Ram with Samsung TCCD - Listing

[jlccarv]

The "F" just comes before the "TCCD" on the actual chip.

Thanks :up: Just like most memory labeling, i guess...

[WiCKeD]

haven't tried dual sticks yet (not dual channel since DFI NF3 250Gb is single channel board) but i suspect they're lower max ocs as always2 sticks... that's what I meant ;) Alex's overclock on page 9 showed a big difference, that's why I was wondering.

The "F" just comes before the "TCCD" on the actual chip.Ya, check Kanati's pic of his PQI on page 9, you can see what I'm talking about.

[JDizzle]

eva, how much did you pay for those?

[Confused]

Well I ended up buying the PQI. Don't have a working board to test, but from past buyers and what I can see w/o taking off the spreaders, it has all the marks of a winner. TCCD Rev.F & BP PCB Rev.808.

Wicked, unless I missed something, this is the first I heard that PQI is using the The Brain Power 808. The legit review showed the 808-but I don't recall them saying it was PQI or OCZ.

That's a good confirmation for 808.

[Kanati]

How do you identify which BP pcb it is, I have PQI turbo with heatspreaders off and I'd like to know how to identify the PCB.

[Confused]

How do you identify which BP pcb it is, I have PQI turbo with heatspreaders off and I'd like to know how to identify the PCB.

Kanati-Look at the pictures at the bottom of page 4 of this thread. They should be clearly numbered. If not numbered, the 808's appear to have much broader (ie more solder) traces.

Whether 808's perform better is speculative/subjective.

This may all be moot depending on how these new Centon pcb's (courtesy of PC ICE) perform.

[Apoptosis]

Hey guys this is Nathan Kirsch over at Legit Reviews and I wrote the memory PCB article a few weeks back (Article Link (http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=53)). Some of you have been e-mailing me asking what modules use what PCB's, so let me give you some models and numbers...

PQI Turbo Memory 3200 (PQI3200-512SBU) --> Brainpower 808
PQI Turbo Memory 3200 (PQI3200-1024DPU) --> Brainpower 815
PQI Turbo Memory 4000 (PQI4000-1024DBL) --> Brainpower 815
OCZ Platinum Rev 2 3200 (OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K) --> BrainPower 808
Corsair XMS XL 4400C2.5 (CMX512-4400C25PT) --> Brainpower 815
Corsair XMS XL 3200 (CMX512-3200) --> Brainpower 815

Below is a picture of the two most common Brainpower PCB's side by side. As you can tell the differences can be seen even if the heat spreader was left on.

http://forums.legitreviews.com/images/random/pcbs.jpg

On a side note I talked with the owner of OCZ (ryan) yesterday and he said that OCZ is also using BrainPower 808a PCB's and they are regular height, so keep an eye out for those coming in the market. As noted in this thread BP PCB's are a bit shorter, but not on the new 808a PCB's. I also talked with Corsair Memory and they confirmed that they are going to start making all their XL modules on BrainPower 815 PCB's, so expect Corsair XMS XL PC-3200 modules to have BP 815's in the next few weeks just like the Corsair XMS 4400C25's have them now.

Thanks for your e-mails and feel free to contact me if you guys ever need any memory help!

Nate

[TEDY]

thanks for valuable info Nate :)

[Confused]

On a side note I talked with the owner of OCZ (ryan) yesterday and he said that OCZ is also using BrainPower 808a PCB's and they are regular height, so keep an eye out for those coming in the market. As noted in this thread BP PCB's are a bit shorter, but not on the new 808a PCB's.
Nate


Thank you for responding Nathan.

Forum member, PC Ice, is in the process of testing some Centon TCCD modules that look new. Pictures are posted a page or 2 back in this thread. I am wondering if these may be the 808a pcb?

You have also clarified some of the PQI mystery on the differences between SBU (I assume DBU would be 808 as well) and DPU. Very helpful-thanks again.

Furthermore, given Nathan's tests were in dual channel, and PQI's SBU suffix represents a single stick, one might tentatively conclude that Nathan used the PQI DPU which is 815 PCB. And given that the OCZ was an 808 PCB, we may have empirical evidence that the 808 performs better at tighter timings and the 815 offers more bandwidth at looser timings.

If this is correct, the PQI SBU/DBU sticks are looking very good for the price if you want tight timing performance.

MM

[Apoptosis]

You are on the right track with your thoughts! I agree that from the BrainPower modules that I have (about 14 modules) that the 808 performs better at tighter timings and the 815 will offer higher bandwidth at looser timings.

[Kanati]

After looking at those pictures, I'm almost certain my gig kit of PQI Turbo is based on the 815 PCB, which would make sense b/c they don't really care for tighter timings at high fsb.

[saci]

got my twinmos tccd...

any idea why 275 @ 2x512 mb @ 2,7v @ 2,5-3-3-10 is memtest stable, but win doesn't boot?

[quicksilverXP]

Thank you for responding Nathan.

Forum member, PC Ice, is in the process of testing some Centon TCCD modules that look new. Pictures are posted a page or 2 back in this thread. I am wondering if these may be the 808a pcb?


MM


Nahh.. those Centon boards are made by Centon themselves. THey are still in testing phase and are now being sold but only under Low Latency at 5-2-2-2.. not guaranteed to overclock but guaranteed to run at LL... although they have some results simlar to all other TCCD modules on the market... and these results have been very good.. PC Ice managed to have good results with them as well. Now they have some 437 TCCDs as well as some 431s that they'll be doing more testing on to see where these chips stand. Brainpower PCBs are also being tested to see if they fare better against the Centon made 546G board.

[TEDY]

got my twinmos tccd...

any idea why 275 @ 2x512 mb @ 2,7v @ 2,5-3-3-10 is memtest stable, but win doesn't boot?

TWINMOS TWISTER PRO ?

link ?

can you post some pics

[Confused]

Nahh.. those Centon boards are made by Centon themselves. THey are still in testing phase and are now being sold but only under Low Latency at 5-2-2-2.. not guaranteed to overclock but guaranteed to run at LL... although they have some results simlar to all other TCCD modules on the market... and these results have been very good.. PC Ice managed to have good results with them as well. Now they have some 437 TCCDs as well as some 431s that they'll be doing more testing on to see where these chips stand. Brainpower PCBs are also being tested to see if they fare better against the Centon made 546G board.

Good info. Thanks.

That leaves for the mystery of the anticipated BrainPower 808a PCB combined with the mystery of TCCD revision f date codes and batch codes.

Is anyone aware of a confirmation yet that all TCCD 431 and later date codes will take higher volts? Is there any more insight to the batch codes?

[ISS]

Brain Powered PCBs not necessary better though.

I have just bought a pair of Cosair XMS3200 TwinX. Model is XMS3208v1.1, they are also using the same 0431 "F" TCCDs but the PCB is not brainpowered design. It also hit 300MHz 2.5-4-3-10 1T @ 2.85V on my MSI K8N Neo2. I also had a pair of PDP3200 using the same chips and Brainpowered 815 PCB. It also hit the same speed. The Corsair is a little interesting in that its actualy a double sided RAM (similar to their Value Winbond BH-5 sold couple of years back). Performance wise, both are literally identical.

Btw, the 815 PCB looks very similar to the Corsair Valueselect. Almost though both are the same.

[ISS]

Good info. Thanks.

That leaves for the mystery of the anticipated BrainPower 808a PCB combined with the mystery of TCCD revision f date codes and batch codes.

Is anyone aware of a confirmation yet that all TCCD 431 and later date codes will take higher volts? Is there any more insight to the batch codes?

I am not sure abt that though. I tried modding my K8N Neo2 to 3.3V but both my Corsair and PDP don't seems to work very well and both are the same 0431 'F' chips. Maybe its due to my board though

[ISS]

I just saw the pictures of the Centon Advance and I believe both are my Corsair and the Centon are using the same PCB. Even the resistor layout below the RAM chips are the same. Just that the Corsair has a little more (the Centon has couple of empty solder bumps). Eg. For RN7 and R4 (1st pic from the left), the Centon one is empty bumps but Corsair has 220 (2.2 ohms?) resistors on them.

