View Full Version : DDR Maximizer on it's way......More Volts on our Rams....
F|apDro|`
03-05-2005, 12:32 PM
Rofl !
Revv23
03-05-2005, 05:52 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've taken matters into my own hands. Forget the Maximizer. Make way for.. the Vaporizer! :D
-Luf
Respect to Hipro5 ;) All in good fun.
haha, very funny you are.
spruce
03-08-2005, 12:28 PM
any new news on this? is it out yet?
comment
03-08-2005, 01:59 PM
any new news on this? is it out yet?No, not yet. Last thing I heard was that it should be out within a week or so. Hopefully thatâs not too fare away from the truth :toast:
spruce
03-08-2005, 02:06 PM
sweet, my Ic7-g needs one badly :D
Revv23
03-09-2005, 07:13 AM
yes that is why i want one, i dont mind modding but this tool would be absolutly indespensable.
iddqd
03-09-2005, 09:34 AM
I'm wondering if you could make it low-profile... I have put giant heatsinks on my memory, and the center slot is obviously useless. Since the maximizer only uses a few pins from the DDR PCB, maybe you could make it much lower too? or just solder the wires from the floppy-bay unit directly into the DIMM slot?
situman
03-09-2005, 09:51 AM
picky picky arent we?
althes
03-12-2005, 02:58 PM
Just cant wait to get one
atreides
03-15-2005, 03:13 AM
There're no news from hipro5 :( .
Do u have any confirmation of the hipro5's start of production on DDR maximizer? I PM'ed him, but still no answer, maybe the inbox is full ;)
Revv23
03-15-2005, 06:44 AM
like i said in the other maximizer thread, he hasnt been on since the 25th. I hope our friend is okay.
situman
03-15-2005, 08:04 AM
we should start a thread "Hipro5 where are u?"
elec999
04-23-2005, 07:39 PM
Anyone got any clues how much this ram maximizer will cost.
Thanks
x714n
04-23-2005, 07:57 PM
around 100euro, cmiiw
Lufusol
04-25-2005, 05:52 AM
I've heard of IIRC and AFAIK but this is getting ridiculous. So you stumped me, what does CMIIW stand for?
-Luf
Entity_Razer
04-25-2005, 07:49 AM
Correct Me If I'm Wrong
:slapass:
Jasonhk
04-25-2005, 07:56 AM
I think the CE Certificates are taking longer than planned.....
TekXoID
04-25-2005, 08:18 AM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've taken matters into my own hands. Forget the Maximizer. Make way for.. the Vaporizer! :D
-Luf
Respect to Hipro5 ;) All in good fun.
lmao, nice chop. :clap:
Owen1978
04-25-2005, 08:23 AM
don't want tot break off the idea of this maximizer...but what usefull could this be? :)
A dfi delivers 4.0V....isn't that enough to feed youre ram?or is something different?
Hopefully rev2 will have upto 8 volts!!!! :p:
Magnj
04-25-2005, 08:25 AM
lol. I htink the fact thats it much more accurate and stable?
Entity_Razer
04-25-2005, 08:36 AM
yes and filters a LOT of noise out of the volt signal and provides a nice clean and stable voltage.
So it won't only help OC by giving MORE volt but also by giving CLEANER volts
hipro5
04-25-2005, 08:37 AM
don't want tot break off the idea of this maximizer...but what usefull could this be? :)
A dfi delivers 4.0V....isn't that enough to feed youre ram?or is something different?
What's the advantage of using the DDR Maximizer in the DFI NF4 boards - apart from 4.2V with the DDR Maximizer as opposed to the 4.0V on the DFI?
Look.......MOST of the times when someone wants to boot into Windows with OVER 3.7Vdimm into DFI bios which ACTUALLY IS 3.82Vdimm, is difficult.......Blue screens, even corrupted files......Now with the DDR Maximizer you can boot into windows at 3.8Vdimm and then play with it as much as you want "onthefly"...... ;)
SECOND reason is that the mobo works MUCH more stable and colder coz it doesn't need to feed the Rams with power so as to get really hot........ ;)
......and THIRD, almost everyone who has bought a Zippy 700W PSU and try the Mobo's jumper to 4Volts, it doesn't work....Now comes the Maxi to solve this.......ALSO in Mobos that takes the power for its Ram Mos-Fets from the 5Volts line, the Maxi work just fine with it
....... ;) :)
hipro5
04-25-2005, 08:41 AM
I've heard of IIRC and AFAIK but this is getting ridiculous. So you stumped me, what does CMIIW stand for?
