Swiftech or DangerDen pelt setup?

[eshbach]

looking to add some pelts to my setup, which is basically just an eheim 1048 and a '77 bonneville core...

anyway, i was wondering if the swiftech or danger den preconfigured pelt/blocks are good?

on the cpu and gpu, which would be the best? any chance of an 80w for the gpu running on the antec true 480w i have? i have no GPU waterblock right now and i would like to have something on there until i can afford a new powersupply and cpu TEC, so i was thinking the maz4 with pelt, if it does in fact work without the TEC on or if the TEC would not kill my PS.

Also, is the included insulation with these good enough?

[htkm1]

The 480W PSU can handle the 80W pelt. The main thing is which one you want to get. I have tried both. There are a few things you'll need to know to decide which your gonna get. I'll start with

Swiftech:
- The Pelt is directly cooled by water. Which means you cannot use it as a normal Gpu block.
- It will take up 2 PCI slots.
- You can buy Adaptors to change/up-grade for an ATI 98 Pro to a nVidia 68. Might not be able to fot TEC version block. Pls check.
- The middle of the pelt may not be in good contect with the cold plate due the pelt being cooled directly with water.
- Additional cost for 1/2" Brabs if you don't want to use the tubes provided.

DD Maze4:
- Pelt is sandwitched between 2 copper plates therefore has good contect.
- Comes with 1/2" brabs.
- Takes 3 PCI slots.
- Sold build.
- You can remove the cold plate and pelt, then use it like a normal Gpu block. But Ait might have problem though.
- There is no Adaptor if you want to up-grade to a FX68 card. You'll need to buy a New Gpu block. Or DIY.
- After installation, it's quite bulky on bothsides of the Graphic card.

Hope this helps. Both are good. it's just a matter of perference.

[eshbach]

The 480W PSU can handle the 80W pelt. The main thing is which one you want to get. I have tried both. There are a few things you'll need to know to decide which your gonna get. I'll start with

Swiftech:
- The Pelt is directly cooled by water. Which means you cannot use it as a normal Gpu block.
- It will take up 2 PCI slots.
- You can buy Adaptors to change/up-grade for an ATI 98 Pro to a nVidia 68. Might not be able to fot TEC version block. Pls check.
- The middle of the pelt may not be in good contect with the cold plate due the pelt being cooled directly with water.
- Additional cost for 1/2" Brabs if you don't want to use the tubes provided.

DD Maze4:
- Pelt is sandwitched between 2 copper plates therefore has good contect.
- Comes with 1/2" brabs.
- Takes 3 PCI slots.
- Sold build.
- You can remove the cold plate and pelt, then use it like a normal Gpu block. But Ait might have problem though.
- There is no Adaptor if you want to up-grade to a FX68 card. You'll need to buy a New Gpu block. Or DIY.
- After installation, it's quite bulky on bothsides of the Graphic card.

Hope this helps. Both are good. it's just a matter of perference.

ok, thanks for the info... i'm pretty content with my XT-PE right now, but if SLI turns out to be cool, i would consider switching... but then again, who knows if these pelts would even fit?

any idea if the swiftech and DD cpu pelt/blocks are decent?

[afireinside]

3 PCI slots? Maybe on some boards but I only lose 1 on my Infinity :P

[saaya]

i would get a bigger tec for an x800xt-pe! especially if you want to mod and overvolt it!

and yeah, the mcw50-t is def the better choice :)

[eshbach]

i would get a bigger tec for an x800xt-pe! especially if you want to mod and overvolt it!

and yeah, the mcw50-t is def the better choice :)

well i've already done the vcore mod with my VGA silencer on it and it's running about 630/650... would the pelt really even be much of an improvement?

