Ram with Samsung TCCD - Listing

[WiCKeD]

Sorry guys, but do the OCZ 4200EL use selected TCCD + BrainPower PCB? :confused:
Which chip & pcb use the OCZ 4000EL Rev2? They are like OCZ 3200 EL Rev2? ;)
Thanks a lot all ;).
Regards :toast: .
The answer to your questions are yes and probably TCCD/BP.

Edit: Nevermind see below. I was thinking of the PEs. ;)

[MightyOne]

Actually, the PC4200EL non-Platinum and PC4000EL Rev.2 both use Hynix chips, not TCCD ...

The chips on PC4000EL Rev.2 are Hynix DT-D5's, but which chips exactly the PC4200EL (again, non-Platinum!) uses, I don't know :confused:

edit: probably the Hynix Rev. B chips, but it's just a guess.

[Susquehannock]

Actually, the PC4200EL non-Platinum and PC4000EL Rev.2 both use Hynix chips, not TCCD ...

The chips on PC4000EL Rev.2 are Hynix DT-D5's, but which chips exactly the PC4200EL (again, non-Platinum!) uses, I don't know :confused:

edit: probably the Hynix Rev. B chips, but it's just a guess.

You are right of course. The OCZ pc3200 & 3700 EL Platinum
should be newer TCCD on BP, or am I mistaken?

[Juspriss]

Mhmmm... ok tnx all ;).

So the 3700EL ( OCZ4661024ELDCPE-K ? ) use Selected TCCD + BP PCB & 3200EL Rev2 ( OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K ? ) use TCCD + BP PCB :D
I have understand it right? :banana:
So if i buy 3700 i will have better performace? ( teory ) :cool:

Regards & thx a lot :toast: .

[xpr-k]

http://www.oc-wear.de/pd2053558574.htm?categoryId=26

http://www.oc-wear.de/shippingcosts.htm

:) Maybe it is cheap for u, dunno the prices in UK!

Thats are OCZ TCCD but untested from them and without Heatspreaders!
oc-wear.de is the officiall distri. in germany for OCZ!


So does that means these are the ones that like volts ?
I'm on a DFI LP rev B right now and planning to upgrade to A64 by the summer time . I need a good 1 gig set that will also work good to great in my A64 setup so when i heard about Voltloving TCCD ive been trying to find out which brand/type to buy . Ive read through most of this thread by now but i'm still confused . My candidates , judging from price/availability :

-1Gb DDR PC3200 Patriot XBLK
-G-Skill PC4400 2.5-3-3-7 2X512MB (LE version)
-Muskin special 222 rev2
-Maybe the ones you linked

Sadly i'm a bit saturated with info after reading both this thread and the TCCD voltage secret one from ryan . Which one of these like the juice?

[funkflix]

The Geil Ultra-X like Voltage! Dunno about the Oc-Wear/TCCD-Sticks!

[xpr-k]

Im very much leaning towards the G.skill after reading the last few pages of this thread . A shop nearby is selling em for 280/gig (LE) and they will receive their first batch (so it'll be a new revision for sure) 3rd of january about the same time they will get the OCZ modstream in stock . Those 2 combined will make some happy happy upgrade feelings =] . I'll just have to wait and see if they like volts and if they dont i'll just have to upgrade to 939 ;) .

or do i get the patriot XBL series for 260 and buy alot of booze with the difference in case they sucl , choices choices :|

[sin0822]

corsair 3200xl rev. 1.2 uses pbc brainpower tccd, i have this stuff its awsome. I heard rev. 1.1 didnt do well.

[sr4470]

What about my RAM? I havent taken off the heatspreaders to check, but this talk has me wondering if its TCCD, and what PCB

[W4nK5ta]

corsair 3200xl rev. 1.2 uses pbc brainpower tccd, i have this stuff its awsome. I heard rev. 1.1 didnt do well.

yep, what about the new corsair stuff? the xlpt(white heatspreaders) is brainpower tccd, too. has somebody tested these sticks? they are very cheap here in germany... ~ 235 euros. :eek:

[Susquehannock]

>>>>>>>>..

-1Gb DDR PC3200 Patriot XBLK
-G-Skill PC4400 2.5-3-3-7 2X512MB (LE version)
-Muskin special 222 rev2
-Maybe the ones you linked

Sadly i'm a bit saturated with info after reading both this thread and the TCCD voltage secret one from ryan . Which one of these like the juice?

I'd choose either the Gskill "E" or the Patriot XBLK. Both are the newer TCCD
on Brainpower PCB.

Gskill "E" - if you want top performance ...
Patriot XBLK - if you want to save some money ...

Depends how much you are willing to pay for few extra Mhz.

[shimo]

yep, what about the new corsair stuff? the xlpt(white heatspreaders) is brainpower tccd, too. has somebody tested these sticks? they are very cheap here in germany... ~ 235 euros. :eek:

Corsair TwinX1024-3200XLPT rev 1.2: 277 MHz, 2.5-3-3-6 @ 2.85V on K8T800 PRO(http://www.computergames.ro/forum/showpost.php?p=34666954&postcount=44) . I talk to this guy , and he will send them to me afther the new year , to test them on my DFI NF3(i think i will keep them, no way to find OCZ-VX around here).

[MaRtIe]

i have corsair twinX pc3200XLpt rev 1.2 currently at 300mhz 2.5-3-3-5

i dought its smemtest stable but its what i use for benches

http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/MaRtIe/bah.JPG

id bet it fails memtest on first run :p:

2.85V 2T 2.5-3-3-5

[Susquehannock]

310mhz in dual channel is not too bad. I'd be very interested in knowing
what it runs stable.

Here is a thread with the Gskill reaching 360fsb dual channel:
http://www.coolaler.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=34268 (Taiwan - Simplified Chinese)

And here is single 256mb Gskill running 363fsb:
http://www.coolaler.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=33542 (Taiwan - Simplified Chinese)

Both above at 2.85v & Memtest stable. :bows:

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

I also have the TwinX PC3200XLPT and they are good mem, but I can not put up such results as the other guys with this mem. Because my Asus A8V doesn´t like this mem and therefore I can not get by 245MHz. Relaxing the timings doesn´t matter. Relaxing the timings to eg. 2.5-4-4-10 or 3-4-4-10, will NOT help 1 singe MHz :( And I know that my board will do 270htt with some OCZ EB. I just hope that Asus will fix this in a future bios, cause beside the bad OC with my TCCD mem, it is a nice board!

[Zeus]

i have corsair twinX pc3200XLpt rev 1.2 currently at 300mhz 2.5-3-3-5

i dought its smemtest stable but its what i use for benches

http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/MaRtIe/bah.JPG

id bet it fails memtest on first run :p:

2.85V 2T 2.5-3-3-5

Amazing there's still so many people not knowing or being ignorant about half-multipliers with A64 systems.

So for the last time: your mem isn't running 310MHz!! :stick:
It's doing 2642/9=293,5MHz. (wanna know y? use search function ;) )

Nice but far from impressive. :(

[stestan]

:ROTF: @ The above

I just got 2x512mb of the corsair xlpt and it's doing 225x12 (1-1) 5-2-2-2 @ 2.7v :banana3: :bananal: :eleph:

EDIT ** You know I going higher :slapass: :bounce:

Report back when satisfied :toast:

[MaRtIe]

ummm yes i do know about the .5 multiplier bug... wanna see it doing a 9x? 8X?

[funkflix]

ummm yes i do know about the .5 multiplier bug... wanna see it doing a 9x? 8X?

Yeah, do it! :)

[MaRtIe]

alright man. here it goes... wish me luck!!

[MaRtIe]

bah failed super pi, the .5 multi must have gave it a nice drop in mhz..
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/upload/userfiles/MaRtIe/failed....JPG

hmmm looks like its time to losen those up. any ideas what ime looking at with around 2-2-2-5?

