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Orker
12-01-2004, 05:28 AM
GARGAWDAWJDOAWJ!AODK WK
DKAWD
AW!!
WA
A
F!!!!!

I got a call from ExcaliberPC and i have to verify my address becuase its "different" from the address on file with my credit card, so i definately wont be receiving this RAM until monday at the earliest

this happens everytime :brick:

Thats unlucky... Ive learnt to check all paypal stuff before... All that verify crap, and unconfirmed address crap... paypal is hectic at times

Im slowly drifting into insanity after checking my email a thousand times today and signing into excalibre to check my order status hourly!

Joe Camel
12-01-2004, 05:42 AM
ok so NOW they say they (are getting) got another shipment in TODAY (12/1)...here we go again :rolleyes: this shipment better be more than 10 sets... :stick:

im going to have to get it OVERNIGHTED just to make up for yesterday...:mad:

this is SOOO silly, but i feel that i MUST have them...OCZ are you putting drugs :banana4: on these things?

BeSaiD
12-01-2004, 05:42 AM
Sorry, any news about prices in europe? :D

Ol!ver
12-01-2004, 05:53 AM
Let's say it was a freak accident. Which one will die? :stick:


I would imagine the booster and dimms would suffer, can't see if affecting anything else unless they get REAL hot, and I mean flames and sirens ! :D

HTH

Oli

I_Am_ToO_SeXy
12-01-2004, 05:58 AM
available on 6/12 here in italy T_T

<---- have to wait T_T

SteveOCZ
12-01-2004, 06:41 AM
Guys, I have a hypothetical question here. Let say I have a VX and a booster running at 3.5v that is cooled by an 8cm fan placed on top of it. If the fan was accidently moved and the RAM and booster overheats, which hardware will be KIA? Booster, RAM, mobo, or all of them?


I would guess that if the booster somehow failed which I don't think it will with this ram then the voltage would probably drop to the stock voltage your bios has set for the vdimm and I would guess the comptuer would crash so everything else would be fine. The other booster failures were from TCCD ram mainly that draws a lot of current and heats up the booster a lot more. With the VX my booster runs cool and the voltage is totally stable where as with TCCD it runs hotter and there is more shift in the voltage

Steve

SteveOCZ
12-01-2004, 06:43 AM
GARGAWDAWJDOAWJ!AODK WK
DKAWD
AW!!
WA
A
F!!!!!

I got a call from ExcaliberPC and i have to verify my address becuase its "different" from the address on file with my credit card, so i definately wont be receiving this RAM until monday at the earliest

this happens everytime :brick:

Used to happen to me as well so I changed cards. Hope somehow you get your ram this week though :D

jlccarv
12-01-2004, 06:49 AM
This is how I cool my ram -->

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~jlccarv/04120109.JPG

Its screwed into a screw hole on my 2nd HDD, if anyone was wondering :)

Edit: Updated pic

cantankerous
12-01-2004, 07:11 AM
ah nice. I was hoping to see how this was installed. Attaching it your cpu fan would be impossible because of the reach of the FB123. You would be cooling the back of your case to the right of the mobo. =). You can attach any size fan right?

jlccarv
12-01-2004, 07:22 AM
To cool the CPU with this bracket and fan, you would attach the bracket to the PCI mounts on the case; left side where the PCI/AGP cards screw into :)

Yes, any size fan...

starblazer
12-01-2004, 08:49 AM
Just got my tracking number from excaliber. Will be here tomorrow! Can't wait to try it on my DFI Lanparty UT!

cinders
12-01-2004, 08:52 AM
I'm sat hitting refresh waiting for them to come in stock!... They're supposed to be arriving today... Hurry Up!

aCidbAbY
12-01-2004, 09:12 AM
Just got my tracking number from excaliber. Will be here tomorrow! Can't wait to try it on my DFI Lanparty UT!
thats what im throwing mine in. i will be waiting for dfi to do a 939 board b4 i upgrade again. :cool:

Ol!ver
12-01-2004, 09:20 AM
Anyone else find the site is down?

Oli

MarilynMX
12-01-2004, 09:25 AM
When and where I can grab a pair in Canada?? What about from US?

Joe Camel
12-01-2004, 09:25 AM
its up for me...
(same damn thing i did yesterday...refresh refresh refresh...)

cinders
12-01-2004, 09:28 AM
its up for me...
(same damn thing i did yesterday...refresh refresh refresh...)

Looks like the race is on.... :D

Joe Camel
12-01-2004, 09:59 AM
a little birdie told me they dont get shipments in till ABOUT 2pm (PST)...might be a long "race"...

PS i think i already won...;) but thats a tough...CALL (get the hint?)

starblazer
12-01-2004, 10:02 AM
thats what im throwing mine in. i will be waiting for dfi to do a 939 board b4 i upgrade again. :cool:


That's exactly what my strategy is too. I am waiting for the DFI 939 with AGP though cause don't want to waste my x800...

Torin
12-01-2004, 10:06 AM
Any chance we can expect some nf2 results?

cuddles
12-01-2004, 10:09 AM
I get paid tomorrow, but am still too poor until just before Christmas.. I expect full reports from all you VX and future VX owners :)

xgman
12-01-2004, 10:40 AM
Sure is alot of bla bla bla the last couple of days. How about some results?

trans am
12-01-2004, 10:57 AM
Sure is alot of bla bla bla the last couple of days. How about some results?

Well if you can get the ram here sooner than tomorrow, we'll shut up. But until we actually have it, there's nothing else to do but talk about it.

georgesod
12-01-2004, 10:59 AM
Sure is alot of bla bla bla the last couple of days. How about some results?
That's so true :D

ocmyface
12-01-2004, 11:37 AM
since my address is not wrong and it is excaliberpc's fault (they did it last time too) i think im gonna beg for a free 2nd day upgrade :banana:

Rabbi_NZ
12-01-2004, 11:43 AM
damit! has anyone ordered from the new shipment?

I just checked and it was "in stock", so I'm in the process of ordering and decide to go back to check the other shipping options... the order process goes screwy so I have to start from the beginning... Go back to the product page and it's now "out of stock". sheeeeeet!

ocmyface
12-01-2004, 11:50 AM
haha that sucks dude, gotta be fast

i jsut received a tracking number form excaliberpc, so im a little freaked out now, why would they ship it if they thought the address was wrong?!
at least call me and leave a message saying you shipped it to "enter address here"

Joe Camel
12-01-2004, 12:00 PM
damit! has anyone ordered from the new shipment?

I just checked and it was "in stock", so I'm in the process of ordering and decide to go back to check the other shipping options... the order process goes screwy so I have to start from the beginning... Go back to the product page and it's now "out of stock". sheeeeeet!


that was 1 set from the first shipment...they still expect 2nd shipment in around 2pm PST...

Den Leiw
12-01-2004, 12:01 PM
still waiting for my paypal account to become a verified one so that I can finally buy those ram modules

can't wait anymore...

Rabbi_NZ
12-01-2004, 12:20 PM
that was 1 set from the first shipment...they still expect 2nd shipment in around 2pm PST...
What's the PST time right now?
Here in NZ it's already 9:30am Thursday the 2nd hehehehe

[EDIT] I got confused... is it the big hand or the little hand that counts the seasons?

Joe Camel
12-01-2004, 12:47 PM
right...now its....3:50pm (est)...so...12:50 (PST) so about another hour.

GOOD LUCK!!

SteveOCZ
12-01-2004, 02:12 PM
Figred out how to get the bios with 4V going so here is some 1GB shots. Fully stable like the rest as I don't post suicide shots EVER!

I'll see if I can get both to 265 now. Also notice still same 3.4V set in bios shows 3.35V real

http://www.spec3.net/dfi/1024MB260fsb.jpg
http://www.spec3.net/dfi/1024MB4MPi.jpg

cuddles
12-01-2004, 02:14 PM
.. God I want some.

You guys will be shipping out more in the next few weeks, right?

If I can't find any BH5, this stuff is mine.

Rabbi_NZ
12-01-2004, 02:25 PM
.. God I want some.

You guys will be shipping out more in the next few weeks, right?

If I can't find any BH5, this stuff is mine.
Get this stuff even if you find BH5 dude... OCZ guarantee it up to 3.5v and are selling the stuff for an amazing price.
So you get great service, cheap price, unused RAM, and a fantastic guarantee... Though it definately sounds like it I did not intend to kiss so mush a$$ in that post hehe

[EDIT] SteveOCZ... if the girl in that avatar is your girlfriend I'm amazed you have the will-power/retraint to spend so much time on the computer...

zaubara
12-01-2004, 02:25 PM
it's something like:

i would also (like to get-buy) this ram......

eh austrians :stick: ;)

Pff. Slovenians... :stick:

:D

... and to give that post at least a little sense:
Id love to have a pair of those sticks :slobber: ... and trash my tCCsomething! (211@2-2-2-10 only :( )

BTW, will OCZ ever be more available in Austria/Germany? Its like... impossible to get OCZ at local dealers in vienna, and its not only annoying, but also expensive to import stuff from germany.