[jlccarv]

Brain Powered PCBs not necessary better though.

I have just bought a pair of Cosair XMS3200 TwinX. Model is XMS3208v1.1...
They're XL's right?

[wildabeast]

I have the PQI DPU set and both are 808PCB. This is a newer set I got them about two weeks ago from Newegg. This is a response to someone saying that PQI's DPU is the 815PCB.

[saci]

TWINMOS TWISTER PRO ?

link ?

can you post some pics
www.cheeep.de / no cam

[240z]

I can get this pqi past 310 on my epox BUT NO 1T OVER 200 or so 2t no limit. DAMN EPOS :stick:

[WiCKeD]

240oz are you using the Blacks or Platinum PQI models?

You have also clarified some of the PQI mystery on the differences between SBU (I assume DBU would be 808 as well) and DPU. Ack acronyms... took me awhile to figure out what you were talking about, even though I own it!

So what you are saying it that, when I asked PQI if there was a difference, other than price, between their Black/Platinum models and he told me "no," that yet another know-nothing CS rep lied to me?? Very informative.

[240z]

Wicked platinum of course at 870+ an ounce why would you choose black?? Just kidding te egg had em for the same price when I ordered.I ordered platinum . And it's 240Z as in "OLD JAPANESE CAR" :banana4: with 365 at wheels :D

[WiCKeD]

Cool, and my bad ;) Are yours using the 815 pcb?

[TEDY]

so 808 is better ?

PQI Turbo Memory 4000 (PQI4000-1024DBL) --> Brainpower 815

TCCD ?

[meke]

just some bench without any tune and cpu's stock cooling.

A-data Vitesta DDR600 2.85V
I believe it can go futher with some more aggresive timings with a Vdimm mod or ddr booster :toast:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/meke_oocay/asusp5p800/sisoft/patdisabled_25335_fsb275.jpg

[jmke]

uhm those DDR600 sticks run 300Mhz by default voltage. :p

[wildabeast]

Hello everyone. I think I might have caused some confussion. Here is a link to the ram I bought from Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-148&depa=1
This is the DPU I think or did I missunderstand? If I did missunderstand then please explain to me the difference. What ever it is the pcb is 808.

[WiCKeD]

wildabeast, "DPU" is Platinum - it looks like you understood just fine. It just goes against what Apoptosis was saying on the last page. But I am sure it's entirely possible PQI switched which PCBs they were using. That would probably mean they also switched their PC4000 line as well.

[Jethro]

Ordering my Patriot 2x512 over the weekend! I post results on a Kt600 as far as highest Low latency FSB. Will report higher latency OC results with ABIT mobo and 3200+ winnie next week or so.

[ctgilles]

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19421

Just testing :D
This has nothing to do with the fact that I can't get TCCD here :D

[Alex08]

well i just got back home to pick up my pdp xbl 2x512mb that i paid $221 for.

after an hr of testng. the best i can get out of these are 283 in dual channel, which is quite impressive than my last pack which only scaled as high as 265. I use to think it was my memory controller holding me back, but i guess not. I didn't mix and match the memory sticks. I just took the ones from newegg and just popped them in and went away testing.

on all my pdp sticks that i've encountered, which is 5x512mb...they're all brainpower 815's.

[Jethro]

wow 283 in DUAL! Cant wait for mine to get here! Alex Have you tried highest LL settings?

[mackanz]

I can add that the OCZ 3700 EL Platinum uses Brainpower 808 pcb's and they love voltage :D
Both sticks are prime stable at 300+ and 3.22 vdimm. I was able to do a banzai of th worst one at 307 as you see in the screeny. The other screeny is 2X512 priming just fine on the DFI UT. Fantastic memory i must say.

[Alex08]

wow 283 in DUAL! Cant wait for mine to get here! Alex Have you tried highest LL settings?

the sad thing is i can't run 2-2-2-5 @ 200. freezes in windows.

[Th3__W00T_GuY__]

Am I right, that the Twinmos Twister Pro has TCCD chips? u guys think they're compatible with my asus a8v deluxe rev 2.0 and winni 3000+?
or should i better keep my 512 corsair xms pc3200 with rev 4.3 and 1.2

[Jethro]

Ill have to see what mine do @ 2 2 2 5 with kt600 i hope it even works in the board!. I wont be getting my 939 system for a week or so. I am excited to see whats left in this KV7 before i get rid of it! She's been a fast machine for little $ indeed!

[Jethro]

excellent Patriot ram breakdown:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/print/patriot.html

@ $221 for a gig for XBL Dual channel you really cant go wrong! :)

Never noticed the 3200+ on the ram before.

[jlccarv]

Can or cant?

[TEDY]

@ $221 for a gig for XBL Dual channel you really cant go wrong! = can't

meaning you get what you pay for....aka good ram for excellent price

[L@TrO]

take a look at this ;)

users.skynet.be/bk265593/sis.JPG @ 3-4-4-8
With 2.5-3-3-7 its slable @ ddr630 (mem= gskill pc4800)

[Zeus]

take a look at this ;)

users.skynet.be/bk265593/sis.JPG @ 3-4-4-8
With 2.5-3-3-7 its slable @ ddr630 (mem= gskill pc4800)

Has got to be 2T.
2T isn't worth sh*t when it comes to performance.
Show us your max with 1T please. ;)

[JDizzle]

I just got my PDP XBL in and did some quick testing. This is the highest HTT I could get with 2-2-2-5 and 2.9v(my boards max).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Johnieboi/2873d37e.jpg

These results are completely stable, I ran memtest overnight with 0 errors.

[nordik]

add one to the list
Corsair TwinX1024-4400C25PT XMS: Samsung 440 K4H560838F-TCCD
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=85&num=2


Brainpower PCB right? :stick:

[RacerX]

Has got to be 2T.
2T isn't worth sh*t when it comes to performance.
Show us your max with 1T please. ;)

Trust me when I say his MSI K8N Neo won't allow him to run 1t much over 260htt.

[jlccarv]

@ $221 for a gig for XBL Dual channel you really cant go wrong! = can't

meaning you get what you pay for....aka good ram for excellent price

He edited it.. the 'cant' was 'can' before...

[L@TrO]

Trust me when I say his MSI K8N Neo won't allow him to run 1t much over 260htt.

yea ,thats right . With T1 setting i realy can't get it stable. I think its a crap bord... But with t2 i don't have any problems gettings 'high' .

[Catalan]

the sad thing is i can't run 2-2-2-5 @ 200. freezes in windows.

Is that with ALL pdp sticks you've tested because I'm on my 3rd RMA from newegg for the PQI3200-1024DPU sticks and one stick always received errors at 2-2-2-5.

[Alex08]

Is that with ALL pdp sticks you've tested because I'm on my 3rd RMA from newegg for the PQI3200-1024DPU sticks and one stick always received errors at 2-2-2-5.

nope my other 3 sticks of 512mb don't have a problem running 2-2-2-5.

[Bluebeard]

u can add TwinMOS TwiSTER pro also to TCCD list ;)

[WiCKeD]

Is that with ALL pdp sticks you've tested because I'm on my 3rd RMA from newegg for the PQI3200-1024DPU sticks and one stick always received errors at 2-2-2-5.Hmm I had to give my PQI Black 2.8v to boot into windows @ 2-2-2-5 @ 200fsb on an XP system... Seems to be stable, but I'm not even sure it is! Maybe that's just the XP system? May have to RMA mine as well...

[Jethro]

even if they run 2 2 2 7 1t @ 200 id be happy! Get mine tomorrow will test!

[JDizzle]

nope my other 3 sticks of 512mb don't have a problem running 2-2-2-5.
Wow you've had 5 sticks of 512mb PDP? Did you have to RMA a bunch of times or what? So far I can't even get to 250 HTT with timings 2.5-4-4. According to their webiste I should be able to do that with 2.5-3-3. Looks like I'm going to have to RMA.

[Xerxes]

i recieved my pqi 3200 dbu today its using the bp808 pcb

[viccyran]

Wow you've had 5 sticks of 512mb PDP? Did you have to RMA a bunch of times or what? So far I can't even get to 250 HTT with timings 2.5-4-4. According to their webiste I should be able to do that with 2.5-3-3. Looks like I'm going to have to RMA.
Said it once, I'll say it again, try running one stick, and seeing how it does. It just might be your mem controller..