[skate2snow]

In possible TCCD's, Corsair XMS PC3200C@ Rev4.2 are NOT TCCD's, they are TCC5, I have three pairs and all of them are TCC5's. TCC5 are nearly as good (2.5-3-3-7, 275MHz 2.95V)

[MaRtIe]

yea i have the rev 1.2, the tccd/BP

[MaRtIe]

looks like the rev you have them will all be non tccd.. so its only rev 1,2 3200XL that are?

[skate2snow]

They arent XL, they are C2....

[stestan]

Morning :)

are these 2x512mb >

corsair CMX512-3200xlpt
Xms3208v1.2
0447071-1

PCB says BP MLL E186401

Doing 250 5-3-3-2 @ 2.8v in p4 rig so i guess maybe they are :toast:

[MaRtIe]

thats what i have, 2x256mb, and those model numbers.. id say yes they are..

[S!1v3rB@cK_Dk]

Morning :)

are these 2x512mb >

corsair CMX512-3200xlpt
Xms3208v1.2
0447071-1

PCB says BP MLL E186401

Doing 250 5-3-3-2 @ 2.8v in p4 rig so i guess maybe they are :toast:

Same mem as I have, its TCCD chips build on Brainpower PCB :rolleyes:
Lets see some results ;)

[stestan]

I am having same problems as you with my ATHLON64 setup

Just been playing and cant get over 240fsb on my gigabyte mobo :stick:

Does 235x10 (ddr470) 2.6v and 6-2-3-2 but cant touch 240x10 even with 8-4-4-2.5/3:confused: 1x512 or 2x512

And if i try 2.8v i just get bsods :stick:

Thing is i can run 1x256mb ch5 @ 262x11 @ 1-1 with 3.8v so mobo dont like 512mb stix i guess

On my p4 its @ ddr500 5-3-3-2 @ 2.8v gonna try more on the p4 :toast:

[daysleeper]

Twinmos twister 2 x 512m dual channel with tccd-chips.I tested them with cas 2 and tightened timings with a64tweaker and vmem max from bios (2,85V).DDR420 memtest ok,DDR440 memtest error...i will test DDR430 later and also with cas2,5 if i can hit ovet DDR500.....damn these chips are very hot :banana:

[Juspriss]

Wow 310! Great Job! :slobber:

What do you think is better? OCZ 3200 Rev2, Vitesta 600 or Geil UltraX 3200? ( 2x512 ) :D

Thx all & regards :toast:

[xpr-k]

Same mem as I have, its TCCD chips build on Brainpower PCB :rolleyes:
Lets see some results ;)


ordered some myself @ 235 euro inc shipment , i'll post my results when i get em . Mind you i'm on nforce² so it might not be the kind of results your interested in =] . God i hope i'm getting a pair of voltloving puppies.

[Zueda]

Anyone know if the two PQI Turbo 3200 revisions DPU and DBU use the same revision of BP PCB? It seems the platinums are a bit cheaper but is that just because the black may appear more uber to some ppl? :confused:

[Mastakilla]

hi all

did anyone try one of the following types of memory allready?

512MB x 2 (1GB) PC3200 DDR, CL2.5 (Corsair, TWINX1024-4400C25PT) <-- 256 euro
or
512MB x 2 (1GB) PC3200 DDR, CL2.5 (Corsair, TWINX1024-4400C25) <-- 258 euro

this is supposed to be very good tccd brainpower pcb ram too...

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2312

a very nice review from anand

offcourse its very possible anand got handpicked ram,
so i was wondering if others have this ram and what u think about it?

atm im doubting between these ram:
512MB x 2 (1GB) PC3200 DDR, CL2.5 (Corsair, TWINX1024-4400C25PT) --> 256 euro
2x512MB DDR RAM Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPT --> 237 euro
2x512MB DDR RAM G.Skill PC4400@2.5-4-4 Extreme Series Dual Channel --> 247 euro
2x512MB DDR RAM GeIL Ultra X GLX1GB3200DC --> 249 euro
2x512MB DDR RAM Kingston HyperX KHX3200UL --> 220 euro

all these should be tccd
i dont want other gskill, only their cheapest fits in my budget, rest is too expensive (270,280,300 euro)

i wanted to use it with a winchester and an nforce 4 ultra (dfi?)

is that cheap kingston hyperx memory really tccd? and is it any good?
it has this code: KHX3200UlK2/1G, 1024MB 400MHz PC3200 DDR Non-ECC Ultra Low-Latency CL2 (2-2-2-5-1) DIMM (Kit of 2x512MB)
http://www.interngeheugen.com/prodmem.odb?artcod=31984

[arj]

Guys, what's up with the huge price drop for OCZ rams? The 1GB kit PC4200EL Plat is going for US$205 at excaliberpc.com today. I got it for US$352 not too long ago! Another one is the PC3200 Rev2. My friend bought it for US$273 on 30 December and the price was US$205 a few days ago! Feeling sooo tempted to get another pair of PC4200EL Plat :D

[MaRtIe]

guys ive been thinking...


i have the corsair 3200XLPT rev 1.2 TCCD 256*2 its currently running at 2.85V

i know there is a point where TCCD hates a certain voltage.. but id like to take my TCCD to 2.95V+ i would like to do the 3.3V cap mod.

to reduce the 3.3V cap mod voltage could i lower my 3.3V psu line? my psu has adjustable pots... thanks

ps, not sure if this is right thread?

[Illbleed]

Patriot 2*256 pc3200 xblk kit from newegg.
B6U815 Red HS

DFI Lanparty Pro 875B Rev A
P4 2.4C with Thermaltake SP94 HSF, default vcore.


275fsb 2.5-3-3-5 @ 2.6 vdimm and 1.5 vagp

400 passes of memtest #5. Priming at moment.

Im sure these sticks have more in them, but additional voltage increases haven't given me anything higher (thats stable).
Northbridge running extremely hot (passive cooled) so thats probably holding me back the most.

[arj]

OMG, the OCZ PC4200EL Plat is now US$388! :eek:

[MaRtIe]

is that expensive? srry dont live in USA

[Pimp!]

bah after having my PDP xbl for about month and a half, and wondering why it wouldnt go above about 260 with 2.5-3-3-7 with low voltage. wanted to get to the bottom of it. although i should have done this the first day i got the ram, i just didnt :p ram memtest on both sticks @ 285 2.5-3-3-7 2.85 1 passed until i stopped, other started getting errors in 3rd pass of test #5. RMA and hope to get 2 sticks like the good one i had :/

then put the "good" stick at 300mhz with 2.5-3-3-7 2.85v and didnt crash after about an hour of just doing random stuff (yes i know that doesnt mean its stable) then took em out to send back.

[Mastakilla]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/print/epox-9npa.html

In the 8x300MHz mode the frequency of the HyperTransport bus was 900MHz (3x300MHz), and the memory was clocked at 600MHz (2.4GHz / 8). The memory timings were set to 2.5-4-4-8. By the way, among the memory modules we had at hand during our tests, only Corsair CMX512-4400C25PT could work that fast (as DDR600 SDRAM).

again this memory is mentioned for its good performance, this time by xbitlabs

can anyone confirm if non-picked samples of these memory are so good too?

cause then they are alot cheaper then ocz rev2 or the better gskill sticks (259 euro <--> 280/300 euro)

allthough i still think thats too expensive for me, i might still give em try of they are really that awesome...

[Punisher!]

Hello,

The ADATA PC4800, is Hynix B or TCCD
I have receive two stick ... one TCCD and one Hynix B :stick:



:mad:

Please, buy PC4500 ADATA, and not PC4800 ...
PC4800 is most expensif, and not better, and risk og have Hynix B :mad:

Could you post "SPD" CPU-Z screen of each stick please?

[SynGroW]

Got myself some G.Skill PC4800LA (440)

Running quite nice in DC:
http://www.hardwaredome.nl/images/reviews/memory/bh5_vs_gskill/gskill311285.JPG
311MHz CL2,5-3-3-6 1T @ 2.85v Pifast stable @ low cpu MHz (2800)

http://www.hardwaredome.nl/images/reviews/memory/bh5_vs_gskill/gskill290260s.JPG
290MHz CL2,5-3-3-6 1T @ 2.60v Sisoft/Pifast stable CPU running @ 2900MHz

And the final pifast run with high cpu MHz
http://www.hardwaredome.nl/images/syngrow/pifast/3984.JPG
302MHz CL2,5-3-3-5 1T @ 2.9v with A64 Tweaker memtweaks and CPU @ 3020MHz :)

[Susquehannock]

Nice DC results. :toast: Is that memtest & P95 stable too?

