View Full Version : Abit 925x on newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-180&depa=0
And a review over at [H]ard Ocp said they achieved about 1066mhz FSB stable on stock heatsink.
Sounds quite promising under a prommy :D .
http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjMwLDg=
It's towards the bottom of the article. And also, does this chipset use the same mounting holes as 478?
Kanavit
06-22-2004, 05:58 PM
Abit is the first manufacture to release LGA 775 it seems. Haven't seen Asus anywhere on the website yet! i think Gigabyte already has LGA 775 on sale at newegg too. what's up with Asus?
No telling...perhaps to caught up with 939?
I'm thinking this is gonna be the path I'm taking with my next purchase...
Kanavit
06-22-2004, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by =w=
No telling...perhaps to caught up with 939? dont' think so, its more likely that Asus is waiting to get the bugs out of LGA 775. RMA should exceed more than projected 2%, with LGA socket 775, since pins are now on the motherboard. Maybe asus is chickening out. bad move, if u ask me.
Also, does anyone know if a 478 Prommy mounting brack will be compatible with this?
STEvil
06-22-2004, 06:13 PM
I dont blame them.. pins on the mobo is crap.
saaya
06-22-2004, 06:15 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37378
;)
hardocp used an ES chip wich prevented the overclocking lock to kick in and allowed them a nice oc.
Why would the ES not enforce the lock? It shouldnt prevent the changing of multis, but still lock the FSB.
And are they releasing an Extreme Edition CPU on 775?
boshi
06-22-2004, 06:32 PM
I'm sure they'll release a 90nm EE.
hey =w= you might double post a little bit less
saaya
06-22-2004, 06:42 PM
=w= the answers to that question can be found in the link i posted... thats why i posted it ;)
there is a 775EE based on the gallatin core (northwood+L3 cache) made in 130nm, there will also be a 90nm EE based on nocona (prescott+L3) but thats not 100% sure afaik.
now theres a 3.4ghz EE gallatin 130nm and there will be at least one more EE based on the gallatin core with higher clockspeed and higher fsb, maybe two, before the 90nm EE chips show up.
and about the lock, the lock limits the oc of the cpu speed (and thereby the fsb) to 10% (15-20% on some boards that found a way to trick the lock) above the max cpu clockspeed. as hardocp used an ES chip with diferent multis, they could reduce the multiplier and raise the fsb without getting above the critical 10% speed increas of the 3.6ghz ES chip (~4ghz)
18x200=3600mhz 10% increase= 18x220=4000mhz
hardocp reached a higher fsb by lowering the multi to 16
16x266=4000mhz
so you see "surprisingly" the max speed they could get was exactly where the oc lock kicks in, wich makes me kinda wonder why they say they havent found any proof of the oc lock.
or the abit engineers also found a way to trick the lock so you can oc the cpus 15-20% like on the gigabyte boards. or they even found a way to disable the lock. but i doubt it, i think kyle etc were just not looking for it hard enough.
im sure they are testing their platform as we speak and will post news about it sooner or later ;)
Godwilling, because my computer is really getting old.
charlie
06-23-2004, 10:10 AM
too bad you have to bench with a PCI Vid Card :rolleyes:
Most importantly, will there be a Clockgen or SetFSB application that will override the OC protection scheme??
C
Kunaak
06-23-2004, 10:12 AM
the Abit AS8 has an AGP slot.
no pci ex, but does have DDR1 support too.
that looks like the best board to me, if you really wanna give these a try.
I figure you might know Kunaak, is ECS a good mobo manufacturer? Their 775 board looks quite promising, and capacitors dont blick the mount of a prommy like all of the other boards I've seen.
This is it here: http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=459
If you can find a cpu to go with it...
I'm currently looking for the 775 version of the 3.4EE. It's slightly better than the 478 version. And with the 250FSB the mobo "supposedly offers" I'll most likely take a chance with it.
charlie
06-23-2004, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Kunaak
the Abit AS8 has an AGP slot.
no pci ex, but does have DDR1 support too.
that looks like the best board to me, if you really wanna give these a try.
yeah, but the one in the link with the 925i chipset has no agp and no onboard video. So strange, thy release hardware with no supporting peripherals..........
C
Kunaak
06-23-2004, 10:33 AM
doesn't really matter to me.
I just see these as prescotts with DDR2 options.
with no PCI EX cards the 925 boards are useless, but even with a PCI EX card, I'd sill avoid it simply cause DDR2 is so damn expensive and slow.
the 915 looks like the way to go to me.
blinky
06-23-2004, 10:37 AM
hey =w= try using the edit button :)
i want to see pci-e cards popping up for sale, so someone can run a lga775/ddr2/pci-e setup and see the pros and cons of those new technologies in OCing
Lol, yeah, I forget about it. But, the X800XT PCIe version is clocked a tad lower at 500/500 if I'm not mistaken. And once again, does anyone know anything about ECS mobos?
Çhrist0ph
06-23-2004, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by =w=
I'm currently looking for the 775 version of the 3.4EE. It's slightly better than the 478 version.
Why the hell would a 755 EE be faster than a 478 EE????
it would be based on a prescott core...which is crud compared to NW...
Originally posted by Çhrist0ph
Why the hell would a 755 EE be faster than a 478 EE????
it would be based on a prescott core...which is crud compared to NW...
3.4 GHZ socket 755 EE is based on gallatin core.
Iridium192_217
06-23-2004, 12:09 PM
what exactly are these new chips? Are they worse than Prescott?
Kalway
06-23-2004, 12:27 PM
ECS = teh suck. Stay away from them at all costs.
ASUS, Abit, EPoX, DFI, Gigawhore (I don't like them but some people do), and Shuttle tend to be the most trustworthy makers.
Crankster
06-23-2004, 12:47 PM
Why yes Kalway. ECS should be avoided like genital-herpes... With that said i´m just puzzled as to why anyone who knows computers would choose intel. Especially as you have a prommy, a S 939 would pound a LGA 775 silly. Just my 0.02 $
enzoR
06-23-2004, 12:53 PM
ROFLMAO!! after reading "Gigawhore" and then "genital-herpes" i couldnt stop laughing :lol: :rotf: :ROTF: :bounces: :up:
ECS isn't that bad if you won't overclock.
@Iridium192_217
the new chips are prescotts. not worse then the old ones
Iridium192_217
06-23-2004, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by jan
ECS isn't that bad if you won't overclock.
@Iridium192_217
the new chips are prescotts. not worse then the old ones
I see, thanks
that would make them worse than the NWs rights?
Originally posted by Iridium192_217
I see, thanks
that would make them worse than the NWs rights?
Yes. Northwoods are faster.
3.2C + i875 vs. 540 (3.2 ghz) + 925X
http://www.anandtech.com/chipsets/showdoc.html?i=2088&p=14