[Joe Camel]

got my G Skill (from eXcaliberPC (http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?cPath=163_520_789&products_id=4242) ) today :)

chips are ALL (that i can see):

437
K4H560838F


but the (hard to read #s) are NOT all the same:

456 8 BMG 159 P1
...............160 PX
...............109 XX
...............197 BB
...............147 P2
...............175 P2
...............099 PX
...............138 B4

dont have my CPU or HSF yet, so i cant tell ya how they clock (all will be here friday along with some Mushkin 222 v2 :banana: )

[Jethro]

got mine! after moving em around a bit they are indeed stable @ 2 2 2 6 1t !! woohoo!

so far have benched up to 237x11.5 2 3 2 7 2t 3500/3250+ mb's ! Not sure what im gonna run em at yet but i like the high FSB cas 2 vs low fsb 1t operation so far. very finicky rams with the kt600 board but i am finding new limits!

WOuld it be better to rip the heatspreaders off? They seem to just make em warmer to me.

[seb87]

i must buy 2x512 mb of ram........

but i have 2 kit

OCZ PC4400 EL

or

geil pc 4400


what is the best for oc???

[makatee]

Not being a flame starter at all, I just wanted to remind you to search first because there are a bunch of these types of posts. For my opnion, the OCZ will be better

[Noktar]

Every Mem with TCCD Chips on it !!!

for example: Corsair Rev 4.1 Pc 3200 (there is a Thread here)
They did 340mhz with only 3v !

[burnhead]

Every Mem with TCCD Chips on it !!!

for example: Corsair Rev 4.1 Pc 3200 (there is a Thread here)
They did 340mhz with only 3v ! i searched for this thread, but i didn´t find it... what is the exact name of the Corsairs?

[easypanic]

Just pick a mem that you see in the Sticky "ram with TCCD-chips"...

I myself have Vitesta stickies, very good :D.

[jlccarv]

Every Mem with TCCD Chips on it !!!

for example: Corsair Rev 4.1 Pc 3200 (there is a Thread here)
They did 340mhz with only 3v !

Not mine. They wont memtest at anything over 240MHz 2.5-3-3-10, at any voltage of 2.8v and under.

But they are good for 217MHz 2-2-2-10 @ 2.8v single 512MHz stick...

[existz]

ive read the hole thread and could'nt find this, but can someone confirm that the pdp 256mb 5-2-2-2 sticks have tccd also ??

[jlccarv]

First page:

"Patriot Extreme Performance PDC5123200+XBLK ~ Brainpower PCB"

:D

[existz]

thats the 512 , i was wonderin if the 256 was the same :)

[Xerxes]

anyone live near a fry's? Im like 45min away and dont want to drive it and be disappointed but when i called and asked about the 2x512 patriot/pdp xbl the guy on the phone said it was out of stock but it would normally be $179.99

[TEDY]

pdp xl can't be 179,99

[viccyran]

I dont think so. Last time I checked fry's (Fremont CA), it was 260 + tax. :(

[Kanati]

I've seen some PDP at Fry's for that price, but it wasn't XBL, it was the regular LL stuff. The heatspreader looks the same so maybe the clerk got confused.

[qk4722]

I get G-Skill new pc4800 TCCD Dual 2.7v 2.5-3-3-5 1T....... :toast:

[viccyran]

I get G-Skill new pc4800 TCCD Dual 2.7v 2.5-3-3-5 1T....... :toast:
Try 2.5-3-3-7 with those puppies. I'm hitting that kinda BW on 275 2.5-3-3-7 on a .5 multi :(

[quicksilverXP]

That PC4800 isn't 2x512 right?

[FrozenGPU]

Got some pqi turbo from newegg. Just ran a few tests for now. Runs 270 2.5-3-3-8 @ 2.7v with HTT x4.

[ojdr2001]

OCZ PC4200 EL PE 2x512 DC

Only 2,85V 1T

MSI 939 + FX55

http://www.ojdr2001.com/tccd295.jpg

[computersmsa]

Hello,

The ADATA PC4800, is Hynix B or TCCD
I have receive two stick ... one TCCD and one Hynix B :stick:

Stick A

Vdimm = 2.8V
210 Mhz 2-2-2-5
251 Mhz 2-3-3-5
269 Mhz 2.5-3-3-6
318 Mhz 2.5-4-3-6
Vdimm = 3.1V
Pareil, voir 2 Mhz en plus :D
TCCD detecded


Stick B

Vdimm = 2.8V
2-2-2-5 pas possible
253 Mhz 2-3-3-5
270 Mhz 2.5-3-6
Vdimm = 3.1V
265 Mhz 2-3-3-5
281 Mhz 2.5-3-3-6
Timing de merde pour monter plus haut ...

Pas TCCD, donc Hynix B :(

:mad:

Please, buy PC4500 ADATA, and not PC4800 ...
PC4800 is most expensif, and not better, and risk og have Hynix B :mad:

[qk4722]

good job

My Apacer TCCD Real500 Dual 2.7v 2.5-4-4-8 DDR600 1T p95 runing :banana:

OCZ PC4200 EL PE 2x512 DC

Only 2,85V 1T

MSI 939 + FX55

http://www.ojdr2001.com/tccd295.jpg

[chinabox]

these are my 2x512 adata pc4800 running 200mhz 2-2-2-5 1T 2.8v
gonna push the system later today since i just got this 90nm baby
and my "old" 130nm didnt go further than 10x265

think my bios is a lil buggy tho and im gonna try seeing what the new 1.4b1 bios does :)

[Jethro]

Patriot XBL is some juice loving ram indeed now that ive went 2 2 2 7 timings @ 222FSB with 2.85 volts it doesnt want to run well at any less voltage:eek: ! Anyone wanna sell a booster :D

[TEDY]

anyone has better picture of A-DATA DDR 566 module ?

any sticker sticked on it ?

[burnhead]

@jethro: your sig?? --- Aud2-->Aud2 hack --- what is that? what does it do? an how can i do it?

[computersmsa]

anyone has better picture of A-DATA DDR 566 module ?

any sticker sticked on it ?
http://www.bel-hardware.be/a64moc_1.html

[Jethro]

It allows me to use latest Audigy2 software and drivers on my card. i dont have link but you should be able to find linkage via google man. :) The mod is worth doing IMO for the better performing drivers alone.

[TEDY]

http://www.bel-hardware.be/a64moc_1.html

:toast:

[burnhead]

what is being done with doing that mod? and why can´t you use this latest drivers on your brand new audigy 2?

[jmke]

for the Audigy questions: http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10115&highlight=audigy

[xviz]

just got this mail from twinmos (regarding BP)

Hello,

we use no Brainpower PCB but our TwiSTER pro showed in different tests that they don´t have to hide behind BP PCB modules.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards,
Alexander Rüdinger

:rolleyes:

[zett]

how high does average tccd goes with 2-2-2-5 1t ,and whats the max volt can it be used for daily use?


my system:

A64 3000+@2,7 ghz daily with waterbox
Epox 8KDA3J with vdimm moded
ocz pc3200 platinium rev 2.

[jjcom]

average....I'd guess something like 250-240s...I'd give em about 2.8v or so. Altho it might not go that high on that tight of timings, but those TCCD sticks sure seem to be doing well.

[burnhead]

How is A-DATA DDR 566 doing? And are they Brainpower PCB?

[Jethro]

the best mine will do @ 2 2 2 7 is 225 FSB but my kt600 board is very sensitive to mem timings. it responds to em really well also ;). Currently @ 2 2 3 7 @ 235 FSB 2.85v

[Naughtyboy]

Is there any way to tell if the sticks has BrainPower PCB or not...????

[Xerxes]

yeah it says right on the end of the pcb so you dont even have to take the heatspreader off. for instance my pqi says b6u808 which is the 808 pb pcb :)

[halcyon]

Read through the whole of this thread, but couldn't find anyone, but gotta ask:

Anybody tried 2 x 1024 MB (= 2GB total) on any A64 board with TCCD chips?