How do they do at 3.2v? Have you tried Cas 2.0 yet?

[gvmichel]

Hy guys!

I`ll get a MSI K8Neo2 and a 3000+. Still have to choose the RAM:

Which would you pick: (prices in brazil)

1) PC4400 GEIL 1GB ULTRA-X DUAL = $366
2) PC3200 CORSAIR 1GB TWIN XL PRO = $346
3) PC3200 CORSAIR 1GB TWIN XL = $315
4) PC4400 CORSAIR 1GB TWIN = $449
5) PC4400 OCZ 1GB DUAL GOLD = $389 (not sure if it is TCCD)

Thanks!

[Kobalt]

get the GeIL :)

[rpr]

Got myself some G.Skill PC4800LA
Are these available anywhere in the US??? :confused:

[cupra]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-009&depa=1

its a tccd mem ?

[sUpervizer']

You need to add the Corsair Xpert, @ Anandtech they said its TCCD or I dont remmember where but someone sure did. :)

[Susquehannock]

Are these available anywhere in the US??? :confused:

Sure! New Egg has the 2x256 kit (F1-3200DSU2-512LA) ...
... and Digi4Me has the single 256mb stick (F1-3200DSU1-256LA)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-009&depa=1[/url]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-009&depa=1

its a tccd mem ?

Nope. At least not the newer TCCD that love voltage. You need the "XBLK" ... (PDC1G3200+XBLK)

[rpr]

"Sure! New Egg has the 2x256 kit (F1-3200DSU2-512LA) ...
... and Digi4Me has the single 256mb stick (F1-3200DSU1-256LA)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-009&depa=1[/url]"

Thanks, but I neglected to mention I need 512MB x 2.

[cupra]

Nope. At least not the newer TCCD that love voltage. You need the "XBLK" ... (PDC1G3200+XBLK)

ok, thanks Susquehannock :thumbsup:

[Susquehannock]

Thanks, but I neglected to mention I need 512MB x 2.

Oh, you may be out of luck then. Haven't seen any US vendors that
carry 1gb LA kits. It may be Gskill only offers them in 256mb flavor.

ok, thanks Susquehannock :thumbsup:

n p :)

[The Runner]

guys in the UK should check out the Patriot 2x512mb Low Latency XBLK kit, a mere £134 inc vat - www.tekheads.co.uk (about 140 inc delivery) I bought mine just over 1 month ago for £156!

I hate pc hardware depreciation :(

[Susquehannock]

> "I hate pc hardware depreciation" <

Arrrgh! ... she be a harsh mistress!! :cord:

[Jessfm]

guys in the UK should check out the Patriot 2x512mb Low Latency XBLK kit, a mere £134 inc vat - www.tekheads.co.uk (about 140 inc delivery) I bought mine just over 1 month ago for £156!

I hate pc hardware depreciation :(

How you getting on with it ?

[caligula]

OK, I've got yesterday two Sycron sticks, they say "B6U808" on one side, they do work at 270+ 1T, well guess what? Remarked BP TCCDs. I've paid 150 EUROs for 1 Gig...
The memories have these markings on them:
Sycron
SY25D328512K-5
0501 DDR

Good luck :)

[BeSaiD]

Caligula, where did you buy that TCCD@150€??!! do you know if they ship to spain? :P

Great deal for that money, man!

[TEDY]

omg 150€ really cheap for gig.

[caligula]

OK, don't be so happy, they won't go past 275-280 (and not so memtest stable) on my system. Will test in the weekend on a better system...

[TEDY]

well caligula still decent for great price :p

[TEDY]

XMS3202v4.1

0441009-1

TCCD ?

[IronAge]

I have a set of A-Data Vitesta DDR 600 on the way.

How can i figure out if they have got the TCCD ICs or the Hynix ICs without having to install them in a system.

Or do they have the TCCDs definetly ?

The Corsair TWINX1024-4400C25 should have the TCCDs and the BP PCB as well ?

Or ist there any difference beside the heat spreader between 4400C25 and 4400C25PT

I have got a MSI K8N NEO4 and a A939 3200+ 0,90 and want to run em at 250- 2,5-3-3-6


THX and bye

IronAge


BTW: Its great here !!!

[Ulti]

Adata DDR600 always has TCCD to my knowledge, unless you know some Hynix that does 300mhz with that kinda volt :stick:

[IronAge]

Adata DDR600 always has TCCD to my knowledge, unless you know some Hynix that does 300mhz with that kinda volt :stick:

Well somebody mentioned in this thread he got one with Hynix and another with TCCDs. Also there seem to be ones with a green PCB with red heat spreader and ones with red pcb and read heat spreader.

Which ones i should go for ?

Get the ADATA DDR600 which are waiting at a local store or the Corsair Twinx1024-4400C25. (cost almost the same Adata 246 Euro Corsair 249 Euro)

The Corsaid 3200Xl might be an option too, they go for like 226 Euro here.

Thx and bye.

[yataH]

Next month , i receive my Centon PC3200LL with TCCD 440 & BP808 :toast: :rocker: :thumbsup:

[IronAge]

PQI4000-1024DPL are comfirmed to have TCCD as well.

Take a look at them here

http://www.fastlanehw.com/reviews.php?i=141&page=3


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-138&depa=1

There is a great index of memory reviews on the inet:

http://www.jathardware.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=35#misc


The PDP patriot XBL have the 440 TCCDs as well. Take a look:

http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/memory/pdp/patriot/images/Img_0015.jpg
http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/memory/pdp/patriot/images/Img_0013.jpg
http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/memory/pdp/patriot/images/Img_0012.jpg

[sluggard]

DFI nf3 250 UT s754 dingle ch.
Corsair 3200XL rev. 1.2 Smasung TCCD on Brainpower PCBvdimm 2.9v

3-4-4-11
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/TCCD/3_4_4_11.png

2,5-3-3-11
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/TCCD/2.5_3_3_11.png

2-2-2-5
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/TCCD/2_2_2_5.png

[IronAge]

In germany there have been spotted new A-DATA DDR-500 with 449 TCCD ic's !!!

one of them has:

MDOSSBF3H4740B1G0Z
DDR500(3) 512MX16
S/N:503XR (SCBJC1916)

On the ic's

Samsung 449
K4H560838F-TCCD

(!!!)

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=104095

attention - alien language ;)

Since there are DDR-500 Modules with other weeks as well i suppose A-DATA has changed the production towards TCCDs.

thx and bye.

[pontifikas]

I'm desperate to find TCCD dimms and the table at the first page says that OCZ P Rev2 have TCCD.

I found in an e-shop a pair of OCZ platinum. The shop claims that the latency clockings are 2,2,2,5 but it doesnot explicitly tells if these are Rev.2
(It may seem Greek to you (well...it is :D) but check it out).
http://www.mgmanager.gr/view.asp?ID=6572
Any chance they aren't?

thanks in advance :)

[jasonkruys]

I'm desperate to find TCCD dimms and the table at the first page says that OCZ P Rev2 have TCCD.

I found in an e-shop a pair of OCZ platinum. The shop claims that the latency clockings are 2,2,2,5 but it doesnot explicitly tells if these are Rev.2
(It may seem Greek to you (well...it is :D) but check it out).
http://www.mgmanager.gr/view.asp?ID=6572
Any chance they aren't?

thanks in advance :)

The part number quoted is OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K, which is indeed the Rev 2. Also I believe the previous modules only clocked 2-3-2-6. Part number checks out tho, so looks good

[fatty]

Ok well just got some OCZ4200EL as my old 4200 went faulty these have the brain power b6u808 pcb but they wont be tccd will they??? They will be hynix or something well anywho cant wait to get home and test them out :)

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

the Corsair XMS3200C2 2-3-3-6 v4.2 is, i believe, Samsung Rev F (whatever that is :) ). This is direct from the "Ram Guy" (on their support forums), who, being a corsair rep, should know.

