Some ATI X700Pro PCI-Express results

[Sheik]

Hi

Seeing as how the X700Pro is still pretty new I thought I show my results with some basic overclocking.

Setup

HIS Excalibur X700Pro PCI-Express @ 465/1050 (default = 425/864) stock cooler
Chaintech V915P + P4 3.2 GHz Prescott LGA 775 @ 3.6 GHz stock vcore
Mushkin BH5 2-2-2-5 @ 225 MHz 1:1 – 2.9 volts

Card is built on 110 nm process and has 120 million transistors and 256 MB GDDR3 - 2.0 ns Samsung chips..

Tests all run with Catalyst 4.11 Beta’s as I was too lazy to change them after running 3DMark05. :(

3DMark05 – 3431
3DMark03 – 8707
3DMark2001 – 21376

[saaya]

wow! is that a retail card? how much did you pay?
that memory oc is amazing! :eek:

and isnt this a x600pro?

x600=9600 pciE in 130nm

x700=half a x800 agp in 110nm

[Geforce4ti4200]

That is a very nice 2001 score, ditto to 2003 and 2005. I didnt know they would have 256 bit versons too! Nice ram overclock, not supprised about the core due to atis yield problems. This should be faster than most 9800xt because of the rams bandwith. I see 9800xt sometimes match or even beat you corewise but I rarely see any do over 800MHz on the ram while yours does 1050MHz!

[Sheik]

Hi saaya

I think the mem can actually go higher as I saw a review today where the Powercolor one did 1100 MHz in a review. :eek: I tried 1100, but I did get a slight artifact so I aborted that run and tried 1050 and it was totally artifact free. I have still to try and find limit between 1050 - 1100 MHz though. I don't seem to be able to crack 470 on the core without small errors. The XT version runs at 475 MHz core so that was my goal.

Yes it is retail. It has just hit our shores here in South Africa and in Rands it is about R2200. I cannot say what that would be in dollars as our stuff always ends up costing much more than the stuff in the States. I'm just reviewing it for a week for one of our local forums.

Geforce4ti4200 the RAM is actually 128 Bit.
Product page is here:
http://www.hisdigital.com/html/product_ov.php?id=128&view=yes

I will push mem a bit more tomorrow and see. Just imagine what this sucker could do on an nForce4 board with a good CPU :D

[saaya]

oh, my bad, the x700s are pciE as well :P

can you check if this is a01 or a02 silicon?

the xts are supposed to be a02 silicon and be clocked at 500core afaik.

[Sheik]

How do I check ? a01 / a02 is the nforce4 mobo's not so ? I don't have :(

This card is so new the ORB does not accept it :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/solo_za/ORB.jpg

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

hmmmm. pretty nice. that 03 score seems pretty low compared with what it got in 05.

[blinky]

dam nice how much is the x700pro gonna cost?

[EQuito]

HIS Excalibur X700Pro PCI-Express @ 465/1050 (default = 425/864)...Are XT's more powerful? cause the Abit Fatal1ty-X700 XT specifications are:

Core : 475MHz
Memory Speed : 1.05GHz
160 million transistors on 0.11 micron
256MB 128-bit quad-channel GDDR3 memory interface

More info here: http://www.fatal1ty.com/fat_store/fatal1ty_x700xt_videocard.aspx

btw: XPCGEAR has an ATI Pro version for $250

http://www.xpcgear.com/atipciex700pro.html

[esoteradactyl]

the xts are supposed to be a02 silicon and be clocked at 500core afaik.

so far all of the ones ive seen are 500/1000 and the PE versions are 520/1120. same as the agp cards.

if you look on newegg some of the cards are listed with gddr3 and others with ddr. the ddr versions cost $100 more and there not the PE.

[Sheik]

Seems to be around $200 mark.
http://www.google.com/froogle?q=ATI+x700pro

That Abit looks good as well. Not 100% sureon all the different cores just yet :confused: Apparently the reference X700Pro core is 420 so at 425 it's actually overclocked if you can call 5 MHz an OC. :p:

that 03 score seems pretty low compared with what it got in 05 I will try some other drivers.

[Sheik]

Well the max I seem to get is 465/1060. CPU can do 232x16=3.712 GHz on stock VCore which is OK and my BH5 in DC with 2.9 volts is doing 232 MHz.

Can only use Catalyst 4.10 and 4.11 beta's. Only ones that recognise X700 series.

