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cpulloverclock
08-22-2004, 11:32 AM
I dont believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/HIGH-CLOCK.htm

Mobile P4 3.46GES Q54V@L426A***

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http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/SETFSB-HI/E0_5128Mhz.gif

hallowen
08-22-2004, 11:55 AM
Really Radical..:slobber:

Also noticed it's an another EO Stepping!

Veeerry Interesting!:hehe:

$0m#0n#
08-22-2004, 11:55 AM
WoW, 5.1Ghz@1.12V :slobber: , what ll it do at 1.6V?, 6Ghz or 7Ghz :D

m0nk33y
08-22-2004, 11:57 AM
my god amazing.. where the heck did he get that cpu?

cold_ice
08-22-2004, 12:03 PM
Fake... it's not possible with this vcore and aircooling, if you ask me
The numbers in the left corner of CPUZ are covered too

craig588
08-22-2004, 12:03 PM
Oh man, that looks like the ES E0 mobile I passed up a little while ago. Well, at least another overclocker got it.

Did you get it in the past week, or have you had it for a while?

masterofpuppets
08-22-2004, 01:04 PM
that screen has BS written all over it.

freecableguy
08-22-2004, 01:21 PM
What do the numbers in the bottom left of the CPU-Z screenie tell you? Anything? How do you decypher them?

masterofpuppets
08-22-2004, 01:27 PM
There was a tool called cpuz frequency id checker but i dont see it for download after a long google search.

masterofpuppets
08-22-2004, 01:28 PM
Although, if it is fake, it has been very well edited.

Kunaak
08-22-2004, 01:45 PM
it may not be a fake, if anyone remembers AJM from Hardocp was selling 3.06 ES chips a few months ago and he had said he got 4.6 ghz on air.

but none of the benchmarks were all that impressive.
he later realized that he was locked to a 14 multiplier, not 21 like windows was showing.
using a mobile CPU in the desktop means you have no control over the multiplier, and it changes whenever it wants.

he was honest about the 4.6 ghz glitch, this guy seems to be trying to pass it off as real.

hallowen
08-22-2004, 01:53 PM
After Looking at His Post, I was wondering WTH I'm doing wrong with my 3.4E EO ES on a CASCADE only getting 5162MHz!:bsod:

FUGGER
08-22-2004, 02:19 PM
Well can the M AXP 2600+ reach over 3Ghz on air with over 2v on the core...

Jeff
08-22-2004, 02:54 PM
Not normal air. Maybe in the dead of winter when it's -15f outside. ;)

WildKard
08-22-2004, 04:13 PM
im sure somewhere a guy in a snow suit has hit 3ghz on air with mobile axp :)

pik-ard v1.1
08-22-2004, 04:54 PM
i think this is a bug, just like that 4.6ghz (while installing windows) one was, a few months back ;)

Karnivore
08-22-2004, 07:33 PM
Not sure what the issue is, but I would agree on the general consensus that this is either intentional fake or bugged... Or possibly someone trying to pass a supercooled chip as air cooled for attention...

Gogeta
08-22-2004, 07:34 PM
Definitely either a bug or a fake...would the system even boot at those AGP/PCI frequencies? Seems to me that any hard drive would freak out at 49MHz.

John Cena
08-22-2004, 08:30 PM
It's edited.

Look at the spacing of the 9 and the 8. Also if you carefuly study it, you can see the 9 is sluggish kind of. It's fake.

skate2snow
08-22-2004, 08:36 PM
To me its wierd that it says they have IC7, but SetFSB is P4C800, no?

Kunaak
08-22-2004, 08:41 PM
26 x 133 = 3.46 ghz prescott??

(figured cause 26x197=5.122 ghz)

do those even exist?

FUGGER
08-23-2004, 12:19 AM
Look at the processor model number 552

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2012

halfway down the first image.

Kunaak
08-23-2004, 01:24 AM
jesus, imagine playing with that 558...

27 multiplier.

cpulloverclock
08-23-2004, 02:48 AM
I still do not know if it is true

HawainPanda
08-23-2004, 07:40 AM
man...that seems sweet though, but im betting if it was real, he must of done it with really cool air

cpulloverclock
08-23-2004, 08:29 AM
I think it's in air + ln2

hallowen
08-23-2004, 08:56 AM
Alright Guys!

I Sent an Email to this Website as follows:

Quote:

Gentlemen: Could you Please give me more Information on Whether or Not This Is A TRUE High Score on Air Or Just A FAKE!

I , And my Members at Xtremesystems.org have a HARD Time Believing That This Score is Accurate.

Thank You For your Reply In Advance.

Sincerely,

hallowen@attbi.com

Unquote:

Here is the Email I Received From Yokoigawa at the Website in responce to the Overclock Score! :D

Quote:

Thank you for your e-mail.
5129.2MHz is wonderful Score!
Of course,it is true.
I think.E0-Stepping is good.
He live inTaiwan,and he got E0-Stepping Mobile P4 3.46GHz Engineering sample.
I want to get E0-Stepping P4 ,too.

Sincerely,

tanuki

Unquote:

I Have No Reason to Doubt that he is not Telling the Truth, since I asked The Administrator of this Website Directly!

bigjohns97
08-23-2004, 11:05 AM
nm

lupacchiotto
08-23-2004, 11:06 AM
For me is possible the score...but not only with air cooling!
With ln2 yessss........