[Doctor Carta]

this might be a newbe question,but what kind of max fsb OC's at 2-2-2-5/11 am i looking at?and the vdimm it requires...

Thanks

[jjcom]

230mhz or so, about 2.8v

jjcom

[Doctor Carta]

230mhz or so, about 2.8v

jjcom

what about at 3.3?

[TEDY]

where can i get GSKILL LA / LE in EUROPE ?

[setyotomo]

XMS3202v4.1

0441009-1

TCCD ?

yes Tedy, 4.1 are TCCD's ! i got 2pcs 256mb here (not dual pack), and its running 289 2.5-3-3-7 1T @ 2.9v :D - think they can do more with higher voltage :) . PS : in your country, they still have the 4.1's ??

Well somebody mentioned in this thread he got one with Hynix and another with TCCDs. Also there seem to be ones with a green PCB with red heat spreader and ones with red pcb and read heat spreader.

Which ones i should go for ?

i got the red one today .. it's TCCD , you can see it HERE (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53036)

regards

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

damnit, the 3202v4.1s are TCCD! my 3202v4.2s are either TCC4 or TCC5

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

mine har this code:
OCZ5331024ELDC-K (ocz pc4200EL) ....probarbly hynix ram, but can somebody tell for sure, and how they will work with DFI nf4 sli DR ....experience is topnotch...

[Jethro]

got my A64 rig up and running and so far its allowed my Patriot to pass memtest @ 285 but im still trying to figure out all these timings!

ive got an Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 and a retail 3200+. Its nice to have ram that allows me to find the max of me cpu 1:1.

anyone got a screenie of some decent tccd timings for say 260or so using a64 tweaker? im really overwhelmed by all the timings is all :D

[IronAge]

where can i get GSKILL LA / LE in EUROPE ?

you could buy a set from me.(germany)

when you are interested, just let me know.

and i let you know prices and shippings costs. of course new/unused.
and bill/invoice with your name on it.

bye,

IronAge

BTW:

i can deliver the GBLE T1 pc4400 dc kits and GBLA pc4800 dc kits as well.

[Wing_man_dk]

ad Geil UltraX PC4400 (Geil UltraX PC3200, just at CAS 2.5 7-4-4 PC4400 550MHz DDR)

it´s tccd

http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=58

[Merlin]

A week or two ago i bought a 2x512mb kit oc-wear tccd series from mindfactory.de for 206€ (oc-wear's own shop sells them for 219€ o.O), it has 449 tccds on brainpower pcbs (808). No chance to test it, yet..

[sin0822]

After doing more research and talking with the Ram Guy i found that Corsair 3200xl rev 1.2 IS TCCD but DOES NOT use the brainpower pcb. It uses a proprietary PCB made by Corsair, the same stuff they use on the 4400**.

[Rodzilla]

Don't think this one is on the list... (I did searches for model numbers ect and checked the confirmed list...)

Wouldn't you know it! I bought ram and wasn't even looking for TCCC and found some! :lol:

Anyway... It's Patriot PC4000 512MB kit (2x256MB) CL3-4-4-8 Model#PDC5124000ELK
$78.59 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-004&depa=0


It goes up to 250MHz but I can't boot if it's not set at 3-4-4-8 (Crappy I know... not my system or RAM ;) ) I'm stuck at 2.8V on an IC7-G for now.

Chips are:
SAMSUNG 443
K4h560838F - TCCC
H56 8 CFI590HBC (same on all 16 chips)

Here are some pics I took...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26420&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26421&stc=1 <--Is this the BrainPower PCB???

I was hoping someone could tell me what these are capable of. How much voltage can/should I give them??? And are these on the BrainPower board?

[Jessfm]

Don't think this one is on the list... (I did searches for model numbers ect and checked the confirmed list...)

Wouldn't you know it! I bought ram and wasn't even looking for TCCC and found some! :lol:

Anyway... It's Patriot PC4000 512MB kit (2x256MB) CL3-4-4-8 Model#PDC5124000ELK
$78.59 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-004&depa=0


It goes up to 250MHz but I can't boot if it's not set at 3-4-4-8 (Crappy I know... not my system or RAM ;) ) I'm stuck at 2.8V on an IC7-G for now.

Chips are:
SAMSUNG 443
K4h560838F - TCCC
H56 8 CFI590HBC (same on all 16 chips)

Here are some pics I took...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26420&stc=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26421&stc=1 <--Is this the BrainPower PCB???

I was hoping someone could tell me what these are capable of. How much voltage can/should I give them??? And are these on the BrainPower board?


Thats nice but this is about TCCD not TCCC AFAIK

[TEDY]

Just bought some Apacer PC4000 TCCD 0431

300 2.5-4-4-7 at 2.8V

Any tips for other settings ? thanks.

[Jesse71]

where can i get GSKILL LA / LE in EUROPE ?


Here (http://www.pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/memory/ddr-ram-pc3200.asp) :cool:

[TEDY]

too expensive jesse71.....somewhere in deutchland ?

[W4nK5ta]

Here you are. ;) -> www.oc-wear.de

[chew*]

I can confirm that kingston value line is indeed TCCC and at $113. US for 2 x 512mb sticks its not to bad. rated timings are 3-3-3-8 @ ddr 400 with 2.6v will do 2.5-3-3-7 up to ddr 480 with 2.8 v but its no where in the league of TCCD. For the money you can prolly pick up Muskin blue line UTT and run tighter timings though at a cost of 15 dollars more. I took the chance hoping they would clock higher than my infineon or run tighter timings at DDR 400 but once again my infineon proves to be my best bargain bin memory to date.

[chew*]

Thats nice but this is about TCCD not TCCC AFAIK
Pay attention to page 1 first post and you will see TCCC listed........

[Rodzilla]

Pay attention to page 1 first post and you will see TCCC listed........

Holly cow! You're right! So I got yelled at for nothing! :lol:

[Wired-HoH]

FYI, I just mentioned some updates to the Ram List here concerning the Corsair listings.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50010&page=11&pp=25

XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.x Samsung -5 TCCX (TCC4 or TCC5 or TCCD) (9 sticks)

All 3200XLs and 4400C25s are TCCDs.

[pha|anx]

I believe Shikatronics Xram High Performance pc4000 3-4-4-8 also has TCCD chips in it

http://www.shikatronics.com/commerce/details_en.asp?prodtechmate=SXP%2D512M%2FPC4000K2
http://commerce.shikatronics.com/details_en.asp?prodtechmate=SXP-512M/PC3200K2

:shrug:

[medl]

Geil ultra X or Corsair XL or Ballistix?

Which memory is the best?

[Jessfm]

Geil ultra X or Corsair XL or Ballistix?

Which memory is the best?

Geil ultra X - is no longer TCCD, so avoid

Ballistix - does do very good on A64 and is not TCCD

Corsair XL rev 1.2 is waht you want and is good

[ianocean]

Geil Ultra X PC3200 is BH-5 now but Geil Ultra X PC4400 is TCCD 100%.
I have tested both and the second has reached DDR 600 at 2.5-3-3-7 2.9v.
http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=58

[meateater]

I am gonna be able to get a geil ultra x pc3200 which is dated october 2004.
Those are more likely to be tccd right?

[ianocean]

Geil Ultra X PC3200 with P/N 0746 is TCCD,with P/N 1243 is BH-5

[meateater]

thanks ianocean.

[ianocean]

Little help here needed-is this Mushkin PC3200 BL level 2 v.3 (http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushkin.storefront/425aac12013b85d02740c0a80102061c/Product/View/991355) TCCD.I've doubt about version3

[WeldZilla]

I know that VX and TCCD and everynew wonder drug, I mean fast mem product that comes down the pipe seems to be optimized for AMD. Well my Epox 4PDA2+Ver.2 likes this G.Skill TCCD too! This is my best 1:1 running at 3.1V
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/s.jpg
This has been some really sweet mem.

