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k|ngp|n
07-13-2004, 04:45 PM
Max im seeing in bios is 2.7...Need a bios update maybe? Vdimm mod? Ocz booster :P ?

k|ngp|n
07-13-2004, 05:17 PM
There also is no adjustment for cpu voltage. I can't find it for the life of me.
****EDIT-- Found it. Goes up to 1.85
You have to enable cool and quiet in bio for the fid/vid multi and vcore options to show.

trans am
07-13-2004, 05:43 PM
I wish asus woud get off their butts and get some downloads for this mobo on the asus site. As of now, there isn't one driver or bios. WTF?

k|ngp|n
07-13-2004, 06:07 PM
Also, it defaults to 11.5x210. When I set to 200fsb in bios and check with cpuz or clockgen in windows, it will show 210x11.5. If I set to 211 in bios, i get 221x11.5 in cpuz or clockgen. I can select 12 multi with clockgen, but It won't stay if I power off.

trans am
07-13-2004, 06:10 PM
Is that a 3200 newcastle or a 3400 claw? what can you get stable in the bios?

k|ngp|n
07-13-2004, 06:36 PM
3700+ cg and Im not even going overclock this thing until I can get more vdimm. I might do 3.3v dimm mod real quick to make sure its the low vdimm holding back the overclock.

I have bh5 running @ 5-2-2-2 cmd 1 about 215x12 or so is all about as far as it wil go at those timings and vdimm.

trans am
07-13-2004, 06:47 PM
my mistake, I haven't heard much about the 3700+ or why anyone would spend almost $700 on a 754. I think most people would buy an fx. But I'm sure you have your reasons. Have you tried to overclock it?
(edit)never mind.

how far can you go(ht) on 1.7v and default vcore?

chr
07-13-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by k|ngp|n
Max im seeing in bios is 2.7...Need a bios update maybe? Vdimm mod? Ocz booster :P ?


:confused:

k|ngp|n
07-14-2004, 07:23 AM
must be missing something big in bios or maybe I got a bastard for a mobo, because I cannot get this k8n-e over 230htt in bios no matter what and over 220htt is still pretty shaky.
Even with 3.35v on vdimm and using lower multi's and dividers.
I tried my pci card, both raid controllers, and onboard ide as well.

Pulled my chip and ram out and threw on shuttle to double check this morning.. and Im typing this post happily@ 245x10 with def vcore and 2.94 vdimm..so I am having issues with this mobo i'd say for sure.

chr
07-14-2004, 09:24 AM
thanks for the info, i'm sure it helps many people for their purchasing decisions

chr
07-14-2004, 09:28 AM
i wish someone else with that board would post some results, and asus's site still has nothing for dl, not even a manual

chr
07-14-2004, 10:04 AM
but could it really be considered as an enthusiasts board

k|ngp|n
07-14-2004, 10:18 AM
I'm ripping on this board! No problems, no complaints

What are you running at? and what's max you can run benches(superpi,sandra) at? Please post some if you can..

k|ngp|n
07-14-2004, 10:20 AM
fsb increase over 250

My fsb goes to 300 in bios.
Which bios is in your mobo trans am?

Arkangyl
07-14-2004, 10:38 AM
have you guys tried clockgen to see if it will break the 250fsb.htt barrier like it did with the AOpen?

any idea on Mobile support either?

chunkylover77
07-14-2004, 03:12 PM
Would you guys recommend this board?

trans am
07-14-2004, 03:29 PM
yes either this or the epox. There are a few issues at this time with the k8n-e but nothing a bios revision can't fix.

k|ngp|n
07-14-2004, 07:36 PM
I think that alot of peeps have high hopes for this board...I do. I'm hoping I will end up using it with the 3700 for gaming rig when I move on to fx for benchrig. Add the fact that that is zero info and reviews doesnt help much.

I grabbed both the k8ne and the 8k epox board hoping one of these can score higher marks than my shuttle. I'll spend a little more time with this asus, then Im going to start playing with the epox tommorrow.
I want to storm the orb one last time with socket 754/ cascade and I need a solid mobo.

BTW---I Can't find any option for HTT link in bios. I noticed you listed it as one of your settings..Is there an actual setting in the k8n-e bios that is called htt link? Or is named something else..ldt?

ekOms
07-14-2004, 07:41 PM
Glad to see a few using this mobo.. just hope these few issues get fixed soon as I am looking to purchase it.

