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chilly1
10-17-2004, 11:50 AM
It's time I built a few cascades for the european power schema.
This will be the first and will go to a member in Denmark and the nex to Italy
THese are based on the Danfoss sc15 frame with just over 15 CC displament rated at about 1/2 hp the extra displacment will compensate for the lower reveloutions per sec. over my sc12 series based cascades. And there is room to OC these with the use of a VFD (variable frequency drive) to increase capacity.

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/1.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/2.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/3.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/4.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/5.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/6.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/7.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/8.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/9.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/10.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/11.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/12.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/13.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/14.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/15.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/16.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/17.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/18.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/19.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/21.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/22.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/23.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/24.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/25.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/26.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/27.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/28.jpg

jan
10-17-2004, 12:15 PM
are you going to use the small condenser instead of an aircoil in front of the oilseperator?

chilly1
10-17-2004, 12:23 PM
The small condenser will cool the superheaed gas and oil mist before the oil seperator.

detonator
10-17-2004, 01:04 PM
And the italian cascade will be duall head;) :toast:

gkiing
10-17-2004, 03:29 PM
Is it going to you detonator? I remember you had a thread about wanting a dually cascade

BuLkHy
10-17-2004, 04:01 PM
awww...i want one....

PnoT
10-17-2004, 04:20 PM
-100 C :slobber:

HawainPanda
10-17-2004, 04:28 PM
naruto rocks! :D

nice stuff chilly1

Arnar
10-17-2004, 06:25 PM
wow.. real nice..

What are you charging for a cascade that can do about -100°c ?

bh2k
10-17-2004, 06:31 PM
usually r507/r1150

Arnar
10-17-2004, 06:35 PM
Sorry for the bad english, but I was curius of what a cascade that can do about -100°c would cost from him.

And btw.

Going from -50°c to -100°c on the cpu, does it make much difference?
Over 100mhz?

craig588
10-17-2004, 06:43 PM
I belive its usually around 1000$. PM him if you want a serious quote.

chilly1
10-17-2004, 07:21 PM
Actually we cannot discuss prices here, a pm is the the proper way.

HawainPanda
10-17-2004, 08:30 PM
Yeah there?s a huge diff, if you have a good chip, you can get a 300-400mhz increase, just look at what you can get with ln2!

JSU
10-17-2004, 10:39 PM
are you going to use 402a in the low stage???

tictac
10-17-2004, 11:18 PM
yes we use 220V-240V 50/60 hz power supply here in Indonesia :)

chilly1
10-17-2004, 11:18 PM
I have it in the three stage now.

BuLkHy
10-18-2004, 12:31 AM
3 stage? ..pic pic picsss

detonator
10-18-2004, 01:06 AM
I belive its usually around 1000$. PM him if you want a serious quote.
I think you are pretty far from the real price...
with 1000$ you can buy a vapochill or a mac2 but not a cascade.

detonator
10-18-2004, 01:12 AM
Is it going to you detonator? I remember you had a thread about wanting a dually cascade
Yes is time for Italian OC to play with the first Cascade,will be fun;)

kayl
10-18-2004, 01:43 AM
:toast: :toast: overcloking the compressors
way to go, chilly ya running out of things to go faster heee

Malachia
10-18-2004, 12:33 PM
It's time I built a few cascades for the european power schema.
This will be the first and will go to a member in Denmark and the nex to Italy
THese are based on the Danfoss sc15 frame with just over 15 CC displament rated at about 1/2 hp the extra displacment will compensate for the lower reveloutions per sec. over my sc12 series based cascades. And there is room to OC these with the use of a VFD (variable frequency drive) to increase capacity. (more pics when th 3ebuild starts next weekend)

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/1.jpg



i know who is my rich connational......oh my god the worst hands for a cascade asd


muahahahahaha sei tu xtasy o come cazz sei registrato su hw???asd...

SlackeR
10-18-2004, 03:17 PM
chilly can you reveal the nick of the danish guy??
this is sure interesting :)

blinky
10-18-2004, 06:19 PM
chilly can you reveal the nick of the danish guy??
this is sure interesting :)probably the guys who have the #3 spot on the 01 ORB

bachus_anonym
10-18-2004, 06:49 PM
chilly can you reveal the nick of the danish guy??
this is sure interesting :)
i hope that i'm not breaking any rules here but i think we should look forward to some crazy results from ********* ;) oopps, i hope it was not a secret :)

BTW, i think i should also start saving money for some sub-zero action :) i hope chilly1 won't put me on a black list after that "leak"....

gkiing
10-18-2004, 07:43 PM
I dont know why theyd have any reason to hide their nick but I understand why chilly1 keeps prices in pm's.

chilly1
10-18-2004, 08:50 PM
Actually I don't mention anyone who is purchasing a rig only pics and a description so all can follow, anyone who wishes can speak up but that is a privite decision. As to pricing it belongs in the for sale forum as for custom rige each rig is built to the customers requests and pricing is not possiable I do have basic assembly pricing and if you pm me I will quote it.

gkiing
10-18-2004, 09:25 PM
:toast: Yeah i like the suspence watching it get built

chilly1
10-24-2004, 02:25 AM
UPDATE!!!!! 70% complete...

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/2.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/3.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/4.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/5.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/6.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/7.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/8.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/9.jpg

JohnFish
10-24-2004, 03:32 AM
:eek: :eek: amazing work as always chilly. :D :D

cold_ice
10-24-2004, 03:52 AM
Awesome work :eek:!
If I wouldn't have so much fun with building my own rigs, I would defenitely buy one

JacobHansen
10-24-2004, 04:01 AM
Nice work chilly. As allways. :toast:

Unseen
10-24-2004, 06:29 AM
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

chilly1
10-26-2004, 12:00 AM
Update!!! unit under 200psi test for 24 hours Here is the pics of theh insulated unit.