WZ

[cpulloverclock]

this modules are weird

DDR1 667

http://angel.ap.teacup.com/maiko/img/1114101523.jpg

[BerT]

OCZ EL PC4000 gold rev2 seems to be tccd 2.
They do 290@2.9V -> 2.5-3-3-8

[Divine_Madcat]

Not sure how specific you want to be, but the PQI Turbo 4000 has TCCD on brainpower 808 PCB (SPD of 2-2-2-5)..

[Napoleonic]

can someone tell me if corsair 1024XLPT pc3200 able to reach 300+ MHz? with what timming and voltage? thanks

[Silicon Effect]

Possible TCCD

Corsair XMS 3200C2 rev 4.3


currently @ 200mhz 2 2 2 5 1T

[Crazykooter]

3200XL here which is tccd 510, I have mine at 288 2.5-3-3-6 right now and I just got them today. seems like they like voltage. It takes 3.1 to get them stable. Not sure how much to feed a tccd stick.

[Kosmic71]

It is the best I can do. I've got a big house fan in front of it (case side wall removed) room temp at 18C. At room temp 21C it gave me 2 errors at pass
45 and 2 more at pass 59. :mad:

http://img15.echo.cx/img15/8792/kosmicwaterbox0016ub.jpg

FSB Bus Frequency: 300
LTD/FSB Frequency Ratio: X 3.0
LDT Bus Transfer Width: 16/16
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio: X 9.0
PCI Express Frequency: 100 Mhz
K8 Cool & Quiet Support: Disable
CPU Vid Startup Value: Startup
CPU Vid Control: 1.450v
CPU Special Vid Control: Above Vid * 110%
LTD Voltage Control: 1.20v
Chipset Voltage Control: 1.50v
Dram Voltage Control: 2.90v
Run Memtest86: Disable
MAC Lan: Auto
MAC Media Interface: PinStrap
Machine MAC NV Address: Disable
Internal Phy SATA 1/2: Disable
Internal Phy SATA 3/4: Enable
Si I3114 sATA Raid Control: Disable
VIA 1394 Control: Enable
Marvel Giga Lan Control: Enable

Dram Frequency: 200 (DRAM/FSB:1/01)
Command Per Clock (cpc): Enable
Cas Latency Control (tcl): 2.5
Ras to Cas Delay (trcd): 3
Min Ras Active Time (tras): 7
Row Precharge Time (trp): 3
Row Cycle Time (trc): 7
Row Refrsh Cycle Time (trfc): 14
Row to Row Delay (trrd): 2
Write Recovery Time (twr): 2
Write to Read Delay (twtr): 2
Read to Write Delay (trwt): 2
Refresh Period (tref): 3632
Write Cas Latency (twcl): 1
Dram Bank Interleave: Enable
DQS Skew Control: Increase Skew
DQS Skew Value: 255
Dram Drive Strength Level: Level 7
Dram Data Drive Strength: Level 2
Max Async Latency: 0.8 nano seconds
Read Preamble Time: 0.5 nano seconds
Idle Cycle Limit: 256 Cycles
Dynamic Counter: Disable
R/W Queue Bypass: 16X
Bypass Max: 7X
32 byte Granularity: Disable (8 Bursts)

[aznblueeboi]

how high should you take TCCD? I have some sticks coming in and I've only seen up to 3.2ish

I'm asking because I'm used to stuffing 3.6+ to my BH5

[eddieate]

how about the normal geil ultra not the ultra-x is that TCCD or BH-5 or anything?

[Kosmic71]

how high should you take TCCD? I have some sticks coming in and I've only seen up to 3.2ish

I'm asking because I'm used to stuffing 3.6+ to my BH5

Well, I see ppl using 2.6v-2.9v mostly with TCCD, I don't think it would get it more stable with more Vdimm. What do you guys think?

[fordf250]

My new OCZ EL PC3200 Platinum rev2 is 510 TCC5.

Is the OCZ EL PC4200 Platinum TCCD and will it run 5-2-2-2 at 200fsb?

[TEDY]

My new OCZ EL PC3200 Platinum rev2 is 510 TCC5.

Is the OCZ EL PC4200 Platinum TCCD and will it run 5-2-2-2 at 200fsb?

ha, no wonder why OCE EL REV2 is cheap.....OCZ started to cheat.... :nono:

[andyOCZ]

My new OCZ EL PC3200 Platinum rev2 is 510 TCC5.

Is the OCZ EL PC4200 Platinum TCCD and will it run 5-2-2-2 at 200fsb?

Hi, the 4200EL Platinum could be TCC5 or TCCD. Performance is the same. Much of the higer binned chips will not do 2-2-2 reliably. It depends on the memory and your memory controller.

[andyOCZ]

ha, no wonder why OCE EL REV2 is cheap.....OCZ started to cheat.... :nono:

We are not "cheating" and have even stated her on XS that TCC5 is taking over as the TCCD has become short on availability.

Are you complaining about the same performance with lower prices? We always have used what works. We have all of our chips tested on a million dollar machine and the "slow" ones don't get used in our premium products. We do not state or gurantee a specific chip on our website or in our advertising.

[OnDborder]

ha, no wonder why OCE EL REV2 is cheap.....OCZ started to cheat.... :nono:
Why? Isn't tcc5 just as good as tccd?

[gundamit]

Why? Isn't tcc5 just as good as tccd? Uh oh here we go again. Hopefully the mods don't let this thread crash and burn like yesterdays. I thought they pulled that thread of its tailspin, (clipping just a few trees) and then bailed out. That thread looked tough on everyone invovled. BTW - Tip of the cap to all OCZ employees who always seem to be at their best when XS members are at their worst ... y'know ... when they're just being members. ;)

But to answer your loaded question, I'd guess TCC5 is potentially as good as TCCD but your chances of pulling a great pair of OCZ Plat Rev.2 aren't as good now (as it was back in January) because OCZ is binning for higher speed products leaving the pool for for Plat PC3200 with a far less performance range. But that would have been the case with even if TCCD stayed in high production.

[l393ndz]

:confused: :confused: i hope im not jacking this thread but i need help identifying my KINGSTON HYPERX KHX4000/512R rev.10/02 31. ive done as much research as i can via GOOGLE, Xtremesystems forums, and DFI Street forums. Looked through various threads about memory- setttings/voltages/brands/polls... etc... I read the 1st page of this thread and it seems my memory could be either TCCC or Hynix D34/D5. Is there any other way to confirm this? I really dont want to spend extra $$$ if i can help it. Im putting a new system together which consists of the following- DFI ULTRA-D, LBBLE 0516 VENICE +3000, Sapphire x700pro, Seasonic S12 600w, Philipps Acoustic Edge, & two 512 sticks of Kingston HyperX KHX4000 (purchased in early 2004). I'd appreciate any help you guys can give me. Btw, my memory doesnt have any K2/A/UL suffix so im at loss here trying to identify Exactly what kind of crap i got here. If worst comes to worst im open to suggestions for what ram to buy ($100-200 max). Right now i got some G. Skill Model F1-3200BWU2-1GBGH in mind at Newegg. You ppl that already read the thread i got this specification from should know what im talking about :D .

[FLDQUY157]

I am interested in getting Corsair 4400C25 but there are 2 versions being the black and the platinum heatspreader.

Do they both have TCCD chips on Brainpower PCB?

Thank you very much.

[l393ndz]

I am interested in getting Corsair 4400C25 but there are 2 versions being the black and the platinum heatspreader.

Do they both have TCCD chips on Brainpower PCB?

Thank you very much.

wuz up bro... with all the research i did on these forums i remember reading that theres no difference except for the spreader.... too lazy to post the link and i already got too many A64 links to look through.. i highly suggest you use the SEARCH feature, look for links relating to memory (if you havent done so already), and read thoroughly. I'm sure you'll find what im talking about... :)

[FLDQUY157]

wuz up bro... with all the research i did on these forums i remember reading that theres no difference except for the spreader.... too lazy to post the link and i already got too many A64 links to look through.. i highly suggest you use the SEARCH feature, look for links relating to memory (if you havent done so already), and read thoroughly. I'm sure you'll find what im talking about... :)

Hi. I did but couldn't find the exact info I wanted. The most recent one saying there was no difference between the 2 was like in late Dec 2004.