-Luf
What does "CMIIW" means?.......Thanks...... :confused:
Gray Mole
04-25-2005, 08:44 AM
I've seen some of the prelim ideas on it and just one question...
can it be made/have an extension made so that it doesn't interfere with the other slots? Maybe an optional extension ribbon as an add-on?
Gray
hipro5
04-25-2005, 08:48 AM
I've seen some of the prelim ideas on it and just one question...
can it be made/have an extension made so that it doesn't interfere with the other slots? Maybe an optional extension ribbon as an add-on?
Gray
What exactly do you mean about that?.......To have cables that from the one side will be "free" of connector?.......
Gray Mole
04-25-2005, 08:55 AM
I've seen someone who modded up a ribbon lead with a female connector that allows you to plug the ribbon lead into the ram slot used for the booster, and mount the booster away from the ram slot itself...
Makes it so you can use larger ramsinks and easier to adjust AND if there are issues with certain slots(like this mobo) the you can still get your booster in and use slots that you normally wouldn't...
I don't know how low profile this booster is going to be, and if it's wafer-thin, then it wouldn't be necessary, but even for the remote mounting and ease of use, I'd pay more for an extension lead...
Gray
hipro5
04-25-2005, 09:07 AM
Sorry but I still don't understand your point....... :confused:
The DDR Maximizer is a 3.5" unit and you put it into a 3.5" bay.......Some cables with connectors are pluged in the back of the Maximizer and on their other end are also pluged via a connector to the DDR PCB that plugs into a DDR slot........This DDR PCB is TOO thin......
ex. DDR PCB view 1
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Multicontroler/Prefinal_jpg/Prefinal_DDR_PCB_1_jpg.jpg
ex. DDR PCB view 2
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Multicontroler/Prefinal_jpg/Prefinal_DDR_PCB_2_jpg.jpg
ex. DDR PCB view 3
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Multicontroler/Prefinal_jpg/Prefinal_DDR_PCB_3_jpg.jpg
ex. DDR PCB view 4
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Multicontroler/Prefinal_jpg/Prefinal_DDR_PCB_4_jpg.jpg
ex. DDR PCB view 5
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Multicontroler/Prefinal_jpg/Prefinal_DDR_PCB_5_jpg.jpg
ex. DDR PCB view 6
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Multicontroler/Prefinal_jpg/Prefinal_DDR_PCB_6_jpg.jpg
ex. DDR PCB view 7
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Multicontroler/Prefinal_jpg/Prefinal_DDR_PCB_7_jpg.jpg
Gray Mole
04-25-2005, 09:16 AM
*cough cough*
:am:
Sorry mate I didn't realize that what you were doing is exactly what I was wanting...
:owned:
So...you taking orders yet :D
Gray
hipro5
04-25-2005, 09:20 AM
*cough cough*
:am:
Sorry mate I didn't realize that what you were doing is exactly what I was wanting...
:owned:
So...you taking orders yet :D
Gray
It's OK.........I was confused for a while....... :D :toast:
For pre-orders PM me...... ;)
Entity_Razer
04-25-2005, 09:26 AM
Hey Hirpo, is it a "rule" that anything that work or doesn't work on the OCZ booster won't work on the maximizer?
because apparently me A78N8X-X doesn't work with the OCZ product because of the overvoltage however OCZ says 2.8 is teh limit but I'm pushing my RAM 2.9 in the Uberbios at the moment.
so will it work or not or could I "fix" the vcore monitoring/ protection with a bios flahs/mod?
