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charlie
10-31-2004, 01:45 AM
Here ya go.

p4z1f1st
10-31-2004, 01:47 AM
swweeeeeettttt :D

edit: show us pics of the cooling, etc ;)

charlie
10-31-2004, 01:52 AM
This really has to be the FUNNEST CPU/Mobo I've ever owned....
It OC's like MAD, I can bench at like 330HTT with BH-5, it loves voltage, loves COOLNESS (as in open window, 16C), it's just GREAT kit.

11 x 273 = 3007mHz, 1.80 Vcore, 3.20Vdimm, DDR430, 2-2-2-5-7-16 1T

A few notes:
OCZ Powerstream 520W is just outstanding, A+++
CoolerMaster Hyper6, there "is" no substitute.
Good 'ole KHX3000, hehehehe.... still good for something!
OCZ DDR Booster, best thing to hit the OC community since caffeinated beverages!
MSI K8N Neo2, what can I say? It's the KX7-333R of the A64 world!
The Winchester core? I'm in love :D

BTW, LN2 meets Winchester sometime later this week, stay tuned.

R.Rabbit
10-31-2004, 01:04 AM
man, this makes me wish i had 400 extra dollars even more!

kappa2001
10-31-2004, 01:08 AM
Nice one! :slobber:

are there 3000+ winchester processors???
If there are, i'm going to buy one :D :banana:

STEvil
10-31-2004, 01:26 AM
hmm.. Hyper-6 vs. modified SLK-900U ;)

Lithan
10-31-2004, 01:38 AM
Kappa, yes there are. They sell for ~$175-225 depending on store and stock.

Nice clock Charlie. Where's it prime stable? 2800-2833ish?

Also, can this board run khx3000 1:1 or is it stuck at 5:6?

sky
10-31-2004, 01:46 AM
3ghz? on air? with amd? omg!
next thing i know, intel tries beating amd with lower clocks.. lol. did the world turn upside down while i was away stuffing some food?

awesome stuff, charlie! curious what that rig can do with a sniff of ln2 :D
hm and all of this smells upgrade time, soonish. oi ehhe

STEvil
10-31-2004, 01:49 AM
he had the spd of those sticks reprogrammed I think lithan.

reject
10-31-2004, 02:00 AM
watshisname will have an orgasm when he sees that

sky
10-31-2004, 02:40 AM
i *predict* he will, muhaha.. and i'll furthermore *predict* we'll see more bs about the gf4 scoring 50k in 2k1 with a wnichester... or stuff like that.. oh what fun. :stick: :D

Noktar
10-31-2004, 02:45 AM
omfg
I HAVE to buy a winchester this Christmas :)

Hallowed
10-31-2004, 02:46 AM
Awesome OC charlie! :toast:

I cant wait to hear you-know-who defend his claim that Winchester was like Tbred-A. ;)

j/k Ace. :D

Cashman
10-31-2004, 02:59 AM
Ive just put my order in for the 3500 Winchester!! Dunno on the motherboard or RAM yet but I have my Mach II GT waiting for this little beast!!

* MSI Neo2 or Asus A8V Rev2 Deluxe?

* G.Skill TCCD or ???

Whaddy'a say?

Lovely OC btw mate!!

FrozenGPU
10-31-2004, 03:17 AM
Congrats! That is a sick speed on air!! :banana:

R.Rabbit
10-31-2004, 04:04 AM
Ive just put my order in for the 3500 Winchester!! Dunno on the motherboard or RAM yet but I have my Mach II GT waiting for this little beast!!

* MSI Neo2 or Asus A8V Rev2 Deluxe?

* G.Skill TCCD or ???

Whaddy'a say?

Lovely OC btw mate!!
Opp seems to be doing pretty damn good with his MSI

Wimo
10-31-2004, 04:07 AM
The hyper 6 rocks... how much juice do you put through the cpu 24/7? I can go up to 1.85v on my 'old' 3200+ NC without it even getting hot ..

mrlobber
10-31-2004, 04:20 AM
Sweet lord.

I was thinking of building a waterchiller for my Mobile AXP, however, seeing this, my every day doubts of whether I better transfer funds to the buying-reserve for one of these new bad babies, seem to have received a decisive boost.

st0nedpenguin
10-31-2004, 04:51 AM
Holy fiddlesticks Batman, did I pick a great time to start browsing XS again! :slobber:

misteroadster
10-31-2004, 05:47 AM
Charlie can you give us the stepping of your 3500+ please ;)

arj
10-31-2004, 05:48 AM
OMG, what to get for xmas? :(

130nm 3200+ Newcastle with strained silicon (week 32+) for cheap.

or

90nm 3200+ Winchester + ASUS / MSI for alot more.