Greetings

aCidbAbY
12-01-2004, 02:26 PM
Figred out how to get the bios with 4V going so here is some 1GB shots. Fully stable like the rest as I don't post suicide shots EVER!

I'll see if I can get both to 265 now. Also notice still same 3.4V set in bios shows 3.35V real




what pi score are you getting on 1M?

EDIT:::what kind of cooling are you useing on that chip also?

ryanpgroovy
12-01-2004, 02:28 PM
Man some of these benchmarks just amaze me , and I work here.

Everyone seems to out do my benches always.

quicksilverXP
12-01-2004, 02:39 PM
Yeah man... if that's your girl.... you need to stop with the computers already. But what frightens me... is if that girl actually overclocks as well! My god... then she's the perfect woman.

SteveOCZ
12-01-2004, 02:39 PM
what pi score are you getting on 1M?

EDIT:::what kind of cooling are you useing on that chip also?

34s with a basically untweaked system. Ram is tweaked but the other stuff is just day to day :D

TEDY
12-01-2004, 02:40 PM
Get this stuff even if you find BH5 dude... OCZ guarantee it up to 3.5v and are selling the stuff for an amazing price.
So you get great service, cheap price, unused RAM, and a fantastic guarantee... Though it definately sounds like it I did not intend to kiss so mush a$$ in that post hehe

[EDIT] SteveOCZ... if the girl in that avatar is your girlfriend I'm amazed you have the will-power/retraint to spend so much time on the computer...

she's not......but she's friend of him when he used to live in toronto :toast:

she's a kickass "girl" ;)

me gotta move to TO :p:

TEDY
12-01-2004, 02:42 PM
Yeah man... if that's your girl.... you need to stop with the computers already. But what frightens me... is if that girl actually overclocks as well! My god... then she's the perfect woman.

yep a dream girl :toast:

"overclocking your p***s" :D

cuddles
12-01-2004, 02:44 PM
:lol:

It's always suprising to see geeks with girlfriends that are just drop dead gorgeous. Always amazed me at how that happened, I'm one of the lucky ones ;)

Orker
12-01-2004, 02:45 PM
awww i still havent got my fedex tracking number and i placed my order the same time as the other 7members.. this is killing me

SteveOCZ
12-01-2004, 02:49 PM
Estonian girls are hotter....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=428913&postcount=443

Orker
12-01-2004, 02:55 PM
Estonian girls are hotter....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=428913&postcount=443

Where you live is supposed to be the new party town of europe.. I saw a BBC report on it the other day :p

aCidbAbY
12-01-2004, 03:01 PM
:lol:

It's always suprising to see geeks with girlfriends that are just drop dead gorgeous. Always amazed me at how that happened, I'm one of the lucky ones ;)
me too i thought i was the only acctually cool geek! but i was wrong trans_am proved me wrong. there is acctualy a pretty cool crowd out there doing this stuff. i thought it was a bunch of nerds (revenge of the nerds) :stick:

SteveOCZ
12-01-2004, 03:02 PM
Well people sure do like to party here so it wouldn't supprise me. I'd say easily 10-50k people come here from Finland and Sweden every weekend on the boats to party and drink

disco_bazoon
12-01-2004, 03:03 PM
Estonian girls are hotter....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=428913&postcount=443
Just a question; How do you work for OCZ when you live in Estonia? On-Line working? :)

Joe Camel
12-01-2004, 03:06 PM
right...now its....3:50pm (est)...so...12:50 (PST) so about another hour.

GOOD LUCK!!


ok excaliberpc, any time now... :stick:

Orker
12-01-2004, 03:06 PM
me too i thought i was the only acctually cool geek! but i was wrong trans_am proved me wrong. there is acctualy a pretty cool crowd out there doing this stuff. i thought it was a bunch of nerds (revenge of the nerds) :stick:

So true.. I particularly like "there is actually a pretty cool crowd out there doing this stuff"

Now com'on excalibre! :D


ok excaliberpc, any time now... :stick:

Until they get their next shipment in?

Joe Camel
12-01-2004, 03:12 PM
Until they get their next shipment in?


yep, there are like 20 of us (i bet) camping on the VX page waiting for the:

in stock: YES

Brum Man
12-01-2004, 03:34 PM
Any chance we can expect some nf2 results?I'll be getting some in the post about Monday, managed to get my order in last night
:D so I'll post my results on my NF2 DFI Infinity.

Orker
12-01-2004, 03:36 PM
yep, there are like 20 of us (i bet) camping on the VX page waiting for the:

in stock: YES

LMAO "camping"

refresh refresh refresh refresh refresh refresh refresh

Ol!ver
12-01-2004, 03:37 PM
Absolutely sure they're updating the site today? It's a while since it was supposed to happen.....

Was going to wait till I saw some booster/Abit AV8 tests but might order some anyways :D

Cheers

Oli

Orker
12-01-2004, 03:44 PM
I just sent my 2nd "when will this order be shipping plz?" email since yesterday

Dont want to be bothering them, but they still havent replied to the first

Its like a carpark.. You are hunting down that spare place and you go round and round till you do :p

Brum Man
12-01-2004, 03:48 PM
In stock now!

Joe Camel
12-01-2004, 03:49 PM
Now

LOL i called them RIGHT as she was opening the box and updating the in stock...ONE of you got through b4 me...overnight too huh? :toast:

conrad.maranan
12-01-2004, 03:50 PM
Hahaha. This is too funny. You guys are going through the same deal we had to go through yesterday. These are definitely fun times. :D I can't wait until we all start posting up some results to compare with one another.

cuddles
12-01-2004, 03:51 PM
You people and your money! 2 weeks Joe, just 2 weeks...

*rocks back and forth in a corner*

SteveOCZ
12-01-2004, 04:00 PM
Just a question; How do you work for OCZ when you live in Estonia? On-Line working? :)

Yup. Get me a bunch-o-computers here and I tech support away :)

This is me :banana4:

(contains swearing and stuff so kiddy's don't click)
http://www.illwillpress.com/tech.html

Steve

Joe Camel
12-01-2004, 04:03 PM
the thing is, if... IF they dont "rock my world" i can sell them b4 any other pc.com places get them in and maybe make $...thats what i was thinking when i got 2 boosters...ended up keeping both :doh:

Joe Camel
12-01-2004, 04:08 PM
This is me :banana4:

:rocker: :devil:

LOL :banana4: is me too! :buddies:

Tek
12-01-2004, 04:14 PM
I'll get my 1gb of these next week. Promised and confirmed not only from the store(Datatelpartner.dk), but from their supplier, to whom I spoke to personaly :D

The switch from the old PC4400 EL to these was made without question, and also a really good deal on some other hardware.

Love that store and the service :)

Orker
12-01-2004, 04:36 PM
OMG!!! i was definately one of the original 10.. i have my fedex tracking number now baby!!! this is better than sex ;)

Orker
12-01-2004, 04:44 PM
(contains swearing and stuff so kiddy's don't click)
http://www.illwillpress.com/tech.html

Steve


lol thats hilarious

Brum Man
12-01-2004, 04:46 PM
this is better than sex ;)Your not doing it right then!
:D

Orker
12-01-2004, 04:48 PM
I have already refreshed the fedex page 4times in the last 10min.. I know nothing would have changed but we live in hope dont we :p

On holidays now so i have to much time to worry about this parcel!.. but its great :)

iboomalot
12-01-2004, 05:52 PM
lol thats hilarious

I second that ROTFLMMFAO

STEvil
12-01-2004, 06:06 PM
Heres some more stuff to keep you guys drooling, lol :D

260mhz 1.5-2-2-0 suicide unbuffered shot at 3.30v

200mhz shot at lowest latency I could get for everest (could have knocked a bit more off I think) at 2-2-2-13 and other timings as listed in a64 tweaker.

and 250mhz lowest latency I could get (again could have knocked some more off with more tweaking I think, but trc/trfc 11/12 seems to make system a tad unstable.. to the tune I can only bench it up to 235fsb. :slobber:

So many numbers.. :eek:

cuddles
12-01-2004, 06:28 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but what's so special about 2-2-2-13 at 200 Mhz?

The 2-2-2-13 at 250 Mhz Looks nice though :)

STEvil
12-01-2004, 07:54 PM
Was trying for lowest possible latencies and highest possible unbuffered bandwidth. tras of 13 seems to be better than 0, 5, or 10..

Orker
12-01-2004, 07:54 PM
Date/Time

Status

Location

Comments

2:30 pm

Picked up by FedEx

UNION CITY CA


Dec 1, 2004 7:50 pm

Left FedEx Origin Location

UNION CITY CA

...Ahh :)

conrad.maranan
12-01-2004, 08:00 PM
Mine is already at the FedEx location in the City of Industry, which is just 10 miles from my place of residence. There's a good chance it will be delivered tomorrow morning. Too bad I won't be home to sign for the package. :(

jagare
12-01-2004, 08:01 PM
Heres some more stuff to keep you guys drooling, lol :D

260mhz 1.5-2-2-0 suicide unbuffered shot at 3.30v

200mhz shot at lowest latency I could get for everest (could have knocked a bit more off I think) at 2-2-2-13 and other timings as listed in a64 tweaker.

and 250mhz lowest latency I could get (again could have knocked some more off with more tweaking I think, but trc/trfc 11/12 seems to make system a tad unstable.. to the tune I can only bench it up to 235fsb. :slobber:

So many numbers.. :eek:

Not bad. :) I wonder how high they can get on a S939 setup with 3.5-3.6v at 2-2-2.

