View Full Version : Powercolor X800XT PE Adventures
eva2000
11-13-2004, 06:37 AM
I managed to pick up a rare Powercolor X800XT PE AGP card locally :) It's stock speed is 520/560 according ATI Tool and idle and load GPU temps from ATI Tool = 36-39C idle and 64-68C load.
http://fileshosts.com/videocards/Powercolor/X800XTPE/1/small/X800XTPE_00.JPG http://fileshosts.com/videocards/Powercolor/X800XTPE/1/small/X800XTPE_16.JPG
http://fileshosts.com/videocards/Powercolor/X800XTPE/1/small/X800XTPE_22.JPG http://fileshosts.com/videocards/Powercolor/X800XTPE/1/small/X800XTPE_23.JPG
Front side has Samsung 419 GC16 chips, Backside has Samsung 422 GC16 chips heh
I used initially Omega 8.07 drivers then Cat 4.11 official. The Omega still was ~100pts faster in 3dmark2003 than Cat 4.11 for my card and faster in 3dmark2001 too. But here's a full set of 3dmarks using Cat 4.11 drivers at stock cpu speeds with my gaming OS image.
AMD64 3700+
DFI NF3 250Gb 05/10/04 4v bios
2x 512MB KHX3200/512 BH-5 @ 200mhz 2-2-2-6 1T
120GB WD 1200JB
LiteOn LDW-411s burner
580W Topower Adjustable PSU
Win2k SP4 fully loaded gaming OS image
Powercolor X800XT PE connected with OCZ VGA Enhanced power lead/molex
3dmark2001 = 29,147 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8241882) vs Omega 8.07 score of 29,243 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8239961)
3dmark2003 = 14,033 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3346517)
3dmark05 = 6,704 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=275385)
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/200-200-2226-1T-1.5-3-1.5-1.6_dsLVL2_16x_7x_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_600-603_29147_tn.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/200-200-2226-1T-1.5-3-1.5-1.6_dsLVL2_16x_7x_3120/3dmark2003_X800XTPE_600-606_14033_tn.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/200-200-2226-1T-1.5-3-1.5-1.6_dsLVL2_16x_7x_3120/3dmark05_X800XTPE_600-606_6704_tn.jpg
:cool:
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spaceman
11-13-2004, 07:23 AM
Looks pretty good. :toast: Can you do us Powercolor VIVO owners a favor, and see what your stock vgpu is? Thanx. :) Setting a VIVO at your voltage probly won't matter, but still, it would let us know what normal XT PE voltage should be. :cool:
eva2000
11-13-2004, 07:26 AM
Just took my DMM to it and if I'm reading it correctly it's 1.405v on GPU.
spaceman
11-13-2004, 07:53 AM
Just took my DMM to it and if I'm reading it correctly it's 1.405v on GPU.
Thanx. :toast: Interesting, it seems they use the same vgpu for all cards, pretty much. If they don't pass testing @ 1.4v, they throw them in the VIVO pile. :)
eva2000
11-13-2004, 10:27 AM
Well here's some results with cpu oc'd :) Room temps dropped 5C, so did GPU idle temps dropped from lowest 36C to 34C!
AMD64 3700+ @ 11x 246HTT = 2706mhz
2x 512MB KHX3200/512 BH-5 @ 246mhz 2-2-2-6 1T
Powercolor X800XT PE
@ 520/560 = 13,336 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3347386)
@ 602/605 = 14,563 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3347438)
3Dmark05
@ 602/605 = 6,766 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=280516)
3Dmark2001
@ 602/605 = 32,470 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8242435)
Aquamark3
@ 602/605 = 82,000 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=753482035)
Okay screenies
34C idle :cool:
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/ati_tool_34C_idle.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_602-605_32470_tn.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2003_X800XTPE_602-605_14563_tn.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark05_X800XTPE_602-605_6766_tn.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/aquamark3_X800XTPE_602-605_82000.jpg
FlyingHamster
11-13-2004, 10:41 AM
nice scores eva!
wut drivers have u found to be the best for your x800?? and do u use diff ones for say 2k1, 2k3, and 2k5?
eva2000
11-13-2004, 11:35 AM
i haven't used X800 card in a few months last i used was 4.9 with X800Pro, and back then used different drivers for each bench but right now can't be bothered with ghost OS imaging each variation :O
Updated screenies above :)
Kanavit
11-13-2004, 01:17 PM
Eva! you make me jeolous! so, between the x800xtpe and Asus 6800 ultra, which do you recommend for gaming, benchmarking, and overall experience?