Best scores:

3DMark03 = 8745
3DMark2001 = 21923

[saaya]

the nforce4 also has problems with the a01 silicon, thatsbwhy theres a02 silicon, but thats not what i meant, i meant the vicdeocard!

the x700xt cards will be made with a02 silicon wich should run 500mhz stock without any problems, i guess you have a01 since its a pro and not the latest stepping.

Are XT's more powerful? cause the Abit Fatal1ty-X700 XT specifications are:

Core : 475MHz
Memory Speed : 1.05GHz
160 million transistors on 0.11 micron
256MB 128-bit quad-channel GDDR3 memory interface

More info here: http://www.fatal1ty.com/fat_store/fatal1ty_x700xt_videocard.aspx

btw: XPCGEAR has an ATI Pro version for $250

http://www.xpcgear.com/atipciex700pro.html

that info is wrong, the x700 does not have 160 million transistors, it has around 120 million transistors! the x800 cards have 160 million transistors :)

[Holst]

Well the max I seem to get is 465/1060. CPU can do 232x16=3.712 GHz on stock VCore which is OK and my BH5 in DC with 2.9 volts is doing 232 MHz.

Can only use Catalyst 4.10 and 4.11 beta's. Only ones that recognise X700 series.

Best scores:

3DMark03 = 8745
3DMark2001 = 21923

Thats quite impressive.
Is that on your A64 system or still on the P4?

[Beenthere]

The best deal I've seen on the X700 PRO is at New Egg for the Sapphire OEM card @ $202, which I bought. Seems as though NE has jacked the price to $209 now on the Sapphire to push the ATI Retail version at $205. Either is a pretty good deal when you compare the performance and price to a 9800 Pro. Personally I like the cooling approach on the Sapphire better and that's why I bought it. Reports are that the ATI X700 PRO cooling fan is a bit noisy.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&DEPA=1

An extensive review of the ATI video cards here:

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/rv410/

[pik-ard v1.1]

what kind of bundle did you get with the sapphire? i saw conflicting reports on what it was, with newegg vs. sapphire website..

good to know the preformance is greater across the board(all 3 benchmarks) then the equally priced 9800pro 128mb card. ;)

[Geforce4ti4200]

how is the x700pro with its 128 bit ram performing like a 256 bit 9800pro or even xt? major core tweaks? something with the drivers? what if it really had 256 bit, would it be just behind an x800pro then? Is it basically a 128 bit x800pro in a way?

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

how is the x700pro with its 128 bit ram performing like a 256 bit 9800pro or even xt? major core tweaks? something with the drivers? what if it really had 256 bit, would it be just behind an x800pro then? Is it basically a 128 bit x800pro in a way?


because its totally different card. much more effiecent.

[Sheik]

Thats quite impressive.
Is that on your A64 system or still on the P4?

I can only test with a P4 for now as now NF4 board. :mad:
But, can you imagine the 3DMark2001 score with say a 939 3000+/3200+ overclocked on air alone :banana:

[Beenthere]

Actually the X700 PRO has 256 MB not 128 MB. The X700 XT has 128 MB but runs at a higher clock than the PRO or standard X700. (It's a little confusing until you study the specs). See below from the review.

As far as contents the New Egg site shows exactly what comes with the Sapphire OEM card, which is the CD, cable and adapter. No games are included with the OEM card, un-like the Retail ATI X700 PRO version, which has several games.

Vendor ATI
Product Radeon X700 XT 128MB
Chipset ATI Radeon X700 (RV410)
Price $199 MSRP [Check US Prices]

Vendor Sapphire
Product Hybrid Radeon X700 PRO 256MB
Chipset ATI Radeon X700 (RV410)
Price $199 MSRP [Check US Prices]

[pik-ard v1.1]

who said the x700pro was 128mb? and even so, i think there might be a 128mb version, for like $150...

and there are two retail bundles from sapphire, one thats what you got, and one with a whole bunch of cool games... >_>

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

who said the x700pro was 128mb? and even so, i think there might be a 128mb version, for like $150...

and there are two retail bundles from sapphire, one thats what you got, and one with a whole bunch of cool games... >_>

yeah, were were talking about 128bit mem of the x700 and 256bit mem of the 9800

[Beenthere]

My response in regards to the X700PRO having 256 MB was to "Gefrorce4ti4200" who wrote this:

"how is the x700pro with its 128 bit ram performing like a 256 bit 9800pro..."