Orker
12-01-2004, 08:12 PM
Mine is already at the FedEx location in the City of Industry, which is just 10 miles from my place of residence. There's a good chance it will be delivered tomorrow morning. Too bad I won't be home to sign for the package. :(

Its thursday in sydney and the expected time of arrival is monday.. 3 working days.. not bad

My next problem will be customs which i will have to pay another fee :(

Worth it though imo

jinu117
12-01-2004, 08:16 PM
:lol:

It's always suprising to see geeks with girlfriends that are just drop dead gorgeous. Always amazed me at how that happened, I'm one of the lucky ones ;)

Sometimes unfortunately, for non geeks, geeks do have money. Most of woman seems to be able to smell money pretty good. Anyways, back to hearing from some of forum members on unbiased result on these set of stick. I am finding my mem controller really doesn't like much past 280mhz (283ish 2.5-3-3-7 now tops, however, max daily setup is 273mhz...) and if I can get this stuff clocking in around 270ish with good timing, that might be better for my benches. (yum 2-2-2- or even 3-2-2-...)

nutcase
12-01-2004, 09:39 PM
Not bad. :) I wonder how high they can get on a S939 setup with 3.5-3.6v at 2-2-2.

Ask and you shall Recieve.. first one was a suicide run and second one at 265 FSB is 100% stable..

MSi K8N Neo2 Plat
3500+ winchester
2x512Mb Pc3200 VX at 2-2-2-7, 1T and 3.6V
Ocz DDR Booster
Ati X800 Pro at stock setting.

Orker
12-01-2004, 09:53 PM
Ask and you shall Recieve.. first one was a suicide run and second one at 265 FSB is 100% stable..

MSi K8N Neo2 Plat
3500+ winchester
2x512Mb Pc3200 VX at 2-2-2-7, 1T and 3.6V
Ocz DDR Booster
Ati X800 Pro at stock setting.


OMG that is the best thing ive seen all day!! i have the same rig!! well in a few days i will have the missing component.. the VX

Awesome OC dude! :thumbsup:

EDIT: Ati X800 Pro at stock setting. Faaakin hell!! Man ive been very excited about this ram, but now, words cannot describe

TEDY
12-01-2004, 11:27 PM
still no benchies on NF2 ?

Nanobot
12-01-2004, 11:35 PM
When and where I can grab a pair in Canada?? What about from US?

The OCZ VX Gold are listed at:

Ramstore.ca (https://www.ramstore.ca/)

and NCIX (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=13483&vpn=OCZ4001024ELDCGEVX-K&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology)

I have found other site listing them but they are gouging on the price...

I was going to get the VX Gold but i decided to wait for the DFI socket 939 upgrade.

Steve,it's nice to know the girl in your avatar is a Canadian hottie ;)

STEvil
12-02-2004, 12:16 AM
Hey, how bout that.. the ncix price is actually half decent... amazing :D

jagare
12-02-2004, 12:47 AM
Ask and you shall Recieve.. first one was a suicide run and second one at 265 FSB is 100% stable..

MSi K8N Neo2 Plat
3500+ winchester
2x512Mb Pc3200 VX at 2-2-2-7, 1T and 3.6V
Ocz DDR Booster
Ati X800 Pro at stock setting.
Cool thanks. :) These aren't available in 2x256 right? Curious how 2 256mb sticks would perform. :)

=[PULSAR]=
12-02-2004, 01:06 AM
hag6br those bandwidth shots look a bit low does anyone else agree. Are you sure thats 1T?

conrad.maranan
12-02-2004, 01:10 AM
That's definitely 1T. There's no way 2T would allow you to break into the 7000MB/s zone. Nevertheless, it does seem low given the frequencies and 2-2-2 timings.

agenda2005
12-02-2004, 01:15 AM
=']hag6br those bandwidth shots look a bit low does anyone else agree. Are you sure thats 1T?

No. Lower multiplier on A64 reduces Sandra Bandwith percentage.
From my experience for A64 3500+ 11x Multi = usually 90-94% mem. bandwith depending on latency
10x Multi = 83-89% mem. bandwith depending on latncy
Current result is 7679/270*32 = 0.89 (89% mem bandwith)
That's pretty good man.

conrad.maranan
12-02-2004, 01:19 AM
Interesting formula. Where did you derive the value of 32 from?

enzoR
12-02-2004, 02:01 AM
32bit?

NoX
12-02-2004, 02:04 AM
Why there is nobody with an Intel rig looking for this memory? It doesn't perform well with the P4?

agenda2005
12-02-2004, 02:05 AM
Interesting formula. Where did you derive the value of 32 from?

A64 has 128bit memory interface( 64bit*2). Each 64 bit interface fetches 8bytes word per clock cycle. Total is 8*2words for 128bit memory interface. In dual chanel you have (8*2) *2 = 16*2 =32bytes words per clock cycle.
Bandwith = Memory frequency * Number of words per clock cycle.
Example
for DDR400, memory frequency = 200MHz(200,000,000/s)
Number of words for a dual channel = 32bytes
Theoretical memory bandwith = 200,000,000/s*32 bytes = 6400MB/s

cuddles
12-02-2004, 02:14 AM
Why there is nobody with an Intel rig looking for this memory? It doesn't perform well with the P4?

I believe it's designed for A64 systems. Intel platforms don't have that much luck getting where A64 systems are at all it seems.

Orker
12-02-2004, 02:18 AM
A64 has 128bit memory interface( 64bit*2). Each 64 bit interface fetches 8bytes word per clock cycle. Total is 8*2words for 128bit memory interface. In dual chanel you have (8*2) *2 = 16*2 =32bytes words per clock cycle.
Bandwith = Memory frequency * Number of words per clock cycle.
Example
for DDR400, memory frequency = 200MHz
Number of words for a dual channel = 32
Theoretical memory bandwith = 200*32 = 6400MB/s

Nice work... Glad i know how bandwidth gets that magic number now

cinders
12-02-2004, 02:32 AM
Well I've managed to secure some, it's just starting it's journey to the UK....

nutcase
12-02-2004, 06:05 AM
=']hag6br those bandwidth shots look a bit low does anyone else agree. Are you sure thats 1T?

No, That is about right for an A64. remember that you have to hit around 285-295 FSB to get the same numbers with a P4..

This is also with a fresh install of Win2k with no tweaks to system :stick:

arj
12-02-2004, 07:40 AM
I first saw that excaliberpc.com have the VX in stock more than 12 hours ago but was kinda busy the whole day. It was still in stock about half an hour ago but when I was about to place an order 5 minutes ago, the dreaded In Stock: No appeared! :mad:

Ol!ver
12-02-2004, 07:51 AM
I'm interested to see how everyone does with these when it comes to being prime stable. As we all know, with Winchester core 64s the mem controller has a big impact. You can be as memtest stable as you like, but when it comes to being prime stable, the mem controller has a fit and it all fails. I'm wondering if some RAM works better with these controllers than others, allowing a higher FSB. My ballistix for example won't do 220mhz, where it did 250 on an NF2 based system.

Anyone got any thoughts on that?

Cheers

Oli

Nube
12-02-2004, 09:38 AM
hey, sorry im a bit of a n00b here :p:

so this ram does like 2-2-2-7 @ 260 @ 3.5volts, but you need the ocz booster to get 3.5volts, so with no extra cooling and under the guarantie, so if it stops working @ 3.5v i can just some more free??

getting new upgrade christmas,
hopefully..
3500 winnie
new dfi mobo 939
and prolly this ram 1 gig VX gold
x850XT

damm, nice job ocz,, i was planning on getting the pc3700 EL plantinum but this ram blows just about anything away :)

hopefully they will be selling this ram just after christmas pretty cheap in UK :)

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 09:43 AM
it basicaly needs to run 2.5-2-2 or 3-2-2 to hit any decent speeds on intel

Someone was showing benches of it recently

trans am
12-02-2004, 09:47 AM
Ok, guys I finally got my neo2 up and ripping. it's week 40 taiwan. everything is looking good. I burned in el4200 plat. last night at 280 2.5-3-3-10 1t looping test5 all night long. seems to be my max for memcontroller on my 3200+ winnie. only 40 errors! now errors are completely gone after burning in. VX is on the truck. now it's time to play! Question to those using ddrbooster on this board. Do you set vdimm to auto in the bios and just adjust on the booster? or do you set to a specific vdimm in bios and then adjust on booster?

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 09:47 AM
got mine @ 11:50am muahahaha

results shortly:D

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 10:22 AM
I just got word that thanks to people begging for the product at Frys electronics , that frys has order the entire rest of the years production of VX.

Just so you know. ;-)

cantankerous
12-02-2004, 10:23 AM
are you serious? So no other place can get them?