Gray Mole
04-25-2005, 09:28 AM
[QUOTE=hipro5][B]It's OK.........I was confused for a while.......[QUOTE]
I'm confused most of the while :nuts:
Should have read the WHOLE thread maybe :fact:
ygpm
Gray
hipro5
04-25-2005, 09:37 AM
Hey Hirpo, is it a "rule" that anything that work or doesn't work on the OCZ booster won't work on the maximizer?
because apparently me A78N8X-X doesn't work with the OCZ product because of the overvoltage however OCZ says 2.8 is teh limit but I'm pushing my RAM 2.9 in the Uberbios at the moment.
so will it work or not or could I "fix" the vcore monitoring/ protection with a bios flahs/mod?
Mobos with Vdimm overvoltage protection is possible to work with the DDR Maximizer IF they ONLY "read" this Vdimm during post and "cut" the mobo from booting......IF afterwords just don't "pay attention" to the Vdimm, then they will work.....User can boot - lets say with the 2.8Vdimm - and then he can play within Windows......SECOND : DDR Maximizer is providing the Vdimm in a different way than the OCZ's booster so yes it's possible to work with mobos that are incopatible with the booster......Time and tests will show as.... ;)
situman
04-25-2005, 02:41 PM
Can someone please test the AN8? Good board, but Vdimm voltages are crappy and I think it has overvoltage protecti0n on it too :(
Magnj
04-25-2005, 02:48 PM
Look.......MOST of the times when someone wants to boot into Windows with OVER 3.7Vdimm into DFI bios which ACTUALLY IS 3.82Vdimm, is difficult.......Blue screens, even corrupted files......Now with the DDR Maximizer you can boot into windows at 3.8Vdimm and then play with it as much as you want "onthefly"...... ;)
SECOND reason is that the mobo works MUCH more stable and colder coz it doesn't need to feed the Rams with power so as to get really hot........ ;)
......and THIRD, almost everyone who has bought a Zippy 700W PSU and try the Mobo's jumper to 4Volts, it doesn't work....Now comes the Maxi to solve this.......ALSO in Mobos that takes the power for its Ram Mos-Fets from the 5Volts line, the Maxi work just fine with it
....... ;) :)
So does this mean if we use the 5V line, and maximizer, Mosfets wont get hot?
esdee
04-25-2005, 03:11 PM
lol my kingston BH5 became famous ! (first pic) :p:
esdee
04-25-2005, 03:16 PM
So does this mean if we use the 5V line, and maximizer, Mosfets wont get hot?
no reason to use the 5V on the DFI, leave it to the 3.3V jumper setting.(less things to worry while flashing BIOSes too). Maximizer works just fine with the 3.3V
That's how we used it to test hipro5s BH6 with 3.9++ Vdimm
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59322&page=4
situman
04-25-2005, 05:45 PM
Even though the 5v jumper wasnt used, it still gave u guys problems right?
Revv23
04-25-2005, 07:54 PM
^no, the cpu was the limit in all of thier tests.
esdee
04-26-2005, 02:30 AM
Even though the 5v jumper wasnt used, it still gave u guys problems right?
lol, yeah ... problem
we couldn't pass 294MHz @ 2-2-5-2 with bh6 :rolleyes:
(CPU was running flat out, as soon as we have a san diego, or an FX57 we'll bench again)
Gray Mole
04-26-2005, 02:43 AM
lol, yeah ... problem
we couldn't pass 294MHz @ 2-2-5-2 with bh6 :rolleyes:
(CPU was running flat out, as soon as we have a san diego, or an FX57 we'll bench again)
:eek2:
No need to sell me on it, I'm already on the PO list ;)
Thinkin' about sellin' that troublesome ram? :D
Gray
esdee
04-26-2005, 04:11 AM
:eek2:
No need to sell me on it, I'm already on the PO list ;)
Thinkin' about sellin' that troublesome ram? :D
Gray
lol, it's hipro5's infamous Kingston BH6.
Selling them... hmmm let me see... he even gets anxious whenever someone touches them... :D
hipro5
04-26-2005, 05:28 AM
So does this mean if we use the 5V line, and maximizer, Mosfets wont get hot?
Q = What Mos-Fets?......Mobo's or Maximizer's?.......