The X700 PRO has 256 MB, not 128 MB.

The Sapphire ***OEM*** card comes with what I stated. The RETAIL version is the one that includes games.

[Sheik]

:D OK this is all getting a little confusing, but I found this at Neoseeker.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/pcX700pro/

See attachment.

[saaya]

yes, current x700xt cards have only 128mb of memory, but i think sapphire anounced that they will also sell a 256mb version later on :)

[twiggy]

My response in regards to the X700PRO having 256 MB was to "Gefrorce4ti4200" who wrote this:

"how is the x700pro with its 128 bit ram performing like a 256 bit 9800pro..."

The X700 PRO has 256 MB, not 128 MB.

The Sapphire ***OEM*** card comes with what I stated. The RETAIL version is the one that includes games.


G4Ti said 128 bit not 128mb.;)

[pik-ard v1.1]

My response in regards to the X700PRO having 256 MB was to "Gefrorce4ti4200" who wrote this:

"how is the x700pro with its 128 bit ram performing like a 256 bit 9800pro..."

The X700 PRO has 256 MB, not 128 MB.

The Sapphire ***OEM*** card comes with what I stated. The RETAIL version is the one that includes games.
ya, what twiggy said, 128bit ≠ 128mb. that was my point. ;)

and yea, i saw about a x700xt 256mb from sapphire, probably will go for $230-250, but might well be worth it. :D

[MikeMurphy]

Damn I am jelous. Your hitting a good 400 points more on 03 than my x700 @ 500/1000! I have the same 2ns memory and 1000 is a brick wall for me =( Maybe its CPU related but I would think my A64@2.43ghz would be very close.

[MrQ3W]

In answer to G4Ti's question about it's performance, well it has double the amount of pipelines of the 9800 XT and smaller manufacturing process which equates into lower price and higher core clocks. You could say it's a highly updated 9XXX card.

The X8XX cards on the other hand have twice as many pipelines, twice the memory bandwidth and faster clockspeeds thus they are even 2-3X faster than a X700 Pro stock(well, at least on the paper).

No doubt both ATI X700 and NVIDIA 6600 series are great mainstream cards for those who don't have the economy of a small country. ;)

[vapourit]

Damn I am jelous. Your hitting a good 400 points more on 03 than my x700 @ 500/1000! I have the same 2ns memory and 1000 is a brick wall for me =( Maybe its CPU related but I would think my A64@2.43ghz would be very close.

hmmm i would think that a 2.4 A64 would crush a p4@3.6, prolly have higher mem bandwidth too.

[pik-ard v1.1]

MrQ3W, both the x700pro, and the 9800xt have 8 pixel pipelines... the x700pro does have 6 vertex pipes, while the 9800xt has only 4. and the x700pro has a higher memory clock, as well as a slightly higher core clock. also, it has newer technology, and the smaller process.

[althes]

Very nice scores, look foward to seeing it on orb soon.

[Gambit_2K]

yes, current x700xt cards have only 128mb of memory, but i think sapphire anounced that they will also sell a 256mb version later on :)

Here in Sweden the Sapphire X700XT 256 mb has already arrived. It's been out like a month. It's about 270-280$

[MikeMurphy]

Anyone know what kind OC results can be achieved from the x700XT?

I think the GPU was clocked at 475, but if I am already running 500 no problem, then I would be curious to what the get up to!

[Dumo]

Anyone with vmod? since it doesnt have xternal power source fr. psu is it possible? then again its .11nm

[justwOo]

Very interesting, i've been pondering an x700 pro since i first saw them, nice to start seeing some good bench comparisons, would be awesome if there was a volt mod for them

[MikeMurphy]

Could anyone here that broke the 1ghz memory barrier on the 2ns x700 ram pls post your memory timings?

They should be easily available via ATI Tool. I just need the first 16 settings!

It would be a huge help! I have already started to play around with them and can bump my memory up to about 525, however the latencies counter the effect.

[MikeMurphy]

bump for memory timings please! =) thanks!

[MikeMurphy]

Nevermind. I compared the BIOS and it seems to have the same memory timings.

[total_assault]

very nice friend just got x700 iono if he plans on ocing it thou, he cant choose between lga775, or amd 939 so hes not going anywhere soon.