To go with a Prommie! :)

:confused:

"BTW, LN2 meets Winchester sometime later this week, stay tuned."

Cant wait for that! :slobber:

Go for the Winchester. They rock! :D

megahurtz-oc
10-31-2004, 05:55 AM
that explains why there is a 3500 is second place under opp in 3d05 wow.

drunkenmaster
10-31-2004, 06:56 AM
what rev is the msi board? i have one thats complete crap, ex review model though so probo a very early one. Might only be rev 1.00's for all i know, but i assume there are slight differences.

THough, have to say charlie, the cpu clock is amazing, but haven't most nf3 boards from 150 up till now been able to do 330HTT. I mean, gigabyte nf3 150 k8n pro and mines still going along at that, since about day 3, since last september.

Based on hating MSI, i ordered an epox, not supposed to be great, but only heard from like 2 people and ones doing good. Will see if its any good tomorrow hopefully. Very dissappointed with, afaik its 1.7vcore and 2.8vdimm in bios :(. Ah well.

Also got XP120's here, and got a hyper 6 and asus ice star arriving tomorrow so will finally see what the difference between them is. If the xp120 ain't as good i can't see a reason for getting one as its a PITA to fit. What fans you running on the hyper 6?

ocmyface
10-31-2004, 07:41 AM
stepping please and omg... amazing oc charlie, what is it prime stable at?

misteroadster
10-31-2004, 07:44 AM
i've tested any 3500+ 0,09 and it gives me 20 pts more than FX55 with same setings at 3DM05 , very closer at 3DM03.
The 3500+ can't compete at same frequency at 3DM2K1 but with 200mhz more it can outperform it.

Cashman
10-31-2004, 07:52 AM
what mobo's have you been using the Winnies on? Which is the best and with what RAM?

Webzta
10-31-2004, 08:36 AM
Was there a reply as to what you managed to get it 100% stable at? was it 3ghz or was that enough for some benchies + a screenshot...

charlie
10-31-2004, 10:34 AM
All,
Heheheh... yeah, I was wondering what HE'D say when he saw this, lol.

Stable? Well, it's a story of two CPU's. At 24C ambient, with 1.6v I could run sPi 1M @ 2750ish and 8M around 2700.
At 15C ambient, and north of 1.8v, I could run sPi 1M@ 2900 and 8M @ 2850ish. I don't use PRIME95 any more on benching rigs, because if it benches, that IS stability as far as I'm concerned.
Hyper6, mmmmm.... bad dog :D I'm running a 80mm Tornado on it, with a fan controller of course.
Stepping, I was so anxious to get it in that I forgot to look :confused: I got it from Monarch on their 3rd batch, so I'd suspect week >40

krampak
10-31-2004, 10:59 AM
All this is with the IHS on it?

charlie
10-31-2004, 11:29 AM
All this is with the IHS on it?

yeah, haven't torn it off. Probably won't, cuz when attaching LN2/DI container, too big a chance of cracking core.

C

fatty
10-31-2004, 11:36 AM
What bios are you using as I couldnt run my winchester under -20 once it hit -20 off she went

charlie
10-31-2004, 11:49 AM
What bios are you using as I couldnt run my winchester under -20 once it hit -20 off she went

What cooling? If on a VapoLS it may be a MOBO issue.
I use 1.3b6

pik-ard v1.1
10-31-2004, 01:45 PM
that explains why there is a 3500 is second place under opp in 3d05 wow.
im still surprised that it can do that at only 2.76ghz...

charlie
10-31-2004, 03:21 PM
im still surprised that it can do that at only 2.76ghz...

that's a bogus score....

how could it be real, look at the #'s

C

pik-ard v1.1
10-31-2004, 03:25 PM
opp:
fx-55 @ 3547mhz
X800XT 810/664
GT1 - 39.1 fps
GT2 - 24.1 fps
GT3 - 41.7 fps

Blueremy
3500+ @ 2762mhz
X800XTPE 801/651
GT1 - 40.2 fps
GT2 - 22.9 fps
GT3 - 42.5 fps

that 2.76ghz is acting like a 3.6ghz a64...

WildKard
10-31-2004, 05:38 PM
There was a huge thread about that guy cheating in 3dmark03 :/ he kept PS Nulling for over 18k and saying it was real...I wouldnt trust his scores :stick:

jax7480
10-31-2004, 08:22 PM
I don't use PRIME95 any more on benching rigs, because if it benches, that IS stability as far as I'm concerned.


I also aggree with that. It depends on how you want the system to run.
You want it for everyday usage, or "bench" usage. :D

Charlie I expected more though from a CPU like that even with good air. The HTT that U use and the memory FSB is too high for such a low score. I think you didn't optimize your OS for the bench, even though its a bench rig. ;)

My score(attached) is the same as yours(although you're closer to 29, yours goes 28-->30, mine goes 29-->30) but you are 50MHz more on CPU and 25MHz more on RAM with more aggressive timings.


The score below is with stock cooler and Balistix PC3200(2.5-2-2-5-1T).
For the record the CPU is a Newcastle, Model 15, Generation 15, Version 0.6

JNav89GT
10-31-2004, 09:21 PM
I got one from monarch this past thursday or fri, their last shipping batch. Can do 2.75ghz at about 1.625v or so. 13% over default on 1.3B6 bios. I can't believe it really. Can't wait to throw it in a prommy :). I was gonna get an FX55 but I might just sell my FX53 and get another one of these and hold out for FX57 :)

Geforce4ti4200
10-31-2004, 09:48 PM
know whats funny? I had predicted 3GHz from winchesters on air cooling, although I had my own doubts, it turned out I was partially right. not 100% since at room temp you max out at 2.75GHz at 1.6v but with winter air you hit 3GHz. My prediction didnt really specify temp, but obviously colder air yields higher overclocks. However your example comes closer to my prediction than any other example and shows what winchesters should be and are to come. I am selling my newcastle that will 3dmark at 2.62GHz but crashes often while 3dmarking, not 100% stable. Winchester will be mine pretty soon. Ok I agree there are some bad batches of winchesters that wont even do 2.5GHz and some good ones that do near or at 3GHz with above freezing good air cooling. I wont touch your 3GHz but I will be happy to hit 2.8GHz when I get one. off topic: hows that ti4200 of yours overclock? hit 400/800+ yet? :slobber:

Super strokey
10-31-2004, 11:24 PM
and so it begins....

blinky
11-01-2004, 12:12 AM
know whats funny? I had predicted 3GHz from winchesters on air cooling, although I had my own doubts, it turned out I was partially right. not 100% since at room temp you max out at 2.75GHz at 1.6v but with winter air you hit 3GHz. My prediction didnt really specify temp, but obviously colder air yields higher overclocks. However your example comes closer to my prediction than any other example and shows what winchesters should be and are to come.
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OC Detective
11-01-2004, 12:23 AM
Ever heard the phrase "one swallow does not make a summer"?
Maybe you should delete this linked thread to reflect your CURRENT line of thinking? (Unless you think it may change again that is.....)http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=338963

STEvil
11-01-2004, 01:40 AM
Ever heard the phrase "one swallow does not make a summer?

uh.. no.

The Coolest
11-01-2004, 06:27 AM
know whats funny? I had predicted 3GHz from winchesters on air cooling, although I had my own doubts, it turned out I was partially right. not 100% since at room temp you max out at 2.75GHz at 1.6v but with winter air you hit 3GHz. My prediction didnt really specify temp, but obviously colder air yields higher overclocks. However your example comes closer to my prediction than any other example and shows what winchesters should be and are to come. I am selling my newcastle that will 3dmark at 2.62GHz but crashes often while 3dmarking, not 100% stable. Winchester will be mine pretty soon. Ok I agree there are some bad batches of winchesters that wont even do 2.5GHz and some good ones that do near or at 3GHz with above freezing good air cooling. I wont touch your 3GHz but I will be happy to hit 2.8GHz when I get one. off topic: hows that ti4200 of yours overclock? hit 400/800+ yet? :slobber:

If you read his posts, you'll see its can only bench at around 2.8GHz, that's not even prime95 stable, so if that CPU hits 2.7-2.75GHz prime95 stable I'd be impressed. 3GHz in my mind is 3GHz Prime95 stable for over 24hours, not "stable enough to get into windows and take screenshot". I'm not saying that the overclock isn't impressive, I'm just saying that we're not at 3GHz just yet.