[saaya]

what are your load temps?

an mcw50-t with a 227W tec and a dd dual heatercore should get you -15°C load temps... compare that with your current temps and decide for yourself how much you think it will oc higher. sounds to me like it might hit 700 with that cooling, but i really dont know how thnew cards react to low temps...

mcw50-t 50$ (sell the tec=40$)
227W tec 40$
dd dual heatercore 35$
pump 50$

its quite some money... and thats still without a psu... i guess you have one powerfull enough to run that tec laying around knowing you ;) so i didnt include it hehe :D

well decide for yourself. thats 150$+ for probably around 70mhz gpu clocks and probably higher memory clocks as well as the coolness of a 227W tec will def find its way into the pcb and even to the memory chips :)

thats a lot of money... but then again it will be good for at least one more generation of videocards, probably two or 3 and will let you reach great ocs on all of them...

whether thats worth it to you or not is your decision :D

i hope i could help you. if you have more questions just let me know :toast:
and if you have questions about what pump etc check out the watercooling section, i stickied a thread dedicated to pumps.

[texuspete00]

Saaya.... you admitted yourself you cant seem to find the 40mm TEC's of such strength the other day... How is he going to fit a 50mm TEC in the MCW-50T?.... If it cools the hotside directly, I'm imagining its isnt mod friendly for bigger TEC's.

[saaya]

when i posted this (last week) i didnt know there are no more high watt 40mm tecs at all...
or else i obviously wouldnt have suggested this to him, would i? :P

but there are still 40mm 110W tecs, right? hmmm that should be enough for an oced x800xt-pe... its not ideal, but it should be fine even for an overvolted oced card :)

[eshbach]

it doesn't really matter, i decided to just put a pelt on teh CPU and wait until SLI gets here, then probalby sell my PE and buy a couple of 6800's and whatever blocks i need for them.

thanks anyway though :)

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

i would have to say get the DD and get a 172w 40x40mm tec. thats my plan.

[saaya]

hmmmm ehsbach, you could use your pe to chill the water you cool the 6800s in sli with :D

each of them (6800U gpu) produces 60W of heat, then for sli thats 120W :D
if you oc it it might be 70W per gpu, thats still acceptable 140W.

how much can the pe handle? 200W max, right?

and as blocks i would recommend a pair of maze4 or silverprop fusions :)

[eshbach]

hmmmm ehsbach, you could use your pe to chill the water you cool the 6800s in sli with :D

each of them (6800U gpu) produces 60W of heat, then for sli thats 120W :D
if you oc it it might be 70W per gpu, thats still acceptable 140W.

how much can the pe handle? 200W max, right?

and as blocks i would recommend a pair of maze4 or silverprop fusions :)

What do you mean by my PE? i'm confused. :confused:

[saaya]

ohhhhh LOL i thougt you meant your vapochill pe and not your x800xt-pe :lol:

[eshbach]

ohhhhh LOL i thougt you meant your vapochill pe and not your x800xt-pe :lol:

haha, no, no vapochill here... something about rules in the dorm something something... :(

that's why i'm doing pelts.

[saaya]

they dont let you run a compressor? what if you claim its an ac unit? :D

[MaxxxRacer]

Saaya i dont think they would fall for that.

And saaya, the swifty TEC gpu cooler is NOT upgradable. you cannot remove the TEC on it without destroying the block. Thats the way its designed. So if you want to get a stronger tec you would have to go with the maze4.

[eshbach]

they dont let you run a compressor? what if you claim its an ac unit? :D

even my minifridge is a peltier...

anyway, this stuff should be here soon.... i'm experimenting a little and bought an aspire concord 500w PSU (34 Amps 12v rail) to try it with. it was only $55 so if it blows up it's no big loss.

[Skip]

can you change out the pelts on the swiftech model? danger den sells 172 watter 40x40 pelts, and if i could change out the pelt on a swiffy i would get one of those.

[noskill]

can you change out the pelts on the swiftech model? danger den sells 172 watter 40x40 pelts, and if i could change out the pelt on a swiffy i would get one of those.

Yes you can do that.

[afireinside]

haha, no, no vapochill here... something about rules in the dorm something something... :(

that's why i'm doing pelts.

How would THEY know what a vapochill is when its in a box and you cant see it? :stick:

[eshbach]

How would THEY know what a vapochill is when its in a box and you cant see it? :stick:

hehe, i threw caution to the wind and have a pc ice cascade coming ;)