View Full Version : Ok, we did some LN2 on CPU/Gfx..
gabbax
07-27-2004, 12:04 PM
Well to make a long story(all day:))short, i just gonna say the most imported.
First if some one have any serious tip, WHY mine (help from my friend Marquzz from techsweden) didnt OC a XXXX :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:, NO not a bad ship its a propp a 5100+ship 4200 on Prommy, but the Sucker didnt started, well sometime it did and not. Is there a "special" temp, that is the "best"? obviusly we let the CPU get to cold:(..Nothing went broke, we did the test on same stuff as NewBeetle have, LN2@CPU,LN2@Gfx,and DI on NB, but NO succes..:) Allways to Coold:) (and dont we want cold?)
After some tests and try@ Pres 21.8A/ASUS P4C800-E modded and done, 9600XT/Ti4400/980Pro..We went over to my XPm2600+ iWe did 3220+, but it went down(to cold...) No screens @ all,but u only live once so we wanted the highest, end this wasnt our day. After we put my stuff in the own, we did a last try
Prommy r404@2.8A
LN2@9800Pro
Started up, did some small runs @ 3Dmark 2001@ 3150mhz+(troubble,to get in Bios(boot issu)
But, then it work fine@ Stockl speed the 2.8A, pouerd in some serious LN2 in the GFX-Container
First:Mem are suck 382(maybe more
GPU:488..jummie..505 jumie 560+Jummie 590Jummie 603Jummie:slobber: 616 that were our last "realy test,nu full run, but a LOT of diff Details in 3D,:D (i can bet my Kids that the card are Good for 630+ there it hung, cuz we poured in to much LN2 after say 10min bench:)
So the point? Damn FUN with LN2, now we do understand why only the crazy japs useing it;) IF u can handle it, i say it totaly EATS the So expensive Cascade...and its lowNoice OC:)
My life il give to this Cill exprience. Nomore DryIce...Just LN2 baby
So, any tip, for "how" i can do this First test better,plz speak
//Gabbax@ TS with help from my best friend Marcus aka Marquzz
saaya
07-27-2004, 12:55 PM
lol, nice! :toast:
btw can you tell me what the specs were for your g4mx run? :D im benching a g4mx as well atm hehe im at 420/700 atm, still on air and no mods.
I wish I understood your english. =/
Spec3
07-27-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by bh2k
I wish I understood your english. =/
I had no problems :D
Nice overclocks...I dream of LN2 :D
Troopah
07-27-2004, 03:05 PM
I dont see too many missprints in his post?:P
clearly its readable :P
afireinside
07-27-2004, 03:10 PM
I read it fine... I demand pics of the setup tho :D
charlie
07-27-2004, 03:26 PM
I've noted this before..........
Don't pour your LN2 in the container and let it boil away before you fire up CPU.... :rolleyes:
Put a thermistor on the base plate, pour approx 50 ml. of LN2 in the container, it will boil off in like 5 sec. but your plate will drop to maybe 15C, repeat on or two times until your base is approx 0C, then boot up the rig at benching voltage, watch base temp from desktop and add LN2 accordingly to run some benchies at -50C then repeat and lower temps to -80C run benches.... then try -120C. This is NOT DI, and you can't pack up the tube and let it percolate for 5 or 10 minutes with 200ml inside before you boot up, lol....
It's difficult to do without a thermometer.
BTW, for those curious, the LN2 will boil off SOOOO fast, that it really takes a 3rd hand to do it right...... in fact note that in the Japanese sites they will say, "Special thanks to HOshi on the LN2 and Kyosho for the mods.....by Kito"
C
saaya
07-27-2004, 04:08 PM
yeah, ive also seen thats its more of a teamwork. i like that :)
gabbax
07-27-2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by charlie
I've noted this before..........
