newegg has the 775 cpus in stock

[althes]

let the OC fun begin.
Hopefully I can get one by next week.:D

[joeyddr]

not a whole lot of fun with the 10% overclock you get out of em.

[Perc]

what the hell is a 775 cpu? i take it this is a new intel platform? how about a link?

*edit* ok i c. the 775 is that new pinless cpu intel has comming out.

thx perc,

[craig588]

It sounds really boring. I dont think anyone will have any problems getting a 10% overclock out of their stuff, and sience thats the limit it takes the fun and challenge out of it.

[charlie]

at least they're CHEAP :D
3.2 LGA 775, 1mB L3 800fsB, $299

C

[craig588]

Hey, thats not bad at all. Especially if its supposed to compete with the FX line. (Is it? I havnt been keeping up much)


EDIT: whoa, whats this (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-111-159&depa=0)?

[jan]

Originally posted by craig588

EDIT: whoa, whats this (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-111-159&depa=0)?


Thats Intel's notebook cpu.
Its for socket 479 (i855 chipset)

[HawainPanda]

...they're not supposed to compete with the athlon fx line

[althes]

Originally posted by charlie
at least they're CHEAP :D
3.2 LGA 775, 1mB L3 800fsB, $299

C
you aint kidding

[joeyddr]

looks like there is going to be alot of s939 converts with this 10% bs. It's like having a car that stalls on you if you put a supercharger on it.

[megahurtz-oc]

going to go amd in a short while. intel is getting lame....

[Kanavit]

Holy moly! wow , look! only $199

Intel Pentium 4 Processor "520" 2.8 GHz, 800MHz FSB, 1MB L3 cache, LGA 775 Hyper Threading Technology - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-185&depa=1) Link is a little slow, be patient, getting a lot of hits!

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/19-116-185-01.JPG

looks like the Dothan box, but it's a Pentium 4 Prescott. Wow, i want want one just to try it out! lol

and the model number is 520.:toast:

betcha the stock heatsink is awesome looking. so tempted.

[charlie]

HOWEVER............

In the real world of COMPUTING, you remember that right guys? For that activity we all love..... gaming, surfing internet, looking at family piccies...mpg's, home entertainment, etc.....

The 3.2gHz LGA 775 system with CPU/Motherboard AND X800Pro is the same price as the FX-53 CPU alone.........

Intel will not suffer. AMD has chosen the road as the performance leader.....Intel has chosen the path as the mainstream value leader. There may be the occasional HIGH Priced CPU....maybe a 3.6ghz LGA 775 EE 3mB Cache or something.... but THIS is where we are now...........

C

[HKPolice]

If abit or asus can overcome the FSB lock, then it's worth a shot. Ocworkbench.com reviewed a gigabyte i915p board with DDR1 support, and the DDR1 benches are actually slightly faster than i875. LGA775 mobos and PCI-E cards will still cost more tho. Keep in mind that you'll need at least a ~4.5Ghz Prescott to equal a 4.2Ghz northwood in all benches.

[HKPolice]

Originally posted by charlie
HOWEVER............

In the real world of COMPUTING, you remember that right guys? For that activity we all love..... gaming, surfing internet, looking at family piccies...mpg's, home entertainment, etc.....

The 3.2gHz LGA 775 system with CPU/Motherboard AND X800Pro is the same price as the FX-53 CPU alone.........

Intel will not suffer. AMD has chosen the road as the performance leader.....Intel has chosen the path as the mainstream value leader. There may be the occasional HIGH Priced CPU....maybe a 3.6ghz LGA 775 EE 3mB Cache or something.... but THIS is where we are now...........

C

If you signed up for this forum, you couldn't give a rat's ass about mainstream computing :p

[charlie]

newegg says Dothan is socket 478? Is this true? And it won't work in 875P boards, right?

[althes]

charlie you getting one

[charlie]

Originally posted by HKPolice
If you signed up for this forum, you couldn't give a rat's ass about mainstream computing :p

You talkin' to me? Lol.....
99% of my time is spent doing "mainstream" stuff, the other 1% is spent running Socket 939 FX-53's to 3.44gHz+ and running 23s sPi benchies........

I care about mainstream computing, at least 99% of the time.

C

[Kanavit]

Originally posted by charlie
newegg says Dothan is socket 478? Is this true? And it won't work in 875P boards, right? the pin arrangement is different than 478 . even tho, Dothan has same number of pins.

[charlie]

Originally posted by althes
charlie you getting one

an LGA 775? Or a Dothan? I'll probably grab SOMETHING... I just like NEW parts :D

C

[jan]

Originally posted by charlie
newegg says Dothan is socket 478? Is this true? And it won't work in 875P boards, right?

Yes, there are socket 478 dothans but 875p does not support them.

only i855 and e7501 are supporting the pentium-m.

[Lithan]

Umm... athlon xp kicks intels ass left right and front to back in mainstream value every way you look at it. (Unless ALL that you do is SSE2 Optimized work).

MAYBE once 64bit gets important, intel will have mainstream value (assuming amd doesn't put out a sub $150 939 chip with 64bit features soon). But Intel are the ones saying that 64 bit isn't needed in peoples homes yet.

