View Full Version : 600w Powerstream available now
chunkylover77
10-29-2004, 02:23 PM
Hey guys. Looks like excaliberpc has these psu's in stock and ready to ship.
http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=4285
chunkylover77
10-29-2004, 02:32 PM
And I just ordered one. :toast:
Dissolved
10-29-2004, 02:37 PM
Site is down.. :\
NM. Back up again..
"60 months warranty, 36 months Powerswap warranty plus 24 months of limited warranty." or "Warranty Length:5 Years Manufacture Warranty"
Why do they list 2 different warrantys?
Last Edit(promise): Sorry my Cup'o'tea certianly didnt have enough sugar in it as i couldnt seem to compute 60months=5years. Thanks steve :D
SteveOCZ
10-29-2004, 03:07 PM
60 months is the total time (5 years). You get 36 months (3 years) of the power swap service....basically if your PSU dies we send you a new one asap and then 2 years of limited warranty where we fix or replace the psu depending on the situations
chunkylover77
10-29-2004, 03:17 PM
Steve do you know if the whole psu is sleeved?
Dissolved
10-29-2004, 03:25 PM
Steve do you know if the whole psu is sleeved?
I hope so, i would like to see pics, as im thinking about this psu, even tho i wont use 600watts, but hey bigger numbers always look better in sigs :b33r:
Tedinde
10-29-2004, 03:25 PM
Who's computer needs a 600 watt supply?? Im running my duallie xeon 3.6ghzx2 and a 6800 ultra on a fortron 300 aurora no problems. And using my watt meter im only pulling 230 watt's under 100% cpu load??
Unless your going to be running some electric wasting pelts. I could put that $200 to use elseware in the computer.
But i guess if you gotta have the biggest stick, this is it.
saaya
10-29-2004, 03:33 PM
230W? 75% psu efficiency=175W real power consumption
6800U=65W
115W for a dual xeon 3.6ghz? that sounds impossible ted :confused:
are you sure thats not idle? it sounds about right for idle.
115W
30W chipset
20W memory
32W for each cpu
sounds about right...
but a xeon nocona pulls at least 100W of electricity under load if not more like 110W... 3.6ghz prescotts pull 125W under full load...
STEvil
10-29-2004, 03:35 PM
I'd use 600w :D
STEvil
10-29-2004, 03:37 PM
saaya - if he has an ammeter he can test from the wall socket without having to run % efficiency conversions, but I do agree 230w is low.
Dissolved
10-29-2004, 03:37 PM
http://www.seasonic.com/new/powerangel.htm
Around 30bucks, will tell you what any device linked up to it is drawing in amps. Very usefull, im going to buy one myself :)
I'm having some serious issues with my 520W's 12V-Rail, so I guess I'll give this one a shot.
Curious when it will be available in Europe, tho. :stick:
SteveOCZ
10-29-2004, 03:47 PM
What problems are you having? Send me an email and I'll get it sorted out for you
steve3 at ocztechnology dot com
I'm not sure about the sleving since I haven't seen them yet either
Nanobot
10-29-2004, 04:02 PM
I'm not sure about the sleving since I haven't seen them yet either
Err..why has no one seen a final retail version of this PSU at OCZ while it is now for sale online?
Dont you guys at OCZ do Q&A on final retail products before releasing it to the market ? :confused:
Pre-production sample can work fine but final products are sometimes subject to factory defaults due to early production line glitches.
I know I would want to make sure a component as important as a power supply gets final approval of it's retail version before release .
Dissolved
10-29-2004, 04:03 PM
What problems are you having? Send me an email and I'll get it sorted out for you
steve3 at ocztechnology dot com
I'm not sure about the sleving since I haven't seen them yet either
if not would it void out the warranty if i were to put on my own?
and would you guys ever offer any modding services like VR pots instead of single turns? :|
Jupiler
10-29-2004, 04:25 PM
Curious when it will be available in Europe, tho. :stick:
Looking at the price (199$), i'd expect it for 230-240€ over here in Europe (although 199$ = 155€). :rolleyes:
Let's hope I'm wrong about this.
saaya
10-29-2004, 05:39 PM
saaya - if he has an ammeter he can test from the wall socket without having to run % efficiency conversions, but I do agree 230w is low.
what do you mean? how else does he meassure the power consumed if not between the plug of the psu and the wall?
and that means he is meassuring the power the entire system consumes, wich means 20-30% is lost to the psu for converting ac to dc, no?