It's a fantastic score...no only wonderful...
But the name of the clocker??

cpulloverclock
08-23-2004, 12:02 PM
mizuhiro

hallowen
08-23-2004, 12:24 PM
458MHz RAM FREQUENCY!:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:

Here is an Email I Just Received from EC Chen who did the 5128MHz High OC on Air:

Quote:

Dear Sir:

This is my original capture_screen of Mobile P4 3.46G overclock upto 5129MHz for your reference. (attached)

The environments is IC7 M/B with Bios Ver 25. The Mobile P4 still cannot booted smoothly with this board. It only bootup smoothly every ones after clear CMOS. After power off I have to clear CMOS once again to let it bootup. I cannot change/save anything in the BIOS cs it will hangup. So the only OC method is using SetFSB(SetFSB for P4c800 also for IC7).

The Vcore reading in the BIOS is 1.150V. while CPU_Z is 1.120V.

Room tempture was around 30C.

Mobile P4(Prescott core) has double L1 latency time(8cycles/u16KB) of Normal P4 Prescott(4cycles/u16KB). So it can Overclock higher, even by normal air cooling.

Do not expect it too much because the performance(@5128)almost like a normal P4_prescott3.4G.

I have tried to go higherFSB by changing CPU/Memeory ratio to 1:1, but BIOS can not saved. I think the CPU still have head room.

If you have any Q please don't hestate to ask me.

EC

Unquote:

http://hallowen.freehosting.net/5128Mhz_EO.jpg

EDIT: Sorry, having trouble trying to Load Pic....

Kunaak
08-23-2004, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by hallowen
458MHz RAM FREQUENCY!:slob

Do not expect it too much because the performance(@5128)almost like a normal P4_prescott3.4G.



this is what I was talking about.
AJM had this same problem.
he "thought" he installed windows at 4.6 ghz, but kept doing tons of benchmarks to prove it, and they were only doing like 8,000 mips and bandwidth of like 4,000
among other things.

I forget how they concluded this, but the guys had a 10 page long post about what happens when you put mobile CPUs in P4 motherboards.

you have no control over the multiplier, so it defaults to it's lowest available multiplier, but windows reads the highest multiplier.

Nanobot
08-23-2004, 02:29 PM
Guys these ppl are full of it !

Mobile Prescott are not properly detected by most apps and BIOS

My ES Mobile 3.06 533Mhz with HT only gets it's proper clock detected with Clockgen.

Here's screenie to prove it;

http://perso.b2b2c.ca/nanobot/Capture/Capture23-08-2004-6.46.12%20PM.jpg



Dont fall for these fool's hoax,these CPU are faster than their desktop counterparts but not THAT fast.:rolleyes:

Kunaak
08-23-2004, 02:30 PM
THANK YOU :D

hallowen
08-23-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Kunaak
THANK YOU :D

Thanks from Me Also!

I Thought There was Something Wrong, But I didn't Know What.:bs:

Guess You Just Can't Trust Everyone! :D

pik-ard v1.1
08-23-2004, 02:44 PM
so how high can they REALLY go?

Nanobot
08-23-2004, 02:48 PM
Lol,your all welcome.

ROFL IMAO I just see ppl rushing to the comp stores to buy Mobiles by the crate full.

BTW:I'm at 245FSB 1/1 multi x14 locked :(

It scores the same 3dmark and SuperPi times as my 3.0SL6WU@3.85GHZ !

Kunaak
08-23-2004, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Nanobot

BTW:I'm at 245FSB 1/1 multi x14 locked :(



yep, thats what I been saying...

windows reads the highest available multiplier, but it defaults to it's lowest available multiplier and you have no control over that...
I almost bought a 3.06 ES too till I saw that hardocp guys all getting locked with the 14 multiplier.

pik-ard v1.1
08-23-2004, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by Nanobot

BTW:I'm at 245FSB 1/1 multi x14 locked :(

It scores the same 3dmark and SuperPi times as my 3.0SL6WU@3.85GHZ !
woah woah... at 3.43ghz... its scoring the same as a p4c at 3.85ghz? :eek:

craig588
08-23-2004, 03:44 PM
with my P4C at 3.8GHz it was doing 35 seconds in superpi.

Nanobot
08-23-2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by pik-ard v1.1
woah woah... at 3.43ghz... its scoring the same as a p4c at 3.85ghz? :eek:

Yep :D ,mobile cores are more efficient since they usually come from the centre of the wafer where the better yeilds are.

Clock for clock mobile chips will beat a desktop one on average.

If someone could make a 100million trasistor CPU with every single gate that works it could be run at 100Mhz of total ownage, every single destop processor would be left in the dust.
That's the theory at least...

pik-ard v1.1
08-23-2004, 04:17 PM
100mhz? :P

but still... making up for a 400mhz+ defficit? if its the same core, that seems a bit much

EDIT: oh wait nvm, its doing 38seconds at 3.4ghz, whereas his 3.85 was doing 35seconds... :rolleyes:

cpulloverclock
08-24-2004, 02:33 AM
ok, it's a bug

too bad

cpulloverclock
08-24-2004, 02:40 AM
I get 33s at 3780MHz with a 3.0E

OC_Newbee
08-24-2004, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by craig588
with my P4C at 3.8GHz it was doing 35 seconds in superpi.

Mine in sig do 35s as well.

blinky
08-28-2004, 11:54 PM
so......... he claims it performs bad because the latencies are doubled making it easier to clock, but in reality the desktop mobo with mobile cpu combo is making his multi read wrong

someone email him to get clockgen and see what it says

a5h
08-29-2004, 06:14 AM
ROLF ...either he knows and he's faking it, or he's pure dumb blaming latencys.

someone confront him :D

HawainPanda
08-29-2004, 05:24 PM
oh yeah, i remember this was brought up some time ago, someone should def tell them