Look forward to seeing your progress in this thread. :D

k|ngp|n
07-14-2004, 07:43 PM
Also if you can, please post what bios revision you are using and if you have over 250htt available to select from in bios.

chr
07-16-2004, 02:31 AM
bios revision 1001

200-300 is available, as stated in the manual

chr
07-16-2004, 03:43 AM
http://users.adelphia.net/~chr/k8n/k8n-e.gif

chr
07-16-2004, 09:25 AM
http://users.adelphia.net/~chr/k8n/ai.jpg

i was hesitant with the 2.7v vdimm issue, but a bios update could fix that. installation of the board was fairly harmless, its paired with a 3200+ as you can see above and some ocz pc3700 EB series memory. the cpu is cooled by a thermalright slk-948u and panaflo combo.

i didnt like the placement of the onboard sata controller right in the middle of the board, so i am running my single raptor off of the silicon raid controllers at the bottom of the board. this required me to create a floppy driver disk and to hit f6 during windows install, like the k8v.

while the asus website this board tops out at 250mhz htt, it clearly says in the manual that the configuration ranges from 200 to 300mhz (ch. 4-16)

as far as the multi being off by .5, i have not experienced this.

the goodies on the box are few, for some reason i was expecting more, but all the basics are there; the black asus ide ribbons, the firewire connector, and plenty of sata connectors.

this board is much more forgiving than the k8v, as far as overclocking failures go. off to run memtest.

chr
07-16-2004, 09:44 AM
http://users.adelphia.net/~chr/k8n/cg.jpg

working locks are good :up:

chunkylover77
07-16-2004, 10:26 AM
Hey Trans am that was me on Hardforums. I am really anxious to hear everyones take on this board. Just got a 6800 ultra to pair with it and a 3400

trans am
07-16-2004, 10:42 AM
I am working on a full review of the board. let me know who wants to see it. I have it saved as a zip but it says the web file is too big(948kb) wtf? I am waiting for my new water block and rad and res to get here. we all have the same bios. I meant in my earlier post that I couldn't get anything stable past 220 fsb yet. mine goes up to 300. no issue with multi. either. it must be the AMD3700. How can i get this review on here? any ideas?

impu|se
07-16-2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by trans am
I am working on a full review of the board. let me know who wants to see it. I have it saved as a zip but it says the web file is too big(948kb) wtf? I am waiting for my new water block and rad and res to get here. we all have the same bios. I meant in my earlier post that I couldn't get anything stable past 250 fsb yet. mine goes up to 300. no issue with multi. either. it must be the AMD3700. How can i get this review on here? any ideas?
I do Ive had the board for a few days with no time to install it. Ill be putting a 3400 under it with some corsair twinx1024ll. Ill post my results later tonight.

surprised noones found a vdimm mod for it(or is there on).

Nem
07-17-2004, 04:42 AM
Mine is working fairly ok so far. Can't get above 220 HTT tho, I'm sure it's as I'm being strangled with only 2.7v ddr.

The locks are definatly working, but have you noticed that when you have the bios set to 200htt standard, clockgen reports the agp as 58 and pci as 33 as normal. Only get it to say 66/33 when at 220htt.

Will a bios update be able to offer more vddr? or is it a limitation of the actual hardware on the board?

Nick

chr
07-17-2004, 06:55 AM
i haven't heard anything, and still nothing has been posted to asus's website. i haven't seen clockgen report the agp as 58 @ 200htt, maybe i'll check it out. also, i don't believe 220 is a ceiling for me, that i will surely test for you, even if i have to let my timings out a little bit. good to hear from another k8n-e owner

Nem
07-17-2004, 07:31 AM
I've now sorted th APG speed thingy by setting it tp 67Mhz in the bios - now the APG and PCI are definatly locked at any speed at 66.9 and 33.5 or something like that.

Not sure now if it's the ram causing the problems. I set the ram to be locked at 200, and also at 166 rather then auto with the hTT speed, and still had problems running at 220HTT. Thats also with the timings down at 2,3,3,7.

Slightly annoyed as the K8V Se Del sat on the desk let me do 220 x 10 and 11 totally stable - and thats without the locks. That was also at 2,2,2,5 timings - ram speeds set by HTT. The max vddr on that board is 2.8v I think. So I now even more think it's not just the ram - or not at all. Can 2.7v be that much worse for my ram than 2.8v on another board?