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 10:26 AM
The entire first production run was shipped out , we will do 2 more runs this year , both of which frys ( which is a huge customer) has asked for in entirety

So there maybe some shortages in ourside of the US , unless we can manage a new production run this year

The production manager seems to think we wont be able to fit it in

cuddles
12-02-2004, 10:27 AM
OMG. Ryan, you aren't serious are you? I have no Frys up here! I want my VX! RAWR!!!!!!

*goes on a rampage killing all small children and women in his path*

cantankerous
12-02-2004, 10:28 AM
wow this is crazy. Damn those big bugdet stores.

I know this is hard to judge but how do you think these will run in a NF4 board? I don't know much about them and know no one who has one so was curious. I was thinking of skipping the NF3 and going straight to NF4 and am wanting to grab this ram while I still can or I may be SOL. Is the NF4 much difference when compared to NF3?

cuddles
12-02-2004, 10:28 AM
The entire first production run was shipped out , we will do 2 more runs this year , both of which frys ( which is a huge customer) has asked for in entirety

So there maybe some shortages in ourside of the US , unless we can manage a new production run this year

The production manager seems to think we wont be able to fit it in

Wow... that's seriously depressing.... don't let Frys take over the entire line.. :(

Guess I'll be hitting Ebay for BH5 instead :mad:

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 10:30 AM
Well the are some in canada now .

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 10:31 AM
The Nforce 4 boards I have seen are to early in development to tell to be honest

cantankerous
12-02-2004, 10:32 AM
hmmm I was afraid of that.... im wondering if I should take a risk and go NF4 or not.

cuddles
12-02-2004, 10:39 AM
Yeah, but I don't have cash for another 2 weeks.... oh well. BH5 comes first I guess, then the VX when it's available in 2005.

xgman
12-02-2004, 10:45 AM
Ok, guys I finally got my neo2 up and ripping. it's week 40 taiwan. everything is looking good. I burned in el4200 plat. last night at 280 2.5-3-3-10 1t looping test5 all night long. seems to be my max for memcontroller on my 3200+ winnie. only 40 errors! now errors are completely gone after burning in. VX is on the truck. now it's time to play! Question to those using ddrbooster on this board. Do you set vdimm to auto in the bios and just adjust on the booster? or do you set to a specific vdimm in bios and then adjust on booster?


Set vddr in bios to default, not auto, then boost from there. If it doesn't go high enough, then start upping the bios to where you need it 1 step at a time.

trans am
12-02-2004, 11:18 AM
Set vddr in bios to default, not auto, then boost from there. If it doesn't go high enough, then start upping the bios to where you need it 1 step at a time.

default? you mean 2.6v??

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 11:20 AM
he means auto I think

SteveOCZ
12-02-2004, 11:20 AM
That will work (2.6)

Rabbi_NZ
12-02-2004, 11:21 AM
Congrats :toast: to all OCZ employees on the success of VX!

Show's how well your marketing is when the rest of the years production is sold before anyone (or a VERY select few) has even received their modules!

Good work, you've put a massive emphasis on providing great products for the enthusiasts and it's definately paying off.

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 11:21 AM
i think the whole fry's move is not a good idea. they are going to sell these to people that dont realize that they need alot of vdimm! and there will be many returns! many RMA's. which is what set back BH-5 right?

plus the employees at FRY's dont know jack useually:(

cuddles
12-02-2004, 11:23 AM
I agree with the Frys thing. From a business standpoint, good move. From a consumer standpoint, not so great.

Still, much love for VX and OCZ <3

I'll buy it when it comes around to Canada in 2005 ;)

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 11:24 AM
I agree about frys , I told the sale manager it was a bad idea , we will see what happens

trans am
12-02-2004, 11:35 AM
selling VX to fry's would be the equivalent to giving a child a loaded gun.

cuddles
12-02-2004, 11:40 AM
selling VX to fry's would be the equivalent to giving a child a loaded gun.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Entity_Razer
12-02-2004, 11:40 AM
Hi Ryan and all OCZ crew! well first off congrats on the product!!!! I hope it brings you many runs :p

second: any idea when we'll be getting them in europe again? a LOT of shops either don't have it yet or they can order it but don't know when it comes in :s

BTW after Xmas and newyearseve I assure you I will own a GIG of that memory :D
(+DDR booster of course)
:banana:

jlccarv
12-02-2004, 11:51 AM
Only fry's! Man I hope my friends, friend, has access to a frys store, so that she can bring me over a pair, around Dec 22nd...

Otherwise its PDP XBL from Newegg all the way!...

TEDY
12-02-2004, 11:52 AM
this is joke, right ?

mrlobber
12-02-2004, 11:57 AM
The entire first production run was shipped out , we will do 2 more runs this year , both of which frys ( which is a huge customer) has asked for in entirety

So there maybe some shortages in ourside of the US , unless we can manage a new production run this year

The production manager seems to think we wont be able to fit it in


:brick: :brick: :brick: Europe is left on its own again. Unless some crazy (and philantropic) guys get some half dozen of sets, keep the highest clocking one and sell the others...

I guess, time to start looking for some high clocking second-hand BH-5 again. Just to be sure.

Still you, OCZ guys, manage to do everything you start on the highest level! :toast:

cuddles
12-02-2004, 12:00 PM
See anyone laughing?

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 12:05 PM
well since i am such a dedicated and careing person , i would be happy to get someone these sticks from fry's if they arent able to!

cuddles
12-02-2004, 12:07 PM
I'd take you up on that if I had more than $30. You take monthly payments? :p:

arj
12-02-2004, 12:10 PM
Any chance of excaliberpc.com getting more stock? The "Instock: Yes" was staring at me for over 12 hours and I didn't order! Arrrgggghhhh....

TEDY
12-02-2004, 12:23 PM
this time you really screwed us OCZ...no offense tho....

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 12:23 PM
here you go as promised they do 260 @ 2-2-2-x :toast: stable. imma go higher just need some time.

mrlobber
12-02-2004, 12:24 PM
How much would they be at Fry's? (don't tell me to go and check personally since I'm on the other side of the Atlantic ;) )

Acidbaby, how much headroom left on Vdimm?

TEDY
12-02-2004, 12:27 PM
here you go as promised they do 260 @ 2-2-2-x :toast: stable. imma go higher just need some time.


260 * 9.5 = 247 :stick:

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 12:31 PM
260 * 9.5 = 247 :stick:
?????......

Torin
12-02-2004, 12:33 PM
You are using a 9.5 multiplier, meaning you ram isnt really running at 260, rather 247.

trans am
12-02-2004, 12:39 PM
Yeah, never use .5 multi. just find the ram's max, then max your htt past 300+ and use divider if you can't run cpu at 2.6ghz.

cantankerous
12-02-2004, 12:40 PM
Has anyone gotten any bad sticks that won't do more than 260+?

Torin
12-02-2004, 12:41 PM
260 @ 2-2-2 1T is hardly what I would consider "bad"

cantankerous
12-02-2004, 12:43 PM
I said, has anyone gotten bad sticks that *WON'T* do 260+ higher. I said this because the BH sticks can do 250 without a hitch. I was looking to see if these sticks could do more than that meaning 260+ is my aim and goal. I was wondering if anyone obtained any sticks that could NOT do 260+ but infact lower. Who said 260 was bad?

Torin
12-02-2004, 12:48 PM
Ah, I misinterpreted you. I assume you meant that a stick that "won't do more than 260+" is "bad".

My bad.

cantankerous
12-02-2004, 01:03 PM
yes exactly. =)

It's ok probably did a quick read. Sorry for my being 'cantankerous'.

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 01:04 PM
rofl sorry guys :D BRB with another shot.

jinu117
12-02-2004, 01:20 PM
Yeah, but I don't have cash for another 2 weeks.... oh well. BH5 comes first I guess, then the VX when it's available in 2005.

don't despair, there will be people to willing to do dirty work for you of going to fry's and get it for you as well as some used sticks down the line as usual. :) Actually this makes getting good memory easier now :P

Entity_Razer
12-02-2004, 01:25 PM
true but not everyone has acces to the trade forum!

(just a bit more :p: )

cuddles
12-02-2004, 01:33 PM
Trade forum? /me looks

xgman
12-02-2004, 01:49 PM
default? you mean 2.6v??
I mean 2.5 2.6 whatever as long as it is on the low side. With auto, you are never quite 100% sure of where you are starting from.

xgman
12-02-2004, 01:54 PM
don't despair, there will be people to willing to do dirty work for you of going to fry's and get it for you as well as some used sticks down the line as usual. :) Actually this makes getting good memory easier now :P


yes, but Fry's is famous for people continuously taking back less than stellar overclocking hardware and then reselling it again.

Playful_Buffalo
12-02-2004, 02:05 PM
i was gone for a day and this thread grew like 5-7 pages...:D

TEDY
12-02-2004, 02:11 PM
now i never gonna get VX....really nice.

cuddles
12-02-2004, 02:12 PM
Why would you get it?