What speed / latencies did you manage to squeeze out of them?

[Jethro]

the Patriot XBL is indeed the 815 pcb. thanks for the tip xerxes!

[jjcom]

I've got OCZ DDR400 EL RAM...I'm trying to remember what type of chip it has....it might be BH-5 but I don't remember....any idea?

[j0j0]

have someone tested this ones ?
http://www.oc-wear.de/pd2053558574.htm?categoryId=26
the price is not too bad...

[TEDY]

have someone tested this ones ?
http://www.oc-wear.de/pd2053558574.htm?categoryId=26
the price is not too bad...

not bad

DDR400 CL 2-2-2-5 @2,6V
DDR466 CL 2-3-3-5 @2,8V
DDR533 CL 2,5-3-3-5 @2,8V
DDR560 CL 3-4-4-8 @ 2,8V

[Susquehannock]

From the looks of it the "E" TCCD overclock a tad better then the "F".

Anyone know which BP the G.skill "LE" modules are using? 808 or 815?

Trying to decide before buying. ..... ThanX :D

[blsnelling]

I'm considering the following modules. Which would be most likely to get me to 300? Do not consider the price in your recommendation. I want the best memory. These should all be TCCD with BrainPower PCBs. Some are 808 and others 815.

PQI PC4000 - Brainpower 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-138&depa=1

PQI PC3200 - Brainpower 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-148&depa=1

Corsair XMS 4400 - Brainpower 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-550&depa=1

OCZ PC3200 - Brainpower 808
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-890&depa=1

Patriot PC3200 - 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-033&depa=1

[TEDY]

from when PQI PC4000 is TCCD ?

you copied links wrong hehe

[Susquehannock]

from when PQI PC4000 is TCCD ?

you copied links wrong hehe

Use "Brainpower 815"
It was confirmed by Nathan from Legit Reviews on page #11. :D
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=595902#post595902

[blsnelling]

Links fixed.

[perkam]

Links fixed.

Ok guys, we have to stop not noticing new members here !!!

Hey BLSNELLING:

:banana: :p: :banana: Welcome To XS, BLSNELLING !!!
Home of Macci, Fugger, Opp, Saaya, Pedro, and MORE !! :p: :banana: :p:

Oh and your queries will be accordingly answered (dont remembered what they were lol)

Perkam

[jjcom]

why "...stop noticing new members here" Welcome to XS BLSNELLING! Feel free to PM anyone with questions... Just think, we've got The Stilt, Saaya, Tic Tac, Fugger...all these great minds in one place to overclock!

[TEDY]

o yeah welcome here ...my bad :)

[k+++]

I uesd a-data DDR500 (D5)1:1 ram=275 v2.7 CL33310 :banana:

[existz]

can this be confirmed as tccd ??

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-140&depa=1

EDIT nevermind if i would have read a few lines up i would have seen this , damnit sorry guys

[HMB]

Hello,

The ADATA PC4800, is Hynix B or TCCD
I have receive two stick ... one TCCD and one Hynix B :stick:



:mad:

Please, buy PC4500 ADATA, and not PC4800 ...
PC4800 is most expensif, and not better, and risk og have Hynix B :mad: How did you detect that its TCCD?

[burnhead]

Hey!

Which RAM would you go for: A-Data DDR566(TCCD) or OCZ PC4200 (also TCCD)...

PLZ help...

[blsnelling]

Ok guys, we have to stop not noticing new members here !!!

Hey BLSNELLING:

:banana: :p: :banana: Welcome To XS, BLSNELLING !!!
Home of Macci, Fugger, Opp, Saaya, Pedro, and MORE !! :p: :banana: :p:

Oh and your queries will be accordingly answered (dont remembered what they were lol)

Perkam
WOW!! I've never felt so welcome in my life. Now, which memory should I buy :) ?

PQI PC4000 - Brainpower 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...-141-138&depa=1

PQI PC3200 - Brainpower 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...-141-148&depa=1

Corsair XMS 4400 - Brainpower 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...-145-550&depa=1

OCZ PC3200 - Brainpower 808
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...-146-890&depa=1

Patriot PC3200 - 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...-220-033&depa=1

[TEDY]

you can't missed with either of them

you can find also OCZ EL 3700 or 4200...hehe

[Jesus]

I'd go whith the PQI if money is an object. But more likely with the Corsair.

[jjcom]

I'm an OCZ fan so I'd buy that, or the Patroit RAM. Both look fine, Corsair puts out nice RAM as well, so I'd just go for the cheapest.


jjcom

[existz]

How did you detect that its TCCD?

post #358

[blsnelling]

I've always been a Corsair XMS fan. I just received payment for my CMX512-3500C2. Shipping it to the Phillipines for $350. Shipping should be about $20, so I've got enough to buy the best. Can any of you give me a reason to buy something other than the Corsair XMS4400? Is the $220 Patriot just as good. I realize it's the same TCCD chips on the BrainPower 815 PCBs. I'm just trying to break this idea that the Corsair will be better.?????

[HMB]

post #358 Huh? Im not following :confused:

[existz]

on post #358 ,blsnelling, said the pqi pc4000 has brainpower 815 tccd and Nathan also confirmed, http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=595902#post595902

[Pimp!]

ive had mushkin pc3200 lvl2 rev2 for about month or two now, and havent been happy with them at all

right now running at 216 async on neo2 2-2-2-5 1T @ 2.85v (max on mobo)

with 2t i could go to 260 (loose timings)but at like 3.2v and i see others going that high on like 2.8v

ordered some PDP xbl stuff just now with ocz booster, hoping for best.

[The Runner]

hey fellas, sorry I haven't updated my post in a while, been very busy :(

I'm thinking of picking up some Samsung PC3200 TCCC, someone posted results here and it wasnt bad at all...

£90 all in.

unless of course Gskill is in the uk yet...

[TEDY]

the runner update list please :D

[MaRtIe]

The Runner, as your in the uk.. have you thought of looking into geil pc3200 ultra X? ime in uk and i saw a nice review where some people got DDR600 out of them on relaxed timings? :D

[Micutzu]

Is this (http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_twister_pro_dualchannel_ddr400.htm) for sure TCCD? Anyone tried it? How is it compared to the A-Data Vitesta PC4000 (http://www.adata.com.tw/en/p-d1-03.htm) ?

[TEDY]

yes micutzu it's TCCD

[over@locker886]

What? A-DATA 500Mhz with TCCD chipes?

[Micutzu]

I was asking about the Twinmos Twister in the link ... A-Data PC4000 is not TCCD ;).
Thanks TEDY.

[over@locker886]

Thx, then I need buy 566Mhz A-DATA.

[meke]

After the vdimm mod, I am succeded to get 225 fsb 1:1 dual 2-2-2-5 timings for my Vitesta ddr600's @3.6 v.

[Jethro]

how much vdimm meke? i can only do 217 2 2 2 7 but i only need 2.7v

[Pimp!]

he said 3.6v

[Jethro]

dagum thats alot of juice! :eek: guess not for xtreme :)

[meke]

I connect the 3.3 V rail directly to dimms as Vo=Vdimm mod.
My Ocz 520 can give up to 3.8V to 3.3 Rail, I tried it, but my cpu is burning, so I couldn't go more than 225 fsb.

Yesterday, I was succesfull to boot 240 fsb 1:1 DUAL 2-2-2-5 @ 3.6 V but windows restarted.

[piddan]

Hi everybody!

I'm in the market for a new mainboard and some new memories! I already have an Athlon64 3400+ (Clawhammer) I haven't ocerclocked it yet, so I'm just wondering if it overclocks fairly good ? Because I can't decide wether to purchase PC4500, from A-DATA, PC4000 BallistiX or BallistiX PC3200. If it overclocks allright, I'll purchase either the PC4500 from A-DATA, or the PC4000 BallistiX, otherwise I'll stick to the PC3200. So, what should I do ? :) Btw, the new mainboard will probably be DFI Lanpart UT.

Best wishes,
Piddan

[funkflix]

Hi!

Which TCCD Sticks can handle a Vdimm @ ~ 3,3V? And do they go then
up 280 MHz anyway?