Nick

blinky
07-17-2004, 12:01 PM
why is everyone testing at 220htt?
someone bump it to 230 or 240

Kriller
07-17-2004, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by trans am
I am working on a full review of the board. let me know who wants to see it. I have it saved as a zip but it says the web file is too big(948kb) wtf? I am waiting for my new water block and rad and res to get here. we all have the same bios. I meant in my earlier post that I couldn't get anything stable past 250 fsb yet. mine goes up to 300. no issue with multi. either. it must be the AMD3700. How can i get this review on here? any ideas?

I would like that review :D

Contact me, I can fix a fast server, 1gbit (sweden)

Nem
07-18-2004, 04:39 AM
Right

I've admitted defeat with this board, it's just not stable - even at stock speeds.

I've requested an RMA - unsatisfactory product.

Can't see the point of having another board sat doing nothing which is rock solid stable, and is actually giving better overclocking results, and also wasting another £100 on this K8N-E. If I return it now I can get a full refund, and can always buy it again at a later date after a few bios revisions - if they prove successful, or even if they release a Se version.

Might have to wait for the DFI offering and see how that goes.

Back to the K8V-SE Del for now then.

Nick

Nem
07-18-2004, 06:49 AM
I'm only testing at 220HTT because 230 causes no post, 240 causes no post, 250 causes no post, you get the idea...

225 also causes no post, but after a cold restart I get a post error saying overclocking failed, press F1 to enter setup to correct.

So thats why

Nick

k|ngp|n
07-18-2004, 09:06 AM
Edit OMg Wrong thread :P

Those results I posted were from the epox 8kda3j rofl

I actually couldnt get the k8n-e to do squat. WOuld not run Hight HTT no matter what I did. I think maybe I got a lemon. It would reboot alot and voltage were all over. It's on the way back as I type this.

chr
07-18-2004, 09:16 AM
nice, so you did the vdimm mod, and running 5/4 right? about how much voltage is going into the memory now

chr
07-18-2004, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by µnrealneo²
My friend is able to use 2.85vDIMM with BIOS 1001, btw. :confused:

strange.

k|ngp|n
07-18-2004, 09:36 AM
Sorry man.....
nice, so you did the vdimm mod, and running 5/4 right? about how much voltage is going into the memory now

Those results were from epox:p

Nem
07-19-2004, 10:42 AM
Right, another change of plans/heart...

As there's still confusion over the Abit board, not getting any great gaurentees on which board revision I'd get, I'm holding off on that idea.

I've gone against everything I've said and ordered some new ram... Corsair XMS4400PT 1Gb (2x512mb) Might as well try it :)

I truly want this Asus board to work, so I'm gonna try this ram, being both a different brand, and also much higher speed - says it'll do 3,4,4,8 at 275mhz with only 2.75v. Considereing I've only got 2.7v to play with I should still see 250mhz I'm sure - if it's the ram thats the problem. Shame I'm going from 2,2,2,5 timings to 3,4,4,8 - but I've seen a few reports that the timings are not so influencial on the A64 systems as they were on the XP's. We'll see.

Fingers Crossed... As always I'll post as soon as I have any news, should be wednesday or thursday.

Nick

trans am
07-19-2004, 10:59 AM
Just ordered CHAINTECH VNF3-250 (to replace $hitty K8N-E DLX) $88 from newegg. The K8N-E was a huge disappointment. I emailed my review to asus, vr-zone, madshrimps, hardocp, and anandtech Editors. A sorry excuse for an enthusiasts board. send me a pm and I will email the review.
take care.

webwilli
07-19-2004, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by trans am
send me a pm and I will email the review.

i have send a pm to you :D

trans am
07-19-2004, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by webwilli
i have send a pm to you :D

You should have it now.

who has a server we can use for the review? We gotta get this up.

webwilli
07-19-2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by trans am
who has a server we can use for the review? We gotta get this up.

here. @ my site www.ocworkbase.com

i have uploaded the review:

part 1 (http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/ASUS K8N-E Deluxe Introduction and layout, part 1.mht)

part 2 (http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/ASUS K8N-E DELUXE, BIOS AND OVERCLOCKING, PART 2.mht)

but my ie dont love mht files. with your agreement, i would make htm files from this mht files.