Shade00
11-01-2004, 08:35 AM
If you read his posts, you'll see its can only bench at around 2.8GHz, that's not even prime95 stable, so if that CPU hits 2.7-2.75GHz prime95 stable I'd be impressed. 3GHz in my mind is 3GHz Prime95 stable for over 24hours, not "stable enough to get into windows and take screenshot". I'm not saying that the overclock isn't impressive, I'm just saying that we're not at 3GHz just yet.

I agree completely. While it is an impressive overclock, and closer to 3ghz, it's still not there yet. The max stable point probably isn't that much higher than what we can get on later CGs.

charlie
11-01-2004, 10:40 AM
A little clarification....

I live in SoCal, so it's not exactly "winter air" :rolleyes:
Yup, the best 1M sPi was @ 2.83gHz, 15C ambient, not exactly "freezing air".

This isn't a finely tuned benching setup. I set up the cpu/board in a case and loaded WinXP with my broadband hooked up. I've been using it to surf around the house and d/l new drivers and burn some new benching discs. It's NOT a full-blown benching rig, lol.
I have win2Ksp4 here and WinServer 2003 for 3D/Pi benching respectively. Later in the week I'll set up a bench for some REAL overclocking. I just wanted to show what it could do in a case on air with winxp.
A few more notes, my FX-53 (the same one that I ran up to 3441mHz) wouldn't run sPi at 2830.... hehehehehe...
My final goal is about 11 x 310 = 3410mHz, DDR502.... with some 3D north of 3.3gHz....

You know, even the XP-M Bartons were RARE to run 3G+ 24/7 Prime Stable on anything less than 88dB air!

C

CodeRed
11-01-2004, 01:00 PM
Charlie, are you going to use dry ice or LN2?

charlie
11-01-2004, 01:05 PM
Charlie, are you going to use dry ice or LN2?

Gonna try both. My new container is .675 thick and 1300grams of PURE COPPER...

WesM63
11-01-2004, 01:37 PM
Nice clocks charlie :)

trans am
11-01-2004, 03:52 PM
I noticed retail boxes with winchesters are becoming more and more available. I wonder if they are going to do better than OEM's. They may be better yields with later steppings. Has anyone tried a retail winchester yet? zzf has the 3000+ retail for $182.

BTW, Excellent job Charlie!

jinu117
11-04-2004, 11:11 AM
Gonna try both. My new container is .675 thick and 1300grams of PURE COPPER...

Before you go all out, I suggest you check on your vapor phase cooling to see if it reboots fine, boots fine etc. At least after CMOS reset, I was able to boot up when I was -50c or south. However, if I save anything in bios... it just won't boot. This sympton didn't exist above -10c. This is with MSI K8N Neo2 bios 1.2, 1.3, 1.35, 1.36, 1.37 as well as Giga K8NS-ultra 939 F2.
It would suck to pour LN2 over only to find out mobo would refuse to boot.
(still fooling around prime @ 2.6ghz now... around 1.52v now) ...
What do you think is threshold for stock air cooling in S. Cal at this time of year? :P killing time with air while I am getting my A8V to see if this one will boot sub 40...

DCR
11-04-2004, 11:29 AM
OCZ DDR Booster, best thing to hit the OC community since caffeinated beverages!

Nope...sorry I have to correct you here:

OCZ DDR Booster, best thing to hit the OC community since caffeinated beverages mixed with Bacardi Rum!

There you go.

Nice OC by the way, and I am leaning toward a 3500+ Winchester myself.

_@_
11-04-2004, 03:35 PM
Sick overclock :stick:


:banana:

Garrett
11-05-2004, 02:36 AM
Is the stepping checked yet? :D
I'm anxious to know :stick:

Geforce4ti4200
11-05-2004, 12:20 PM
its $180 now at zipzoomfly, any guesses how cheap the retail 3000+ will be by xmas? $160?

mad mikee
11-05-2004, 12:35 PM
I got one from monarch this past thursday or fri, their last shipping batch. Can do 2.75ghz at about 1.625v or so. 13% over default on 1.3B6 bios. I can't believe it really. Can't wait to throw it in a prommy :). I was gonna get an FX55 but I might just sell my FX53 and get another one of these and hold out for FX57 :)

Since I just ordered mine I figured I'd ask :D

charlie
11-05-2004, 12:44 PM
Is the stepping checked yet? :D
I'm anxious to know :stick:

OK :D
I finally checked it when I removed the Hyper6 for some...... "alternate" cooling, hehehehe...
It is:

CBBFD 0437VPAW

JNav89GT
11-05-2004, 12:45 PM
lol
I dunno, didn't really pay much attention, just slapped it in :)

Alex08
11-05-2004, 02:40 PM
The cpu 3200+ oem i got yesterday from monarch was labeled:

CBBFD 0441TPAW

its doing 2.8ghz @ 1.65, but bios and cpu-z reporting 1.58, but that's the max my mem can go 1:1 is 280 and stuck with 10multi.

charlie
11-05-2004, 03:19 PM
The cpu 3200+ oem i got yesterday from monarch was labeled:

CBBFD 0441TPAW

its doing 2.8ghz @ 1.65, but bios and cpu-z reporting 1.58, but that's the max my mem can go 1:1 is 280 and stuck with 10multi.

wow! look at that.... must still be "warm".... fresh outta' the oven!

C

Zebo
11-05-2004, 10:41 PM
its $180 now at zipzoomfly, any guesses how cheap the retail 3000+ will be by xmas? $160?
You can get it for 160 retail for the last two weeks at Mwave.com with farcry in thier mobo combo...


Or for $150 w/o combo!!


Check it.:)

Squid_Spit
11-06-2004, 02:10 AM
Excellent job charlie thats an awesome oc. :up:

IvanAndreevich
11-06-2004, 07:00 PM
WTH - 2.8 @ 1.65V? Do you mean relatively stable by that?

Geforce4ti4200
11-06-2004, 09:27 PM
2.8GHz is nice, must be using chilled water too. I have seen 3000+ winchester for $150 at monarch but its oem and old stepping. I want a retail one with heatsink/fan and also a msi k8n neo2.

Shade00
11-06-2004, 09:31 PM
2.8GHz is nice, must be using chilled water too. I have seen 3000+ winchester for $150 at monarch but its oem and old stepping. I want a retail one with heatsink/fan and also a msi k8n neo2.

... And how do you know it's an old stepping?

If you're going to stick with A64, you might as well by an aftermarket HSF. They're a lot better than the stock fan.

trans am
11-06-2004, 10:12 PM
My 3200+ retail from 0437 crapped out at 2.45 just my luck.

IvanAndreevich
11-06-2004, 10:31 PM
How many volts did you give it?

Alex08
11-07-2004, 12:19 AM
WTH - 2.8 @ 1.65V? Do you mean relatively stable by that?

are you referring to my post?

2.7ghz is stable on my shuttle sn95g5. 2.8ghz is not stable because its either the board or my mem. the max htt/fsb the shuttle gives is 280.

I havent tried more volts or less volts, i thought 1.65v was good enough.

the heatsink on the shuttle is the newer heatpipe w/ a 92mm fan.

edit: just tested 2.7ghz at 1.6v bios, cpu-z reads 1.52v. 31sec superpi.

IvanAndreevich
11-07-2004, 01:16 AM
Alex08
Hell of a chip you got there.. Doing great even with massive undervolting from the board, it seems.

causticVapor
11-07-2004, 01:43 AM
I just ordered a 3000+ winchester for a new a64 rig, expecting maybe 2.5 tops...then I see this...lol. Then again, it is a 3000+, so 2.5 would be really good.

trans am
11-07-2004, 11:43 AM
How many volts did you give it?

started at stock and went up to 1.7v. just didn't like anything. :(

exact same chip as Charlie's

STEvil
11-07-2004, 01:42 PM
may be getting too hot. My CG doesnt like above 1.75v so far with stock cooling, hopefully that will change when I put something else on it ;)

funkflix
11-07-2004, 05:44 PM
Have an nice screen here, too. :D

http://people.freenet.de/funkflix/2920mhz.jpg

I love that proz. !

IvanAndreevich
11-07-2004, 06:03 PM
Just a screen, or semi-stable?

trans am
11-07-2004, 06:03 PM
may be getting too hot. My CG doesnt like above 1.75v so far with stock cooling, hopefully that will change when I put something else on it ;)

temps were 33c load with good water.