I thought there could have been any change because the price diff is like $50 in OZ at some shops and just wanted to confirm this.

Thanks for your input. :thumbsup:

[FLDQUY157]

I am being led to believe that probably the newer batch of Corsair XMS4400C25 sticks are TCC5 this is because I was asking in a thread on HoH and RG answered admirably.

But as soon as someone (Ghost Worm) mentioned somewhere around the bottom of the first page that he had found his sticks having TCC5 chips RG has never responded ever since although I have been making inquiry posts quite a couple of times asking for a confirmation message from him. :(

TCCD or TCC5? (http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39173)

[jcollett69]

We do not state or gurantee a specific chip on our website or in our advertising.

Hmmm, doesn't this page from the OCZ website refute your claim?

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr_pc_3200_value_winbond_series_dual_channel

[FLDQUY157]

Hmmm, doesn't this page from the OCZ website refute your claim?

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr_pc_3200_value_winbond_series_dual_channel

If u meant my post above u, I was talking about Corsair, whose claim has always been that they started manufacturing their XL and 4400C25 series using TCCD chips since DAY 1. Now there has been 1 user who got the guts to remove the heatspreaders and found that the chips were TCC5.

I was not talking about OCZ.

[RyderOCZ]

Hmmm, doesn't this page from the OCZ website refute your claim?

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr_pc_3200_value_winbond_series_dual_channelT hat says Winbond made the chips on the ram, not what chip from winbond, so technically Andy is correct in his statement.
We do not advertise what chips are on the ram, I think most manufacturers do not IIRC, some might though :)

[bugeyes]

I am being led to believe that probably the newer batch of Corsair XMS4400C25 sticks are TCC5 this is because I was asking in a thread on HoH and RG answered admirably.

But as soon as someone (Ghost Worm) mentioned somewhere around the bottom of the first page that he had found his sticks having TCC5 chips RG has never responded ever since although I have been making inquiry posts quite a couple of times asking for a confirmation message from him. :(

TCCD or TCC5? (http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39173)

gostworm must be on drugs.... Ram Guy finally responded... So if it's TCCD you wan't then CORSAIR is the place to look :banana:


As I said before all XMS4400C25 and XMS3200XL modules use Samsung TCCD IC's. Corsair uses TCC5 RAMs only on other speed grades, such as the XMS3200C2 and XMS4000. Note that Samsung did not stop producing TCCD IC's, they just stopped shipping them to non direct suppliers. Or in other words we still get a large quantity every month and will do so for some time to come.

LINK ---> http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=193555&postcount=20

[FLDQUY157]

I'll take Ram Guy's words and am in the process of ordering a pair of 4400C25.

[leanintoit]

Today I recieved two single sticks of CMX512-4400C25PT XMS4404v1.1 from zipzoomfly. Heatspreader date code on both sticks is 0517. I opened up one side of one stick. Chip date code is 510 TCCD :fact:

[bugeyes]

did you get ZZF special for $79 :stick:

[leanintoit]

Yes I did. :banana: Why do you ask? I see they are now $105 each. Mine are identical right down to the lot codes. Waiting on the rest of my stuff to arrive to give them a try. This will be my first A64 system.

[bugeyes]

Yes I did. :banana: Why do you ask? I see they are now $105 each. I asked because that sale lasted about 10min...lol I'ts a great buy at $160 for a gig of TCCD. :toast:

[$ilver]

whats about them ?


G.Skill F1-3200PHU2-1GBZX


TCCD or not

[TEDY]

not

[leanintoit]

Today I recieved two single sticks of CMX512-4400C25PT XMS4404v1.1 from zipzoomfly. Heatspreader date code on both sticks is 0517. I opened up one side of one stick. Chip date code is 510 TCCD :fact:


The rest of my stuff came in today and I was putting it all together. I figured it would probably be a bad idea to leave one side of the heatspreader on. Might heat up and fall in not such a good place. Man they are hard to get off.

Anyhow the other side of the one stick that I opened has Chip date code 513 TCCD.

Am I right in thinking that the heat spreaders do somewhere between nothing and nothing good? Leave them on or take them off?

[Duonger]

Mushkin

991400 1GB XP4400 Dual Pack 2.5-4-4 (2x512MB)
991399 512MB XP4400 2.5-4-4

Are both TCCD as well.

Duonger

[4rory]

someone should really remove the ocz rev.2 from the tccd list, its misleading now and people will be pretty disappointed when they end up paying for something other then what they wanted. G.skill garantees tccd.

[kite7]

I believe Shikatronics Xram High Performance pc4000 3-4-4-8 also has TCCD chips in it

http://www.shikatronics.com/commerce/details_en.asp?prodtechmate=SXP%2D512M%2FPC4000K2
http://commerce.shikatronics.com/details_en.asp?prodtechmate=SXP-512M/PC3200K2

:shrug:

is there anyone else out there that can confirm this? I have this ram but don't want to remove heat spreader. But it seems that I can't do 270 1:1 with my cpu so either this ram isn't TCCD or my 3000+ winnie doesn't have a great memory controller

[STEvil]

might be the CPU or motherboard/bios related.

My OCZ PC4800 Platinum (TCC5) does 312 @ 2.5-4-3-8 2.85v so far..

[harpyboy]

i just got my Patriot XBLK 512mbx2

the max i can get is 275mhz 3-4-4-8 at 2.8V ...

looks ok since it is rated to do 266mhz at 3-4-4-8.... and i get wat i paid for $169

[raydelee]

Today I recieved two single sticks of CMX512-4400C25PT XMS4404v1.1 from zipzoomfly. Heatspreader date code on both sticks is 0517. I opened up one side of one stick. Chip date code is 510 TCCD :fact:

pls let us know ur xms4404v.1.1 still can go how much higher fsb

[amrgb]

someone should really remove the ocz rev.2 from the tccd list, its misleading now and people will be pretty disappointed when they end up paying for something other then what they wanted. G.skill garantees tccd.

I agree, specially when it is a fact that TCCD is still produced. There is no reason to keep non-TCCD sticks in a TCCD ram list.

[RebelsHaven]

As I understand it, only manfacturers with long term contracts with Samsung, are getting real TCCD.... We need a real current list of them and their memory part numbers...

[raydelee]

As I understand it, only manfacturers with long term contracts with Samsung, are getting real TCCD.... We need a real current list of them and their memory part numbers...

yes,agree...

[4rory]

People are saying that corsair is the oen with exclusive rights to tccd now, but gskill still has lots?

[STEvil]

might be corsair persuaded samsung to run another batch or two of tccd just for them

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

I can confirm that Corsair XMS PC3200C2 Rev4.2 2-3-3-6-1T is NOT TCCD but is actually TCC5.

[high5]

it depends. i know for sure that there are v4.2's with tccd.

[Wired-HoH]

I can confirm that Corsair XMS PC3200C2 Rev4.2 2-3-3-6-1T is NOT TCCD but is actually TCC5.
Gotta agree with high5.

http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showpost.php?p=197321&postcount=277

Some are TCCD, some are TCCX. LOT #s ARE NEEDED to confirm ICs.

[alpha0ne]

Gotta agree with high5.

http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showpost.php?p=197321&postcount=277

Some are TCCD, some are TCCX. LOT #s ARE NEEDED to confirm ICs.

If I bought the Corsair XMS PC3200C2 Rev4.2 expecting (as one would) TCCD and found out the IC's were actually TCC5 I would not be very happy :nono:

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

ok, v4.2 is mixed then.

[Wired-HoH]

If I bought the Corsair XMS PC3200C2 Rev4.2 expecting (as one would) TCCD and found out the IC's were actually TCC5 I would not be very happy :nono:

Frankly, there's no reason to be upset. When investigating what ICs are in their memory, they're pretty clear that there can be multiple ICs used within a revision, and that the part # / revision # / lot # is needed for them to check what ICs are in each stick.

