bh5 290+ 2-2-2-5

[kromosto]

my friend arbiter was working on maxing the bh5 now i wanted pics from him about his work but he said he doesnt want to give pics before finishing the job but finally he accepted to give me some pre screenies :D.

ram:kingston hyperx 3500 bh5
cpu:newcastel 3400+
board:eopx 8kda3j rev2.2
bios:7/16
colled:arbiter waterbox (system made by arbiter himself :D)
psu:tt420 3.3 rail moded to 4v

this is a non stable ss he says he can run into windows unstable at 295 and get a screen too

http://mail.baskent.edu.tr/~97131018/arbiter/291ss.jpg

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

http://mail.baskent.edu.tr/~97131018/arbiter/287-pi-b.jpg

this is the screen which is stable at 3dmark2001 and superpi (i will give 3dmark link too but with again tnt :D)

but before 287 link here is a 280 2-2-2-5 link

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8187288

also here is the cooling systems pic :)

http://mail.baskent.edu.tr/~97131018/arbiter/PHOT0022.jpg

i will try to get more pics :D

[Crankster]

That is sweet!

[enzoR]

pics dont work

[kromosto]

thanks

and is pics doesnt work for all?????

[p4z1f1st]

ok, it is really somehow sweet....but on the result you can see, that it isn't that good.....i got with my old 3700EB @ 3-3-2-8-1T @ 260MHz exactly 4000MB/s @ singlechannel.....

with my gskill @ 275MHz @ 2.5-3-3-7-1T i get something about 4200MB/s....

so i suppose, that's 2T CMD, right ?

[kromosto]

yes thats 2t he is also trying to find 1t max too

[TEDY]

what vdimm for 290 ?

[Lithan]

3.85vdimm

[notoriousformula]

Nice Overclock and I like the water chiller.

[TEDY]

i didnt see voltage lol thanks lithan

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

yeah i like the chiller too. but yeah that mem bandwidth is terrible. i got that with my bh-5 @260.

[eva2000]

i think the chipset and extra timings must be pretty loose considering the low bandwidth you get at 290mhz 2-2-2-5

i.e. with 3400+ Newcastle

270mhz 2-2-2-6 on DFI NF3 250Gb
Buffered
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3400_2/Corsair/XMS3500C2/256/1x256/0033026_30811604/LDT_AUTO/9x/270-270-2226-1T-1.55-3.54-1.5-1.8/mem-buff_tweaked.jpg

Unbuffered
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3400_2/Corsair/XMS3500C2/256/1x256/0033026_30811604/LDT_AUTO/9x/270-270-2226-1T-1.55-3.54-1.5-1.8/mem-unbuff_tweaked.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3400_2/Corsair/XMS3500C2/256/1x256/0033026_30811604/LDT_AUTO/9x/270-270-2226-1T-1.55-3.54-1.5-1.8/superpi-1m_twk.jpg

273mhz 2-2-2-6 on Shuttle AN50R rev1.3
Buffered
http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3400_2/6002_MCP650/Kingston/KHX3200K2/1x256/10/LDT2/9x/273-273-2226-1T-1.65-3.7-1.6-1.5_210/mem-buff.jpg

Unbuffered
http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3400_2/6002_MCP650/Kingston/KHX3200K2/1x256/10/LDT2/9x/273-273-2226-1T-1.65-3.7-1.6-1.5_210/mem-unbuff.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/AMD/boards/Shuttle/AN50R/3400_2/6002_MCP650/Kingston/KHX3200K2/1x256/10/LDT2/9x/273-273-2226-1T-1.65-3.7-1.6-1.5_210/superpi-1m.jpg

with 3700+ 1Mb on DFI NF3 250Gb

270mhz 2-2-2-6

Buffered
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.84-3.58-1.6-1.8_8-12-2212-8x-7x_3120/mem-buff.jpg

Unbuffered
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.84-3.58-1.6-1.8_8-12-2212-8x-7x_3120/mem-unbuff.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.84-3.58-1.6-1.8_8-12-2212-8x-7x_3120/superpi-1m_31s.jpg

Also newcastle s754 have high memtest86+ mem bandwidth clock for clock from clawhammer s754s as you can see from 3700+'s unbuffered bandwidth vs 3400+ newcastles

[Ubermann]

Is it just me that dont really see why 2-2-2 is so good ?
I see no good in sandra and no good in SuperPI compared to looser timing +30mhz fsb.
Is the good old 2-2-2 days over on AMD ?