GRiM
11-07-2004, 11:18 PM
http://koti.phnet.fi/lehtopa1/winchester.png

Stable, using neo2, zalman 7000a-cu. In need of new ram/ddr booster, have to run my mushkin bh-5 at 193MHz right now, killing a bit of the performance ;)

Garrett
11-08-2004, 02:38 AM
OMG :slobber: seeing these results makes me so curious what I'll get...
Next weekend I'll get my stuff (MSI K8N Neo2 board + 939 cpu... prolly 3200+)
:thumbsup:

-edit-
Can anyone tell me if that MSI board undervolts or not, please? :D
overvolting is the thing I don't mind ;)

funkflix
11-08-2004, 08:53 AM
Just a screen, or semi-stable?

Just a screen! ;) I was a bit afraid bcs of the Vcore.

Full stable is 2750MHz @ 1,53V :D (good enough imho)

@Garrett

It overvolts a bit! :)

Garrett
11-08-2004, 10:37 AM
Good thing GravediggA... btw nice stepping :thumbsup: I'm gonna look for 1 too... like I said... can't wait :toast:

IvanAndreevich
11-08-2004, 06:55 PM
Man.. look at these results! 2.7 Ghz is doable on water.. Mmm.

Charlie where are your jaw-dropping results? :D

Geforce4ti4200
11-09-2004, 11:04 PM
Just got a winchester and gigabyte nf3 too! wish me luck on 3GHz. I may or may not hit 3GHz but I will surely try! If the max htt is 300 for that mobo, then 2.7 is all ill have. need 333ht cause max multi is 9.

JNav89GT
11-09-2004, 11:10 PM
just got 2 from Monarch, 3500+'s
both suck ass!
won't do 2.7ghz :(

WesM63
11-09-2004, 11:14 PM
Hopefully the 3500+ winnie i'm ordering from ZZF.com works good.

Garrett
11-09-2004, 11:54 PM
GF4 what's the stepping?

sky
11-10-2004, 12:23 AM
just got 2 from Monarch, 3500+'s
both suck ass!
won't do 2.7ghz :(

winnies or nc? steppings please :)

Alex08
11-10-2004, 12:42 AM
from monarch..

3200+ 90nm
0441TPAW
CBBFD

2.7ghz @ 1.6v on 29c ambient roomtemp - aircooled.

recently, for some reason people who've been getting chips from monarch are getting a lower week number than me.

Geforce4ti4200
11-10-2004, 05:05 AM
as soon as the cpu comes ill tell you the stepping. if you cant hit 2.7GHz, what is the max you hit? have you made sure your ram isnt the one holding you back? run it async just in case. I have been hearing stories how widely winchesters vary in overclock, very inconstant. I have seen them do anywhere from 2.3GHz to 2.8GHz on air 3dmark stable. I am not sure if charlie's 3GHz is 3dmark stable past 2.8 though. does it matter if its a 3000+ or 3500+ do they all have the same probability? because I saw one guy get 2.6GHz stable on his 3000+ and 2.7GHz was good enough for superPI only. Maybe I will get 3GHz like charlie did, who knows

JNav89GT
11-10-2004, 06:18 AM
winnies or nc? steppings please :)
winchester
week 37
don't have stepping though. At least not on me!

Lithan
11-10-2004, 11:46 AM
Winchester 0436 xpmw = ~2450 @ 1.7vcore on air Retail
Winchester 0437 wpmw = ~2500 @ 1.7vcore on air OEM
Both 3000+


Looks like you need a week 40+ for a shot at 2700mhz on air.


Edit: Scratch that, The 0437 did the same speed (2250) @ stock vcore as the 0436 and was priming at 2500 when I posted... but it keeps going up. I'm priming @ 2650 right now, so I'd say 2600 isn't too much to hope for stable on air out of it. Knock on wood.

charlie
11-10-2004, 01:22 PM
Man.. look at these results! 2.7 Ghz is doable on water.. Mmm.

Charlie where are your jaw-dropping results? :D

:(
Because of the Winny/Neo2/Subzero bug, I can't freeze the Winnie! 3G on air would have translated to 3.5gHz on LN2........

C

Geforce4ti4200
11-10-2004, 02:02 PM
so your selling it for a fx55? some of those fx55 have the same issues like Jasons but Opainters doesnt as long as he uses win2003 and not 2000. fx55s also cost almost 900 bones

Freya
11-10-2004, 06:40 PM
Winchester 0436 xpmw = ~2450 @ 1.7vcore on air Retail
Winchester 0437 wpmw = ~2500 @ 1.7vcore on air OEM
Both 3000+


Looks like you need a week 40+ for a shot at 2700mhz on air.


