P4 for Audio, Prescott or D1?

[Netto]

Hi guys,

A friend of mine is going to get a setup mainly for audio recording (nothing professional) basicly to do some mixing on old records and such.

I was thinking.

2.8 Prescott
P4P800
2x256mb Kingston HX PC3200 Cas2
80gb HD

Any suggestions?

Do you guys thinks ir worth the extra money on the Prescott, or should I go for a normal P4 800 with HT?

Thanks

[Netto]

Haaa forgot to say, low budget machine, spend less money possible

thanks

[Kanavit]

the prescotts are the same price as the northwoods if not cheaper, i'd say go with the prescott. you can't lose.

prescotts come with improved hyperthreading, and SSE3 which should boost multi-media applications.

I'm loving mines.

[thephenom]

Originally posted by Kanavit
the prescotts are the same price as the northwoods if not cheaper, i'd say go with the prescott. you can't lose.

prescotts come with improved hyperthreading, and SSE3 which should boost multi-media applications.

I'm loving mines.
errrrr

Prescott is slower than Northwood clock for clock. And there isn't any application that takes advantage of SSE3.

[Netto]

Ehehe, any more opinions?

Thanks

[Lithan]

"And there isn't any application that takes advantage of SSE3."

Assuming that is true, then I'd vote for northwood as well. They are much faster than prescotts at stock. I wasn't commenting because I didn't know how much of a benefit SSe3 would be.

[Kanavit]

unless you like buying discontinued products, i'd say get a 90nm prescott. I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again , if i had to choose again. My system is faster than before in running video and audio. I had a 2.8B northwood chip.

[skate2snow]

Originally posted by Kanavit
unless you like buying discontinued products, i'd say get a 90nm prescott. I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again , if i had to choose again. My system is faster than before in running video and audio. I had a 2.8B northwood chip. Why say 90Nm Prescott since all Prescott's are 90Nm?

And yes, it is pretty normal that your E is faster then your B.... The B is just a 533FSB when the E is a 800FSB and 200MHz higher....

[bh2k]

They discontinued northwoods? No wonder they are so easy to find...

[Karnivore]

grab the northwood, Kanavit is a One Man Prescott Cheerleader, Captain of the Squad even.....

[Perc]

Originally posted by Karnivore
grab the northwood, Kanavit is a One Man Prescott Cheerleader, Captain of the Squad even.....

LOL you guys are mean to kanvits and he just keeps on takin it.. way to go kanavit keep that chin up!!


anyways id say northwood to i had a 3.0e and even at 4300mhz my 3.0c at 3900mhz out ran it??

peace perc,

[bh2k]

we wouldn't be if he would just tell the truth instead of making up bull :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: and his opinion.

[Lithan]

People really can push Kanavit around because 90% of what he says is complete crap so if he starts flaming people back, then he is a troll*.



*Meaning someone who goes to forums and intentionally starts :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: with people: By say, registering at a britney spears fanpage and posting how much she sucks. Or registering at a physics webpage and argueing against fundamental laws of physics.


As long as he doesn't flame back, he's just a pitiably misinformed individual.

[Kanavit]

but i bought one(prescott)! that proves i'm not BS-ing.... if i had an A64 3200+ than that would be another story.

the prescott has tons of features, cost less than the Athlons, and is better at 3dmark03, Super PI, and Farcry.

Look at my timed pier demo Farcry.
=================================
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 52.76s, Average FPS: 70.62
Min FPS: 51.81 at frame 918, Max FPS: 108.67 at frame 1913
Average Tri/Sec: 10080257, Tri/Frame: 142743
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.00
=================================

any1 with similar video card , plz run this demo! ill prove that my prescott 3.0e is good processor.

[-=TriX=-]

What's with the gangbang on Kanavit? He said the prescott had improved HT and SSE3 support and that the price difference between the Northwood and Prescott were minimal--all of which are true. Then he tossed in some personal opinions and his reccomendation. Don't see any reason why you guys gotta jump him.

edit: well I dunno about that faster than athlons @ 3dmark03, superpi, and farcry comment he just added. I think it'd be to everyone's benefit if backing up claims w/ argumentative support was done a lot more often around here.

[Kanavit]

here is a 5.5ghz Prescott 2.8e that got 23sec in 1mb super PI!!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37115&highlight=5.5ghz

http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/3233730401/23s.jpg

and Fugger's no. 3 position on the ORB in 3dmark03 with a Prescott and x800xt. Only Oppainter and o-c rookie are in front using a P4 EE!!!! Macci behind Fugger too with a P4 EE. the prescott is not a bad chip. Check the ORB...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2756040

[Karnivore]

Originally posted by -=TriX=-
What's with the gangbang on Kanavit? Don't see any reason why you guys gotta jump him.


Perhaps if you read back through ALL of his posts you would be more aware of the situation. Kanavit is a self admitted Fanboy to the extreme, this isn't exactly bad, he does contribute some pretty good information.

However, recommending a Prescott over the Northwood core is silly, and doing so on the basis of unsupported features, that MIGHT SOMEDAY give some performance boost is even sillier.

If you want a box for SuperPI, sure the Prescott is it, but how many build a system for SPI? The Prescott is not a bad processor, runs pretty fast, and is quite capable.. But when other processors can be had within the same price range which are PROVEN faster, and a much better value, I think the choice is clear..


Facts:
Prescott IS clock for Clock Slower than Northwood core.
Prescott Runs hotter than Northwood
SSE3 IS NOT supported by current software
Improved hyperthreading (means nothing proc still slower)
Prescott is SLIGHTLY less expensive than Northwood



I still have no problem with Kanavit on a personal basis, I do have a problem when people make purchase recomendations on IF, BUT, and MAYBE....

[Karnivore]

Originally posted by Kanavit
here is a 5.5ghz Prescott 2.8e that got 23sec in 1mb super PI!!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37115&highlight=5.5ghz

and Fugger's no. 3 position on the ORB in 3dmark03 with a Prescott and x800xt. Only Oppainter and o-c rookie are in front using a P4 EE!!!! Macci behind Fugger too with a P4 EE. the prescott is not a bad chip. Check the ORB...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2756040


And here...

What exactly does a supercooled 5.5 ghz processor, or a supercooled 4.4 ghz processor have to do with real life desktop performance?

These are both rare incidences, and far from ordinary. BOTH are the results of EXPERTS tweaking and running the system far from anything that would be done on a daily basis.

We are probably talking about a processor that will most likely spend its entire life below 4 ghz, and I doubt it will end up inder a multistage Cascade, or LN cooled...

[skate2snow]

Kanavit dosnt say the truth, but what he whants to be the truth....

And you cant compare a NW/Prescott w/ a AXP.....

[-=TriX=-]

Originally posted by Karnivore
snip

I don't think many have the time to research through a forum member's history just to comprehend a situation. Thanks for the clarification though. I wasn't standing up for him because I agree w/ his reccomendation (I don't), just thought there was some forum trolling going on. HIs English doesn't seem to be the best either so I thought maybe some of his statements got "lost in translation."

:)

Netto, I'd go w/ a 3.0c; should suit your friend just fine.

[Karnivore]

Originally posted by -=TriX=-
HIs English doesn't seem to be the best either so I thought maybe some of his statements got "lost in translation."


Hmmm, that is one thing I would say Kanavit is not guilty on, but thanks a bunch for your evaluation...

[Perc]

lol i was just joking around up above didnt mean to start a mini slam session :D anyways whata you guys think of the new 915/925 platform? ive been itching to build a new system and that new intel platform is looking tasty does the prescott actualy run decent in this new platform? karnivore dont forget me man :)

peace perc,