Don't pour your LN2 in the container and let it boil away before you fire up CPU.... :rolleyes:
Put a thermistor on the base plate, pour approx 50 ml. of LN2 in the container, it will boil off in like 5 sec. but your plate will drop to maybe 15C, repeat on or two times until your base is approx 0C, then boot up the rig at benching voltage, watch base temp from desktop and add LN2 accordingly to run some benchies at -50C then repeat and lower temps to -80C run benches.... then try -120C. This is NOT DI, and you can't pack up the tube and let it percolate for 5 or 10 minutes with 200ml inside before you boot up, lol....
It's difficult to do without a thermometer.
BTW, for those curious, the LN2 will boil off SOOOO fast, that it really takes a 3rd hand to do it right...... in fact note that in the Japanese sites they will say, "Special thanks to HOshi on the LN2 and Kyosho for the mods.....by Kito"
C Thanks a lot Mr:C,i will do this next time i run it.And ofcourse, i had Marquzz from TS to help.Yepp, its boling so fast i didnt think its for real:), pour in a little, and "klick" its were gone:D, wee did pour in just a little,first then we checked it out in BIOS, it said just around +5 cels,then pour in just a tiny drop-> 0 and so on...@ -25, just died.....no mather what we did...
Pics are coming up
afireinside
07-27-2004, 10:08 PM
Awesome :D
Marquzz
07-28-2004, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by charlie
I've noted this before..........
Don't pour your LN2 in the container and let it boil away before you fire up CPU.... :rolleyes:
Put a thermistor on the base plate, pour approx 50 ml. of LN2 in the container, it will boil off in like 5 sec. but your plate will drop to maybe 15C, repeat on or two times until your base is approx 0C, then boot up the rig at benching voltage, watch base temp from desktop and add LN2 accordingly to run some benchies at -50C then repeat and lower temps to -80C run benches.... then try -120C. This is NOT DI, and you can't pack up the tube and let it percolate for 5 or 10 minutes with 200ml inside before you boot up, lol....
It's difficult to do without a thermometer.
BTW, for those curious, the LN2 will boil off SOOOO fast, that it really takes a 3rd hand to do it right...... in fact note that in the Japanese sites they will say, "Special thanks to HOshi on the LN2 and Kyosho for the mods.....by Kito"
C
Yep, we figured out that we needed a thermometer right away because it simply was too cold and eventually every hardware we ever tried stoped after a while. And it was really difficult to keep the temperature at a stable level.
Here are some pictures anyway:
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/ln2/towers.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/ln2/9800_1.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/ln2/9800_2.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/ln2/9800_3.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/ln2/9800_4.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/ln2/9800_5.jpg
interman
07-28-2004, 06:28 AM
that is cool in several ways
Crankster
07-28-2004, 07:41 AM
Säg till om ni behöver hjälp där uppe gubbar :toast:
cold_ice
07-28-2004, 10:43 AM
I love such pics, very nice :D
Keep up the good work
gabbax
07-28-2004, 11:51 AM
Moderkort:Abit BF6
Processor:Intel Celeron 300A (moddad, för 3.0v org vcore)
Minne:TwinMOS PC166/256 Sdram
Grafikkort:nått äldre ATI :lol:
PSU:Antec 550 TC
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My erlier record with this 300A@80w TEC were 515mhz
Some pics
Overwiew...
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/abitbf6.JPG
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/cellyminne.JPG
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/cellymodd.JPG
Al in place..
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/abitklart.JPG
Startup..
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/cellykall.JPG
Ice baby..:D..
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/cellykall2.JPG
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/cellykall3.JPG
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/cellykall4.JPG
Result, am i glad?..Yes i am, poppably could do a few mhz more..but have to little time, for testing
WCPUID
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/celly.JPG
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Socket370 366á
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looki %¤¤%/ another 100% OC my sweet Socket370 Celly 366á
i were in in Win a 10times, but it went to hot or to cold, im pleasd about this 740+ result anyway
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/celly366.JPG
Pics:)
http://www.gabbax.org/ln2/celly/celly3661.JPG
Hope u like it guys:)
Troopah
07-28-2004, 02:23 PM
lol omg nice pics m8, we all love these kinda pics :P
:up: keep it up gabb0x
LOL
gabbax and his team of crazy Swedes :D :thumbsup:
masterofpuppets
07-28-2004, 03:21 PM
LOL @ the celeron o/c!!!