[nCrusader]

I just go a X700Pro:

The memories says:
SAMSUNG 434
K4J55323QF-GC16

Does the "16" stand for 1.6ns?

[Marquzz]

Got a powercolor x700pro here and it does 460/560 24/7 stable. Was also impressed by the memclock, don't know what chip it got sinse they got sinks on them. No problem playing HL2 in 1024 with everything on high. Great bang for the buck.

[cantankerous]

I was thinking of getting this if I cant get an x800xl locally.

[althes]

Think I will get one and do some benching this weekend.
See if I can get a spot on orb.

[vapb400]

nice X700!

[blinky]

I just go a X700Pro:

The memories says:
SAMSUNG 434
K4J55323QF-GC16

Does the "16" stand for 1.6ns?YES, that means 1.6ns mem

now tell us how it clocks :)

[Dumo]

Aquamark3.....x700pro on air at 491core/1002mem(samsung 2.0ns).......62138....http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1896538410
And 6600GT on air at 570core/1140mem....72413...http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=890056250

[perkam]

Nice, if only the X700 had more pipes :( , its amazing core OC would be worth a lot more.

Perkam

[zakelwe]

It's very close between the X700 and 6600GT in performance with the X700 just having the edge I would say.

However, why do they not overclock as well ? They are using the same TSMC 110nm process and have less transistors ( probably ).

6600Gt's are hitting 650-700 and these are hitting 450-550.

Regards

Andy

[jjsscram]

My x700 pro runs at 580 core and 520 memory playing unreal 2004. I am very pleased with this card. I bought it a month ago after i fried my x800 pro. it is pelt cooled thou see the sig.

[zA.Gosu]

Prolly got a more efficient core design. Mhz isnt everything.

[Jessfm]

It's very close between the X700 and 6600GT in performance with the X700 just having the edge I would say.

However, why do they not overclock as well ? They are using the same TSMC 110nm process and have less transistors ( probably ).

6600Gt's are hitting 650-700 and these are hitting 450-550.

Regards

Andy

From what I have seen the 6600GT has an edge over the 700pro for some strange reason.
Hence I chose 6600GT over the 700 when i recently purchased, if XT's had been about then might have been a different story.

[Snowman89]

I can only test with a P4 for now as now NF4 board. :mad:
But, can you imagine the 3DMark2001 score with say a 939 3000+/3200+ overclocked on air alone :banana:
got a 939 3200+ winnie AND dfi sli-d and soon a x700pro in the mail

[nCrusader]

YES, that means 1.6ns mem

now tell us how it clocks :)

I'm awaiting my 630, will arrive next week.

What to expect?

[crotale]

1.6ns = 1250MHz

[Snowman89]

is there any vmodds for x700pro avalibly?
and is the x700pro with ust 128mb ram a x700xt undercover?

[=STE=BloodAngel]

Actually its the 6600GT that beats the X700 series :toast:

3DMark05 4067 :banana: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=617507

Compaired to the 3431 Marks the TS got :p:

[perkam]

Core Clock 612 MHz
Memory Clock 1305 MHz

WTF !!!!! HOW THE HELL DID U MANAGE THAT !!!!!

Perkam

[pik-ard v1.1]

we told ya, these 6600gt's are great cards... and some overclock like a bull on steroids...

mine gets to 589/1289 for 3dmark2k1, his is just a tiny bit better then mine it seems. :D infact... his is the best i've seen on stock air, no vmods... :eek: get that thing under some some waterchilling/vapor change cooling... will probably hit 730/1350 at subzero temps.

[perkam]

we told ya, these 6600gt's are great cards... and some overclock like a bull on steroids...

mine gets to 589/1289 for 3dmark2k1, his is just a tiny bit better then mine it seems. infact... his is the best i've seen on stock air, no vmods... get that thing under some some waterchilling/vapor change cooling... will probably hit 730/1350 at subzero temps.

Crap, if only the X700XT actually came out :(

Perkam

[pik-ard v1.1]

no need... the x800 is SUPOSED to eventually settle at $200... we'll see. >_>

[=STE=BloodAngel]

WTF !!!!! HOW THE HELL DID U MANAGE THAT !!!!!