A = None of them.......You have to pick through bios the minimum Vdimm even with the 5V jumper and then play the Vdimm through the Maxi...... :)
hipro5
04-26-2005, 05:31 AM
lol, it's hipro5's infamous Kingston BH6.
Selling them... hmmm let me see... he even gets anxious whenever someone touches them... :D
:D Time for my BH-6 to come home I think........... :D
Gray Mole
04-26-2005, 06:14 AM
:D Time for my BH-6 to come home I think........... :D
Some things just ain't for sale :bows:
Hipro5 anychance of putting your rather large brain :kissbutt: to work on finding a way to bypass OVP on a DFI NF3. Theres a Maximizer sale or to in for ya ;)
iddqd
04-26-2005, 06:49 AM
What are you talking about? There's no OVP.
What are you talking about? There's no OVP.
er, there is on mine, seems to be about 3.5ish
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57825
What are you talking about? There's no OVP.
As a matter of interest what voltages have you managed, not heard of anyone getting over 3.6 and it booting everytime
Revv23
04-26-2005, 07:52 PM
Hipro5 anychance of putting your rather large brain :kissbutt: to work on finding a way to bypass OVP on a DFI NF3. Theres a Maximizer sale or to in for ya ;)
well you wouldnt need to bypass the ovp as you could just boot at 3.5 and then use the maximizer to raise your voltage in windows...
well you wouldnt need to bypass the ovp as you could just boot at 3.5 and then use the maximizer to raise your voltage in windows...
Yes I could do that, but hell that's messy if you forget, you have to wait half hour with cmos battery out before it will reboot.
In my case it would be 3.3volts cos the OVP seems to change
Ubermann
04-27-2005, 08:57 AM
The ovp is at 3.85 volt on my NF3.
And there is no need to clear cmos or whatever if you trigger it.
Just lower volt and reboot.
ZMarre
04-27-2005, 09:06 AM
Is it just me or are there 2 the same topics going on about this? :confused:
:surf:extreem inventive product :clap: you got for us there Hipro : do you know if your maxi` works with Albatron PX875? :hrhr:
The ovp is at 3.85 volt on my NF3.
And there is no need to clear cmos or whatever if you trigger it.
Just lower volt and reboot.
Glad you said that, gives me hope that a new board might be better. Is it an older board?
Revv23
04-28-2005, 01:00 PM
Yes I could do that, but hell that's messy if you forget, you have to wait half hour with cmos battery out before it will reboot.
In my case it would be 3.3volts cos the OVP seems to change
im not sure why you would need to clear cmos, just lower the maxi back to 3.3 and then fire it back up...
edit - though ive never used this board, so you probably know something i dont.
:lastweek: :off: :cheer2: does anyone know if the "maxi` works with Albatron PX875? :stick: :am:
stealth17
05-29-2005, 08:03 PM
these for sale yet?
ZMarre
05-30-2005, 02:41 AM
these for sale yet?
Nope, as you can see in this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=886454#post886454) similar topic ;)
//EDIT/ you already found out I see :D
Breathless
10-22-2005, 09:18 AM
ANY NEWS IF THIS WILL WORK WITH THE ASUS AV8 Deluxe revision 2 to give a higher VDimm than 3.0 volts??? Hipro??? Anyone? :confused:
stealth17
10-22-2005, 11:36 AM
ANY NEWS IF THIS WILL WORK WITH THE ASUS AV8 Deluxe revision 2 to give a higher VDimm than 3.0 volts??? Hipro??? Anyone? :confused:
check if a OCZ DDR booster will work. If so, then yes. If not, theres nothing anyone can do for you :(
Xenogias
10-22-2005, 11:54 AM
I think this product is cancelled...
stealth17
10-22-2005, 11:58 AM
Huh!!!?????
Xenogias
10-22-2005, 06:14 PM
my mistake,
I just saw that Hipro has recently updated the other thread, I guess it's still coming... someday
biohead
10-23-2005, 05:06 AM
to think this thread started 14 months ago -_-
yngndrw
07-06-2006, 02:02 PM
I know this is going to make me look like a right retard, but ...