If someone ASSUMES something without doing research, then it's their own fault. Fortunately, Corsair's RMA policy is pretty lenient, and their cust service has been known to go above and beyond when replacing memory when someone buys 2 sticks that aren't of the same revision. However, they cannot guarantee which lot # someone gets (in otherwords, which IC someone gets).

[Ziku]

Is this (http://www.eglobalseatosky.com/ProductDetail.asp?id=6800) TCCD on Brainpower PCB?

[aznblueeboi]

some of the gigaram mach 1000 modules use tccd...like this 3700, the 4000 and the 4200

review here
http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?page=gigarammach1000pc3700_1

[Aleman]

Are there no value rams with TCCD? Like some Winbond chips are to be found on Value.

[largon]

@Aleman:
the failed tccd will only go into our very low end product
Pc-3200 Performance rev 3 and PC-3200 gold C2 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68709)

[Aleman]

Thx Largon

[Paxal]

Looking for new RAM.

Should I go for sticks with TCCD chips or BH5 chips? The BH5 sticks need a lot of power to run at high speeds with good timings, so do I need active cooling for for them because of the voltage being 3.2V+?

[bhoward]

Got a new set of Corsair PC3200XL. Easily running at 280mhz @ 2.5-3-3-6 @ 2.85V. Limited by my P-M cpu. Seems to be hitting wall at 2.5g :(

[micorreo]

Is There Any 2gb Kit With Samsung Tccd Chips?

[andyOCZ]

Is There Any 2gb Kit With Samsung Tccd Chips?

This is not possible, as TCCD can only be used in 512mb modules due to it's 32mb chips density. 1gb sticks take 64mb chips.

[Sgt_Strider]

Yep, Patriot PC3200XBL is defo Samsung TCCD, both sticks I have here have them :)

My Corsair PC3200XLs are the same, shame they don't clock as well as the Patriot stuff :(

I have the Patriot PC3200 with 2-2-2-5 timings marked on the stick. However, it doesn't seem to clock very well. I can't run it at 1T and with Bank interleave on even at stock settings :confused:. How do I check if it's TCCD? I'm thinking of just replacing it and get another TCCD based RAM.

[Sgt_Strider]

Is the Kingston KHX3200ULK2/1G memory kit still TCCD base or it has changed? I'm on the market for new TCCD base ram. Should I get one with brain PCB to ensure the best clock speed? Thanks.

[Westley]

i brought a corsair cmx512-3200 3-3-3-8 black, rev 1.4, that is samsung tccd also,
but it need high voltage for better performance.

[Perc]

I have the Patriot PC3200 with 2-2-2-5 timings marked on the stick. However, it doesn't seem to clock very well. I can't run it at 1T and with Bank interleave on even at stock settings :confused:. How do I check if it's TCCD? I'm thinking of just replacing it and get another TCCD based RAM.

when did you buys these? are they the XBLK series? used to be all XBLK were tccd with the BP pcb. now im starting to wonder if they havent switched to diff chips? i just ordered a pair last night and hope to recieve tccd chips but for some reason im getting a funny feeling about this...... you can take one of the heat spreaders off and look at the chips it will say tccd 4xx on the chip. please post back if you decide to take one of the spreaders off. i hope you report back with tccd....

peace perc,

[[cTx]Philosophy]

yes please im interested to know also..
Im Switching from a gig of OCZ gold bh-5 utt to 2 gig setup and im hoping for 280ish or maybe even 300, I remember beck somewhere that some value ram had -5b chips based on crucial ballistix..
If I could only find this post and do some research ive been looking for a few days but im in so many different forums I dont remember where I read it at..

I know someone said there is 1 gig value sticks based on -5b or wutever ballistix chips can someone remember this post?

if so can you point this out, Battlefield is killing me with only a gig..

[Doctor Carta]

Is this (http://www.eglobalseatosky.com/ProductDetail.asp?id=6800) TCCD on Brainpower PCB?

i had the turbo series which was tccd,if that helps any...

[Perc]

just thought id confirm that patriot 2x512 XBLK kits shipping from newegg are still shipping with the 815bp pcb and the tccd 522 chips. oh and the pcb is red :) just got these in today and was happy to see the BP pcb and the tccd chips.... priming 280x10 2.5-3-3-8 1t right now everything seems fine. i expect these to run as good as all my other tccd sticks...

peace perc,

[Jethro]

yesterday i got to feel these badboyz at 257x10 cas2 cmd1 for awhile and wow it was nice. since then its went flakey and im back to 255 cas2 cmd2
2 3 3 11

whats your max cas2 perc?

[Perc]

yesterday i got to feel these badboyz at 257x10 cas2 cmd1 for awhile and wow it was nice. since then its went flakey and im back to 255 cas2 cmd2
2 3 3 11

whats your max cas2 perc?


well i just run cas 2.5 i can run cas 2 but then if im up around 270-280htt using 2-3-3-X i would have to push like 3v thru the memory and we all know the tccd hates voltage so 2.5cas 1t is just fine for me...

btw: these tccd chips have a 522 date on them i take it these are newer then my other ones marked 440 right? whats the newest anyone has seen out of tccd?

peace perc,

[lawrywild]

does PQI Turbo Memory Ultra (ddr400 2-2-2-5 @ 2.6v) use the same TCCD and PCB as just plain Turbo?

[Reefa_Madness]

Not too long ago I was linked to a post by Angry Games over at DFI Street and in that post he referred to his 4x512 sticks of Buffalo Tech TCCD modules.

I have never seen any other references to TCCD from Buffalo Tech. Does anyone know anything about these sticks? I checked the list but did not see them (it is entirely possible that I overlooked them).

[gundamit]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820150623
The the only reference I found was on 1gig sticks. Too good to be true. Me and another guy ordered these, but they turned out to be not as advertised. Working on an RMA now. The Micron IC on the Buffalo wasn't close to the binned Crucial stuff. Check the stickied 2gig thread for details.

1 gig stick with TCCD is a pretty rare animal. Only place I can find anything close to it is its close cousin TCCC here.
https://www.dallasmemory.com/estore/prodView.asp?idproduct=1036

Good luck on you search for BUffalo 512mb TCCD sticks.

[high5]

iirc there used to be some tccd based buffalo ram rated 2-2-2, firestix cl2 was the name i think. however, they were discontinued some time ago.

as for gig sticks with tccd, there isn't any simply b/c there is no 64x8 rev f samsung ic's.

[Reefa_Madness]

Thanks for the replies, guys. You've pretty much answered my questions. Ironically, it was those 1GB sticks linked to at newegg by gundamit that started this whole line of questions for me, as newegg's product description depicts them as 1GB modules with the Samsung TCCD chipset, then the picture shows Micron ICs. There is a thread over at OCF where one of the guys was asking about that ram.

[Dave_Sz]

I just got my rig fired up a few days ago and both the CPU and them mem hit a wall at 280htt(2.5-4-3-7) 1:1. I have the corsair 3200XL v1.2 TCCD(2x512) and a E6(0530) 3000 venice on a 9npa+ ultra. With the newest bios I was stuck at 245 with the mem, once I got the older beta I got to 280. I was a bit worried cause the 3200xl are supposed to be V hungry unlike other TCCD, but these like low volts. I had them running 250 at 2.5v and now they are at 2.7v.

[RafaDel]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820150623
The the only reference I found was on 1gig sticks. Too good to be true. Me and another guy ordered these, but they turned out to be not as advertised. Working on an RMA now. The Micron IC on the Buffalo wasn't close to the binned Crucial stuff. Check the stickied 2gig thread for details.

1 gig stick with TCCD is a pretty rare animal. Only place I can find anything close to it is its close cousin TCCC here.
https://www.dallasmemory.com/estore/prodView.asp?idproduct=1036

Good luck on you search for BUffalo 512mb TCCD sticks.

Hey thank you for sharing that. I was just ready to order those from Newegg...