Perkam

Nice, ain't it :toast: . Next thing I'm going to do is mount a Zalman cooler on it, the flower one full copper. Forgot the name, and than maybe a vmod. Don't have the money atm to get it watercooled or even better, PC cooled :p:

[nCrusader]

YES, that means 1.6ns mem

now tell us how it clocks :)

With a tablefan blowing on the card, no heatsinks or vmods yet:
ATi Tool stopped at 520MHz. Took 4th place in the world in 3DMark05, 3485p.

No time for more testing right now. Dry Ice and vmods coming later.

[nCrusader]

First benching round finished:
3DMark05: 3615p, #2 in the world.
3DMark03: 8974p, #3 in the world.
All this stock air cooled.
Done with 630 @ 3.9GHz, 264FSB 3:4 (DDR704MHz)
X700Pro @ 460/561.

[Snowman89]

with what clocks?

[MikeMurphy]

I am SOOOO upset that I didnt get the 1.6ns ram chips! I got suckered into the 2ns ram chips which still have me in the #1 ORB 2005 spot even with stock cooling. Oddly enough all of the existing XT cards I have seen also have the GC2.0 chips on them.

I just about fell off my chair when you mentioned that you had that memory on your Pro! =(

I emailed the guy who has the #1 spot in 2003 and he said he is now using water cooling. I was able to beat his score on stock cooling however I am having issues with getting an illegal key off of this damn computer so I can submit the scores for 2003. You may be able to hit big gains on the GPU if you improve the cooling since your memory is already incredible! Cya in the #1!

[sevrdhd]

i just picked up a BBA x700 pro 256 from ciruitcity for $199. pretty impressed with it. max core testing on stock heatsink was 535 and the max memory is 540. score around 22k with 3000 winny at 255x9 1/1 3-3-3-8 at 2t on a crap asus sli that wont even load windows with 1t at stock settings. getting a dfi ultra here in a couple of days. well post back with new results.

[nCrusader]

MikeMurphy
The memories wont go much higher without more voltage and heatsinks. I think, eventhough they are 1.6ns chips, they are undervolted to save power and heat. But that will be changed later on.

How on earth did you manage a 522 core clock with stock cooling? 470 failed me in Firefly test. Maybe this lousy heatsink is holding me back..

I got about 23.6k with 450/520 a few days ago, havn't tested 01 with the higher clocks. Tomorrow will be "01" day with improved timings on the RAM and more CPU power. I just applied some AS5 on the core and tightend the heatsink a little harder, who knows...

[MikeMurphy]

I think I got a freak GPU. I can hit 500mhz in any situation, even in a warm room, and have it rock solid. Anything past 500 though seems to get exponentially difficult.

I think the heatsink is holding back. I havent taken mine off yet, but when I feel it, it feels like an incredibly cheap metal of some sort. In addition to this, it covers the ram chips, however does not touch them.

I feel that there are considerable gains to be made with better cooling. I am going to have a hack-job (literally, a hack-saw job) with a full-card heatsink I found on an old apple. This should do the trick.

If your GPU wont go any higher, I suggest you download ATI Tool 0.23 and have a look at the GPU fan control. Set it at 100% all the time and you should gain some clocks!

Let me know if you figure out how to mod the voltages. Some of the 6600GT cards seem to be running the exact same samsung GC20 ram chips as we (well, me) are and hitting 600mhz.

I'm not stopping until I a score to top the 6600GTs, or I fry this one! :banana:

[perry_78]

pikard, getting 700+ on core needs a card that does 650 stock with default VGPU. I'm on 4217 (signature) at 605/1232. Not the most I can press out, but quite frankly I don't have the time now :(

BTW how come you can only get teh X700PRO as BBA on the ati website from the higher end cards? I'd like a X800XL BBA :)

[shuRe]

how come i get 24000 marks in 2003 with my r9800 pro (at greater than XT speeds) when his card should be better?

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2959/24k3dmarks20017hi.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[gocchin]

Finally after playing around with 6600gt's and x850's I have a chance to try out an x700 pro. It's a BBA version with 2ns ram... too bad not 1.6ns but we'll see what I can do with it... will try 03 and 05 tonight... :)

[pik-ard v1.1]

pikard, getting 700+ on core needs a card that does 650 stock with default VGPU. I'm on 4217 (signature) at 605/1232. Not the most I can press out, but quite frankly I don't have the time now :(

BTW how come you can only get teh X700PRO as BBA on the ati website from the higher end cards? I'd like a X800XL BBA :)
getting 700+ on what, water cooled? water chilled? how low of temps will get you a 50mhz gain over stock heatsink and voltage? and do you mean with a volt mod for the 700mhz, or without?