@meke

Have the same mod as u, maybe u can tell me something about it! :)

[Pimp!]

rar finally got my PDP xbl pc3200 in computer after being out all day. reached 290 @ 2.5-3-3-7 1T @ 2.75v (didnt try higher)

brought it back down to 10x263 @ 2.5-3-3-7 1T @ 2.65v for best memory bandwidth

[TEDY]

pimp what system ?

nice score !!!

[Dead Dog]

had some patriot pc3200+XBLK arrive this morning :slobber:
it will be going in my NF7 for now, but was reaaly bought for a soon to own A64 set-up.
haven't/aren't taking h/s off, but it goes have brain power 815 PCB's

****QUESTION*****
i won't need to mod the ram volts on the NF7, as TCCD doesn't need much, but will i need to mod the volts to the northbridge, to handle hopefully 250+ fsb??
if so can some kind person supply a link ?
:toast:

[Pimp!]

pimp what system ?

nice score !!!

3200+ winchester
msi k8n neo2 plat
bfg 6800gt
patriot pc3200 xbl 2x512


was able to boot at 310 @ 3-4-4-8 then tried 315 but speaker kept making beep sounds and didnt boot.

[The Runner]

i found some G.Skill in the UK, stupid prices though when 1gb pc4000 ballistix is 173 inc delivery, its 211 for g.skill w/o delivery. I thought these were going to be cheap? Lame tbh.

I'll update this post when I get time, currently I am snowed under :(

[MaRtIe]

ekkk that sucks.. ime in the uk and need TCCD :confused: got my eyes on geil TCCD :)

[The Runner]

how well does that geil perform? Isnt bad at £182 for 1gb.

[MaRtIe]

most places touched around DDR600.. :banana:

i want i i want hehe its like £100 for 2x256< wich ile probably get. they used 2.85v in a review to get to 300mhz FSB.. was test stable :toast:

EDIT: http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2226&p=11

[jjcom]

had some patriot pc3200+XBLK arrive this morning :slobber:
it will be going in my NF7 for now, but was reaaly bought for a soon to own A64 set-up.
haven't/aren't taking h/s off, but it goes have brain power 815 PCB's

****QUESTION*****
i won't need to mod the ram volts on the NF7, as TCCD doesn't need much, but will i need to mod the volts to the northbridge, to handle hopefully 250+ fsb??
if so can some kind person supply a link ?
:toast:


250mhz FSB :eek: not many NF7 boards can do that. You would need a modded BIOS some real nice NB cooling and lots of luck. Those boards don't seem to fly at high FSB...maybe try the DFI Lanparty out for that

jjcom

[MaRtIe]

yea i know a guy who is at a 240FSB wall.. :( on a NF7

[The Runner]

now I seen some ocz pc3200 rev 2 for £187...

so I have a choice of,

Crucial Ballistix pc4000 2x512 £173
Geil UltraX pc3200 2x512 £182
OCZ Pc3200 rev2 2x512 £187...

[MaRtIe]

thats a tuff one eh? ;)

[Dead Dog]

************
so I have a choice of,
************


add patriot to that £ 158 delivered :banana: tekheads!

i'm at 243, 245 seemed a tad near the edge!
nb is watercolled btw

[The Runner]

its £163 for me?

What setup you got dead dog ? nvm i found out, so thats a mobo bottleneck not the ram.

Shame its £5 dearer now, but I guess its worth it.

[sr4470]

Ive seen GeIL pc4000 ultra CL2.5 2x512 for £164...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Dual_Channel_Kits.html

[Th3__W00T_GuY__]

i get my ocz pc 3200 platinum el rev 2 tomorrow :) u think that i'll get brainpower pcb? and how can i find out without taking the heatspreader off? i heard they like more V :) good 4 my booster :D

[wildabeast]

Hey W00T, I just got mine in the other day and it was 808pcb. To be honest all OCZ PC3200 Plat. EL Rev.2 are on the 808pcb. To find out though is at the ends of your ram modules you'll see at the very egde a marking that will say 808 on it. I have not really tried mine out much yet. settin' at 255FSB 2.5-3-3-10 with 2.6volts.

[Dead Dog]

its £163 for me?

What setup you got dead dog ? nvm i found out, so thats a mobo bottleneck not the ram.

Shame its £5 dearer now, but I guess its worth it.

i got =
nf7 - rev2, xp-m2500, patriot ram(now!!),9800 flashed'n thrashed, antec true power 550, lrww cpu block, z-chip n/b block, swiftech mcp300, home rad rads w/2x120mm fans - which can be seen here (http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17301309&highlight=home+made+water)

the xp-m is @ about 2557 (10x243) right now.

yes the mobo is with out doubt the bottleneck :stick:
but as said it's more for a soon to own a64 set-up :cool:

[meke]

Hi!

@meke

Have the same mod as u, maybe u can tell me something about it! :)


Excuse me, I didn't check this thread for a while.

Actually we only have Adata Vitesta TCCD rams in here, so I can guarantee you that Adata-Vitesta's 566 and 600 ones uses TCCD and they can handle up to 3.7-3.8 V.

But to be honest, I could not see any difference yet between 3.2 to 3.8.

3.2 also gives me 240 fsb 2225 unstable and 225 2225 stable. :D

[meke]

And also DDR600 can run up to 275 fsb 1:1 2.5-3-3-5 @ 2.85 V. :D

[Maelstrom2160]

whats the cheapest tccd you can get with no spreaders?

[funkflix]

http://www.oc-wear.de/pd2053558574.htm?categoryId=26

http://www.oc-wear.de/shippingcosts.htm

:) Maybe it is cheap for u, dunno the prices in UK!

Thats are OCZ TCCD but untested from them and without Heatspreaders!
oc-wear.de is the officiall distri. in germany for OCZ!

DDR400 CL 2-2-2-5 @2,6V
DDR466 CL 2-3-3-5 @2,8V
DDR533 CL 2,5-3-3-5 @2,8V
DDR560 CL 3-4-4-8 @ 2,8V

[Susquehannock]

whats the cheapest tccd you can get with no spreaders?

Prefer your RAM naked too huh?
Never cared for those heatspreaders. What's available besides Gskill? Would like
to try a detachable spring loaded heatsink mounting system. = heat disipators ... ;)

[funkflix]

What's available besides Gskill?

U looked at my post? :rolleyes:

[Susquehannock]

U looked at my post? :rolleyes:

Yes, thank you. :)
That was European page, and haven't seen that brand here in the States.
Ordered the Gskill 'GBLE' from NewEgg.com. With instant rebate it was cheaper
than what other vendors over here are charging. And no silly heatspreaders. :D

[funkflix]

Hmmm ... Ok, I want to tell u all something ... Don' buy the OCZ 3700EL PE, they do well on there rated speed ,
but at 270 2.5-3-3-7 2T they give 19000(!!) Errors at Memtest! ;) No, there is noting more, i'm back on my BH5 and all works fine! :eek:

[a5h]

http://www.oc-wear.de/pd2053558574.htm?categoryId=26

http://www.oc-wear.de/shippingcosts.htm

:) Maybe it is cheap for u, dunno the prices in UK!

Thats are OCZ TCCD but untested from them and without Heatspreaders!
oc-wear.de is the officiall distri. in germany for OCZ! the site doesn't say they are from OCZ, how do you know this? they are really cheap tho .. :)

[funkflix]

the site doesn't say they are from OCZ, how do you know this? they are really cheap tho .. :)

U know some other TCCD without Heatsreader? Yes the original Samsungs, but
u can't buy them in europe! ;) And oc-wear have very good connections to
OCZ ... Just 1 + 1 ;)

http://www.ocztechnology.com/wheretobuy/distributors/all/europe#Germany

[a5h]

does OCZ say this or do u just say this?

[a5h]

whats the difference between the different brainpower PCBs? 808, 815, 808a ...which one is best?

also which G.skill TCCD are the best? ...so many kinds.