Err..why has no one seen a final retail version of this PSU at OCZ while it is now for sale online?
Dont you guys at OCZ do Q&A on final retail products before releasing it to the market ? :confused:
Pre-production sample can work fine but final products are sometimes subject to factory defaults due to early production line glitches.
I know I would want to make sure a component as important as a power supply gets final approval of it's retail version before release .
im sure the fab that builds the psus tests them, not their central office :P hehe
so lets say ted meassured the 230W without the psus efficiency, but after the psu, then its 230W...
a prescott 3.6ghz pulls 100W+ and a nocona wont pull significantly less, maybe 10W if it runs with a lower vcore, but then its still around 100W...
then this leaves 30W for the videocard+chipset+memory... thats still impossible...
ted how did you meassure? :D
Tedinde
10-29-2004, 05:44 PM
230W? 75% psu efficiency=175W real power consumption
6800U=65W
115W for a dual xeon 3.6ghz? that sounds impossible ted :confused:
are you sure thats not idle? it sounds about right for idle.
115W
30W chipset
20W memory
32W for each cpu
sounds about right...
but a xeon nocona pulls at least 100W of electricity under load if not more like 110W... 3.6ghz prescotts pull 125W under full load...
My xeons are pulling 1.36v, im using my killawatt meter to measure power consumption that the power supply is using from the AC in the wall, I'll post some pics.
http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
im using this. but i guess the conversions it could be pulling a lot more watts on the DC side. Im just saying how many watts my Computer is using out of the wall!!!
SteveOCZ
10-30-2004, 01:30 AM
Well I don't work at OCZ (the office in california). I'm in Europe so that is why I haven't seen them. I know we tested out a bunch before we actually sent these to retail.
If you can sleeve the PSU in a manner that doesn't change anything then your fine. If you ever have to RMA it you would be best to remove the sleeving. So basically don't cut anything and your ok. I don't know about POT modding though
eva2000
10-30-2004, 03:17 AM
Ted some people do need 600+ W psus :D
Load power consumed = 614W
Idle power consumed = 433W
http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/asus/p4c800e_results/HC200_results/3.2EE/OCZ/PC3500LE/2x512/Asus6800U/images/6800U_445-1100_32EE_240FSB_433to614W.jpg
just 6x 120x38mm Delta 190cfm @ 36W/each = 216W startup draw and 144W operating draw hehe
3.2EE @ 103W clocked at 4ghz with 1.85v vcore
6800U clocked at 455/1255
you do the math :)
blinky
10-30-2004, 03:28 AM
just 6x 120x38mm Delta 190cfm @ 36W/each = 216W startup draw and 144W operating draw hehepost pics of your sound insulating ear muffs please :D
SPiKE
10-30-2004, 03:36 AM
post pics of your sound insulating ear muffs please :D
:p: :p: :p:
eva2000
10-30-2004, 03:52 AM
post pics of your sound insulating ear muffs please :D
Huh ? I couldn't hear you ? :D
uclajd
10-30-2004, 06:46 AM
Run an overclocked Pressy and three HD's AND a 6800 GT and multiple fans, then tell me this is about having the biggest stick. I can't wait to get a 600W OCZ. :toast:
But thanks for your contribution to the thread! :rolleyes:
Who's computer needs a 600 watt supply?? Im running my duallie xeon 3.6ghzx2 and a 6800 ultra on a fortron 300 aurora no problems. And using my watt meter im only pulling 230 watt's under 100% cpu load??
Unless your going to be running some electric wasting pelts. I could put that $200 to use elseware in the computer.
But i guess if you gotta have the biggest stick, this is it.
masterofpuppets
10-30-2004, 06:57 AM
What is the peak output of these units? 600w? Or do OCZ measure their wattage like PCP&C?