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/10.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/11.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/12.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/13.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/14.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/15.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/16.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/17.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/18.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/19.jpg

Unseen
10-26-2004, 03:00 AM
u r the absolute cascade maker!

JSU
10-26-2004, 06:14 AM
you are using the a-2 for an evap?

chilly1
10-26-2004, 08:16 AM
Yes the A2 is the metering device for the evaporator. The condenser uses the parker C-AA-SZ TXV with a .0625 by 2 inch oriface. Thie oriface lengthens the time needed for restart after shut down but gives me better load control and raises teh temperature of teh TXV while lowering the temp of the condenser.

chilly1
10-29-2004, 11:11 PM
And this is the scetch of the case... Wrap printed on vinyl and will be done on Monday...

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/21.jpg

bxa121
10-30-2004, 04:46 AM
hey there guys,
i just wanted to know why the use of phase change doesnt involve the use of Ln2?.. or at least the use of liquid nitro as a refridgerant?.

im a total noob, so me sorry if the answer is obvious.. :stick:

ive read a bit and followed the concept of phase change for some time.. and never reflected upon ln2 as a viable 24/7 concept.. but can it be 24/7?

thanks
:am:

SlackeR
10-30-2004, 05:39 AM
because LN2 requires too low temperatures to be able to condense at reasonable pressures.
It could eventually be used in a good 4th stage or at 5th stage.

and no, it is not useful 24/7, you have to top up the container regularly.
but cascades are extremely expensive to run 24/7 ;)

bxa121
10-30-2004, 06:44 AM
but with the right pressures any gas becomes a liquid.. doesnt it? so what pressures would be necessary?

quintus
10-30-2004, 07:15 AM
Nice work cilly1, super cool lookin, i saw something on an other tread looking the same with that case(black with the text''xtreme frostbyte...frostbyte 1 i guess) will it look the same this 1 in the end?
I'll be d@mn if i dont move to Italia for this winter :D :banana4:

Hi, to all of ya me new here hopin to stay long and with nice results too...
Monday i take my first fridge for destroing hahhaha o shlt i mean creation of something chiller or maybe hommieprommie. will be chiller eazyer?
I AM A KNOOB!!! Sorry for going a bit out of subject... my english too :p:

JohnFish
10-30-2004, 07:18 AM
Welcome to the xtreme quintus. Stay around! :toast:

chilly1
10-30-2004, 09:36 PM
hey there guys,
i just wanted to know why the use of phase change doesnt involve the use of Ln2?.. or at least the use of liquid nitro as a refridgerant?.

im a total noob, so me sorry if the answer is obvious.. :stick:

ive read a bit and followed the concept of phase change for some time.. and never reflected upon ln2 as a viable 24/7 concept.. but can it be 24/7?

thanks
:am:
Actually we are working on a real out there system using a very large supply of Ln2 for a consistant supply and refillable containers with cryo pumps and enviromental chambers for 24/7 use at -178C and lower temperatures but the cost to operate would be huge.. I mean 100 to 200 US per 24 hours...

gkiing
10-31-2004, 01:44 AM
Amazing, thats the cleanest cascade i've seen. Your work is always above and beyond.

reject
10-31-2004, 02:51 AM
that is cleaner than a prebuilt unit, and it works better too!

detonator
11-01-2004, 07:46 AM
:eek: THAT IS CLASS M8 ;)

chilly1
11-02-2004, 01:31 AM
And the -100C club welcomes it's newest member #### Case tomorrow and the final pics....

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/22.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/23.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/24.jpg

bachus_anonym
11-02-2004, 02:24 AM
this is just one sweet looking cascade... piece of art one might say... can't wait to to what it's capable of and looking forward to #### :) OCing results ...

chilly1
11-09-2004, 10:47 PM
Shipping tomorrow!

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/25.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/26.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/27.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Gomerpyle/28.jpg

k|ngp|n
11-10-2004, 06:40 AM
Looking nice reggie ;)

quintus
11-10-2004, 07:50 AM
looks super good! like u make those every day!!!lol
about the insulation, izolation of the hx what u use? polyurethaan spray and how big is that box for it is like 20cm inst too big? just friendly asking!! :D

Mini
12-02-2004, 01:42 AM
Actually we are working on a real out there system using a very large supply of Ln2 for a consistant supply and refillable containers with cryo pumps and enviromental chambers for 24/7 use at -178C and lower temperatures but the cost to operate would be huge.. I mean 100 to 200 US per 24 hours...

Darn... Are you working on building one for computer use? Or for something else? Hehe... Sorry if im asking the obvious...

Looks very good ;) Cant wait to see what the guys can do with it ;)

chilly1
12-02-2004, 01:59 AM
Yes 24/7 Ln2

gkiing
12-02-2004, 07:02 PM
Yes 24/7 Ln2

In the long run wouldnt it be cheaper to make a cascade that could use nitrogen as its lowest stage?

kayl
12-02-2004, 07:16 PM
that is looking so good chilly1.
that is so much insulation on suction line it not funny.
well done.

gkiing
12-02-2004, 10:01 PM
That cascade is just like the other one he built, and its a work of art too. Their so professionally done and the case looks like it came off a production line, but with an artists touch.

masterofpuppets
12-04-2004, 05:01 AM
Chilly1, you are truly a cascade god. Hopefully I will be building cascades one day.

sjmX`
12-05-2004, 01:44 PM
DIBS ON BEING CHILLY1's BEST MATE!!