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froudeg
10-11-2004, 05:47 AM
Hi,

Im in the process of building my cascade setup, and am unsure of the cap tube length on the first stage. I'm targetting a 500watt heat load capacity on the first stage - for the single stage setup's i've built, i followed gary's rule of thumb for cap tube lengths on R404A (10 foot, for 150 watts...loose a foot for every 15 watts from there.

Obviously this rule of thumb wont work for large heat loads - so, from the guy's who have experience with cascades - whats your rule of thumb for large heat loads such as 500 watts? - btw im using 0.026" cap tube, i know that if you used 0.028" i just need to shorten it somewhat (30% seems general rule).

I've got some TEV's here, that i was planning to use - but their capacity range is from 500 watts upwards - which is no good if im wanting it to work within a 200-600 watt sorta range....altho i did have an idea of using this along with cap tube, to effectively lower the minimum capacity it can adjust within.

By the way, the second stage is ethane with a target 200 watt heat load and not ethylene etc - ie it only needs a -20c condensing temperature, which means i dont need massive 1/2hp compressors on 1st stage, and dont need anything more than a 500 watt capacity on the first stage - should be more than enuf.

Any help is appreciated.

kayl
10-11-2004, 06:24 AM
i have a feeling that if you use 0.026 for first stage that the length required will be too short.
i have been looking into some ethane too, but i have found plaves that are ment to sell it, but they shops near me have to order it in.
you know that you could even use it in you first stage, 50% r290/ethane, its comercial refrigernat called care50 and has a boiling point of -50c at 0.97bar
http://www.refrigerants.co.kr/html/prodtechinfo.htm

Zejtan
10-11-2004, 05:18 PM
i would defenently go for a expansion valve, and orifice size that is calculated for about 500 watt. "lts find the charts aight ? "! =D

Redwolf
10-11-2004, 06:10 PM
Use a 1/8th Ton valve... 404A

chilly1
10-11-2004, 10:17 PM
A 1/8 to 1/3 ton valve with a z or w charge in the bulb internally equilized will work fine and then use a pev on the second stage, like the Parker A4.