View Full Version : IC7 mobo owners!!! You will love this!
Rodzilla
07-24-2004, 06:48 PM
I about Shat myself!!!!
Sitting in front of the PC... Folding like a mad man... And I hear a "POP" "TING!" Not good right?
Well I have a window in the side of my PC so I look over... and this is what I see. The Northbridge HS/Fan fell onto my video card!!!!!! :eek:
I was like... Shat!
The loop that is soldered into the mobo popped out and the HS was just hanging there!!! :eek:
Thank the PC gods... the HS is anodized blue... so it's non-conductive. This makes me a happy geek.
It was a Kodak moment so I got pics! he he he
Rodzilla
07-24-2004, 06:48 PM
yet another pic
Thank god nothing was hurt in the fall.
Nohto
07-24-2004, 07:25 PM
Mine did the same thing. Piece of :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: if you ask me.
FUGGER
07-24-2004, 07:52 PM
I had the same ones come out on that side
Rodzilla
07-24-2004, 09:10 PM
~bh2k~ God must be a geek! ;)
~Nohto~ ABIT rocks! Everythings got its flaws...
~Fugger~ Yes... but did you Shat your pants?? ;)
longshot
07-24-2004, 09:54 PM
been there done that... my IS7 did it also
Tedinde
07-24-2004, 10:18 PM
My first one did that. Everyone i've gotten since and IS7's, I either take some tension off the wire/springs a bit. Or i Heat up the solder gun, Unsolder what's there, Put back through and bend the pins over a bit on the back, Then resolder with some Silver Solder.
This is BS, when it happens on the factory HS.
charlie
07-24-2004, 11:56 PM
Shame on Abit......happened to me, too :D
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eva2000
07-25-2004, 12:31 AM
they should really make a tower case with a wider width and horizontal mounted board tray ... would make installation and maintainence easy and won't have to worry about NB heatsinks falling off onto other gear or heavier cpu heatsinks heh
cold_ice
07-25-2004, 12:40 AM
Happened to me too, I don't understand why they don't use the holes instead of this stupid hooks :mad:
Lithan
07-25-2004, 06:45 AM
I killed my is7-e (one of my first vmods, and extremely crappy solder points if you ask me) before I got the chance to see that happen. But as soon as I got the damn thing, I was worried that it would. The mounting system, though very easy to remove and remount looks almost as unreliable as the cheap plastic cpu bracket on the same board (which was damaged and required replacing with a $2 steel replacement)
masterofpuppets
07-25-2004, 12:59 PM
Thank god I use ASUS rather than Abit. :)
thephenom
07-26-2004, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by masterofpuppets
Thank god I use ASUS rather than Abit. :)
Anus, I mean Asus has the same design..... except they have some plastic reinforcement of some sort.
masterofpuppets
07-26-2004, 01:07 AM
Well my P4C800-E has never had NB HSF problems.
Rodzilla
07-26-2004, 05:51 AM
Looking into it....
It seems that the loops soldered into the board are Intel's doing. It's not that ABIT doesn’t have a dog in this fight...
ABIT uses a more aggressive cooling system on its Northbridge to make overclocks a little more stable... and there design puts too much tension on the loops. Next time I have the board out I'm going to repair the broken loop... and re-solder the ones that are there right now. Silver solder is 10x stronger than the led/tin solder.
I have heard the same exact thing with the ASUS boards… It’s just not as prevalent because they use a mounting system with less tension.
The ABIT boards also have the “plastic reinforcement” (you can see them in the pic at the beginning of this thread) But it does no good… It’s a tension problem. I imagine they are there to protect the traces on the mobo while you are trying to put the tension bar back through the loops…
It's a trade off... better cooling/overclocks... for the risk of popping a loop! ;) I can fix loops... he he he
ZhaoYun
07-26-2004, 08:43 AM
You're lucky to be around to hear the PONG. I know a handful of people who were either sleeping or outdoors when it happened. Imagine reinstalling Windows multiple times and reducing your overclock because of instability, only to find out it was the nb cooler that fell off at fault. :bsod:
winguy
07-26-2004, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Rodzilla
It seems that the loops soldered into the board are Intel's doing. It's not that ABIT doesn’t have a dog in this fight...