.. If you're mobo is providing a lower voltage than the Maxi .. Won't it damage the mobo's RAM Vregs as you are trying to push a higher voltage back through the mobo's regulators ?
Sorry I feel like a retard now, but yea if somebody could please explain how this doesn't damage the mobo. Cheers.
hipro5
07-06-2006, 02:16 PM
I know this is going to make me look like a right retard, but ...
.. If you're mobo is providing a lower voltage than the Maxi .. Won't it damage the mobo's RAM Vregs as you are trying to push a higher voltage back through the mobo's regulators ?
Sorry I feel like a retard now, but yea if somebody could please explain how this doesn't damage the mobo. Cheers.
It has nothing to do with the mobo's Ram Vregs......It has it's own Vreg and feeds the rams by itshelf directly......On some mobos there are some designs that have an output mos-fet to ground......Those are the "incompatible" mobos........Maxi has a Very powerfull output mos-fet(130Watts) and pushes hard the mobos mos-fet(the one to ground - 40Watts) and it can burn it down......In this case, mobo STILL WORKS but ONLY through the Maximizer feeding the rams.......If you remove the maximizer from the mobo, it wont start(no vdimm).......If you plug the Maxi back in, mobo works like a charm again......These are the "incompatible" ones.......;)
If the mobo is "compatible" you pick the lowest vdimm through bios(or whatever you wish) and the Maxi feeds the rams without hurting the mobos vregs coz mos-fet and transistors are like diodes......Alows no backwords voltage ;)
yngndrw
07-06-2006, 02:24 PM
But what about the compatable mobos ? Does it not cause damage as long as you don't provide a voltage which is over the max reverse bias breakdown voltage of the mosfets ?
I don't think I'm wording this right ..
If your mobo is set to 1.8V and the Maxi is set to 3.0V, you have 1.2V going across the mobo's vdimm regulation circuit backwards. Now if there was just MOSFETS acting like a buffer between whatever sets the mobo's vdimm (The BIOS) and the Maxi's vdimm then the -1.2V would not be larger than the MOSFET's reverse bias breakdown voltage, however there are other components components buffering the two, so I'm asking why does the Maxi not damage the BIOS's circuitery.
Sorry if that doesn't make sense.
hipro5
07-06-2006, 02:46 PM
But what about the compatable mobos ? Does it not cause damage as long as you don't provide a voltage which is over the max reverse bias breakdown voltage of the mosfets ?
I don't think I'm wording this right ..
If your mobo is set to 1.8V and the Maxi is set to 3.0V, you have 1.2V going across the mobo's vdimm regulation circuit backwards. Now if there was just MOSFETS acting like a buffer between whatever sets the mobo's vdimm (The BIOS) and the Maxi's vdimm then the -1.2V would not be larger than the MOSFET's reverse bias breakdown voltage, however there are other components components buffering the two, so I'm asking why does the Maxi not damage the BIOS's circuitery.
Sorry if that doesn't make sense.
Don't be confused......:D
The only components involved backwords are the output vdimm mos-fet and the feedback resistor for the vdimm IC....nothing else.....
Some mobos have built in overvoltage vdimm protection, so from a vdimm and up, the mobo shuts down.....:)
your mobo is set to 1.8V and the Maxi is set to 3.0V, you have 1.2V going across the mobo's vdimm regulation circuit backwards. Now if there was just MOSFETS acting like a buffer between whatever sets the mobo's vdimm (The BIOS) and the Maxi's vdimm then the -1.2V would not be larger than the MOSFET's reverse bias breakdown voltage,
Reversed bias breakdown voltage is when a mos-fet don't have VGate........In a "working" mos-fet, we have a VGate over 3.5-4Volts......if you can understand what I mean.....:)
yngndrw
07-06-2006, 02:50 PM
Don't be confused......:D
The only components involved backwords are the output vdimm mos-fet and the feedback resistor for the vdimm IC....nothing else.....
