill have to settle for something around 10x240 2-2-2-10 3.4v :(
1t? if so then don't be upset, thats plenttttyyyy fast. :slobber:

Orker
12-08-2004, 06:51 PM
1t? if so then don't be upset, thats plenttttyyyy fast. :slobber:

Thanks for the nice words :) .. The claim i made yesterday and acidbaby shared the view, that this ram enabled me to clock higher for cpu is wrong for me.. at least in terms of prime.. and prime is correct coz i get random freezes and rebooting when doing this like internet browsing and levels like 11*240 :(

DevilsRejection
12-08-2004, 06:57 PM
wat week is your 3500+? where you get it from if you remember?

Orker
12-08-2004, 07:25 PM
wat week is your 3500+? where you get it from if you remember?

Dont know what week, but i bought it about a month ago from an USA ebay seller who had heaps of them

It can do 2600mhz prime stable on with my old 3700EB @ 217mhz 3-2-2-10 but cant seem to hold a high speed with lots of bandwidth :(

Rabbi_NZ
12-08-2004, 07:33 PM
Orker,
something a few guys have told me that I will test tonight is that the memory controller tends to give up "before the CPU" in a lot of instances...

Eg, a memory controller may be able to do 240 RAMHz @ 1.5v, 245 RAMHz @ 1.55v, 250 RAMHz @ 1.6v etc.... Now, the CPU may be able to do 2500MHz @ 1.5v when the memory controller is withing its limits (eg, 240 RAMHz)... so 10x250 will need AT LEAST 1.6v.

I'm not sure if that theory is correct but will start testing it tonight like I said... if it is true (or close to it) we will have to treat the AMD64 as two different components (CPU & NB)... Eg, just like older nF2 platform, but this time vcore & vdd need to be the same..

aCidbAbY
12-08-2004, 08:33 PM
k so far

as previously stated 10x240 2-2-2-10 3.4v ---- PRIME STABLE

I just tried 10x250 2-2-2-10 3.5v----PRIME UNSTABLE

Ill now try some more vcore... 1.55x10% = 1.7 vcore and see if im stable then

Otherwise it looks like ill have to settle for something around 10x240 2-2-2-10 3.4v :(

Whats the max vcore and temp for winnies?


dude all ive been hearing about these winchesters is that they dont pass prime when oced. try something different as a test!!! do some loops or something!

andyOCZ
12-08-2004, 08:45 PM
Hi Andy,

worry not I didn't use a booster on my board. I followed every thread I could find on the booster when you guys first made mention of it back in the early summer. I was thoroughly dissapointed when it wouldn't work on the DFI boards so never did go out and buy it. I understand about the issue of NF2 and 2 X 512mb dimms however my 2 X 512 BH-6 from you guys holds up fine. Not very high on the fsb but 222 with 3.1v memtest, 3dmark and prime stable. I can run up to 243 with 3.3v in memtest but 222 with 3.3v in windows causes me problems. I am sure the memory is just fine as memtest goes for hours at a time with no errors. I am hoping it is just a chipset compatibility with this ram as it is quite new and the bioses being older for these boards weren't tailored for this ram whatever it is. I wish DFI would hurry up and offer their new boards so I can jump off this NF2 ship and onto something bigger and better.

thanks for looking into whatever you can do.

I seems that you are doing pretty well from what I can find out. It's pretty much as you suspect, more than likely a memory controller issue. I think DFI is getting pretty close with their new boards. So hang in! A64 around the corner man.

conrad.maranan
12-08-2004, 08:51 PM
I've got a surprise for you guys tomorrow. I just hope it's a good one. :D

DevilsRejection
12-08-2004, 09:11 PM
I've got a surprise for you guys tomorrow. I just hope it's a good one. :D
WHAT IS IT OMG I HATE SURPRISES

aCidbAbY
12-08-2004, 09:24 PM
WHAT IS IT OMG I HATE SURPRISES
roflmao :D

Orker
12-09-2004, 02:42 AM
Orker,
something a few guys have told me that I will test tonight is that the memory controller tends to give up "before the CPU" in a lot of instances...



This is just SO TRUE

Ok guys after benching and trying different settings all week the only one i am prime stable at is:

240*10 2-2-2-10

Even though i am memtest86 test #5 stable with no errors @ 250 2-2-2-10 3.5v (see pic) , i cannot prime with cpu clock over 2500mhz :(

I tried the absolute max vcore at 250 and it did nothing.. even 245! it fails
Now i can also say its not prime... 32m loop failed and 3dmark01 crashed sometime last night

Is the mem controller going to be revised in january? If not, im seriously considering getting an FX53 or wont that make a difference.. I really never want to spend so much on a cpu but 2400mhz suxzorz

cantankerous
12-09-2004, 06:55 AM
Thanks Andy..

My getting 243 is ONLY memtest stable. My chipset is very weak on my board and will get no where near that when windows loads and dual channel is running etc. My BH-6 based memory can memtest into the mid 240's with no issues however with CPC on I can't do a lick over 222 in windows. Really discouraging. I hope I can get 260 out of this memory on a new board with a booster. Only 17mhz away from my goal. I sure hope my memory doesn't crap out by then.

So I take it you have word the DFI's are coming soon?

Nanobot
12-09-2004, 06:59 AM
FYI for canadians looking for VX Gold:

VX 1Gig kits are available here at
http://www.poklik.com/ ,they are located in Montreal.
They sell OCZ memory exclusively.

The price for the VX is not listed on their site but I was told $326.00 CAD*best price in canada*

VX Gold is in extremely limited stock in canada so if you want one better move on it NOW!

st0nedpenguin
12-09-2004, 07:00 AM
I'm not sure if that theory is correct but will start testing it tonight like I said... if it is true (or close to it) we will have to treat the AMD64 as two different components (CPU & NB)... Eg, just like older nF2 platform, but this time vcore & vdd need to be the same..

Could be difficult to do seeing as though there's no way of seperating the two, and also no way of supplying differing vcore and vdd. :(

cantankerous
12-09-2004, 10:17 AM
I can vouche for the rarity in Canada. That is also the best price. I payed 339 for my kit which was the best price until this.

RocKer
12-09-2004, 10:56 AM
I am now at 10x245 at 3.3vdimm 1.7vcore,it has run for 2 days at 10x244 3.3v,and everyday i go up 1,so 2morow i will set it at 246 an till am at 250 or beyond ;) ,it is stable have run a few pifast,superpi and ontop off it all i'am running D2OL 24/7,so i think its stable:),if it isn't i eat my pants:lol:.

Screenie's are following when the rig is connected to the net,i think that will be 2morow or next day.

That 9x265(3.4v) in my sig was also stable,i've run it for 2days and nights,but did'nt make a sreen,forgot it

DevilsRejection
12-09-2004, 11:22 AM
my ocz vx just came today from mwave!!!

now I just wait for newegg tommorow to stock in some retail 3500+ and I am set for next week!

EDIT: Dammit newegg, changed eta from this friday to this coming monday :(

I guess it is same thing because if it was friday and I overnighted it I wouldn't have got it till monday anyway, so ima probably overnight it when i order on monday.

Rabbi_NZ
12-09-2004, 11:43 AM
OK, I am now almost certain our memory controllers are bailing on us before this mem even gets going... I'd like to see some of the guys with GOOD NewCastles & FX chips to share their results, I have a feeling their VX modules will "magically" be able to clock higher with less VDimm...

I say this because I KNOW my CPU is at it's limits well before these babies even break a sweat... @ 3.2vdimm my modules are SOLID at 256 2-2-2 and only generate 8 errrors in 10hours of memtest at 257 2-2-2 with the same 3.2vdimm... more burn in and they will be SOLID there too I think. Then with 3.3v they are good to at least 260 2-2-2 but then my CPU needs a big hike in VCore to keep pace.

Once conrad... CHECK YOUR EMAILS DUDE! hehehe... hosts my screenie from last night you will see where I'm at with 2x512MB VX ;).

When I get another chance I will run my best stick on its own with the max VDimm I can giv it, about 3.35v I think cos my 3.3vRail is only 3.47v... it will be interesting to see if my results get better, or at least if less VCore is required. Currently my max stable is at 3.3vdimm (3.29v real) and 3.4vdimm (~3.35v real) gets me no where higher... but raising vcore does.

cantankerous
12-09-2004, 01:31 PM
I know this may be hard to answer but if you can please do. In terms of the VX vs. BH, which do you think tops out higher on average? I ask this because I am wondering if my purchase of the VX was even worth it as it seems yet again I have poor luck when buying parts to overclock. At 3.3v I can get my BH-6 to 245 rock stable for hours on end. With the VX I can only do the same at 243. Not a huge difference I know however I bought the VX hoping it would be better than my BH if not the same. It is turning out to be worse. Burning in most of the week now has proved no gains.

I am running both sticks on my DFI Lanparty B board which is an NF2 setup. Most if not all are running A64 setups. I know its not my controller crapping out due to high speeds as same timings as my BH give me 2 more fsb without a hassle. There is no point in keeping both pairs around and since my BH is doing better I might as well sell off my VX. I am wondering if in the long run this will be worth it though. I mean, can BH-5/6 sticks do 260 with 3.5/6 volts or do they usually crap out before then? It is known that the VX can do 260 with those volts so am wondering. Will it be worth keeping the VX cause even though it is clocking lower now it may pick up on the top end where as the BH will crap out? Do you think with an A64 based chipset the VX will do better than 243 at 3.3v?

I know this is all hypothetical as no concrete answer can be found however if you have any ideas or if anyone else has BH and VX sticks that they compared together I would appreciate your results. Until I get a new board with a booster it is hard to tell however I now have $800 canadian worth of ram sitting here where one pair clearly isn't doing leaps and bounds over the other. I might as well sell one and get some of my money back.

Thanks again and sorry for my rambling.

BeSaiD
12-09-2004, 01:36 PM
I now have $800 canadian worth of ram sitting here where one pair clearly isn't doing leaps and bounds over the other. I might as well sell one and get some of my money back.


People like me would like to buy your Vx :D

Rabbi_NZ
12-09-2004, 01:41 PM
BH does keep scaling... it is VERY VERY similar to VX, apart from the ability of VX to run CAS 3.
Keep in mind you have had your BH for a lot longer than the VX so it has had more time to burn in... in reality they are probably very similar in overclocking ability.

BUT, the biggy bout VX is you can CONFIDENTLY feed them 3.6v (3.5v+5%) and KNOW you are supported by one of the best RMA/Customer Service departments in the industry.

conrad.maranan
12-09-2004, 02:06 PM
Sorry, Alex. I was in a meeting. It's up now...you know where to find it. ;)

I'll be back in a few hours or so.

Rancidelephant
12-09-2004, 02:09 PM
1000 posts :o

Rabbi_NZ
12-09-2004, 02:15 PM
10x260 2-2-2-10-1T 3.3vdimm 1.75vcore ROCK SOLID 100% STABLE with 2x512 VX :D (http://webpages.charter.net/conrad-digital/Rabbi_NZ/10x260%202-2-2-10-1t%20solid.jpg)

Thanks again for the hosting Conrad, appreciated bro