trans am
07-19-2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by webwilli
here. @ my site www.ocworkbase.com

i have uploaded the review:

part 1 (http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/ASUS K8N-E Deluxe Introduction and layout, part 1.mht)

http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/ASUS K8N-E DELUXE, BIOS AND OVERCLOCKING, PART 2.mht

but my ie dont love mht files. with your agreement, i would make htm files from this mht files.

please change to htm and save edit the 2 into just one. Thanks man!:toast:

Btw, i couldn't get your links to work. I went to www.ocworkbase.com and went to reviews and still couldn't find it. nevermind. got the 1st to work but no pics.

webwilli
07-19-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by trans am
please change to htm and save edit the 2 into just one. Thanks man!:toast:

ok, i will do it... this will take a while ;)

fast move to htm done.
I will do fine htm tomorrow. Here in germany we have now 11 p.m. and i must go to sleep...

first part (http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/1.htm)

second part (http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/2.htm)

k|ngp|n
07-19-2004, 12:56 PM
why is everyone testing at 220htt?

That is the max htt my board would run with ANY MULTIPLIERS OR DIVIDERS....in other words:

220+htt x12,11,10,9,8,7 with 200 divider = no go
220+htt x12,11,10,9,8,7 with 166 divider = no go
220+htt x12,11,10,9,8,7 with 133 divider = no go

see where I am going with this :P?

This is why it's on the way back to zzf.

trans am
07-19-2004, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by k|ngp|n
That is the max htt my board would run with ANY MULTIPLIERS OR DIVIDERS....in other words:

220+htt with 200 divider = no go
220+htt with 166 divider = no go
220+htt with 133 divider = no go

see where I am going with this :P?

This is why it's on the way back to zzf.

ditto. I just got my rma # from zzf too. it won't even post at stock speed now. the k8v is back on for now. just ordered the Chain VNF3-250.

trans am
07-19-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by webwilli
ok, i will do it... this will take a while ;)

fast move to htm done.
I will do fine htm tomorrow. Here in germany we have now 11 p.m. and i must go to sleep...

first part (http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/1.htm)

second part (http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/2.htm)

Awesome!! Thanks a million. I hope it helps. EVERYONE COME SEE THE REVIEW!!!

first part (http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/1.htm)

second part (http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/2.htm) [/B][/QUOTE]

k|ngp|n
07-19-2004, 01:31 PM
Trans am.....I can highly recomend the epox 8kda3j for a solid 250gb board that is fun to play with and really stable. All the dividers worked great and the vdimm mod is very simple.

trans am
07-19-2004, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by k|ngp|n
Trans am.....I can highly recomend the epox 8kda3j for a solid 250gb board that is fun to play with and really stable. All the dividers worked great and the vdimm mod is very simple.

i was going to buy the 8kda3+ because i need sata raid. I got the chain VNF3-250 for $88 comes with 2x sata raid. I hear it performs just as good as the epox or better. we'll see.

webwilli
07-19-2004, 11:54 PM
DONE:

review in html (http://www.ocworkbase.com/reviews/13_userreview_trans_am/)

thx to trans_am to share the review

trans am
07-20-2004, 04:02 AM
Oh man! It's awesome! Thanks it looks great.

LilGator
07-20-2004, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by trans am
Oh man! It's awesome! Thanks it looks great.

Nice review :toast:

Nem
07-21-2004, 04:35 AM
BIOS UPDATE AVAILABLE!!!

http://www.asus.it/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=K8N-E%20Deluxe

All drivers now posted on the site, along with bios 1002 - no details as to what it does tho - but will try when I get home.

I'm very impressed at how fast this bios has been updated, hope it fixes some of the problems, my faith in Asus can then be restored, heres hoping...

Nick

trans am
07-21-2004, 05:05 AM
wow, this must've just happened overnight because I checked right before I went to bed last night. I can't wait to get home and try it. If anyone beats me to it, please list the changes here. Maybe the rma will wait.

Nem
07-21-2004, 05:09 AM
HeHe - It's happened in the last hour mate!