[funkflix]

does OCZ say this or do u just say this?

imho ;)

[Perc]

hey guys nice thread just read all 17 pages :p: ok i have a few questions?? first off i just picked up a pair of 256 patriot 3200 with the xbl tech. they have the bp815 pcb and the chips have this on them for numbers samsung 440 K4H560838F TCCD now i can tell they have the "F" but i dont see where you guys are getting the 0437 from? how do i tell if i have 37 or later? also i have a pair of eb3500 platnuim from ocz and they have the 808 bp pcb does that mean these have tccd chips also or is it also possible to get a bp pcb without tccd chips? sorry if any of my questions were answered in previous pages...

*edit* is it the 3 digit number next to samsung that you guyare talking about? in my case it would be 440.. also these patriot memorys did 220 defualt voltage in my msi neo2 dual channel 2-2-2-5 before i had to loosen the timmings to 2.5-3-3-5 to go higher.. i havent maxed them out yet so i dont have any other numbers for you. im currently at 240 yeah i know thats nothing to write home about but i will max these out and let you guys know what i get out of these patriot memorys...

thx perc,

[Zanr Zij]

Hi all ! :)
Which G.Skill is best 4 OC ( highest FSB ) with 2.5-3-3-7, 1T timing ? PC4800 or PC4400 ?

With The BrainPower PCB ( PC4400 ) : LC (http://www.gskill.com/pc4400-pc3200-tccd-2-2-2-5-dc.html) or LE (http://www.gskill.com/pc4400-2.5-3-3-7-pc3200-tccd-2-2-2-5-dc.html) or LF (http://www.gskill.com/pc4400-2.5-3-3-7-pc3200-tccd-2-3-3-6-dc.html) ?

Thanks 2 all !

[Zeus]

Hi all ! :)
Which G.Skill is best 4 OC ( highest FSB ) with 2.5-3-3-7, 1T timing ? PC4800 or PC4400 ?

With The BrainPower PCB ( PC4400 ) : LC (http://www.gskill.com/pc4400-pc3200-tccd-2-2-2-5-dc.html) or LE (http://www.gskill.com/pc4400-2.5-3-3-7-pc3200-tccd-2-2-2-5-dc.html) or LF (http://www.gskill.com/pc4400-2.5-3-3-7-pc3200-tccd-2-3-3-6-dc.html) ?

Thanks 2 all !

Best results seem to come from the LE version.
Check out the forums on Gskill.com and also the Coolaler forums.

[a5h]

which one of these 2 would any of you guys chose? (they are both relatively the same price):

1. OCZ PC3200 EL Platinum Rev.2 Dual channel 1024MB kit
2. G.SKILL PC4400/3200 F1-3200DSU2-1GBLE 1024MB kit

[jlccarv]

hey guys nice thread just read all 17 pages :p: ok i have a few questions?? first off i just picked up a pair of 256 patriot 3200 with the xbl tech. they have the bp815 pcb and the chips have this on them for numbers samsung 440 K4H560838F TCCD now i can tell they have the "F" but i dont see where you guys are getting the 0437 from? how do i tell if i have 37 or later? also i have a pair of eb3500 platnuim from ocz and they have the 808 bp pcb does that mean these have tccd chips also or is it also possible to get a bp pcb without tccd chips? sorry if any of my questions were answered in previous pages...

thx perc,

You have 0440 TCCD :)

[Perc]

You have 0440 TCCD :)


ok so it is the 4 digit nember thats written after the samsung name. cool thx man...

peace perc,

[Zanr Zij]

Best results seem to come from the LE version.
Check out the forums on Gskill.com and also the Coolaler forums.


Thanks... ! 1GB or 512MB ( 2 stick ) is better ? Thanks ag'n ! :toast:

[Zeus]

2x256 will most likely clock higher than 2x512 but if you are into gaming 2x512 would be a better choice.
For benchmarking 2x256 will be best. ;)

[NonProphets]

I just bought the patriot 512-3200 XBLK, I was wondering if i can run 3.3 v into them w/ out frying them? whats the average voltage you guy seen throughout this 17 page thread.

[kops]

I just bought the patriot 512-3200 XBLK, I was wondering if i can run 3.3 v into them w/ out frying them? whats the average voltage you guy seen throughout this 17 page thread.

Doing 2-3-3-6 wif 2.9 @ 250, 2.5-3-3-6 wif 2.65 @ 280. Clocks equally well on both Intel and AMD platform.

gd stuff :banana:

[MaRtIe]

actually its 18 pages :p: hehe

[Firefoxx]

My PQI 3200 Rev.3 Turbo are doing 300Mhz 1:1 at S478, pretty good ram, i think i can pull out more, but my it's my mobo's end. Ah, and I was running with 3,3V, Brainpower PCB and TCCD437.

[Benny Lodewijk]

http://www.geocities.com/benny_nejkt/270x10_adata600_sandra2.txt

GA-K8NSUltra-939 F5 BIOS out if the box, air cooling, vdimm 2.7 volt

[TEDY]

Nobody bought APACER ?

[oiler]

So, after reading all of the threads about the TCCD chips, if you still had the choice between BH-5 and TCCD, which would you get?

[funkflix]

I'm back from TCCD to the BH5!

[Zanr Zij]

So, after reading all of the threads about the TCCD chips, if you still had the choice between BH-5 and TCCD, which would you get?


TCCD Brain Power PCB only...

BH-5 with OCZ DDR Booster.. :toast:

[daysleeper]

any experiences about these sticks=> http://cheeep.de/chips.php?op=modload&name=cheeep_shop&file=description&II=971&IDU=2004120908520482.141.84.98...i`m planning to order those sticks for my msi neo2 plat

[stelleg151]

it says the geil ultrax 3200 is, howabout the 4000? anyone know, I am a bit weary about taking the heatspreaders off because they have the temp things, worried about pulling out a cord or two.

[TEDY]

i will get APACER PC4000 today ...110€ only :P

[Naasar]

i got mine yesterday.(patriot 3200 xbl 2x512) it has thte 815 pcb. well so far i guess its OK. its burnin in now at 2.5,3,3,11 @ 2.7v. i tell u guys like my old sammy ram this stuff doesnt like voltage at all. it can run like 225 at 2,2,2,11 but thats as far as she would go at those timings. my 3d 2k1 scores are down abit but other programs dont seem to be affected but the slower timings. oh its burning in at 241mhz. same speed i was using with my bh-5s forever now.

i will keep u guys posted on whether or not some burning in will help me get those 2,2,2 timings for 240 fsb.

i dam hope so, the system still seems alittle spunkier with the additional ram. :rolleyes:

[The Runner]

a little bit of advise guys, i currently have 2x256mb ocz pc3500 ltd ed bh5 ram, shud i get a ocz booster and use them for a bit longer? Or get 2x512mb patriot xbl memory. I game alot.

spec as in sig.

Ill have a look thru this thread now and update accordingly.

[Xenom0rph]

I am about to buy 2x512MB OCZ EL Platinum Dual Channel PC3200 Rev.2

Will these hit 300Mhz 2.5-3-3 @ 3v ?

[Naasar]

I am about to buy 2x512MB OCZ EL Platinum Dual Channel PC3200 Rev.2

Will these hit 300Mhz 2.5-3-3 @ 3v ?

in ur sig u run ur abit at 250? what is ur chipset voltage?

[The Runner]

I am about to buy 2x512MB OCZ EL Platinum Dual Channel PC3200 Rev.2

Will these hit 300Mhz 2.5-3-3 @ 3v ?

somehow I doubt that.

Its pot luck at the end of the day, you'll need an overall good system to achieve this, 1 item wont make or break it, you need a overall good system that can achieve this mhz.

[Obitus]

which one of these 2 would any of you guys chose? (they are both relatively the same price):

1. OCZ PC3200 EL Platinum Rev.2 Dual channel 1024MB kit
2. G.SKILL PC4400/3200 F1-3200DSU2-1GBLE 1024MB kit
I just bought the G.Skill F1-3200DSU2-512LE today. I should have it by 3pm tomorrow. Can't wait to see what this stuff will do. :D

[Xenom0rph]

My NF7-S is running with vdd=1.7v in BIOS, it has no MODs at the moment.