SteveOCZ
10-30-2004, 07:20 AM
700W peak for 60 seconds
masterofpuppets
10-30-2004, 07:36 AM
I gotta watercool one of these babies to get increased peak time. 700watts = drooling.
chunkylover77
10-30-2004, 09:53 AM
I'll take pics when I get this
Playful_Buffalo
10-30-2004, 10:25 AM
cant wait, looks promising
though its kinda weird that excalibur has the item in stock - yet no pictures
saaya
10-30-2004, 02:59 PM
Ted some people do need 600+ W psus :D
Load power consumed = 614W
Idle power consumed = 433W
http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/asus/p4c800e_results/HC200_results/3.2EE/OCZ/PC3500LE/2x512/Asus6800U/images/6800U_445-1100_32EE_240FSB_433to614W.jpg
just 6x 120x38mm Delta 190cfm @ 36W/each = 216W startup draw and 144W operating draw hehe
3.2EE @ 103W clocked at 4ghz with 1.85v vcore
6800U clocked at 455/1255
you do the math :)
a 3.2EE should be more than 100W at 4ghz and 1.85v! a lot more! like 140W afaik :)
intel even rates the 3.2ee to almost 100W at stock speed and stock volts.
200W+ for your fans... sick dude! sick.... :D
and ted, even xeons at 1.35v will consume at least 100W under load at 3.6ghz! and xbitlabs did a great job at meassuring the power consumption of current videocards, and the 6800U cards pull around 65W under full load, so a dual xeon rig will pull 300-350W under full load.
i know the fortron psus are great and they are rated very decently, so im not surprised to a see a 30W psu deliver 300-350W under load just fine, but its never going to be less than 300W under load!
and the psu consume power to transofr ac to dc wich means that the psus consumes 100W to deliver 75W to the system, so there seems to be something wrong...
how did you create load on that system? if you run 4 instances of prime+a demanding game like far cry you should be seeing 400W+ power consumption of your psu wich means 300W+ power conrumption for your system :)
Anemone
10-30-2004, 04:13 PM
amps on the 12v rail for the new 600??
Xassius
10-30-2004, 04:36 PM
amps on the 12v rail for the new 600??
40A I believe...
Anemone
10-30-2004, 04:48 PM
ty :)
SoundWave
10-31-2004, 12:23 AM
Nice PSU. I´d like to see a review soon. Get it under the bench :banana:
chunkylover77
11-02-2004, 08:33 AM
Well I got mine yesterday and took my pcpc 510 deluxe out of my case. Hooked this baby up and nothing. The lights go on for like a millisecond and then go off. Anyone have any ideas? Maybe a short but my 510 deluxe was working in the same system no more than 10 minutes before
stealthbomber
11-02-2004, 09:11 AM
How does it compare to the Enermax 660W?
Mariachi
11-02-2004, 09:40 AM
What do you guys think would be better for an A64 SLI system:
OCZ 600W or PCPC510D? OCZ's ratings are much better than PCPC's (700W+ peak, 40A @ 12v @ stock and more - Altough I don't know nothing about OCZ's regulation, ripple and efficiency, Also I don't how these firms rate its PSU's, so ratings can be lower/higher than real). System will be heavily OCed, 2x6800U, 3200-90nm (FX eventually), some drives and PCI cards... Also I would like the PSU to be good enough to power newer and stronger hardware of the next generations, for at least couple of years. OCZ's price is much more value, but on the other hand you got PCPC's reputation ("OCZ IS A REBANDED TAGAN!!!"); warranty is the same in both cases.
Thanks a lot, and sorry for longpost and the thread hijacking...
Regards,
Roy :toast:
stealthbomber
11-02-2004, 09:43 AM
I'd wait until someone can carefully compare these PSU's on a very high loaded setup.
OCZ is rebranded Tagan, where did you get this from? :)
charlie
11-02-2004, 09:49 AM
The 520W is nice..... the 600 will just be amazing
C
SteveOCZ
11-02-2004, 10:36 AM
OCZ's price is much more value, but on the other hand you got PCPC's reputation ("OCZ IS A REBANDED TAGAN!!!"); warranty is the same in both cases.
Our PSU's are not made by Tagan...we have better things under the hood :toast:
chunkylover77
11-02-2004, 10:41 AM
Hey Steve. Would you have an answer to my question about the psu not working for me?
stealthbomber
11-02-2004, 10:41 AM
Well yeah, that's what they all say... :D
SteveOCZ
11-02-2004, 10:47 AM
Hey Steve. Would you have an answer to my question about the psu not working for me?