[njkid32]

Has anyone had a chance to test these?

http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?page=pdppatriotpc4800_1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220140

I just got them in the mail today and I put them in at 2.5-4-4-7 2.9v 300MHz 1:1. I really havent tested them much yet but I will. The TCCD's are 513's. I'll have to check next time I reboot. Here is a quick Sandra test (I ran it 5x so its right)---

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5899/capture090720051940264zp.th.png (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capture090720051940264zp.png)

[AKURA]

Just would like to add Ultra XL PC3200 Samsung TCCD 0510 on BP6U815....So far it's doing 2-3-3-6 on my P4P800 OCCT Stable for 10Hrs :D Seems to be doing much better compared to it's P.O.S Ocz Plat rev2 counterpart that i have it paired up to:clap:

[Jethro]

Well i fried a cpu got a new 3000+. It likes much higher HTT's. Paired with this new OCZ pc3700 ive been to windows up to 290HTT but still tweakin. Current max stable is 275 which isnt all that bad for a Via board i reckon. Its TCCD brainpower808 rams. Only paid $150us for a gig of this stuff so not bad.

[VASkO]

my ocz plats rev2 get very hot at only 255mhz 2.5-3-3-7 and after some 30min of heavy load they fail in prime. did anyone remove the heatspreaders of those sticks and what to expect when doing that?
my k8ns ultra-939 board has the slots for dual operation configured so: AA BB. will i gain stability with removing the HS?

[Creep-DK]

i got a set of these --> Kingston HyperX PC 3200ULK2 ~ Not in UK (15/10/04)

anyone here knows if theres a way to check if they are TCCD or not without removing the heatspreaders ?(dont want to void the warranty as they are brand new) .....they overclock very poorly thats why im wondering if Kingston might have changed to something else instead of TCCD. sry if im posting in the wrong thread but...if they are not TCCD the list should be updated ;)

[Kaiser_Sose]

I am looking for some high quality ram to go along with a 146, 148, 165, or 170 Opteron, can someone recommend me any

Are tccd or bh5 still recommended and available anywhere

[Wired-HoH]

TCCD are still being used for memory, yes. BH-5s (ORIGINAL stuff, not UTT crap) haven't been made in years.

[Kaiser_Sose]

TCCD are still being used for memory

Thanks for the information

Can you or anyone recommend which ones have tccd and maybe the next best ram after tccd just in case it is more money I want to spend

Thanks

[BiKEKiNG]

I hace CORSAIR XMS3200C2PT rev 4.2 likely have SAMSUNG TCCD 516

anyone know about the limits of this ram?

[Wired-HoH]

I hace CORSAIR XMS3200C2PT rev 4.2 likely have SAMSUNG TCCD 516

anyone know about the limits of this ram?

http://www.houseofhelp.com/v3/showthread.php?t=44365

More likely TCCX.

[Kaiser_Sose]

I do not play games so I do not care about 3dmark scores, I care about performance because I use 3d programs which requires good I/O bandwidth which I think CAS timings mater

[STEvil]

actually trcd and trp matter more than cas latency.

[high5]

Trcd yes, Trp not quite afaik.

[Kaiser_Sose]

actually trcd and trp matter more than cas latency.

Uhg, more terms to learn :)

What the heck are those and what should I look out for when purchasing stuff that effects it

[Kaiser_Sose]

ANyone try http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146397 with good results

[thinkingbear]

ANyone try http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146397 with good results
I'm pretty sure those are UCCC not TCCD. But do a search on the forums, some people are getting 270 MHz some not so much.

[uOpt]

ANyone try http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146397 with good results

UCCC.

Recent UCCC has been doing very well, at least the G.Skill.

[The_NamelessOne]

Mushkin xp4400 are also tccd....and very good ones :toast:

[DioSpada]

And the new GEIL ULTRA-X PC4400 2.5-4-4-7 are TCCD or EMPEROR ???
My PN is 1730

[JOILNUVEN]

And the new GEIL ULTRA-X PC4400 2.5-4-4-7 are TCCD or EMPEROR ???
My PN is 1730

hi guys...

geil ultra-x 4400 are 100% tccd...

my geil ultra-x 4400 PN : 17xx SN6xxxxxxx...here a pair of screens:

2225 1t 220Mhz
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/994/ultrax440022022251t0jv.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultrax440022022251t0jv.jpg)

2.5 437 1t 300Mhz
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9610/ultrax4400300254371t6eq.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultrax4400300254371t6eq.jpg)

these are tccd:clap: ...
emperor?...:rolleyes:

[lhman]

Geil UltraX pc3200

[The_Hardstylez]

Geil UltraX pc3200

The old versions have winbond UTT on them, de newst tccd/tcc5.

[Bbq]

Long time bump, but:

I can comfirm that the Samsung OEM PC3200 is in fact, TCCC on a Brainpower pcb. I would take pictures, but my camera batteries have neough juice for one picture per charge. It was purchased OEM from a local computer store for $38 per 512. The serial number is:

250330009 CS
64*64D40SAM32*8 B6U808
512MB DDR400
WARRANTY VOID IF REMOVED (oops)

[Vincentvega18]

Long time bump, but:

I can comfirm that the Samsung OEM PC3200 is in fact, TCCC on a Brainpower pcb. I would take pictures, but my camera batteries have neough juice for one picture per charge. It was purchased OEM from a local computer store for $38 per 512. The serial number is:

250330009 CS
64*64D40SAM32*8 B6U808
512MB DDR400
WARRANTY VOID IF REMOVED (oops)
Im pretty sure oem's usually use whatever is availiable and cheapest at the time.

[Da_maniaC]

Corsair XMS PC3200C2 Rev4.1 2-3-3-6-1T


Are these: http://www.sallandautomatisering.nl/?pid=872

The same as the ones mentioned in the startpost by The Runner?

[PowerToTheUsers]

No, the ones you mention are TWINX1024-3200C2PRO. And depending on the revision, they use different IC's, although I think the pro and non-pro did use the same IC's on the same revision.
It's hard to tell from that link that they are offering Revision 4.1...

[Da_maniaC]

OK...second try,

Does anyone know if these: http://www.pcgate.nl/product_info.php?cPath=274&products_id=3816

OCZ modules have Samsung TCCD? :)

[Da_maniaC]

I think i found the exact same modules just without any fancy led displays

http://www.icomputers.nl//product_detail.asp?A_ID=858&S_ID=412&SS_ID=776&SSS_ID=665

:)

[phi|os]

What drive strength/data drive do TCCD like?

[The_Hardstylez]

I think i found the exact same modules just without any fancy led displays

http://www.icomputers.nl//product_detail.asp?A_ID=858&S_ID=412&SS_ID=776&SSS_ID=665

:) Those have 100% Samung TCCD with a brainpower PCB :banana:

[Wired-HoH]

Those have 100% Samung TCCD with a brainpower PCB :banana:There are two completely different PCBs used in the ICs. One is sort of brainpower, but not exactly.

[billb]

Plaease add Team Xtreen TXDR512M600HC25
Heat spreaders removed, confirmed.

[dracoonpit]

Nobody seems to update the list...

Corsair CMX512-4400C25 - TCCD on Brainpower - confirmed ...

TCCD like "weak" ;)

[Wired-HoH]

Nobody seems to update the list...

Corsair CMX512-4400C25 - TCCD on Brainpower - confirmed ...

TCCD like "weak" ;)

Confirmed a LONG time ago :)

The Official Corsair IC Inquiry Thread (http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44365)

[dracoonpit]

You gotta know, wired :d

[stunned_guy]

G.Skill F1-3200DSU2-512LA with TCCD 431 inside ;)

superpi 1m maximum: 365 mhz @ 3-5-5-5 cr 1t @ 3,16 v (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill2x256f13200dsu251wk6.jpg) cooled by air...

validation is 388 mhz @ 3,23 v (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=141947)

prime rocks around 345 mhz @ 3-4-4-5 cr 1t @ 3,15 v (http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill2x256f13200dsu251fl0.jpg)

i have 2 pairs of them the next pair i will testing next time...

this sticks dont like much volt my geil one tccd loves voltage to 3,58 volt for validation with 363 mhz @ 2.5/4/4/5 (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=120581)