I checked last night, and then have checked twice this morning - not that i'm desperatly waiting for it or anything :D

Nick

Spider
07-21-2004, 06:04 AM
(offtopic)

what's the diffirence bethween the epox 8kda3j and the 8kda3+

(oc difference and options)

trans am
07-21-2004, 06:21 AM
the 8kda3j only has 2 sata and no raid. And doesn't come with a screwdriver. I heard someone mention there's a way to get the sata raid to work on the j model. Neither of them has onboard 1394.

trans am
07-21-2004, 07:39 AM
I just got off the phone with asus driver support. The person I spoke to saw my review on the K8N-E and forwarded it asus Taiwan Engineers. He couldn't tell me what ver. 1002 actually fixes, but he said he would email taiwan and get back to me later.

ekOms
07-21-2004, 07:43 AM
Sweet.. I really hope this BIOS fixes the issues.. I just got me a DTR 3200+ and I know for a fact they work fine in this mobo.. plan to put dryice on it, so I need this board to overclock well.

Look forward to some updates from you guys. :toast:

Nem
07-21-2004, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by trans am
I just got off the phone with asus driver support. The person I spoke to saw my review on the K8N-E and forwarded it asus Taiwan Engineers. He couldn't tell me what ver. 1002 actually fixes, but he said he would email taiwan and get back to me later.

Nice 1 mate, post on here if you find out what it updates, would be nice to know.

I'll be home in abot 1.5 hours from work, and will try it straight away. Should have my new PC4400 Corsair ram at home too to try.

Why do I have to be at work!!!!

Nick

Spider
07-21-2004, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by trans am
the 8kda3j only has 2 sata and no raid. And doesn't come with a screwdriver. I heard someone mention there's a way to get the sata raid to work on the j model. Neither of them has onboard 1394. but do the oc the same?

trans am
07-21-2004, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Spider
but do the oc the same?

it's the same board, so the answer is yes.
please don't crap this thread. go here instead:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38509

Nem
07-21-2004, 10:14 AM
USELESS!!!!!

Right, the file on the site is the wrong size, and will not update the bios, the windows based tool just crashes, and the dos one errors about the size.

So I had a look around and found this:

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock754/K8N-E_DX/

There is a Bios 1003 on there!!!

Updated to that no problems at all - used the windows based tool.

Not a thing has changed - not a single different option, setting, or value.

It even seems less stable to me as I'm getting the raid service error at stock speeds - which I was getting at 220Htt before when I had the problems overclocking.

I've checked all the options to make sure I'm not missing anything, but I'm sure.

Nick

trans am
07-21-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Nem
USELESS!!!!!

Right, the file on the site is the wrong size, and will not update the bios, the windows based tool just crashes, and the dos one errors about the size.

So I had a look around and found this:

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock754/K8N-E_DX/

There is a Bios 1003 on there!!!

Updated to that no problems at all - used the windows based tool.

Not a thing has changed - not a single different option, setting, or value.

It even seems less stable to me as I'm getting the raid service error at stock speeds - which I was getting at 220Htt before when I had the problems overclocking.

I've checked all the options to make sure I'm not missing anything, but I'm sure.

Nick

WTF? The manual says to use Afudos to flash the bios. how did you flash? This sucks!

Nem
07-21-2004, 02:03 PM
Read a page or two further, you can use the program called Asus Update - runs in windows and lets you update the bios from over the net or from a local file.

The internet update still says no update, but I downloaded that rom file 1003 from the asus ftp and used the progam to update from that file on my hdd.

Works fine normally, and saves having to mess with floppy disks and dos etc.

Nick

Kriller
07-22-2004, 09:09 AM
Nem: Have you tested to clear the CMOS? Sometimes ypou ahveto do that when you have used some kind of winflash to get all the new funtcions...

trans am
07-22-2004, 10:18 AM
After reading nem's post I didn't even bother trying. Any updates nem?

Nem
07-22-2004, 11:27 AM
Right, yeah what I always do is flash the bios - from windows uptility if possible, then choose not to reboot, but totally power down. Then turn off psu, or unplug from mains wait for motherboard power light to go out. Then clear cmos with jumper for 30 secs and then power back on again. Set default in bios and then set up bios as normal. Save and exit back to windows to test.

I've now got a modded version of the 1002 bios and flashed to that. Seems the same as the 1003 - still got the raid error on entering desktop. but the second time I've not had the error - so just about to restart and try again. If all seems well - then I'll try overclocking to see what goes.

I've also got the new Corsair PC4400 ram sat next to me to try after that.

Back back in 15 mins to update.

Nick

trans am
07-22-2004, 11:44 AM
has it been 15 min. yet?