[WesM63]

Someone explain something to me. I hit 35sec superpi 1mb with a Claw 3400+ @ 2.45ghz (10x245 1T, 3700EB 3-3-3-8-11), how is that as fast as a 3400+ NC at 2.587ghz (9x287 2T, BH-5 2-2-2-5-11)?

Does having 1mb L2 and 1T really matter that much?

[eva2000]

Is it just me that dont really see why 2-2-2 is so good ?
I see no good in sandra and no good in SuperPI compared to looser timing +30mhz fsb.
Is the good old 2-2-2 days over on AMD ?
it's good for gaming and 3d stuff too ;)

Gecube 9800Pro Extreme R350 @ 490/402 = 27,131 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8210243)

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/272-272-2226-1T-1.84-3.58-1.6-1.8_8-12-2212-8x-4x_3120/3dmark2001_9800pro_490-402_27131.jpg

WesM63, 1mb cache and 1T is a big performance boost ... i find the 1mb cache on clawhammer 3700+ makes up for the lower bandwidth clock for clock compared with the s754 newcastle cpus.

[Ubermann]

You the fault i burned my ATI9800 pro =)
Was trying to beat your score and upped gpu to 1.95 volt on the last run.
It wasnt good, now its checkerboard =)))

Does tref 15.6us make it more stable ?

[eva2000]

You the fault i burned my ATI9800 pro =)
Was trying to beat your score and upped gpu to 1.95 volt on the last run.
It wasnt good, now its checkerboard =)))

Does tref 15.6us make it more stable ?
ouch sorry to hear about your 9800pro.. reason i never volt mod cards just shove massive cfm air pressure over the heatsink :D

200mhz 15.6 gives me the best performance/memory bandwidth balance... 166mhz 7.8 gives me lowest bandwidth hehe

[notoriousformula]

Someone explain something to me. I hit 35sec superpi 1mb with a Claw 3400+ @ 2.45ghz (10x245 1T, 3700EB 3-3-3-8-11), how is that as fast as a 3400+ NC at 2.587ghz (9x287 2T, BH-5 2-2-2-5-11)?

Does having 1mb L2 and 1T really matter that much?

Yep, I think it really matters.. and i have to O/C 100-200Mhz more everytime you hit a new clock ;)

[saaya]

nice results your friend has there kromosto! :toast:

[reject]

cache isnt really a big deal, even semprons are owning, but command rate makes a big difference

[kromosto]

thanks all :D

eva is your results with 1t or 2t arbiter says he will gonna be stable with 1t at 280-285

[X-GeN]

hi there kromosto ;)

so arbiter finally gave the screenshots. :banana:

I saw the system my self, and it's damn good.

I'm sure arbiter will at least do 280fsb with 1T :toast:

[kromosto]

hi x-gen yes at last i got the pics :D

[WesM63]

Yep, I think it really matters.. and i have to O/C 100-200Mhz more everytime you hit a new clock ;)


Comon notor, Your system has alot more in it, your only using 1.55V! ;)

[saaya]

hey x-gen, welcome to XtremeSystems :toast: :D

[X-GeN]

hey x-gen, welcome to XtremeSystems :toast: :D

thanx there :rocker:

[eva2000]

kromosto, it's all 1T :)

my ram / vdimm is limiting me at 2x 256MB KHX3200K2/512 BH-5

@272mhz 2-2-2-6 1T at 3.58v is benchable
@270mhz 2-2-2-6 1T at 3.58v is alot more stable