Some mobos have built in overvoltage vdimm protection, so fron a vdimm and up, the mobo shuts down.....:)
Okay thank you for clearing that up. I probably look like a retard but at least I'm an educated retard now lol. :)
Reverced bias breakdown voltage is when a mos-fet don't have VGate........In a "working" mos-fet, we have a VGate over 3.5-4Volts......if you can understand what I mean.....:)
Ah right, I never knew that the reverse bias of a MOSFET only applied when it doesn't have a VGate. We learn something new every day. :D
Great job anyhow. :)
hipro5
07-06-2006, 03:08 PM
Thanks and you're welcome.....:D :toast:
Lalaboy
10-26-2006, 06:21 PM
I have abit AW9D-MAX, Mushkin REDLINE XP2 8000 2x1Gb ram and I`d like to buy a DDR Maximizer V 1.2, but the current ETA is 11/06! (TankGuys) Can I buy it somewhere in the USA?
hipro5
10-26-2006, 11:21 PM
No sorry.......TankGuys are our first resellers in US.....:)
Revv23
10-29-2006, 10:11 PM
I have abit AW9D-MAX, Mushkin REDLINE XP2 8000 2x1Gb ram and I`d like to buy a DDR Maximizer V 1.2, but the current ETA is 11/06! (TankGuys) Can I buy it somewhere in the USA?
Yes the long wait sucks. I just wish i was here faster :(
TankGuys
11-13-2006, 06:07 PM
Maximizers have arrived, and are now in stock! Those of you with backorders have been notified, and your units will ship out tomorrow :)
Oh, and Revv23- your special engraved on is on the way ;)
loopy83
11-27-2007, 02:31 PM
Hello guys....
my Maximizer arrived this morning.
My testsystem
P4C800 Deluxe
Pentium M 740
2x512 BH5
Memtest stable without maxi:
2-2-2-5, 225 MHz, Turbo - PAT on @ 3,19V (VDimm Mod)
Memtest stable with maxi:
2-2-2-5, 231 MHz, Turbo - PAT on @ 3,2V
Just 6 MHz better.... not a good result i think????
I think my BH5 suck (!!!!).... raise Maxi up to 3,6V, but 235MHz isnīt possible :( :(
Any tips to get in FSB higher?
Or are my BH5 really the problem?
THANKS loopy
hipro5
11-27-2007, 11:18 PM
Hello guys....
my Maximizer arrived this morning.
My testsystem
P4C800 Deluxe
Pentium M 740
2x512 BH5
Memtest stable without maxi:
2-2-2-5, 225 MHz, Turbo - PAT on @ 3,19V (VDimm Mod)
Memtest stable with maxi:
2-2-2-5, 231 MHz, Turbo - PAT on @ 3,2V
Just 6 MHz better.... not a good result i think????
I think my BH5 suck (!!!!).... raise Maxi up to 3,6V, but 235MHz isnīt possible :( :(
Any tips to get in FSB higher?
Or are my BH5 really the problem?
THANKS loopy
Ahh......I see you got it..... :)
Better feed your Northbridge with a bit more Voltage OR your CPU has an FSB limit.....It's TOO low for BH5 chips this frequency, so it has to be your North OR your CPU..... ;)
loopy83
11-28-2007, 02:35 AM
My CPU runs more than 250 stable. (devider 5:4)
But maybe the Northbridge is really the problem on devider 1:1....
If thats true, i Have the poorest P4C Board in the world ;)
I will try another videocard to raise AGP Voltage from 1,5V to 1,6V.
I think ATI Cards dont like high AGP Voltages.
Loopy
loopy83
11-28-2007, 06:55 AM
tested 232 MHz with 1,7V VAGP but same errors.... maybe my BH5 are really not so good .(
STEvil
11-28-2007, 07:01 AM
didnt dothans need mods?
loopy83
11-28-2007, 07:14 AM
mods for what?
modded adapter is in use....
saaya
11-28-2007, 09:21 AM
did you try different memory slots?
how much vdimm do you need without the maximizer to get the same speed stable?
Lastviking
11-28-2007, 09:46 AM
Hello guys....
my Maximizer arrived this morning.