I am planning to buy 2x512MB OCZ EL Plat PC3200 Rev2 for 2 reasons:

1) My system NEEDS 1 Gig RAM NOW !!
2) I will buy a DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D and a Winchester 3500+ in a few months, so i will use high FSBs then.

I would want to have 300FSB (or more :D) with good timings. I have seen some images posted here with rams @ 310Mhz 2.5-3-3 or so with 3v vdimm, and I think DFI NF4 mobo will do over 3v.

So, what RAM should I buy? 2x512MB of course...

Thanks.

PD: Me and my friend Zerox (with DFI NF3 250GB and Claw 3400+) wanna buy the RAMs today, so please reply me as soon as you can. Which RAM is the best for these systems?

[Hanu]

I bought 2x512 A-Data Vitesta 566. Reason? Quite good price and chance for HTT 300 sync. Now i'm using A7N8X Dlx ( NF2 ) + Barton@2530MHz , but in next months i'm planning to buy DFI NF4 + Winchester 3200+. DFI offers Vmem above 3,2 V and I think, that @300Mhz will be quite possible.

[Xenom0rph]

Well i can buy A-Data DDR600 at a good price and be sure that i will reach 300 FSB. But i don't know if OCZ EL Plat 3200 Rev2 will have better timings @ 300Mhz than A-Data's. Please, i need help :(

[Kriller]

Ordered 2x512 A-DATA PC4500 DDR566 and sold my BH-5, my 2x512 BH-5 couldn't pass 220 stable no mather what...

[daysleeper]

Well now there is available a dual channel kit with tccd-chips http://cheeep.de/chips.php?op=modload&name=cheeep_shop&file=description&II=332&IDU=20041212163038194.215.0.4!!.Well i will order those and post some results here... :banana:

[meke]

Well i can buy A-Data DDR600 at a good price and be sure that i will reach 300 FSB. But i don't know if OCZ EL Plat 3200 Rev2 will have better timings @ 300Mhz than A-Data's. Please, i need help :(

I have a pair of vitesta ddr600.

before vdimm mod, @2.85 v, I can only boot at 285 fsb dual 2,5-3-3-5 but after vdimm mod, @ 3.3 v, I can now boot at 300 fsb dual.

edit: single dimm can boot at 300 fsb @2.85 v

I need vagp mod because nb cannot handle the 300 fsb @1.8 v :stick:

[Kriller]

I can't get my DDR566 stable over 250 :/

Edit:
10x260 - 2,5-3-3-8-1T - 2,85v - unstable

9x275 (so far) - 2,5-3-3-8-1T - 2,7v - stable

[daysleeper]

I have a pair of vitesta ddr600.

before vdimm mod, @2.85 v, I can only boot at 285 fsb dual 2,5-3-3-5 but after vdimm mod, @ 3.3 v, I can now boot at 300 fsb dual.

edit: single dimm can boot at 300 fsb @2.85 v

I need vagp mod because nb cannot handle the 300 fsb @1.8 v :stick:
have you tried with cas2 5-2-2-2 settings how high you can go with that with vdimm 2,85v?

[qk4723Deluxe]

TCCD is Good !
http://61.220.123.253/cpg/albums/userpics/10003/all.jpg

[Xenom0rph]

I have just bought 2x512MB OCZ EL Plat Rev.2. I think i will have them on thursday or friday. I'll tell you my experiences when i have tried them. Bye.

[burnhead]

TCCD is Good !
http://61.220.123.253/cpg/albums/userpics/10003/all.jpg
???????????????-

[meke]

have you tried with cas2 5-2-2-2 settings how high you can go with that with vdimm 2,85v?

the def voltage is 2.85 for asus mobo.

fsb 200 1:1 is the only avaliable 2225 latency for ddr600.
then I try fsb 210, no way. May be 201-209 try can hit but I didn't try.

I made vdimm mod, and with 3.3V, fsb 235 1:1 2225 is stable, but fsb 240 is not.

[Sgt_Strider]

There's quite a bit of information in this thread and maybe you guys can come to conclusion on this. What's the "best" TCCD ram to get? Kingston, Crucial, OCZ? Or what? Thanks!

[quicksilverXP]

Crucial doesn't have TCCD...

[Szymek]

my HyperX ULK2/1G 2.8V !!

[LFATB]

How are the Patriot 1 gig kits doing with 3.0+?

[JDizzle]

How are the Patriot 1 gig kits doing with 3.0+?

The max vdimm on my board is 2.9v but I can get 220 2-2-2-5 with that.

[Dumo]

With gskill 1gble at 2.7Volts
http://www.omg-hax.net/upload/mem2.JPG

[Zeus]

Run integer multi's to show bandwidth. :stick:

[Susquehannock]

FYI ........

Just looked at my new my new Gskill RAM (gblE) and they
are all matching number TCCD chips mounted on Brainpower 808 PCB.

Hope to post comparrison with Bh-5 & Ch-5 in my nf2 board soon. :)

[Sgt_Strider]

Seems to me that you guys are liking Gskill TCCD Rams. Where are you guys buying yours from? I can't seem to differentiate the ones from newegg. Thanks!

[LFATB]

The max vdimm on my board is 2.9v but I can get 220 2-2-2-5 with that.
Sweet

[muzz]

Seems to me that you guys are liking Gskill TCCD Rams. Where are you guys buying yours from? I can't seem to differentiate the ones from newegg. Thanks!

Newegg

I got the 2x256 LE model

[Dumo]

Run integer multi's to show bandwidth. :stick:Here ya go........at 2.65V...
http://www.omg-hax.net/upload/a1integermulti3392.JPG

[Zeus]

LOL, that wasn't what i meant, you're using 11,5 multi which in turn puts in a divider for the mem.

Your mem is running 3292/12=274,3MHz

Running whole multi's has the the mem running 1:1 ;)

[Sgt_Strider]

Sorry for the repetitive questions on the TCCD Ram's. I think I'll just pay a little more and get OCZ rams. Is this the OCZ ram with TCCD modules?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-890&depa=0


Thanks.

[brentsg]

I just got an OCZ 4200EL Platinum kit (2x512MB) in the mail yesterday. With my previous TCCD RAM I couldn't get over 245 with the FX-55 and a Neo2. I don't have a DDR booster and I think the board is undervolting a bit.

Haven't really had the time to play yet but it had no trouble with 10x260 running Prime95 all night. Can't want to spend some more time finding the RAMs limits.

Latest Edit: Current setup:
vdimm=2.85V (but think it's undervolting)
10x270
2.5-3-3-10, 1T

I tested 275 and it was ok if I went to 3-3-3-10.

B

[Susquehannock]

Seems to me that you guys are liking Gskill TCCD Rams. Where are you guys buying yours from? I can't seem to differentiate the ones from newegg. Thanks!

Look at the last letter in the part number. According to many OCer posts, and
from the mods at the Gskill forums, it seems the "E" are best at the moment. And
why they are the most expensive.

[Dumo]

LOL, that wasn't what i meant, you're using 11,5 multi which in turn puts in a divider for the mem.

Your mem is running 3292/12=274,3MHz

Running whole multi's has the the mem running 1:1 ;)Take a look at this......Everest vs cpuid at 11.5 multi x 294 in bios
http://www.omg-hax.net/upload/evecpuid11.5.JPG

[STEvil]

which gives mem of 281.75 (3381/12).

.5 multi's result in the memory divider being the next WHOLE number up. The memory divider does not support .5 multi's.

[hesky]

I've been following this thread very closely, A friend told me about these new samsung chips so I thought I would look into them. I brought some cheap patriot ram a while back and noticed that it used the bp 808 pcb.

http://img135.exs.cx/img135/9171/photo_213.jpg

I wonder why they decided to use the 815 pcb with their tccd memory, I was dead set on there xbl sticks but all the pcb confusion has put me off them :confused:

Hesky

[Susquehannock]

The 808 and 815 based modules should perform about the same. There was
some speculation that the 808 OCed better but there has been no real basis to
favor one over the other. More luck of the draw.

Get the Gskill "E" if you want the fastest and don't want those silly useless
heatspreaders, and PDP/Patriot if you want to save a few bucks. The difference
in performance will likely be quite small in the grand scheme of things.