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.84-3.58-1.6-1.8_8-12-2212-8x-7x_3120/pifast_44-70.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.84-3.58-1.6-1.8_8-12-2212-8x-7x_3120/superpi-8m.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.84-3.58-1.6-1.8_8-12-2212-8x-7x_3120/superpi-16m.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.84-3.58-1.6-1.8_8-12-2212-8x-7x_3120/pcmark04_9800pro_478-401_5462.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/270-270-2226-1T-1.84-3.58-1.6-1.8_8-12-2212-8x-7x_3120/3dmark05_9800pro_478-401_3154.jpg

[kromosto]

nice scores eva :)

what will arbiter do in 1t he is pushing hard those bh5s :D

[Trixxy]

hi eva, very nice results! :toast:

I've had 2 sticks of 512M Corsair XMS3500 BH5 for almost 2 years now but have never put more than 2.8v through them until yesterday. The most they'd ever done was about 217fsb until I put 3.3v through them and so far they've been stable at about 265fsb 2,2,2,5 - 2t, thanks to this DFI board and it's high vdimm. :)

gonna put some more volts through them and see how high I can get, and try and boost the max 1t speed (only does about 247 atm).

Also, do you have a link for that Smartguardian version you're using? All I managed to find was a SiS version on the ITE site, which doesn't seem to work right.

thanks.

[eva2000]

smartguardian is on DFI cd ;)

[Trixxy]

omg... :stick:

cheers. :D

[blinky]

yah use the 1T or else bandwidth with suck

[arbiter]

today 287mhz 2-2-2-5( 1T) test results are coming...
just wait :toast:

[arbiter]

285 full stabil
http://arbiter.8m.com/oc/285full.jpg

290 %100 not stabil
http://arbiter.8m.com/oc/290ss.jpg

more pic more time :toast:

[kromosto]

you need a better vga arbiter :) nice 1t's

[M.Yazıcıoğlu]

Good job arbiter. :toast:
Bh-5 Forever. 2-2-2-5 290 :slobber:

[arbiter]

i gave the pics because kromosto wanted them but the mission is not finished yet i am trying to find the best volt for best mhz to be accurate thats all for now i will give more pics after finishing :toast:

thanx m.yazıcıoğlu & kromosto :)

[X-GeN]

:slobber:

This was the result I was waiting for :banana4:

Congratulaitons arbiter ;) :toast:

[notoriousformula]

Nice job Arbiter :toast:

[Babudil]

nice job Arbiter Congratulations. :banana4: :banana4:

[Shroomalistic]

damn nice, for me anything over 3.65 volts to the ram and the board wont flip over. The ram can hang with that but the board wont, Ive tried with ddr booster and from bios.

[Ubermann]

Clawhammer ?

[G H Z]

damn nice, for me anything over 3.65 volts to the ram and the board wont flip over. The ram can hang with that but the board wont, Ive tried with ddr booster and from bios.

You need to boot @ 3.5v, then dial up the booster to your running voltages before windows loads......it's easier if you have two partitions so the OS gives you time. Running a single OS wont give you time unless you made a fake bootloader:D

[Shroomalistic]

Im not feelin you there, i boosted the voltage in windows but I restart at 3.72v I have no way of telling the voltage during the windows loading time.

[G H Z]

Uh, just look at the voltage on the booster display. You need to drop to 3.5 on DFI or you wont be able to boot. 3.5 on booster display= 3.65 in SmartGuardian......at least for me;)

[Shroomalistic]

Ok, ill have to stick the booster back in then.

[G H Z]

Lol are you tellin me you get 3.72vdimm without booster? Where is you 3.3 at for that?

[Shroomalistic]

3.87v

[Onepagebook]

awsome fsb@BH-5

[reject]

oh i want some 2-2-2 :( i hate 3-4-4

[Susquehannock]

291fsb .......... Very nice! :bows: