View Full Version : THE OFFICIAL "So Who Has The Most Efficient PC???" Thread
StormPC
08-19-2004, 02:57 PM
I looked all over and I couldn't find a thread like this, and I thought it would be cool to have a top 100 list of the most efficient computers on Earth. That is to say, how many Points Per MHz can you score in 2K1?
So do the top overclockers ALWAYS have the most efficient systems? We can see who scores the highest, but I wonder if the same people have the most and best use of MHz always.
All systems are welcome, but only the top 100 will be listed.
Please post your 3DMark2001 compare link and your actual CPU MHz. I will compile a list of the top 100. It should be interesting with the wide variety of setups here. This is one of the questions that can be answered here.
Please only post once in this thread. If you need to update please do it in your original post.
Please use the following format:
FX-53/A8V Deluxe/2667MHz/32449
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8054269
Only posts accompanied by a valid compare will be included.
Should be interesting!:up:
***TOP 100 Computers in average Points Per MHz***
#1 12.604 PPM - Pkrew - FX-53/PC - X800 XT/PC - K8NSNXP-939
#2 12.314 PPM - Eshbach - 3200+/air - X800 XT/air - AN50
#3 12.228 PPM - OPPainter - FX-53/cas - X800 XT/cas - K8NSNXP-939
#4 12.267 PPM - HARDiNFO - FX-53/PC - X800 XT/PC - K8NSNXP-939
#5 12.252 PPM - oc-rookie - 3700+/PC - X800 XT/PC - K8NS PRO
#6 12.167 PPM - StormPC - FX-53/air - X800 XT/air - Asus A8V
#7 12.133 PPM - CoolalerBB - FX-53/PC - X800 XT/PC - Abit AV8
#8 12.079 PPM - CodeRed - 3400+/PC - X800 XT/w+p - AN50
#9 12.014 PPM - Bowman1964 - FX-53/cas - X800 Pro/cas - K8NSNXP-939
#10 11.892 PPM - Macci - 3400+/cas - X800 XT/cas - K8N Pro
#11 11.821 PPM - Sierra_bound - FX-53/PC - X800 XT/PC - Asus A8V
#12 11.428 PPM - pc ice - FX-53/cas - X800 Pro/cas - SK8V
#13 10.482 PPM - Crow - 2800+/air - 9800 Pro/air - MS-6702
#14 7.374 PPM - r3b0rN - XP2800+/air - FX 5900XT/air - A7N8X-E
If anyone knows of any errors please PM me and I will correct them. Thanks!
Çhrist0ph
08-19-2004, 04:55 PM
Yes, this will be interesting.
Techmasta
08-19-2004, 05:00 PM
The calculation doesn't prove anything. Intel has much higher clock speed than AMD.
lalPOOO
08-19-2004, 05:05 PM
It does if you compare to other intels. But the problem is that because there are so many different types of chips its hard to 'compete' against people in your catorgoy.
eshbach
08-19-2004, 05:12 PM
31031 at 2.52ghz so 12.32 ppmhz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7968459
Geforce4ti4200
08-19-2004, 05:19 PM
does it factor in your gpu? If not then those with x800xt will have the most effeciant per MHz. also I can underclock my a64 to 1GHz to increase the efficienty per MHz
Kunaak
08-19-2004, 05:26 PM
isnt this the same as this thread?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40872
LilGator
08-19-2004, 05:34 PM
LOL, ridiculous, as GeForce pointed out, those with expensive video cards win, hand down...
You'll have to make a ton of categories, for P4 and AXP, and A64. And then each will have to have it's own video card category...
Useless info :stick:
StormPC
08-19-2004, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Techmasta
The calculation doesn't prove anything. Intel has much higher clock speed than AMD.
It means Intel's can't compare to A64's. They will be compared separately. It would be cool to see which of the P4's are more efficient also. (EE, NW, Prescot, etc...)
It is an indication of who got the most points with the MHz they had. As everyone knows MHz by itself don't mean much. It's what you get out of the MHz that counts.;)
LilGator
08-19-2004, 05:46 PM
Storm, 3DM01 is NOT all CPU MHZ...
StormPC
08-19-2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Kunaak
isnt this the same as this thread?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40872
Not at all. This has nothing to do with how much your system costs. That thread got me wondering about efficiency.
I will start things out with a compare of the top 10 on the 2k1 ORB, plus my own result. I think it will be interesting. I will include cooling as well so we can see which cooling consistently provides the most bang for the CPU MHz.
Like everyone knows, and I'll say it again, MHz does not equal a higher score necessarily in 2k1.;)
LilGator
Of course not, but there is a relationship.
stasiu
08-19-2004, 05:50 PM
this thread is ghey.
Geforce4ti4200
08-19-2004, 05:56 PM
fine ill underclock my a64 to 1GHz and I should get at least 12k marks at that too
LilGator
08-19-2004, 06:15 PM
StormPC: there isn't always a relationship, there is always a bottleneck, and it isn't the CPU all (100%) of the time.
Take that X800XT out of your system, stick a GF2MX in it. Suddenly your Points Per Megahertz has plummeted to the gutter. But whay ? You didn't change your CPU clocks :p:
Look at OPPs 38K score, what happened ? 800MHz on the GPU is what happened.
:rotf:
r3b0rN
08-19-2004, 06:22 PM
obviously bottlenecks make this stupid, and so does comparing different cpu's to each other, but here mine is.
AXP 2800+/A7N8X-E Deluxe/2405MHz/AIR/17734
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8054485
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7.37 PPM
pkrew
08-19-2004, 06:24 PM
you'd have to have categories and would have to limit gpu clocks to stock. There's no way to compare someone running on air at say 620/630 vs water at 670/630 or phase change at 760/660 or cascade at 800/670. This is just not going to happen
StormPC
08-19-2004, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by LilGator
StormPC: there isn't always a relationship, there is always a bottleneck, and it isn't the CPU all (100%) of the time.
Take that X800XT out of your system, stick a GF2MX in it. Suddenly your Points Per Megahertz has plummeted to the gutter. But whay ? You didn't change your CPU clocks :p:
Look at OPPs 38K score, what happened ? 800MHz on the GPU is what happened.
:rotf:
This is not a CPU test, it is a system evaluation. Some good info concerning who has the least bottlenecked system (where everything is running at it's highest efficiency) can be had.
Sure people with an X800 XT on PC have a good chance of scoring more points, but I threw my 100% aircooled system in there with the top 10 on the ORB and I'm #5 out of 11. Not a CPU test, a bottleneck test!:D
StormPC
08-19-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by pkrew
you'd have to have categories and would have to limit gpu clocks to stock. There's no way to compare someone running on air at say 620/630 vs water at 670/630 or phase change at 760/660 or cascade at 800/670. This is just not going to happen
Look at the list. It's already happening.:D
Well my system is on 100% air. When compared to the top 10 of the ORB (11 counting me) I'm #5. What do you say to that?
iboomalot
08-19-2004, 06:49 PM
my suggestion for this kinda of test is a CPU test.
SiSoftware Sandra CPU Arithmetic Benchmark
Dhrystone ALU / mhz = score
This would work alot better due to not being tied to the GPU.
The test scales well too.
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this thread still around in 2-3 weeks when I get my X800 card I will post my scores at that time.
LilGator
08-19-2004, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by iboomalot
my suggestion for this kinda of test is a CPU test.
SiSoftware Sandra CPU Arithmetic Benchmark
Dhrystone ALU / mhz = score
This would work alot better due to not being tied to the GPU.
The test scales well too.
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this thread still around in 2-3 weeks when I get my X800 card I will post my scores at that time.
Then it would scale with clocks, nothing to do with efficiency...
StormPC
08-19-2004, 06:51 PM
@iboomalot
Do you see the words "CPU TEST" anywhere in this thread title or in my first post? If you don't want to read that's fine but stop crapping in peoples threads please.
iboomalot
08-19-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by LilGator
Then it would scale with clocks, nothing to do with efficiency...
it does scale I tried it on my system
almost idential ratios at 1800 mhz as it did at 2000 , 2200 , 2400 etc etc.
this shows what is eff. not just who has the faster card.
was just a suggestion
Thats fine when I get my X800 I will put up my own score.
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storm calm down son, its just a suggestion. This is a discussion forum remember.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8059285
21227 3dmark2k1
CPU at 2025mhz equals 10.482 ppmhz
LilGator
08-19-2004, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by iboomalot
it does scale I tried it on my system
almost idential ratios at 1800 mhz as it did at 2000 , 2200 , 2400 etc etc.
this shows what is eff. not just who has the faster card.
was just a suggestion
Thats fine when I get my X800 I will put up my own score.
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storm calm down son, its just a suggestion. This is a discussion forum remember.
No, no, no. You're not understanding me. Of course it scales with CPU clocks. What's the point in that ? The person with the most expensive CPU / most expensive cooling wins :D
Storm is looking at efficiency, though with a flawed measurement.
Romaster
08-19-2004, 07:10 PM
I liked the how much money per point idea better..
this is just an amd thread... :rolleyes: how bout someone go grab a itanium and a mac g5.. and i bet it would be #1 ez...
iboomalot
08-19-2004, 07:25 PM
sorry to have bothered you Storm I started my own thread on this in the AMD hardware area.
I sorry I upset you its your thread I will not post here again until I get my scores up with the new card.
StormPC
08-19-2004, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Romaster
I liked the how much money per point idea better..
this is just an amd thread... :rolleyes: how bout someone go grab a itanium and a mac g5.. and i bet it would be #1 ez...
Sorry mister thread crapper, but they can't run 3dMark! Zero is what they would be.;)
Mongoose420
08-19-2004, 08:09 PM
not bad for a celeron eeeer newcastle on air and stock x800xtpe
30100 2.673ghz 11.26
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8059424
Kalway
08-19-2004, 08:18 PM
Super pi and pi fast would be better benchmarks to do this with.
Bungo
08-19-2004, 10:24 PM
x800XT + lowest possible cpu clock and u will prolly take the first place in this thread :S
Dosent se the meaning of it.
3dmark/buck is so much more intressting :)
Ragnarok
08-20-2004, 01:50 AM
i am sure FX53 @ 1GHz + X800XT will give u more than 13K ...
Hence the comparision is entirely flawed...
Çhrist0ph
08-20-2004, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by Bungo
3dmark/buck is so much more intressting :)
Yep. This thread has been invalidated,
drunkenmaster
08-20-2004, 02:56 AM
to me, seems like a thread to move up storm pc from #11 or whatever, to #6 woohoo, you've found a way to prattle on about how great you are.
Why in the hell are you throwing out 100% air into this thread. ON air, your clocks are LOWER than on cascade, so cooling makes ZERO impact on the scores in this thread. By getting a better score this way you are also increase Mhz to offset it. The whole concept is ridiculous. You also mentioned you could compare many different types of setups, but I only see the specific hardware that makes you #6 being compared .
Why not start a thread called,
"i'm stormpc, the rest may be above of me in the orb, but i'm aircooled and they use hardware i once touched and therefore i must be god" , then we can have a mod sticky it, lock it, and you can stop posting full stop.
Mongoose420
08-20-2004, 02:58 AM
looks like he's been banned anyway
Karnivore
08-20-2004, 03:00 AM
Closing this one up, enough bashing guys, lets all try to respect each other...