Even if it's only at Frys, he said that's only until the end of the year. Not that far away really. I do agree that it's lame, but it isn't any reason to not buy the VX when it is available, the stuff is golden.

conrad.maranan
12-02-2004, 02:14 PM
I'm pretty sure he meant that he won't be able to acquire these modules from online retailers because Fry's just purchased OCZ's entire stock.

Playful_Buffalo
12-02-2004, 02:18 PM
the end of the year is in a month...

cuddles
12-02-2004, 02:24 PM
I'm pretty sure he meant that he won't be able to acquire these modules from online retailers because Fry's just purchased OCZ's entire stock.

You know, I bet he did. :brick:

SteveOCZ
12-02-2004, 02:35 PM
Guys don't fret. We've been making this ram for only a week so it will take time to fill the market. Just think...the time you wait may also see the prices drop which is good for everyone :)

cantankerous
12-02-2004, 02:38 PM
price drops is good.. how about improved yields with better performance? A possibility or will the next 3-4 batches all perform the same?

TEDY
12-02-2004, 02:40 PM
yep online...got friend in south carolina-usa who purchases me stuff online...doubt he has any fry's store in 15-20 miles radius around :(

steve why your location is tallin ?

gimme her email please :D

SteveOCZ
12-02-2004, 03:48 PM
Yeilds may get better, but I have no data on that kinda stuff. My location is Tallinn because that is where I live :)

Joe Camel
12-02-2004, 04:20 PM
not playing well with my AV8 and winnie...

265x9 fail P95
260x9 fail P95
255x9 fail P95
250x9 fail P95

1:1
222,10,12,16 @ 3.4V
booster in 1 or 2, mem in 3&4 (still need to test B=4 M=1&2)
would love to try higher V but mobo (MBM too) wont read >3.5...(ill be trying 3.6 on booster soon)

but remember this is a mobo that wont get BH-5 over 225 @ any V or timings

PS this wont be a very productive night but ill see what i can do...just wanted to put out the "first trys..."

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 04:23 PM
Joe , Do you have another board ?

well I guess if you could only get 225 with BH-5 its not bad

Also please try 2.5-2-2 @ 3-2-2

Orker
12-02-2004, 04:37 PM
Wow alot has happened while ive been asleep... Good to see more benchies coming through..

Acidbaby, waiting on your new overclock without .5 multi

As for me VX, its cleared customs at LAX and should be departing shortly.. ETA Monday ... Sunday(US)

Ol!ver
12-02-2004, 04:53 PM
not playing well with my AV8 and winnie...

265x9 fail P95
260x9 fail P95
255x9 fail P95
250x9 fail P95

1:1
222,10,12,16 @ 3.4V
booster in 1 or 2, mem in 3&4 (still need to test B=4 M=1&2)
would love to try higher V but mobo (MBM too) wont read >3.5...(ill be trying 3.6 on booster soon)

but remember this is a mobo that wont get BH-5 over 225 @ any V or timings

PS this wont be a very productive night but ill see what i can do...just wanted to put out the "first trys..."


Drop the multi another notch and try again mate. I suspect it's the mem controller needing voltage. Dropping the overall clock should have the same affect. I can't prime at 230x10 with ram at 230, but can if I drop the multi. I think everything with these winchesters comes down to this controller. If you're on water and can stick silly volts through the chip, cant see why you shouldnt be able to do well.

I bet it passes memtest doesnt it?

HTH

Oli

Orker
12-02-2004, 04:58 PM
Can someone clarify trans am's question about bios vdimm setting when using booster...

ie. default 2.6v or auto?

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 05:07 PM
either one will work

Orker
12-02-2004, 05:11 PM
either one will work

cool thanks.. I have always set the vdimm to the highest supported by the mobo then increased the booster... so wasnt it working correctly then?

wow i may be able to oc this further then

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 05:21 PM
Noticed that Acid baby is using 2 sticks of 512 at once in that DFI board ..

trans am
12-02-2004, 05:30 PM
I am having mixed results with the VX so far. I can't boot into windows at anything over 240x10 2-2-2-7 1T. tried volts from 2.9-3.5 my cpu is very capable of 2.6 and I can run my el4200 plat dual channel at 2.5-3-3-7 1t 280*9 3vdimm. However, I can use clockgen and agp/pci is locked. I can increase up to 260*10 and my best superpi was 32s 1m run. But when I tried to take screenie, I opened paint and system froze. Now I need ocz help. what is the best options right now? i've tried tras of 6, 7, and 10. Does tras 10 stress more than 6? I thought it did. see my sig for my testbed. Even trans am gets stuck sometimes. lol

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 05:33 PM
I would try 2-2-2-10 , then 2.5-2-2-10 some people had luck lowering the Cas to 2.5 or 3

also I would work them up slowly , Thats the same thing I have seen twice now , went up to 240 to begin with and then after a while they could go up further.


I would stick with 3.3 volts for the time being and play around there

trans am
12-02-2004, 05:42 PM
sounds good. Oh, I forgot to mention I was memtesting memtest86 ver.3.3 test 5 and had ram set to 250 and 260 2-2-2 3.3v and passed 1st loop, immediatley after beginning loop 2 the program freezes and had to hold reset button. This is odd since I would expect to see errors instead of just freeze during tests. ANyway, I'll try setting to cas 2.5 and trying agin.

eva2000
12-02-2004, 05:44 PM
I would try 2-2-2-10 , then 2.5-2-2-10 some people had luck lowering the Cas to 2.5 or 3

also I would work them up slowly , Thats the same thing I have seen twice now , went up to 240 to begin with and then after a while they could go up further.


I would stick with 3.3 volts for the time being and play around there
burn in for Gold VX helps http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=618554#post618554

i'm doing my burn in on P4 first hehe

Orker
12-02-2004, 06:34 PM
I would try 2-2-2-10 , then 2.5-2-2-10 some people had luck lowering the Cas to 2.5 or 3

also I would work them up slowly , Thats the same thing I have seen twice now , went up to 240 to begin with and then after a while they could go up further.


I would stick with 3.3 volts for the time being and play around there

Yeh burning in the ram makes a real difference

Do you reccommend burning the ram in @ stock or at a reasonably high oc'ed level like 250mhz 2-2-2-10 for VX?

Rabbi_NZ
12-02-2004, 06:37 PM
Yeh burning in the ram makes a real difference

Do you reccommend burning the ram in @ stock or at a reasonably high oc'ed level like 250mhz 2-2-2-10 for VX?
Follow his link ;)

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 06:43 PM
Yeh burning in the ram makes a real difference

Do you reccommend burning the ram in @ stock or at a reasonably high oc'ed level like 250mhz 2-2-2-10 for VX?


i just burned inb for 4.5hrs and having the same results as trans_am :confused:

no matter what i do i cant even get 250 mhz!

cuddles
12-02-2004, 06:47 PM
Uh oh :(

Slightly depressing... maybe something else is causing the issue. Did you try 2.5-2-2-10?

andyOCZ
12-02-2004, 06:49 PM
Can someone clarify trans am's question about bios vdimm setting when using booster...

ie. default 2.6v or auto?

When using the booster we usually just set the DDR Voltage to default and tweak from there. I does not affect performance if for some reason you would like to set the DDRv to 2.8 or whatever.

Does this help?

andyOCZ
12-02-2004, 06:51 PM
i just burned inb for 4.5hrs and having the same results as trans_am :confused:

no matter what i do i cant even get 250 mhz!

What voltage are you running?

Orker
12-02-2004, 06:52 PM
i just burned inb for 4.5hrs and having the same results as trans_am :confused:

no matter what i do i cant even get 250 mhz!

yes depressing that is... SC or DC?

Orker
12-02-2004, 06:53 PM
When using the booster we usually just set the DDR Voltage to default and tweak from there. I does not affect performance if for some reason you would like to set the DDRv to 2.8 or whatever.

Does this help?

yeh thanks, thats exactly what i wanted to know :)

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 06:53 PM
i tried all the way up to 3.5vidimm, then maxxed out @ 3.57vdimm

and if you look at the pic it is test 5!

Orker
12-02-2004, 06:54 PM
trans am, are you testing this on your MSI or DFI board??... acidbaby is using DFI.. maybe it doesnt like DFI boards

Ive seen a couple of ppl with msi k8n neo2 plat and 260 2-2-2-10 3.5v

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 06:57 PM
he has the MSI board 939

Orker
12-02-2004, 07:00 PM
he has the MSI board 939

yeh thats what im thinking but he also has the DFI NF3

andyOCZ
12-02-2004, 07:01 PM
i tried all the way up to 3.5vidimm, then maxxed out @ 3.57vdimm

and if you look at the pic it is test 5!

If you look at my post I edited that part out about test 5. I was confused cause TA said test 2 locked.

Try burning the RAM in at lower volts. Then see what you get.

andyOCZ
12-02-2004, 07:04 PM
The biggest factor is the CPU when it comes to memory (well, volts too :)). Some A64's are dogs. My Winnie 3500+ 939 won't do 250fsb at 3-4-3-10 with my good TCCD with any voltage. What a waste of money! My VX is on the way I hope.