Kriller
07-22-2004, 11:47 AM
20 :D

Maybe it overclocked so mucth that he can´t let it go :D

But maybe not :D

trans am
07-22-2004, 11:56 AM
He's breaking the 3dmark2003 record as we speak. 16,000 3dmarks!

Kriller
07-22-2004, 11:59 AM
Yeah!

hehe, enough spamming thou...

But i shure hope that it is getting better, I like Asus, and have you seen their new S755 mb? damn, alot of extras, a card with the same extras on S939 would be a dream :D

Nem
07-22-2004, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by trans am
He's breaking the 3dmark2003 record as we speak. 16,000 3dmarks!

He wishes!!!

Right. Restarted and got the Raid error - so thats not fixed.

Tried newer Raid drivers, from the 440, and 503 beta nForce drivers - exactly the same. Tried again with 1001, 1002 and 1003 - all exactly the same.

Tried the overclocking again with all 3 bioses - still not stable at 220HTT with any of them. All seem about as stable (or not in this case) as each other.

Tried the new ram - will not load windows with both sticks installed at all. Took one stick out and it boots to wndows fine, tried the other stick and got the same - so the new ram is not faulty. I assume this has something to do with the 1T/2T command rate thing - I've got a C0 stepping 3400+ Seems strange that the PC3500 will work with 2 sticks of 512Mb installed tho, and not the new PC4400???

Tried overclocking again with just one stick of PC4400 - exactly the same at the old ram - not stable.

I'm going to scream!

Anything else anyone wants me to try? Any ideas?

Nem
07-22-2004, 12:43 PM
Oh and by the way:

Sandra mem benchmark for the PC3500/PC4400

OCZ PC3500 (2x512mb) at 2,3,3,7 - 3044/3045

Corsair PC4400 (1x512mb) at 3,4,4,7 - 3082/3082

So the cas and latency mean jack on this system!

Nick

trans am
07-22-2004, 12:56 PM
I say RMA. You can always get another if it turns out to be an amazing board. the price keeps going down anyway. Thanks for giving it another chance but I think it's time to send it back. My girlfriend called me at work to tell me she got overclocking failed msg at post. I'm at 210 fsb on default ram timings. I've had it with this board! I'm done!

althes
07-31-2004, 04:30 AM
anymore news on this board

chr
08-03-2004, 08:35 AM
i haven't heard much, the only thing new i've seen on their websit downloads is the K8N-E Deluxe Beta BIOS 1003.005, but i think someone has already tried it with no luck. i might give it a run tonight to see if it changes anything, but i doubt it. i may jump ship to another board manufacturer if i don't see a good update soon as well.

Nem
08-04-2004, 02:02 PM
I'll give an update then.

I've decided to keep the board, I'm getting 24300 in 3dMark01 at stock speeds - with the X800 Pro also at stock. With the Asus K8V Se Del I get about 23500. So Looks like the nforce3 250 is better than the Via K8T800 generally.

I have tried the 1003.004, and 1003.005 beta bioses and have had no further luck with overclocking.

I can get stable at 210HTT, and sometimes at 215HTT. But thats it.

I've got no idea why there is this limit, but I've not found anyone getting above 220HTT at all. I'm hoping for a mayor bios update, but it's not looking good.

I'm going to wait for now and see what comes from Asus for this board, or see what other Companies release, ie DFI.

Nick

Nem
08-04-2004, 05:43 PM
Bios Update - 1003 Release

http://www.asuscom.de/pub/ASUS/mb/sock754/K8N-E_DX/K8ne1003.zip

1. Support AMD Sempron 3100+ CPU.
2. Add a select item to enable FID/VID adjustment.
3. Fix the problem that some CPU will be stable when enabled cool and quiet function.
4. Fix overclock fail issue during resume from S4 if the system ever enter S3.

Impressions

You can now indeed change the multiplier and vcore without having to first enable Cool and Quiet. Also the multiplier selcetion is now in the 8x, 9x, 10x, 11x format and not the 1900, 2000, 2100, 2200 type.

They have, however, reduced the vcore available from 1.85v down to a max of 1.75v. The lower limit has dropped from 1.475v to 1.375v. So basically they have just shifted the entire volt range down by 0.1v

Apart from that, all seems the same. Unfortunatly that also applies to the overclocking results. I can still only get stable at 214HTT no matter what other settings I use for ram timings, voltages etc.