[ISS]

I think I got a freak GPU. I can hit 500mhz in any situation, even in a warm room, and have it rock solid. Anything past 500 though seems to get exponentially difficult.

I think the heatsink is holding back. I havent taken mine off yet, but when I feel it, it feels like an incredibly cheap metal of some sort. In addition to this, it covers the ram chips, however does not touch them.

I feel that there are considerable gains to be made with better cooling. I am going to have a hack-job (literally, a hack-saw job) with a full-card heatsink I found on an old apple. This should do the trick.

If your GPU wont go any higher, I suggest you download ATI Tool 0.23 and have a look at the GPU fan control. Set it at 100% all the time and you should gain some clocks!

Let me know if you figure out how to mod the voltages. Some of the 6600GT cards seem to be running the exact same samsung GC20 ram chips as we (well, me) are and hitting 600mhz.

I'm not stopping until I a score to top the 6600GTs, or I fry this one! :banana:

Cooling don't help much for a X700 Pro. The core isn't even hot. I could even run passive with a kamikaze heatsink mounted onto the card. I did had an Abit X700 Pro 256MB 2 months back. Its using Samsung 1.6ns DDR and X700XT core. Mine had only 1.37V for the core. Thus it didn't push much. Crap out at about 535MHz. Of course, good thing is that the card runs incredibly cool compared to a 6600GT.

As for the RAM, it doesn't matter whether its 2.0ns or 1.6ns. If you check out the spec sheets. 1.6ns is running at higher latencies than 2.0.

[MikeMurphy]

how did you figure it was 1.37v to the core? Did you figure out the memory voltages?

[MikeMurphy]

http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/GraphicsMemory/GDDR3SDRAM/256Mbit/K4J55323QF/K4J55323QF.htm

I dont see how the 1.6ns chips run different timings. Additionally, when I compared the different BIOS' they all had the same memory timings. How did you come up with your information?

[gocchin]

1.6ns are rated for 1200mhz while 2.0ns are rated for 1100mhz I think? So having the 1.6ns ram would allow you to overclock the ram more...

Anyway just did my first run on 3Dmark05 with a bba x700 pro 2ns:

3922

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=637840

If I can figure out how to volt mod this thing... it could at least compete a bit more with the 6600GT's but even clocked to 544/535 it isn't even close to my 6600GT.....

[MikeMurphy]

2ns should be 1ghz I thnk.

You took my record!! <=(

Nice scores. I cant wait to drop this heatsink on there! I will regain #1 by the weekend I hope! :)

[gocchin]

I'm not done yet... just started... ;)

Okay ran some more 05 and 03 now too... stock volts... (someone tell me how to volt mod please!!) and on water (koolance exos)

3dmark05: 4025

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=637892

3dmark03: 10084

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3760724

[MikeMurphy]

Wow, congrats! I dont even think I will be able to come close to touching that.

581mhz from 425mhz....thats an insane overclock.

How are you cooling your memory?

[gocchin]

No memory cooling which is probably why I can't clock the mem that high.... too bad it's not 1.6ns, on my 6600GT I've got the mem up to 1386 (693) I'm sure if I could vmod this card I could reach a 650 core....

[Snowman89]

whats the best air cooling that you can buy in a store?
ex ati silencer?
and not those that you need to drill to get to fit

[MikeMurphy]

The "best" air cooling would probably be a big fat CPU heatsink and some crazy fan that takes up all of your PCI slots and is totally overkill.

[nCrusader]

Very impressive results gocchin!

[STEvil]

Zalman vf700cu

[LightSpeed]

cant u just get a zalman heatpipe and slap on a 120mm fan? or maybe on a Tt Giant?

and any links to the Zalman cooler Stevil? i can only find the AlCu version at newegg..

[Snowman89]

http://www.gtek.se/index.php?mode=item&id=1660&session=8d2962803cd51a2209b375c7b350b1df

dont wanna fix a cpu cooler because my last project with one didnt go so well

[STEvil]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53634
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53966
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48656

[Snowman89]

what drivers are you using?
im wainting for the mail to arrive so i can pick it up :p

[Snowman89]

lol @ 480/472 i got 8k think its throttling?
tops out at 80.5c please post a comparison link to se what the problem can be
edit:my link http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3764812 topped out at 81.8c lol
ran at 475/480 a64 2300mhz

[gocchin]

I think I'll bench 03 and 05 a bit more tonight with both my x700 and x850 then switch over to w2k for 01 action later this weekend... I doubt though that the x700 can break 30k....