[computersmsa]

Hello,

The Gskill TCCD can make 300 MHz 2.5-3-3-5 for good stick !
Witch other mark can make this ?

Thanks :toast:

[hesky]

Cheers Susquehannock,

In the UK its pretty hard to get hold of these brands of ram.
I can get the G Skill extreme's for 205 pounds, the PQI turbos for 181 pounds and the PDP XBL's for 156 pounds. The XBL's are still really tempting, just hope I can get them to run 270 fsb at 2.9 to 3 volts.
Has anyone yet managed similar results with the xbls in dual channel mode.

Hesky

[computersmsa]

hesky ->
I'm in war for make a grouped order of best memory since 2 mouth !
I can have from Gskill Taiwan @ 245-250 € -> TCCD without certified
But they tell me that is good TCCD -> Maybe 300 MHz 2.5-3-3-5

He don't tell me if is GBLA, GBLB ... for me this name is MARKETING.
Gskill tell me that GBLE is now only for Newegg :(

For me Gskill is all the same except the GBLD, GBLD it's worst Samsung I thinks.

But 245-250 € ... is too mush, and I ask all XS.com, witch other memory can make this ?

Thanks :toast:

[hesky]

Hi computersmsa, thats cheaper than I can get, but its hard to get the g skill stuff cheap in the uk. Maybe if theres more interest in the group buy the price may go down.

Hesky

[viccyran]

Cheers Susquehannock,

In the UK its pretty hard to get hold of these brands of ram.
I can get the G Skill extreme's for 205 pounds, the PQI turbos for 181 pounds and the PDP XBL's for 156 pounds. The XBL's are still really tempting, just hope I can get them to run 270 fsb at 2.9 to 3 volts.
Has anyone yet managed similar results with the xbls in dual channel mode.

Hesky
I'm running mine stable DC @ 270 2.5-3-3-7. Good stuff :)

[Dumo]

with 2x512 LE, 295 at 2.65V. Gskill said that only 1 out of 10 tccd 431 will past speed binning and labeled LE....

[Perc]

How are the Patriot 1 gig kits doing with 3.0+?


i have the 512 kit and i can run 3.10v at 2-3-3-5 just fine. i havent tried this high of voltage with 3cas just 2cas and at high HTT like 270 plus... so far verry good memory. *crosses fingers*

peace perc,

[shimo]

Hi . Guys what are you thinking of Corsair 3200XLPT ????
Please look in the picrure , i guess that the PCB is BP. Thanks

[computersmsa]

New Corsair = BrainPower :)

hesky -> You can look the story of grouped order -> http://forum.bel-hardware.citywebz.com/Bh/viewtopic.php?t=128&start=60
I have good contact and price with Centon memory :)

[Sgt_Strider]

i have the 512 kit and i can run 3.10v at 2-3-3-5 just fine. i havent tried this high of voltage with 3cas just 2cas and at high HTT like 270 plus... so far verry good memory. *crosses fingers*

peace perc,

Are the Patriot 1 GB TCCD Rams selling for $219.99 at Newegg?

Here's the link?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-033&depa=0

[Susquehannock]

Are the Patriot 1 GB TCCD Rams selling for $219.99 at Newegg?

Here's the link?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-033&depa=0

Those be the good ones. :)

Hi . Guys what are you thinking of Corsair 3200XLPT ????
Please look in the picrure , i guess that the PCB is BP. Thanks

Interesting how that "BP" number is in a different location than my Gskill stix.
These have the "BP" number in the very middle of the back of
the module between the chips.
Guess those silly heatspreaders are covering the ends so you can't tell us
which BrainPower PCB they are using ... 808 or 815, or maybe something else completely?

[shimo]

They are BP 815 (TwinX1024-3200XLPT v1.2 dual-channel) . They did 270 @ 2.5-3-3-6 1T on a Abit AV8- K8T800-PRO with a winnie:). Hope they will do the same on my DFI -NF3 with my 3400+(NC 0433). Merry cristhmas to all:)

[computersmsa]

Centon will make TCCD with BP 808A in near time :)
The best PCB ...

For Europa people, I make a grouped order of them in near time.
Centon have a protos, but not quantity yet :)

The new topic -> http://forum.bel-hardware.citywebz.com/Bh/viewtopic.php?t=156 I think that will be a very good memory :D

++ Good end of year :)

[Ulti]

Finally got my TCCD, OCZ PC3200 2-2-2 Rev 2. Working in my DFI 754 with a 3200+ claw. I have a big problem cause I just can't get it over 245mhz at 2.5-3-3-7 timings. When I boot with these settings and my mobo wants to detect my 2 s-ata hdd's it just stops, like it can't find them. Anyone familiar with this problem?

[computersmsa]

HDD SATA -> Port 3 & 4
Disable 1 & 2
:)

[Jethro]

The Ram spreaders are quite useless indeed. I had a hunch my Patriot's were running hot so i decided to rip spreaders off and boy am i glad i did, there wasnt even 2 whole ram chips making full contact on one stick! very poor contact overall!

now time to see what they really can do! so far stable to 230FSB 2 2 2 7 1!

[Ulti]

HDD SATA -> Port 3 & 4
Disable 1 & 2
:)

Yeah I figured it out, thanks for the help though :toast:
I have another problem, my TCCD has a couple of errors in memtest at 265, sometimes hl2 also hangs up. Does burning in help or should I just RMA it and get the G.Skill?

[computersmsa]

S754 -> No problem with one stick, with two stick -> +- 265 MHz max ...
http://www.bel-hardware.be/a64moc_1.html
Look, it's the same with all TCCD :)

[Ulti]

But even with 1 dimm I can't get 265 stable...

[Juspriss]

Sorry guys, but do the OCZ 4200EL use selected TCCD + BrainPower PCB? :confused:
Which chip & pcb use the OCZ 4000EL Rev2? They are like OCZ 3200 EL Rev2? ;)
Thanks a lot all ;).
Regards :toast: .

[Susquehannock]

Nope ... don't think the OCZ 4200el will be BP/TCCD. You need to be looking
at these:

OCZ pc3200 EL Platinum Revision 2 (mod# OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K) = Brainpower 808

OCZ pc3700 EL Dual Channel Platinum (mod# OCZ4661024ELDCPE-K) = Brainpower 808

[Juspriss]

Thanks :).
So the 3700 Use selcted TCCD + BP PCB? :confused:

[Perc]

The Ram spreaders are quite useless indeed. I had a hunch my Patriot's were running hot so i decided to rip spreaders off and boy am i glad i did, there wasnt even 2 whole ram chips making full contact on one stick! very poor contact overall!

now time to see what they really can do! so far stable to 230FSB 2 2 2 7 1!

hey thx for the heads up on the heat spreaders. after reading your post i went and took a look at my patriot xbl's and sure enough poor contact...

these patriots are realy decent memory for sure. these are the first memorys i can actualy run two dimms at high htt in my DFI 250ut board. used to have to take a stick out once past 250htt now im at 270 and stable with both stick installed... deff nice memory glad i got a pair.

later perc,

[NiCKE^]

I cant relly figure out which BP PCB I got, this is the code: BP WLL E186014 and D6800H. Would be cool if someone knew.

[MaRtIe]

whats the best way to take the heatspreaders off?

[Susquehannock]

Thanks :).
So the 3700 Use selcted TCCD + BP PCB? :confused:

Yep, pretty sure they use hand selected chips that are known to
OC well.

I cant relly figure out which BP PCB I got, this is the code: BP WLL E186014 and D6800H. Would be cool if someone knew.

They are likely covered by the heatspreaders, but I think you need to look at
the ends of the PCB. As in this picture:
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/Susquehannock-tccd808815.jpg

hey thx for the heads up on the heat spreaders. after reading your post i went and took a look at my patriot xbl's and sure enough poor contact...>>>>>>..


Not at all surprised the heatspreaders were making poor contact. This is
more common that we'd like to think. Not only that, those adhesive pads
aren't "thermal pads" ... or are they?

whats the best way to take the heatspreaders off?

Try freezing the stix first. (makes the adhesive brittle)
Then thread a piece of fishing line under the spreaders and pull. There are
other tricks and hopefully someone will post up.