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 07:17 PM
well my BH-5 did some amazing OC's with this board so i would expect for this to not be the problem.

here it is at 3-3-3-8 @ 270mhz :(

eva2000
12-02-2004, 07:17 PM
well my BH-5 did some amazing OC's with this board so i would expect for this to not be the problem.

here it is at 3-3-3-8 @ 270mhz :(
using drive strength level 1 or 2 and chipset 1.8v ? try it

cuddles
12-02-2004, 07:21 PM
Ouch, something else must be wrong. Even my crap ram can go past 280 at 3-3-3, that doesn't make sense.

trans am
12-02-2004, 07:21 PM
OK, i'm using the msi neo2 and I was looping test5 like 40 times at 240 2-2-2-10 and mo errors. I raised it to 245 and completes 1 test and freezes memtest again wtf? So what is the best way to burn in this memory? I mean no matter what, everytime I increase the htt, memtest just freeazes after 1st pass instead of just getting errors. THis is really frusterating. my plan is to loop memtest all night at 240 2-2-2-10 3.3v and see if it helps anything. any other suggestions will be appreciated. I also tried cas 2.5 and 3 but didn't help achieve anything higher.

(quote)
If you look at my post I edited that part out about test 5. I was confused cause TA said test 2 locked.

Try burning the RAM in at lower volts. Then see what you get.


no, test 2 didn't lock, it was pass2 of test 5 that locked.

Orker
12-02-2004, 07:24 PM
OK, i'm using the msi neo2 and I was looping test5 like 40 times at 240 2-2-2-10 and mo errors. I raised it to 245 and completes 1 test and freezes memtest again wtf? So what is the best way to burn in this memory? I mean no matter what, everytime I increase the htt, memtest just freeazes after 1st pass instead of just getting errors. THis is really frusterating. my plan is to loop memtest all night at 240 2-2-2-10 3.3v and see if it helps anything. any other suggestions will be appreciated. I also tried cas 2.5 and 3 but didn't help achieve anything higher.

(quote)
If you look at my post I edited that part out about test 5. I was confused cause TA said test 2 locked.

Try burning the RAM in at lower volts. Then see what you get.


no, test 2 didn't lock, it was pass2 of test 5 that locked.

THis is terrible news :(

How does OCZ recommend burning in this ram? thx

starblazer
12-02-2004, 07:25 PM
trans am, are you testing this on your MSI or DFI board??... acidbaby is using DFI.. maybe it doesnt like DFI boards

Ive seen a couple of ppl with msi k8n neo2 plat and 260 2-2-2-10 3.5v


My DFI NF3 board with my Newcastle 3200+ CG stepping did 250 mhz. LDT 3x. 250x10 right out of the box. 2-2-2-10. All I set was CPC enabled, 2-2-2-10. I didn't even change any other settings and it doing ok so far. Did some preliminary loops of test 5 and 8 in memtest. Ran S&M memory test fine. Did some sandra. No screenies yet. Will let it test overnight. But, everything is good so far. I am happy.

Running at 3.5v with my ocz powerstream btw.

eva2000
12-02-2004, 07:25 PM
using memtest86+ v1.40 http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=6 ? v1.40 changed some of the test patterns and added some new stuff but test #5 is still the intensive one

Orker
12-02-2004, 07:27 PM
My DFI NF3 board with my Newcastle 3200+ CG stepping did 250 mhz. LDT 3x. 250x10 right out of the box. 2-2-2-10. All I set was CPC enabled, 2-2-2-10. I didn't even change any other settings and it doing ok so far. Did some preliminary loops of test 5 and 8 in memtest. Ran S&M memory test fine. Did some sandra. No screenies yet. Will let it test overnight. But, everything is good so far. I am happy.

Running at 3.5v with my ocz powerstream btw.

Awesome news dude


I wonder how conrad.maranan is going??? he has an MSI K8N Neo2 Plat

He must still be formatting, installing windows etc

Rabbi_NZ
12-02-2004, 07:30 PM
The guys having troubles on DFI... are you using CH or NC CPUs?

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 07:32 PM
using drive strength level 1 or 2 and chipset 1.8v ? try it
tried lowering drive strength no bueno :rolleyes:

i have a newcastle CG 3000+ does 2.5 no prob on stock heatsink.

conrad.maranan
12-02-2004, 07:35 PM
Okay. I'll save the screenshots for the The Official OCZ VX Thread (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47058) - and I'm not posting anything until I hit the magic number of 270MHz.

I installed the modules at around 5:30pm, immediately after I formatted my drive and re-installed WinXP. Here's a breakdown of what I've accomplished since then:


Memtest (Test #5) | 20 Loops | 200MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 2.85VDIMM
Boot into Windows and Run Super Pi 2M
Memtest (Test #5) | 20 Loops | 210MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 3.00VDIMM
Boot into Windows and Run Super Pi 2M
Memtest (Test #5) | 20 Loops | 225MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 3.10VDIMM
Boot into Windows and Run Super Pi 2M
Memtest (Test #5) | 20 Loops | 235MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 3.20VDIMM
Boot into Windows and Run Super Pi 2M
Memtest (Test #5) | 20 Loops | 245MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 3.30VDIMM
Boot into Windows and Run Super Pi 2M

Current status:
Memtest (All Tests) | Now Looping | 250MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 3.40VDIMM


I don't think I have to keep upping the voltage. I'm just trying to conduct my own "burn-in" experiment, so I'm just doing whatever I feel is going to work. I've got a 12-pack of Heineken + a pack of Marlboro Ultra Lights in front of me and the day off tomorrow. I'm just going to sit here and loop Memtest at 250MHz for another hour or two, and then gradually bump it up. When I say gradually, I mean 1MHz at a time and then repeating the whole Memtest shindig again.

I have a good/strange/happy feeling that I have a lucky set. :D I'll be taking baby steps tonight and tomorrow.

Wish me luck! I wish you all the same.
:toast:

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 07:38 PM
good luck bro hope you get some better results than I :toast:

cuddles
12-02-2004, 07:47 PM
Good luck man, it's looking extremely nice so far, here's hoping you hit 270! :toast:

Joe Camel
12-02-2004, 07:49 PM
Joe , Do you have another board ?

well I guess if you could only get 225 with BH-5 its not bad

Also please try 2.5-2-2 @ 3-2-2

sorry aint going to happen tonight but im "free" tomorrow night so it will...

only other (running) comp in the house is a NF7-s with an 1800 (the oc champ b4 the 2600M's) but the VTT dont track for high Vdimm...

odd theing is, ive gottn TCCD to 285x9 dual, 1:1, 3,4,4,11,12,16 @3.2V to P95 for 15min this only lasted 3...ill be trying "looser" timings.

@ ryanpgroovy/OCZ guys: shoot me a PM with settings you want me to try out tomorrow night

LOL if this dont work out, ill be trying the 4400 EL Gold L.E. 2.5,4,4,8's that are "sitting on the bench" for now...ill find the best ram for this silly AV8 if it kills me (and my bank account)

GOOD LUCK to all VXers!!

PS @ ol!ver, dont have an "a:" (no memtest) is there another way? ya, im on water, can push 1.7V without going too high on temps.

STEvil
12-02-2004, 07:57 PM
Try different slots too.

My BH-6 and CH-5 like 1+2 on my LP-UT.

VX liked 1+3 better.

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 08:11 PM
Acidbaby , dont give up yet , I posted some tips for you in the other thread 247 2-2-2 is a great starting point , I mean seriously nothing else in production now will do that .


Also , your running 2x512 on that board which makes the 247 especialy amazing , my benches on the dfi were all using 1 512.


instead of jumping to 270, try 2.5-2-2 @ 250 then go up also make sure you have a fan on the ram , also try setting the voltage just to 3.3

These things often need to be tweaked for while to get up to speed

Maybe even setting 250 2-2-2 for a while and running prime will help even though you knwo your getting one error in memtest per loop

conrad.maranan
12-02-2004, 08:19 PM
My advice: grab some ice cold beer and just let Memtest or Sandra Memory Burn-In do the work for you. Patience is a virtue. I'm hoping it will pay off for me in the end. :cool:

ryanpgroovy
12-02-2004, 08:21 PM
another note , is looser timings outside of CAs dont seem to help with this ram

so I basicaly can boot stable with mine at the same speed 3-3-3 as 3-2-2

Orker
12-02-2004, 08:39 PM
Okay. I'll save the screenshots for the The Official OCZ VX Thread (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47058) - and I'm not posting anything until I hit the magic number of 270MHz.

I installed the modules at around 5:30pm, immediately after I formatted my drive and re-installed WinXP. Here's a breakdown of what I've accomplished since then:


Memtest (Test #5) | 20 Loops | 200MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 2.85VDIMM
Boot into Windows and Run Super Pi 2M
Memtest (Test #5) | 20 Loops | 210MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 3.00VDIMM
Boot into Windows and Run Super Pi 2M
Memtest (Test #5) | 20 Loops | 225MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 3.10VDIMM
Boot into Windows and Run Super Pi 2M
Memtest (Test #5) | 20 Loops | 235MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 3.20VDIMM
Boot into Windows and Run Super Pi 2M
Memtest (Test #5) | 20 Loops | 245MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 3.30VDIMM
Boot into Windows and Run Super Pi 2M

Current status:
Memtest (All Tests) | Now Looping | 250MHz @ 2-2-2-10 | 3.40VDIMM


I don't think I have to keep upping the voltage. I'm just trying to conduct my own "burn-in" experiment, so I'm just doing whatever I feel is going to work. I've got a 12-pack of Heineken + a pack of Marlboro Ultra Lights in front of me and the day off tomorrow. I'm just going to sit here and loop Memtest at 250MHz for another hour or two, and then gradually bump it up. When I say gradually, I mean 1MHz at a time and then repeating the whole Memtest shindig again.