Troopah
07-28-2004, 07:16 PM
you got any temps on those celly ocs?
gabbax
07-28-2004, 09:01 PM
Hehe, thanx guys we/i do my best.But it been a ot funnier if the test with my 2.8A+XPm2600+ would work:/
Well many thanx to my friend marquzz,without him, the test for P4+XPM never been done.
STEvil
07-28-2004, 10:14 PM
Got a celeron 266 around gabbax? I may have one and a "new" BE6-II for playing.. race time ;)
//Kung
07-29-2004, 12:04 AM
Hmm Doesn't the frost mean condensation?
Have you like covered everything di electric grease or something?
Marquzz
07-29-2004, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by //Kung
Hmm Doesn't the frost mean condensation?
Have you like covered everything di electric grease or something?
No need, just leave it in the oven for a while after finishing benching does the trick. LN2 is just too cold for any kind of isolation.
masterofpuppets
07-29-2004, 02:11 AM
He should try putting some of that stuff on a 486.
gabbax and Marquzz, do you have a more detailed picture of the GPU container and its measurement?
I have a family friend who has a workshop and can help me make the container so I need to give him the measurements.
gabbax
07-29-2004, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by STEvil
Got a celeron 266 around gabbax? I may have one and a "new" BE6-II for playing.. race time ;) Sorry m8 i do not have one:/...but i gonna find one:D...Race time:)
Troopah
07-29-2004, 09:13 AM
temps on the 100% ocs? ;D
blinky
07-29-2004, 09:54 AM
try to get it to work on the 2600s and 2.8A
heres what i would do, similar to charlies slightly different:
pour a tiny amount of ln2 in so the copper starts to get cold, then wait a minute or two, then boot up, and go into bios, and the temps will rise, theyll prolly start at like -10c and go up slowly as it heats up, after u get to like 20c, pour a tiny bit in, and keep pouring tiny bits in until u get a temp u want (bios wont monitor low enough, use a good thermometer) so this will take ur temps down very slowly, then once theyre at what u want, dump a fair amount in there, so it keeps at the temp, and then reboot, and go into windows, and each time u dump in more will last u like 2 or 3 minutes (im guessing), but basically take the temp down slowly
gabbax
07-29-2004, 10:52 AM
Troopah: dont know:)
Blinky:Thxz m8 il give this a try, i did a similar as u written, with my cellys, and it worked:). To bad i have to leave the container where ive rented it:( LN2 is coming next mounth
Marquzz
07-29-2004, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by arj
gabbax and Marquzz, do you have a more detailed picture of the GPU container and its measurement?
I have a family friend who has a workshop and can help me make the container so I need to give him the measurements.
Here you have some more pics. The easiest way is to measure them with the hardware right away.
http://www.techsweden.org/bilder/torris/alla.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/bilder/torris/cpu.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/bilder/torris/cpu_botten.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/bilder/torris/gpu.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/bilder/torris/gpu_botten.jpg
Thanks for the pics man. Just did a DI run with my 3.0C SL6WK. Managed to get a screenshot at 4.3Ghz. I think it would probably go higher but I need to get a better container. Idle cpu temperature is below -20 (don't know the exact temperature because Winbound Hardware Doctor can detect until -20 only) but under full load, the temp shot up to around -4! It's probably due to having a thin baseplate or I didn't mount it properly, I dunno.........
Penti
08-01-2004, 12:21 PM
Where is the high power hairdrier?
Kamerat
08-01-2004, 05:51 PM
Maybe your old ATi-card hindred you to go past 140MHz FSB in your Celeron testing. AGP speed is 2/3 of FSB, that makes a speed of 93MHz with 140MHz FSB. You should get your hands on a GeForce DDR or some other old GeForce card, my GeForce DDR did 124MHz (AGP 1x) 1:1 on my P3B-F (BX) and 100MHz (AGP 4x) on 8RDA+.
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