My testsystem
P4C800 Deluxe
Pentium M 740
2x512 BH5
Memtest stable without maxi:
2-2-2-5, 225 MHz, Turbo - PAT on @ 3,19V (VDimm Mod)
Memtest stable with maxi:
2-2-2-5, 231 MHz, Turbo - PAT on @ 3,2V
Just 6 MHz better.... not a good result i think????
I think my BH5 suck (!!!!).... raise Maxi up to 3,6V, but 235MHz isnīt possible :( :(
Any tips to get in FSB higher?
Or are my BH5 really the problem?
THANKS loopy
I dont think its the sticks thats are the problem ;) , can you check whats writed on the ic for me and post it :) , i have tested many bh5 sticks and old twinmos bh5 have no problem to make 260mhz+ and can take 3.6vdimm+ without any problems.
I use 3.55-3.6v 24/7 on my 4x512mb old bh5
loopy83
11-28-2007, 12:55 PM
did you try different memory slots?
how much vdimm do you need without the maximizer to get the same speed stable?
without the maximizer 225 are stable at every voltage up to 3,19V. More was not psooible with the VDimm Mod on my Board.
Do you think the other Slot work better with my sticks?
I will try it!
I dont think its the sticks thats are the problem ;) , can you check whats writed on the ic for me and post it :) , i have tested many bh5 sticks and old twinmos bh5 have no problem to make 260mhz+ and can take 3.6vdimm+ without any problems.
I use 3.55-3.6v 24/7 on my 4x512mb old bh5
311WE
with this Database the modules arenīt so bad.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35598&highlight=winbond+bh5+list
results:
"311we" 2.0-2-2 3.40v 260mhz (corsair 3500 512mb@nf3)
"311we" 2.0-2-2 3.80v 265mhz (twinmos 3200 512mb@nf3)
"311we" 2.0-2-2 3.84v 265mhz (twinmos 3200 512mb@nf3)
"311we" 2.0-2-2 3.84v 265mhz (twinmos 3200 512mb@nf3)
Many other users say, that BH5 work not so good on 865/875... NF2/3 are better for BH5.
My sticks are pretested on NF2 with 252 MHz ans 3,3V.... i bought them used in a german hardware forum.
But what other reason can cause my bad results?
Loopy
hipro5
11-28-2007, 01:25 PM
Try and uper a bit your AGP frequency....:)
DonBanana
11-28-2007, 03:24 PM
I was looking for a DDR Maximizer with DDR3 PCB but i couldnīt find one. Wrote a Mail to Plaisio who has the Maximizer in Stock but i couldnīt read the greek-written Mail :D
A Mail to Hipro-tech wasnīt answered. Maybe the Mail got lost in Cyberspace :confused:
Lastviking
11-28-2007, 03:33 PM
without the maximizer 225 are stable at every voltage up to 3,19V. More was not psooible with the VDimm Mod on my Board.
Do you think the other Slot work better with my sticks?
I will try it!
311WE
with this Database the modules arenīt so bad.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35598&highlight=winbond+bh5+list
results:
"311we" 2.0-2-2 3.40v 260mhz (corsair 3500 512mb@nf3)
"311we" 2.0-2-2 3.80v 265mhz (twinmos 3200 512mb@nf3)
"311we" 2.0-2-2 3.84v 265mhz (twinmos 3200 512mb@nf3)
"311we" 2.0-2-2 3.84v 265mhz (twinmos 3200 512mb@nf3)
Many other users say, that BH5 work not so good on 865/875... NF2/3 are better for BH5.
My sticks are pretested on NF2 with 252 MHz ans 3,3V.... i bought them used in a german hardware forum.
But what other reason can cause my bad results?
Loopy
K then its not the sticks.... i have tested 311we(512mb) also and they like 260mhz+ and 3.6v+ , looks like the mainboard or some setting in bios..
loopy83
11-28-2007, 04:11 PM
Other slots doesn´t work too.
Mistakes in Memtest on 231 Mhz.... the other slots are mistake free....
BAD BAD BAD:....
Next step in AGP frequency is in BIOS 72/36... a bit too much i think.
smaller steps are possible with ClockGen.... but no Memtest in Windows, not the real version.