Edit: Scratch that, The 0437 did the same speed (2250) @ stock vcore as the 0436 and was priming at 2500 when I posted... but it keeps going up. I'm priming @ 2650 right now, so I'd say 2600 isn't too much to hope for stable on air out of it. Knock on wood.

Which motherboard and memory are you using to achieve those kind of clocks? And where did you order your cpu's from?

Lithan
11-10-2004, 08:09 PM
I'm using the giga k8ns 939 ultra and BH5

The retail is from mwave
Oem is from monarchpc


Stable at 2600mhz for over 6 hrs @ 1.70vcore. Much better than the last. I'm quite pleased, though it's n0 3ghz on air. ;)

Freya
11-11-2004, 05:38 AM
I'm using the giga k8ns 939 ultra and BH5

The retail is from mwave
Oem is from monarchpc


Stable at 2600mhz for over 6 hrs @ 1.70vcore. Much better than the last. I'm quite pleased, though it's n0 3ghz on air. ;)

Which chip is stable at 2600? Both of them?

Lithan
11-11-2004, 06:48 AM
the OEM

Below Ambient
11-11-2004, 09:28 PM
OK :D
I finally checked it when I removed the Hyper6 for some...... "alternate" cooling, hehehehe...
It is:

CBBFD 0437VPAW


sweet!! mine is a CBBFD 0437MPMW !!!

got it from newegg... retail box... i ordered it monday night

Lithan
11-11-2004, 09:45 PM
CBBFD 0437WPMW = 2600mhz @ 1.7vcore on air.

Geforce4ti4200
11-11-2004, 10:33 PM
I would never run that much volts 24/7 anyway. whatever my cpu does on 1.5v be it. slightly higher for benches

Shade00
11-11-2004, 10:37 PM
If it's not running hot then 1.7v is fine.

MaxxxRacer
11-12-2004, 01:38 AM
wow, these are some incredible speeds. I cant wait to get my winnie and msi k8n. Just gotta wait for the paycheck to come...

IvanAndreevich
11-12-2004, 12:01 PM
Charlie, why don't you use another mobo?

Was advising my friend with an FX-53 to go Winchester, but he went FX-55 :stick:

Lithan
11-12-2004, 12:14 PM
Hell these chips run just fine @ 1.7vcore on stock cooling. I wouldn't do it 24/7, but I ran 24 hrs of prime just fine at 2450 1.7vcore stock cooling.

MaxxxRacer
11-12-2004, 12:34 PM
nice oc there alex.. I cant wait to get my winnie 3200..

IvanAndreevich
11-12-2004, 09:40 PM
Lithan
No wonder you were selling it. What kind of temps were you getting with that @ 1.7V with stock cooling?

Geforce4ti4200
11-12-2004, 10:16 PM
Charlie, why don't you use another mobo?

Was advising my friend with an FX-53 to go Winchester, but he went FX-55 :stick:



he wanted 1mb cache and a better shot at 3GHz and probably had too much $$$$$$$ :stick: :confused:

MaxxxRacer
11-12-2004, 10:18 PM
too much cash... no such thing...

IvanAndreevich
11-12-2004, 10:28 PM
Well, I just got him a deal on it - 700 USD. He couldn't resist.

FrozenGPU
11-13-2004, 03:59 AM
Hell these chips run just fine @ 1.7vcore on stock cooling. I wouldn't do it 24/7, but I ran 24 hrs of prime just fine at 2450 1.7vcore stock cooling.

Would you run 24/7 if you had a CM Hyper 6?

Geforce4ti4200
11-13-2004, 01:47 PM
too much cash... no such thing...


youd be supprised my man at what $$$$$ some spent, they act like they have their own money tree :stick:

IvanAndreevich
11-14-2004, 10:32 PM
Any success?

Skeet
11-15-2004, 07:13 AM
Would you run 24/7 if you had a CM Hyper 6?
Run 1.75 247 on stock haha.

Garrett
11-15-2004, 03:35 PM
I got a 3500+ but with the exact same stepping, I gotta get goin' with that waterblock fixup :toast:

IvanAndreevich
11-16-2004, 01:38 AM
Buddy's FX-55 does 2.8 Ghz @ 1.6V. Brand new, burning in..

=[PULSAR]=
11-16-2004, 10:04 AM
Charlie whats the highest stable you got for 24/7 use and the load temp?