Playful_Buffalo
11-13-2004, 01:43 PM
wow that was a very nice find!
are those oc's with the stock cooler?
eva2000
11-13-2004, 05:39 PM
yeah ocs on stock cooler :)
Kanavit, personally i prefer X800XT PE over 6800U
1. more control over managing GPU idle/load temps - you can do more to reduce these temps without extreme cooling i.e. zalman fan bracket + fan over card does wonders :)
2. X800XT PE much easier on my PSU than 6800U
3. Image quality on X800XT PE for me is better than 6800U
4. OCAU members 7 of us ordered from the same batch of Asus 6800U, only 2 or 3 of us came out with a good card, 4 or 5 buyers had to rma their Asus 6800U, and after a month or two some were sent back the same card saying they tested it fine with no problems - but the problems persist i.e. severe artifacting at stock speeds etc etc
blinky
11-13-2004, 05:53 PM
oooo i love adventures
eva2000
11-13-2004, 10:45 PM
Okay some FarCry v1.3 patched benchmarks :)
AMD64 3700+ 12x 200 = 2411mhz stock
DFI NF3 250Gb 05/10/04 4v bios
2x 512MB KHX3200/512 BH-5 @ 200mhz 2-2-2-6 1T
120GB WD 1200JB
LiteOn LDW-411s burner
580W Topower Adjustable PSU
Win2k SP4 fully loaded gaming OS image
Powercolor X800XT PE connected with OCZ VGA Enhanced power lead/molex
Using HardwareOC Farcry Bench v1.4 all benchmarks done with 4xAA and 4xAF
@520/560
HardwareOC Steam Demo results (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/200-200-2226-1T-1.5-3-1.5-1.6_dsLVL2_16x_7x_3120/farcryBenchv14/hardwareOC_steam_X800XTPE-520-560_4xAA_4xAF.html)
HardwareOC Volcano Demo results (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/200-200-2226-1T-1.5-3-1.5-1.6_dsLVL2_16x_7x_3120/farcryBenchv14/hardwareOC_volcano_X800XTPE-520-560_4xAA_4xAF.html)
TechReport Regulator Demo results (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/200-200-2226-1T-1.5-3-1.5-1.6_dsLVL2_16x_7x_3120/farcryBenchv14/techreport_regulator_X800XTPE-520-560_4xAA_4xAF.html)
@590/600
HardwareOC Steam Demo results (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/200-200-2226-1T-1.5-3-1.5-1.6_dsLVL2_16x_7x_3120/farcryBenchv14/hardwareOC_steam_X800XTPE-590-600_4xAA_4xAF.html)
HardwareOC Volcano Demo results (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/200-200-2226-1T-1.5-3-1.5-1.6_dsLVL2_16x_7x_3120/farcryBenchv14/hardwareOC_volcano_X800XTPE-590-600_4xAA_4xAF.html)
TechReport Regulator Demo results (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/200-200-2226-1T-1.5-3-1.5-1.6_dsLVL2_16x_7x_3120/farcryBenchv14/techreport_regulator_X800XTPE-590-600_4xAA_4xAF.html)
Would love to see some of the big FX53/55 boys with their X800XT @ 630+ core run Farcry v1.3 benchmarks for comparison :)
saaya
11-14-2004, 12:15 AM
nice little mini review! :D
eva2000
11-14-2004, 06:13 AM
thanks saaya
switched to dx8.1 and omega 8.07 drivers and so close to breaking 33k too.. managed 32,718 with car low bug @ 600/600 with cpu at 11x248 = 2728mhz heh
I'll be getting my Powercolor XT-PE in a few days time, hope it overclock as high as yours eva. :banana:
BTW, you're running the XT-PE at stock voltage right?
eva2000
11-14-2004, 08:52 AM
yeah it's all stock heatsink, stock volts
Playful_Buffalo
11-14-2004, 04:55 PM
thats some really nice results for stock HS and volts
its a shame they are almost impossible to buy :(
eva2000
11-14-2004, 05:27 PM
Thanks.. yeah they seem more rare than BH-5/6 ram hehe
Just some interesting driver comparisons
I get higher 3d2k1 with omega 8.07 than 4.11 with Powercolor X800XT PE
AMD64 3700+ @ stock speed
X800XT PE
omega 8.07 + DX8.1
@600/600 = 29,613
omega 8.07 + DX9.0C
@ 589/600 = 29,243
4.11 + DX9.0C
@ 602/605 = 29,147
cpu @ 2706-2728mhz
4.11 + DX9.0C = 32,240 with good car low run
Omega 8.07 + DX8.1 = 32,718 with poor car low run
FlyingHamster
11-14-2004, 05:33 PM
sorry, kinda offtopic, but eva do u know where can I download that Smartguardian program (if thats the correct name) that shows you the temps, volts, etc? got a link? (does it show u your vid card temp too?)
eva2000
11-14-2004, 05:39 PM
smartguadian is for DFI NF3 250Gb board or DFI's boards and is on the board's included driver cd - doesn't show GPU temps though for X800XT/PRO use ATI Tool
FlyingHamster
11-14-2004, 06:06 PM
oh ok, I have ATI Tool. where do I go to see the gpu temps?
eva2000
11-14-2004, 06:09 PM
ATI TOOL temp only for X800Pro/XT i think - settings -> monitoring temps
Playful_Buffalo
11-14-2004, 06:10 PM
i dont think 9800pro's have temp probes :(
eva2000
11-14-2004, 07:42 PM
I can smell 33k sniff.. sniff..:D
Powercolor X800XT PE @ 601/601 with Omega 8.07 drivers and DX8.1
= 32,963 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245289)
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/247-247-2226-1T-1.8-3.48-1.5-1.8_8x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_601-601_32963_tn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/247-247-2226-1T-1.8-3.48-1.5-1.8_8x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_601-601_32963.jpg)
FlyingHamster
11-14-2004, 09:23 PM
haha.. congrats eva! the scores keep goin up and up. 33k seems like its only a mhz away... ;)
sent u a PM too :D
eva2000
11-14-2004, 09:41 PM
woohoo! totally destroyed my old high score of 32,963!