I have a good/strange/happy feeling that I have a lucky set. :D I'll be taking baby steps tonight and tomorrow.

Wish me luck! I wish you all the same.
:toast:

LOL 12pk and malboros

Great news conrad!

andyOCZ
12-02-2004, 08:42 PM
No one seems to be saying if they are using 2 sticks of ram or 1. With 2 sticks in any 754 board you can expect at least a 10-15mhz drop in max OC.

Let us know how many sticks and what board you have as well as voltage. We also need to know what PSU you have and vid card. If you just threw a 6800 in there with the new RAM and have a cheese wiz PSU your overclocks will suck. ;)

Thanks guys.

Orker
12-02-2004, 08:44 PM
No one seems to be saying if they are using 2 sticks of ram or 1. With 2 sticks in any 754 board you can expect at least a 10-15mhz drop in max OC.

Let us know how many sticks and what board you have as well as voltage. We also need to know what PSU you have and vid card. If you just threw a 6800 in there with the new RAM and have a cheese wiz PSU your overclocks will suck. ;)

Thanks guys.

I got an OCZ Powerstream 600w the other day in readiness for the VX :)

andyOCZ
12-02-2004, 08:45 PM
:banana4: :banana4: :banana4: Conrad, you may not live with all that brew and lung polution. LOL :banana4: :banana4: :banana4:

andyOCZ
12-02-2004, 08:46 PM
I got an OCZ Powerstream 600w the other day in readiness for the VX :)

Awesome choice!

Orker
12-02-2004, 08:54 PM
Awesome choice!

yeh its huge!

Loving the aluminium/chrome look with green leds :)

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 08:56 PM
Awesome choice!


system is as follows::
1gb dual kit ocz VX (ofcourse)
a64 3000+ nc/CG stable at 2.5 ghz (waiting on water to go higher)
ATI 9800pro_XT flashed and OCed
DFI lanparty UT nForce3 250gb
OCZ powerstream 420w
plenty of cooling. and my ram is being cooled by my old AMD fan ;)

so i have a good platform for this stuff just need some time i guess!

another note , is looser timings outside of CAs dont seem to help with this ram


i noticed the same thing.

update i am running stable @250 mhz now burning in @ 3.4vdimm

::EDIT::
below i attached a pic of the program i am useing to burn my memory:D enjoy

conrad.maranan
12-02-2004, 09:01 PM
No one seems to be saying if they are using 2 sticks of ram or 1. With 2 sticks in any 754 board you can expect at least a 10-15mhz drop in max OC.

Let us know how many sticks and what board you have as well as voltage. We also need to know what PSU you have and vid card. If you just threw a 6800 in there with the new RAM and have a cheese wiz PSU your overclocks will suck. ;)

Thanks guys.
I'm running in dual channel. I'll test single channel in a few days, or after I think I've reached a plateau with two sticks. I'm using a $50.00 Thermaltake W0013 Silent Purepower 480W. My PSU maintains a steady overvolt to all of the rails.

With regard to dual channel with a 754 rig, I notcied a 20MHz to 23MHz drop in frequencies during my testing (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46354).

Conrad, you may not live with all that brew and lung polution. LOL
I'm 29 years young. I'm pretty sure I have a few more years to enjoy these vices of youth and splendor. ;)

Orker
12-02-2004, 09:59 PM
update i am running stable @250 mhz now burning in @ 3.4vdimm

::EDIT::
below i attached a pic of the program i am useing to burn my memory:D enjoy


Good to hear your @ 250 now :) i take it thats 2-2-2-10 3.4v??

btw nice program.. ill use that to burn in my ram aswell

aCidbAbY
12-02-2004, 10:03 PM
Good to hear your @ 250 now :) i take it thats 2-2-2-10 3.4v??

yes sir
my fingers are crossed :cool:

Orker
12-02-2004, 10:08 PM
yes sir
my fingers are crossed :cool:

oh baby! thats good news!

i wonder how trans am is going.. he has the same mobo as me

so far, acidbaby and conrad have reached 250 2-2-2-10 on DFI NF3 and MSI K8N Neo2 plat, respectively :)

starblazer
12-02-2004, 10:16 PM
Got to 255x10 so far. But, does that bandwidth look right? Kinda low for sandra score isn't it?


This is on DFI UT NF3 250GB (slot 1,3) All on auto except 10x multiplier, enabled CPC, 2-2-2-10. memtest was done with 9x multiplier to get cpu oc out of the equation.

Orker
12-02-2004, 10:24 PM
Got to 255x10 so far. But, does that bandwidth look right? Kinda low for sandra score isn't it?


This is on DFI UT NF3 250GB (slot 1,3) All on auto except 10x multiplier, enabled CPC, 2-2-2-10.

Very nice but your right with the sandra score...very low.. i would have though 5000-6000

starblazer
12-02-2004, 10:26 PM
Very nice but your right with the sandra score...very low.. i would have though 5000-6000

Oh mine is a 754 single channel, but I was hoping it would break at least 4k though. :( What am I missing? Or is this bandwidth right for DDR510?

Also, my SuperPI 1M was 35 seconds... sad.. what am I doing wrong...?

Orker
12-02-2004, 10:34 PM
Oh mine is a 754 single channel, but I was hoping it would break at least 4k though. :( What am I missing? Or is this bandwidth right for DDR510?

Also, my SuperPI 1M was 35 seconds... sad.. what am I doing wrong...?

Not sure about bandwidth then but your superpi is fine

I get 34sec @ 2600mhz

Jupiler
12-02-2004, 10:39 PM
Got to 255x10 so far. But, does that bandwidth look right? Kinda low for sandra score isn't it?


This is on DFI UT NF3 250GB (slot 1,3) All on auto except 10x multiplier, enabled CPC, 2-2-2-10. memtest was done with 9x multiplier to get cpu oc out of the equation.

Score should be around 4k, maybe a little higher.
I scored around 3800 with 2*512 MB BH5 Corsair sticks (245*10) on my DFI board.

andyOCZ
12-02-2004, 10:51 PM
Well good work guys. Those of you hitting close to or better than 250mhz dual channel with 2-2-2 timings are rockin'! Pull one stick out and see what you get. Most of the great benches you guys saw were single channel. I'm pretty amazed and can't wait cause Ryanpgroovy just sent me some VX so I can help you guys out with some suggestions after my testing (right, hehe :banana: ).

STEvil
12-02-2004, 10:57 PM
Bandwidth looks fine to me, I get around 3830 ish at 9x250.

Orker
12-02-2004, 10:58 PM
Just thought id say to those that missed out on VX, its back IN STOCK at excalibrepc

http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=4343

Ol!ver
12-03-2004, 02:35 AM
PS @ ol!ver, dont have an "a:" (no memtest) is there another way? ya, im on water, can push 1.7V without going too high on temps.


Hi

Yeah you can get a bootable CD iso off their we page HERE (http://www.memtest.org/#downiso)

HTH

Oli

trans am
12-03-2004, 06:52 AM
I just downloaded memtest 1.40 (i'm at work now and it's a new day) I ran the ram all night long while I slept soundly. The ram ran all the tests looped so I would stress all aspects of the modules. 3.3v at 240mhz. It's very odd that the ram can't boot into windows even at 245mhz, but I was able to pass a whole 1m run is superpi with clockgen at 260mhz 2-2-2-10 1t. I'll have plenty of time later on to mess with it. My Lady was really giving me trouble last night. This seems to happen everytime I get some new hardware, she will interrupt me when I am trying to reset the cmos or right when I'm really frusterated. It's almost like women know. I feel like they can smell the new hardware. Almost like animals can smell fear, the lady can smell the ram. She smells the ic's and then they come in when you are at your most vulnerable state and attack you for not spending enough quality time with them. So I told her we will work out a schedule for me. Certain days will be my overclocking / games and XS, and other nights I will spend with her. That way everyone's happy. What do you guys think?

cinders
12-03-2004, 06:55 AM
You should give her a good beating, thats what I did! Now my missus never speaks out of term.... :D

cantankerous
12-03-2004, 06:58 AM
I think you sound just like me lol. Funny actually but also reassuring it's not just myself. Whenver I am the most frustrated is when I get bugged to things too. Drives me nuts. Days where I'm bored and with nothing to do is when I'm left alone.

A schedule will be good though. Need to keep peace in the house especially if the wife/gf wears the pants in the house.

cinders
12-03-2004, 07:06 AM
A schedule will be good though. Need to keep peace in the house especially if the wife/gf wears the pants in the house.