How is this Intel's doing?
There wouldn't be such a problem if pushpins were used instead of soldered loops.
Rodzilla
07-26-2004, 08:53 AM
Intel says to use the loops....
Donnie27
07-26-2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by Rodzilla
Looking into it....
It seems that the loops soldered into the board are Intel's doing. It's not that ABIT doesn’t have a dog in this fight...
ABIT uses a more aggressive cooling system on its Northbridge to make overclocks a little more stable... and there design puts too much tension on the loops. Next time I have the board out I'm going to repair the broken loop... and re-solder the ones that are there right now. Silver solder is 10x stronger than the led/tin solder.
Oh brother! I've not seen this happen to any boards but the ABits. First the POS Fan goes out, then the replacement fan, just the one on your pic, dies as well. I ran it for a month without any fan. It worked so well that I finally replaced it with a Zalman like this one.
http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=35-118-214-02.JPG/35-118-214-01.JPG
Used Artic Silver compound to just glue it on.
I like my ABit board, but this is Abit's fault, not one elses. This Zalman works with any well ventilated case. So the chipset couldn't be that hot lOL!
Donnie
thephenom
07-26-2004, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by masterofpuppets
Well my P4C800-E has never had NB HSF problems.
The stock P4C800-E NB HSF is horrible in terms of cooling. It gets pretty hot after like 1 minute of memtest.
Rodzilla
07-26-2004, 09:11 AM
I like this cooler (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-108-022&depa=0) ... It's dreamy!! lol
Swiftech makes some awesome stuff... This HS uses all 4 loops... so it distributes the load... thus... no popped loops!!
Donnie27
07-27-2004, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Rodzilla
I like this cooler (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-108-022&depa=0) ... It's dreamy!! lol
Swiftech makes some awesome stuff... This HS uses all 4 loops... so it distributes the load... thus... no popped loops!!
I liked that one too but the Zalman 7K Cu doesn't leave much Room for anything else. Even with mine overclocked, a little compared to most folks here LOL, my NB didn't run hot enough make me want anything else.
These never popped off any board I've used, even other ABits. The boards cost too much to have none stuff like this happen. The way theit WinBond monitoring chip works or tries to work sucks as well.
Question, what up with the background noises from almost anything electrical? Like, most Fans, things flashing on powered video cards and on mine, forget about using a Nexus Fan controller.
Donnie
brwmogazos
07-27-2004, 04:38 PM
same thing happened to my P4C800E...
i had a NB block connected though...
i have a tt tiger 1 already...u reckon i should be using that one instead of the IC7 max 3s stock cooler cos i just got the max 3 to replace my p4c800...
masterofpuppets
07-27-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by thephenom
The stock P4C800-E NB HSF is horrible in terms of cooling. It gets pretty hot after like 1 minute of memtest.
My cooler got hot after about 1 minute after bootup. That's why I now have a water block on it.
sparkie34
07-27-2004, 06:54 PM
Just seen this thread. I've had my IS7 for awhile and a couple of months ago i got a brand spanky new 9800pro. 3 Days after i installed the card i looked in my side window and i just about had a heart attack! Lets just say i reinforced the loops now!
Rodzilla
07-27-2004, 07:03 PM
:idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:
Holly crap everyone... I just realized something... it's all so clear now!!!! I think there might be a problem with the loops in the Intel chipset MoBo's! Wow... what a revelation... maybe the same conclusion will come to the makers of our precious hardware... yes... our prrreeeeccciooouusss hardware....
Rodzilla
08-09-2004, 08:34 AM
I had the MoBo out of the case this weekend so I took the oportunity to put that loop back in and re-solder the other ones. All is well now!! :)
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