I really thought they had cracked it, point 3 in the fix list seems to be worded incorrectly, thought it should say they have fixed the problem that come CPU's will be UNstable when C+Q was enabled. So the fact you no longer have to have it enabled for multi/vcore adjustment combined with that should have really helped.

Again, we wait for bios 1004....

Nick

blinky
08-04-2004, 06:41 PM
lol they fixed the problem that some CPUs would be stable, i guess they wont stop until all CPUs are unstable at any settings :D

althes
08-05-2004, 03:16 AM
board is really sucking

Nem
08-05-2004, 05:53 AM
What the board sucks at is overclocking, at stock speeds it's 100% stable, not one error of any description at all.

I'm still hoping for it, even if I have to RMA directly to Asus if they release a new revision, or an SE model.

Nick

chr
08-05-2004, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by Nem
What the board sucks at is overclocking, at stock speeds it's 100% stable, not one error of any description at all.

I'm still hoping for it, even if I have to RMA directly to Asus if they release a new revision, or an SE model.

Nick

you can always grab a pair of ballistix and run ddr500 5-2-2-2.5 @ 2.65v .. lol

man those were insane numbers @ AT. im not convinced yet though until i see more users from here with similar numbers, and from what ive seen the AT pair is either a pretested set or super lotto lucky

Nem
08-12-2004, 06:15 AM
Just a quick update:

Bios 1004.001 beta has been uploaded to the usual place.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/sock754/K8N-E_DX/

Can again see no changes in the bios options, and the overclocking has not improved either.

Oh well.....

Nick

chr
08-12-2004, 08:13 AM
wtf is up with all these bios updates that do nothing

Kriller
08-13-2004, 06:50 AM
Thats what Asus do, on my A7V8X-G-Gold, I have beta bios 1015.003, it is notning different from 1001, just that they have fixed 200fsb in cpufreq...

Asus is good on getting new BIOS:es out, but they are not so different from eachother

aagiants
08-14-2004, 06:00 AM
just searchign google, and came up with this thread.

Just wanted to let you guys know that i got a stable OC at 230 fsb, and cant get it stable at any higher, regardless of the Voltage.

At 230 i have the default voltage.

System specs
a64 3000+ w/venus12 cooler
ddr500 512mb
ati9800pro

Ya Ma Yee
08-14-2004, 04:23 PM
Hi this is my first post here. I bought this board a few days ago because it got a great review from a Pc magazine I read. But according to what you guys say there isnt a lot of truth in that review. Next time I will think twice about buying that mag. I will try overclocking the board today once I get my raid issue sorted out.

althes
08-14-2004, 06:18 PM
good luck with the board

trans am
08-14-2004, 10:17 PM
I gave up on that thing 1 week after I did the review. I can't believe there is no fix from asus yet. I'm guessing they are peoccupied with 939 and 775 to spend quality time with the K8N-E. If it hasn't happened yet, it probably won't. That thing is just doomed for overclocking.

Mentaly
08-15-2004, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by chr
you can always grab a pair of ballistix and run ddr500 5-2-2-2.5 @ 2.65v .. lol

man those were insane numbers @ AT. im not convinced yet though until i see more users from here with similar numbers, and from what ive seen the AT pair is either a pretested set or super lotto lucky


Hi guys



Well im getting a pair (2x512) of those tomorrow, so ill test it with the K8N-E Deluxe I have here :).

Menty

IvanAndreevich
08-15-2004, 10:01 AM
I have this board as well. Goddamn K8V can get more on the FSB than this POS. And yeah, new bioses don't do jack.

Mentaly
08-16-2004, 12:15 AM
Hi guys


A little update on the Ballistix they do run 2-2-2-5 at 2.5 volts no problem now for the hard part overclocking a little on the K8N-E Deluxe :).


Menty

Nem
08-16-2004, 06:53 AM
Bios 1004 Official Release

It's available from the usual place:

http://www.asus.it/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=K8N-E%20Deluxe

Look at the release notes too!!

1. Improve the ability of overclocking.
2. Patch nVIDIA SATA hard disk detection.

Gonna try it out now!!

I'll post back soon...

Nick

Nem
08-16-2004, 09:18 AM
New thread started here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40799

Nick.

trans am
08-16-2004, 01:52 PM
It only took 6 weeks! Lol.