Don't ever let them wear the pants!... Jeez Man! If you do, it'll be game over... You got to keep these women in shape, they're dangerous creatures!...

I've seen the state of my grandfather!... the glint in his eye has gone and so has his soul, the poor man... - Thats what 40-odd years of living with a woman who wears the pants has done...

I made a vow that day - it'd never happen to me...

trans am
12-03-2004, 07:08 AM
A schedule will be good though. Need to keep peace in the house especially if the wife/gf wears the pants in the house.

We'll actually neither of us wear pants, we just prance around the apt. naked.

Jupiler
12-03-2004, 07:11 AM
So I presume your overclocking/games, XS day starts at 6 AM and ends at 5:59 AM the next morning?

"Got a minute, honey?" :D

sono
12-03-2004, 07:12 AM
I just downloaded memtest 1.40 (i'm at work now and it's a new day) I ran the ram all night long while I slept soundly. The ram ran all the tests looped so I would stress all aspects of the modules. 3.3v at 240mhz. It's very odd that the ram can't boot into windows even at 245mhz, but I was able to pass a whole 1m run is superpi with clockgen at 260mhz 2-2-2-10 1t. I'll have plenty of time later on to mess with it. My Lady was really giving me trouble last night. This seems to happen everytime I get some new hardware, she will interrupt me when I am trying to reset the cmos or right when I'm really frusterated. It's almost like women know. I feel like they can smell the new hardware. Almost like animals can smell fear, the lady can smell the ram. She smells the ic's and then they come in when you are at your most vulnerable state and attack you for not spending enough quality time with them. So I told her we will work out a schedule for me. Certain days will be my overclocking / games and XS, and other nights I will spend with her. That way everyone's happy. What do you guys think?

LOL,
I think all the oc geeks suffer from the same (me included).

Good luck with the new rams and I’m sure your wife will understand… or not :p:

sr4470
12-03-2004, 07:14 AM
hahaha...do they sell this RAM in the UK? Methinks i'll grab some for my upcoming A64 rig

cinders
12-03-2004, 07:23 AM
hahaha...do they sell this RAM in the UK? Methinks i'll grab some for my upcoming A64 rig

I live in the UK and I ordered mine online from eXacliber... Should turn up Monday/Tuesday...

sr4470
12-03-2004, 07:28 AM
Oh...but i thought the warranty only covers up to 2.9V +-5% ? Or am I missing something here?

xgman
12-03-2004, 07:29 AM
You NEO2 guys. Make sure you adjust the LT to 3X after 260's HTT to give it a fighting chance, and obviosly set agp to 67 to lock pci. Also chipsets with early dates are not reaching the same heights as the most recent ones.

sr4470
12-03-2004, 07:32 AM
Thats part of the reason i didnt rush out to buy a system as soon i read about athlon 64 being good a few months ago...

Torin
12-03-2004, 07:35 AM
Ha. Right when they come to you bugging you that you're not spending enough time with them and you get aggrevated and give them a look, they always say: "Is something wrong?". And yes, they always come in right as you're getting frustrated, and always misinterpret your frustration as something -they- did and not something the computer did. And of course, arguments ensue...

Women...

sr4470
12-03-2004, 07:38 AM
:rolleyes: hmmm

cinders
12-03-2004, 07:41 AM
You NEO2 guys. Make sure you adjust the LT to 3X after 260's HTT to give it a fighting chance, and obviosly set agp to 67 to lock pci. Also chipsets with early dates are not reaching the same heights as the most recent ones.

Got all that, not sure whether to check my chipset though... I've already had it off and covered it in AS5 - should have checked then really!...

Plus I'm not going to RMA my board because it's got an older chip on it... It's too much hassle!

I've also read conflicting reports on this site about older revisions and newer revisions and also chips from Korea and Taiwan all doing high HTT's.

I think it's luck of the draw...

trans am
12-03-2004, 08:01 AM
You NEO2 guys. Make sure you adjust the LT to 3X after 260's HTT to give it a fighting chance, and obviosly set agp to 67 to lock pci. Also chipsets with early dates are not reaching the same heights as the most recent ones.

I have nf3 0440 taiwan. ldt is 3x and agp/pci is locking when I look in clockgen when set to 66. I have bios 1.41 and official 1.40

TEDY
12-03-2004, 08:11 AM
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cantankerous
12-03-2004, 08:41 AM
Ok guys,

just finished yapping with a Canadian reseller of this stuff and was told that only 4 1GB kits were sent to Canada total?! This one place got 2 of those 4 and that was it until well into the new year. I managed to snatch up the last kit on a preorder which should be arriving today or monday latest. I have an NFII board only so I guess I will be guinea pig on this. I will let you know what I come up with.

Joe Camel
12-03-2004, 08:53 AM
My Lady was really giving me trouble last night. This seems to happen everytime I get some new hardware, she will interrupt me when I am trying to reset the cmos or right when I'm really frusterated. It's almost like women know. I feel like they can smell the new hardware. Almost like animals can smell fear, the lady can smell the ram. She smells the ic's and then they come in when you are at your most vulnerable state and attack you for not spending enough quality time with them. So I told her we will work out a schedule for me. Certain days will be my overclocking / games and XS, and other nights I will spend with her. That way everyone's happy. What do you guys think?


my god dude, we must be twins (or our ladies are) that is *DEAD ON* what happens in my house...and why i said I will be testing more today and not lastnight (she's working till 930pm tonight)

got me an old A: from work and memtest on a floppy so ill be ready after work to "go to town" on that ram...

andyOCZ
12-03-2004, 09:30 AM
Oh...but i thought the warranty only covers up to 2.9V +-5% ? Or am I missing something here?

If you mean the AMD or MB warranty then you are probably right. I think most that buy this memory give little regard to warranties. :)

The memory is warranteed to 3.5v.

ryanpgroovy
12-03-2004, 09:32 AM
looking better each day , keep on tweaking guys :-)

trans am
12-03-2004, 09:45 AM
So my question still stands.....What is the most effective way to burn in this memory?

ryanpgroovy
12-03-2004, 09:53 AM
Thats a hard question to answer , Eva sent a link on some methods a few pages back

I just find where its erroring in memtest a few errors per pass then loop some windows benches ( pi , prime ) for a while , then start slowing going up in speed , even though I know I might be getting a few errors . then go back and re memtest later

I would start at 3.3 volts and go from there

ryanpgroovy
12-03-2004, 09:56 AM
I am sure more went to canada that that , you should try some other retailers if you cant manage to find it

aCidbAbY
12-03-2004, 10:43 AM
This seems to happen everytime I get some new hardware, she will interrupt me when I am trying to reset the cmos or right when I'm really frusterated. It's almost like women know. I feel like they can smell the new hardware. Almost like animals can smell fear, the lady can smell the ram. She smells the ic's and then they come in when you are at your most vulnerable state and attack you for not spending enough quality time with them. What do you guys think?


bro you know were i stand on this subject! (im in the same boat)
make sure you can balance your life man.
really when it comes down to it your pc will always be there,
BUT your girl might not! which is it harder to live without?
just give her some love and attention. maybe try to include her, or show
her what it is you are doing while not focusing on her.
my girl thinks its cute that im into PC's because if you knew me you
would never guess that i was a total hardware geek :banana:
but the only reason she accepts it is because i make sure to come
out of the office every hour or 2 to say hi. try it girls love attention
and when you are on your PC its like your with another girl.

cantankerous
12-03-2004, 10:45 AM
well I talked to someone who is supposedly good with you guys. One of the only fully authorized dealers. No one else locally is even touching this stuff.

I think I snagged a pair though so all is good. Looks like I will be the first and only NFII tester for these chips.

Ol!ver
12-03-2004, 10:48 AM
well I talked to someone who is supposedly good with you guys. One of the only fully authorized dealers. No one else locally is even touching this stuff.

I think I snagged a pair though so all is good. Looks like I will be the first and only NFII tester for these chips.


Got a guy on a UK forum with em, seem ok but he's obviously pulled back by the chipset :(

Oli

odb
12-03-2004, 11:07 AM
long time reader/troll of this forum and finally had a reason to post.

this ram looks sweet but its so hard to find in canada its rediculous, i refuse to pay for shipping/brokerage fees from the states. i know its probably good business to seell alot of this stuff at one time, but to sell 2 whole manufacturing runs of this stuff right off the bat and short every other place out is crazy. i could see doing this after its been available for a while but so soon to do it. i just dont understand the logic behind it. its great for anyone near a Fry's store but anyone else gets shafted. Then reading this forum almost makes me cry just because i got to wait till next year, even tho its a month away, i dont know if i can take this.

lol

ryanpgroovy
12-03-2004, 11:40 AM
sorry guys , Were trying to get another production run in this year

amilian
12-03-2004, 11:40 AM
So my question still stands.....What is the most effective way to burn in this memory?
Ask the missus..... :stick: :slobber: ;) :toast: :banana: :banana4:

Seriously though, loops memtest is the best way.

cantankerous
12-03-2004, 12:17 PM
So Ol!ver, what did this mate manage to achieve with his sticks on NFII?