Ah sorry I didn't see your post. Have you tried jump starting the PSU using the green and black pins on the ATX connector? Pic attached for the pins I'm talking about. Just put a wire between those 2 and see if the PSU starts up. If no then please email me and we will RMA the sucker ASAP
Steve
chunkylover77
11-02-2004, 11:00 AM
Will do thanks. But should I unplug everything from it first or should I try it with it installed in my case
Crankster
11-02-2004, 11:06 AM
Is it zippy/emacs under the hood?
It would be a easy rebrand since they have a 600 W version.
Mariachi
11-02-2004, 11:15 AM
I was joking. I know OCZ's PSU's aren't rebanded Tagan's, but that's what the PC P&C fans say; not that I believe them of course... :p:
chunkylover77, since you got both PSU's, I hope you'll do a review.
That would be awesome... can't wait.
SteveOCZ
11-02-2004, 11:54 AM
Will do thanks. But should I unplug everything from it first or should I try it with it installed in my case
Well disconnect all the motherboard power cables and video card, but you can leave some drives and fans hooked up to make sure there is some load there
SteveOCZ
11-02-2004, 11:59 AM
Is it zippy/emacs under the hood?
It would be a easy rebrand since they have a 600 W version.
Nope.
/side note
We are not trying to go after PC P&C with our PSU's. They are THE PSU guys and they make the top end units. That is not to say the OCZ units aren't great, but when we went into this part of the market the PC P&C area wasn't one we wanted to enter. Sure we could make super expensive units just like theirs, but we know overclockers....we want great stuff, but not for a price that is to crazy. We found the performace/price ratio point we wanted and the Power Streams are what we got :toast:
steve
enzoR
11-02-2004, 12:24 PM
PowerStreams are made by Topower...
ryanpgroovy
11-02-2004, 12:29 PM
Everyone knows that OCZ does not make our own PSUs , We have them made to our specification.... Our features , Specs and Technology are only available from OCZ
The Toppower / OCZ branded PSU available in asia is a result of a licensing contract OCZ has with Toppower and is jointly designed :toast:
What do you guys think would be better for an A64 SLI system:
OCZ 600W or PCPC510D? OCZ's ratings are much better than PCPC's (700W+ peak, 40A @ 12v @ stock and more - Altough I don't know nothing about OCZ's regulation, ripple and efficiency, Also I don't how these firms rate its PSU's, so ratings can be lower/higher than real). System will be heavily OCed, 2x6800U, 3200-90nm (FX eventually), some drives and PCI cards... Also I would like the PSU to be good enough to power newer and stronger hardware of the next generations, for at least couple of years. OCZ's price is much more value, but on the other hand you got PCPC's reputation ("OCZ IS A REBANDED TAGAN!!!"); warranty is the same in both cases.
Thanks a lot, and sorry for longpost and the thread hijacking...
Regards,
Roy :toast:
I'm wondering what PS to use for SLI also. I really don't care about cost, so PCPC is certainly an option, but I do care about how noisy my gaming pc is, and my 520 watt OCZ supply works great and it's quiet. I'm inclined to go for the 600 watt OCZ supply, based on my satisfaction with the 520 watt.
vapourit
11-04-2004, 11:08 AM
I thought OCZ powerstreams were made by Microsoft???
:confused: confused! :confused:
texuspete00
11-04-2004, 11:15 AM
Yeah... definitely confused! :p: People say ToPower thought the specs could be different. Don't know of any hardware made by MS besides input devices like mice and joysticks. Be damn scary if they start.
ryanpgroovy
11-04-2004, 12:28 PM
Microsoft ?
Rancidelephant
11-04-2004, 12:57 PM
Microsoft ?
eh? :stick:
Tagan ?
ryanpgroovy
11-04-2004, 01:02 PM
Apple ?
Rancidelephant
11-04-2004, 01:10 PM
Apple ?
mango?
vapourit
11-04-2004, 01:18 PM
I think that's the sticker I saw on the powersupply, "mango inside"
So it's powered by the citrus power of a fruit?
:confused: Really Confused! :confused:
ryanpgroovy
11-04-2004, 01:45 PM
lol
cetoole
11-04-2004, 04:54 PM
Looks like it is has 2 12v rails, 12v1 at 20 amps and 12v2 at 18 amps. Available at Newegg, looks great, but $200 is a bit much for me. Anyone want to buy one and sell me their 520?
uclajd
11-05-2004, 11:32 PM
In stock at Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-153&depa=0) :toast:
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