Powercolor X800XT PE Stock heatsink @ 605/605 = 33,453 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245398)
DX8.1 with Omega 8.07
Win2K SP4 latest updates
Full system config in compre url description field :)
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_605-605_33453_tn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_605-605_33453.jpg)
FlyingHamster
11-14-2004, 10:41 PM
two thumbs wayy up. congrats again man. think thats the most your rig's got? or does she have some more juice left in her?? ;) :p:
:toast:
eva2000
11-14-2004, 10:46 PM
possibly squeeze some more out..have to try 2x 256MB BH-5 @ 10x 272mhz 2-2-2-6 as well ;)
r3b0rN
11-15-2004, 12:21 AM
congrats :toast:
eva2000
11-15-2004, 12:35 AM
And the higher we go.. just changed from 2x 512MB BH-5 to 2x 256MB BH-5 for some 270mhz 2-2-2-6 action :D
Powercolor X800XT PE Stock heatsink @ 605/605 = 33,788 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245540)
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_605-605_33788_tn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_605-605_33788.jpg)
spaceman
11-15-2004, 01:09 AM
Man, that's pretty sweet! :toast: I got my VIVO runnin' @ 600/600 now, so maybe I'll give ya a bit of competition, lol. :D All it needed was a PAL 8150 and 1.8v to the core. And of course the time & effort to make the PAL fit. ;)
misteroadster
11-15-2004, 01:24 AM
hello eva2000, good setup ;) come to take part has my contest 600/600 30K ;) :toast:
eva2000
11-15-2004, 01:41 AM
thanks spaceman looking forward to some healthy competition :)
hello eva2000, good setup ;) come to take part has my contest 600/600 30K ;) :toast:
will do...
Anyway thought I'd smash the 34k barrier :D
Powercolor X800XT PE stock heatsink @ 606/604 = 34,008 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245604)
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/271-271-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_606-604_34008_tn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/271-271-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_606-604_34008.jpg)
:D
Man you should really try some of the DNA-Drivers. They really work the best for me anyway. I never liked the Omega's or ATI's. V3.2.4.10 is the newest at the current moment I believe from them. Due to the new release of the v4.11s I am sure they will have a new version out soon.
eva2000
11-15-2004, 05:59 AM
DNA huh... might give it a try later. how much faster are they ?
The is where I am now. seems to be the max of the GPU, tried 612mhz but froze in car tests.
Powercolor X800XT PE stock heatsink @ 610/605 = 34,056 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245844) (car low bug in effect as normally i can get 472fps at 606/604)
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/271-271-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_610-605_34056_tn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/271-271-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_610-605_34056.jpg)
DNA huh... might give it a try later. how much faster are they ?
The is where I am now. seems to be the max of the GPU, tried 612mhz but froze in car tests.
Powercolor X800XT PE stock heatsink @ 610/605 = 34,056 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245844) (car low bug in effect as normally i can get 472fps at 606/604)
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/271-271-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_610-605_34056_tn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/271-271-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_610-605_34056.jpg)
Well all my highest scores and my friends highest scores have been with DNA-Drivers. They are highly tweaked. I never had much luck with the Omega's. I never liked their install anyway.
FlyingHamster
11-15-2004, 03:03 PM
Yea I am currently using the DNA drivers with my 9800pro. They give me the best 3dmark scores as well. Give 'em a try and see what they do eva. :)
=[PULSAR]=
11-15-2004, 03:07 PM
Eva2000 thats a really nice card you got there. Now time for some upgraded cooling and a vmod :D
=']Eva2000 thats a really nice card you got there. Now time for some upgraded cooling and a vmod :D
LoL...There is always room for better cooling and modding :D
It is very addicting. I can't believe I ordered another A64. I am spending too much money. I need to lock my Debt Card up so I can't use it...although it is stored on NewEgg lol...so that doesn't help me either there.
eva2000
11-15-2004, 08:09 PM
Aquamark3 rank #8 for X800 (R420) class
Powercolor X800XT PE @612/606 = 83,709
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1558837733
3dmark05
Powercolor X800XT PE stock heatsink @ 609/606 = 6,831 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=287517)
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.84-3.58-1.6-1.8_8-12-2212-16x-7x_3120/3dmark05_X800XTPE_609-606_6831_tn.jpg
HEHE Slap a XP-120 on it:D
misteroadster
11-16-2004, 09:28 AM
gpu clocks are not very important at 3Dmark2001 :
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8247863