Raise AGP frequency looks like to solve problems with my northbridge.... but 1,7V on NB doesn´t help. Or i am wrong?
Anybody here with P4C800 Board and BH5 with 250+ FSB?
can this guy make some pictures from all BIOS settings, depend on RAM and CPU settings...
Should I open a new Thread? This problem is far away from maximizer topic.
saaya
11-28-2007, 10:27 PM
yeah id say open a new thread.
well in every stepping of bh5 there are some bad chips... its not like every chip from a certain week clock well, so maybe your unlucky... try one stick and then the other stick and check if one is a lot better than the other
Lastviking
11-28-2007, 11:01 PM
yeah id say open a new thread.
well in every stepping of bh5 there are some bad chips... its not like every chip from a certain week clock well, so maybe your unlucky... try one stick and then the other stick and check if one is a lot better than the other
231mhz with 3.2 is more than a bad chip.... if it hade been a bad chip it would hade been more like 245-250mhz 3.2v. 231mhz 3.2v and more vdimm dont help then its the board or something else if its old bh5 like this time.
Trust me on this one ;)
hipro5
11-28-2007, 11:44 PM
Test ONE memory module at a time.....Maybe one of them is bad....IF not, find the "better one" of those two and mark it as "1" and always place it first in the slots..... :)
@ DonBanana: DDR3 PCBs will be out at early January....
DonBanana
11-29-2007, 01:14 AM
Test ONE memory module at a time.....Maybe one of them is bad....IF not, find the "better one" of those two and mark it as "1" and always place it first in the slots..... :)
@ DonBanana: DDR3 PCBs will be out at early January....
Ok, i can wait on this :yepp:
loopy83
11-29-2007, 09:07 AM
231mhz with 3.2 is more than a bad chip.... if it hade been a bad chip it would hade been more like 245-250mhz 3.2v. 231mhz 3.2v and more vdimm dont help then its the board or something else if its old bh5 like this time.
Trust me on this one ;)
I AM GOING CRAZY !!!
New test.... 235 MHz... one 512 MB stick in slot 1:
3,3V errors in Memtest vers3.3 on beginning of test 6.
3,25V no error for the whole loop.
no changes beetween this two tests except the VDimm.
My BH5 don´t like high voltage :rofl: :rofl:
I will test some other sticks.... maybe i can buy some for a good price.
saaya
11-29-2007, 09:20 AM
231mhz with 3.2 is more than a bad chip.... if it hade been a bad chip it would hade been more like 245-250mhz 3.2v. 231mhz 3.2v and more vdimm dont help then its the board or something else if its old bh5 like this time.
Trust me on this one ;)
hmmm if you say so ill trust ya :D
but i think i remember that i had some bh5 that didnt do more than 235 222 with 3.2 volts... on an dfi nf2 board... man that was so long ago ^^
loopy83
02-25-2008, 08:37 AM
Had anybody test the maximizer on a Asus P5KC??
Should I lift up one leg of the coil?
s0lid
03-09-2008, 01:03 PM
ddr3 edition plz :D?
Oj101
03-12-2008, 04:55 AM
I'd love one that could give me 5v on DDR400. My old BH-5s scale really well with voltage, even 3.95v to 4v gave me an increase.
loopy83
03-30-2008, 10:55 AM
Hello,
i have a huge problem with my maximizer.
Board is a Asus Commando with two D9GMH 1024 sticks.
In cases, where the maximizer voltage is lower then the board vdimm voltage.... all is fine.... display shows the right voltage of the board.
but when i start raise the vdimm with the small switches (over the vdimm of the board) my maximizer will become very very hot.... i think the hot spot is in the left corner in the back.
I can not check, if the voltages of the maximizer are shown correct in the BIOS hardware monitor, because the maximizer is untouchable hot... so i better shut down the system. Will not destroy the device.
So where is the mistake?
Is the device broken or are there just mistakes in handling?
I think i should not lift up one leg of the VDimm coil.
I hope you understand my problem.... and can help me....
Are there other options to get a technical support for this device?
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