[gocchin]

lol @ 480/472 i got 8k think its throttling?
tops out at 80.5c please post a comparison link to se what the problem can be
edit:my link http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3764812 topped out at 81.8c lol
ran at 475/480 a64 2300mhz

81.8C sounds too high... the x700 seems to run pretty cool... did you try reseating the heatsink?

[crotale]

1.6ns are rated for 1200mhz while 2.0ns are rated for 1100mhz I think?

1.6ns = 625MHz (1250 DDR)
2.0ns = 500MHz (1000 DDR)

That is what the ns spec means, but as Fredrik says, the 1.6ns chips on the X700 might have be given too little voltage since they overclock like crap on his board.

BTW, this is how you calculate frequency from refreshrate:
1000 / refresh rate = frequency (in MHz)
1000 / frequency = refresh rate (in ns)

[MikeMurphy]

lol @ 480/472 i got 8k think its throttling?
tops out at 80.5c please post a comparison link to se what the problem can be
edit:my link http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3764812 topped out at 81.8c lol
ran at 475/480 a64 2300mhz

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3763645

I am running pretty cool though.

[gocchin]

1.6ns = 625MHz (1250 DDR)
2.0ns = 500MHz (1000 DDR)

That is what the ns spec means, but as Fredrik says, the 1.6ns chips on the X700 might have be given too little voltage since they overclock like crap on his board.

BTW, this is how you calculate frequency from refreshrate:
1000 / refresh rate = frequency (in MHz)
1000 / frequency = refresh rate (in ns)


Thanks! That helps! (^_^)

So getting my crappy 2ns ram up to 533 with no mods or cooling isn't too bad then!

[MikeMurphy]

533 is damn good. With my table fan blowing I could BARELY hit 220 if I were extremely lucky.

[Snowman89]

this cards memory SUCK! wont even hit 490 maybe 480 think 450 is gamestable :(
will try to fit a ati silencer 4 on it later
edit: you maybe understand why i get these temps... look at the picture and at the HUGE heatsink...
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload4/P3050002.JPG

[$0m#0n#]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3763645

I am running pretty cool though.rofl ya beat me in nature by 7fps, but I beat u in every other test :p:

[gocchin]

I take it back... this card is faster than I thought:

575/550 with stock volts on water!!

3DMark2001: 30177

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8464430

[Snowman89]

I take it back... this card is faster than I thought:

575/550 with stock volts on water!!

3DMark2001: 30177

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8464430
very nice!
what brand?

[Jessfm]

I take it back... this card is faster than I thought:

575/550 with stock volts on water!!

3DMark2001: 30177

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8464430

Good, but it will be more to do with your CPU @ 3.3G .

A 2003 would help to show what the card's increase is.

[gocchin]

Good, but it will be more to do with your CPU @ 3.3G .

A 2003 would help to show what the card's increase is.

Of course! But I was speaking relative to my 6600GT which I voltmodded and also ran my cpu at 3.3ghz. I didn't think the x700 could come close but it does and with more tweaking may take it.

2003 score is in my sig... :)

[Jessfm]

TBH although Im a 6600GT , I do think the 700 was a better value card.

But with the 800Bravo (12pipe) starting to show up, it does leave me woundering where this will put the 700pro or XT(if they ever show up).
The price between a 700pro and 800(0.11 12pipe) is £15.

[MikeMurphy]

Were there any reviews on the x800? I cant seem to find anything on the non-pro.

[Jessfm]

Yeah .

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/powercolor_radeon_x800_bravo/

[perkam]

Is it just me, or ATi's drivers come a long way for Doom 3 support...This was not the scene 3-4 months ago:

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/powercolor_radeon_x800_bravo/images/d3h1024.gif

...with ATI so close to the 6800s in Doom 3 High Quality !!!

Back then you heard things on forums like, "...yeah but ATi gets killed in Doom 3..." which was true but from the looks of that screenshot they've worked out the kinks :up:

Perkam

[MikeMurphy]

When factoring in the 23% graphics overclock the x700 runs the with best of them regardless!