Right now, the only reason I can see to choose intel over amd is if you simply like the system better. (or you have a pricey intel cooling solution that will cost alot to adapt for amd) I can't think of a price range where intel is the better choice. It's not an ass-whooping by any means (except in the very low price arena... where xp's flat out slaughter Celerons and then pillage and rape the celeron villages) but it's also not too close to call.


Amd puts out a 1.6ghz 939 A64 for $135? Amd is the ONLY thing people should buy. They won't do it though. Cause they are stupid.

[charlie]

Originally posted by Lithan
Umm... athlon xp kicks intels ass left right and front to back in mainstream value every way you look at it. (Unless ALL that you do is SSE2 Optimized work).

MAYBE once 64bit gets important, intel will have mainstream value (assuming amd doesn't put out a sub $150 939 chip with 64bit features soon). But Intel are the ones saying that 64 bit isn't needed in peoples homes yet.

Right now, the only reason I can see to choose intel over amd is if you simply like the system better. (or you have a pricey intel cooling solution that will cost alot to adapt for amd) I can't think of a price range where intel is the better choice. It's not an ass-whooping by any means (except in the very low price arena... where xp's flat out slaughter Celerons and then pillage and rape the celeron villages) but it's also not too close to call.


Amd puts out a 1.6ghz 939 A64 for $135? Amd is the ONLY thing people should buy. They won't do it though. Cause they are stupid.

WELL............
Not quite ;)
XP-M at 2.7ghz STILL get's it's lunch handed to it by the P4 @ 3.5 in MOST benchmarks and realworld app's. PLUS, it's not NEW. NEW is fun, New sells............
Don't get me wrong, if I was building kid sister a rig, it wouldn't be a P4.....it'd be XP-M, refurb A7N8X/NF7-S, Generic DDR and a refurb 9800Pro......... but that's just "us".
For the REST of the world, Intel will sell jillions of these things.... imagine the Gateway, DELL, HP, etc advertisements and the specials, $1799 with 17" LCD monitor and such............
Intel will score a victory as a COMPANY, as a business venture..... even if AMD does kick their A** in performance.

C

[saaya]

you guys think thats cheap? LOL it might be cheapER compared to the northwoods, but they are NOT cheap!

i paid 40€ for my 1700+@2.3ghz like 1 year ago and it still beats the 520!

and lets say that prescott ocs to 3.6ghz, then its still only slightly faster than my current cpu, and my mobile 2400+@2.7ghz kicks the 520's butt even when you oc it beyond 3.6ghz and only cost me 100$! so stop saying those new intel chips are cheap! ^^

[trueplaya4ever8]

i think they are cheap, considering they are brand new...

[Arkangyl]

So, who's going to try a 775 and see how they scale and OC?

We know the A64 beats them at stock but theses new sockets might offer some scalability, just be careful not to break them...

One thing (ok, not just one thing...) about them bugs me, the pins appear to have some bend to them so I'm thinking that if you put a waterblock on them and use the screw you;ll never get the same great contact because you're pushing the CPU down too so you only get light pressure on the CPU thus the only thing you're doing is crushing the socket....

[DeathMonk]

Originally posted by charlie
AMD has chosen the road as the performance leader.....Intel has chosen the path as the mainstream value leader.

C

You really think they "chose" to be the value/mainstream leader? I'd bet my balls that they would have loved to be the leader in both performance AND value. AMD just came out with something that they really couldn't compete with at a high level (availability/price/performance).

[Kunaak]

take a closer look at the boards.

only one is available with AGP.
the abit AS8.

all the others are PCI express only, maybe PCI cards would work on the boards but why bother at that point?

[Lithan]

Originally posted by charlie
WELL............
Not quite ;)
XP-M at 2.7ghz STILL get's it's lunch handed to it by the P4 @ 3.5 in MOST benchmarks and realworld app's. PLUS, it's not NEW. NEW is fun, New sells............
Don't get me wrong, if I was building kid sister a rig, it wouldn't be a P4.....it'd be XP-M, refurb A7N8X/NF7-S, Generic DDR and a refurb 9800Pro......... but that's just "us".
For the REST of the world, Intel will sell jillions of these things.... imagine the Gateway, DELL, HP, etc advertisements and the specials, $1799 with 17" LCD monitor and such............
Intel will score a victory as a COMPANY, as a business venture..... even if AMD does kick their A** in performance.

C

Well, when I hear mainstream, I think nonoverclocked. The cpu I see getting sold for ~$100 now is the 2.4a (prescott). And an xp-m 2600+ (which is cheaper) kicks the crap out of it.

Even overclocked. I'd wager my 2600+ at 2800mhz could handle a 3.6prescott without much problem.

And yeah. Intel could release a giant elephant turd and call it Pentanium. They'd make millions cause of the idiots oems like dell sells to. (OMG I CAN OPEN MY EMAIL AT A GAJILLION MHZ!) Intel is like microsoft.... so dug into the industry it can't fail.

Im actually surprised at how people count out xp's these days. I recall my Tbred (256k) was keeping up damn well with my 3.3ghz 2.4c at only 2533mhz. My 512k 2610mhz (everyday, quiet cooling in a 90* room) beats my old tbred hands down. If noise didnt bother me, slk900 + tornado = 100% stable 2800mhz on this puppy... and it just slaps around any score I've gotten before, and this is with only 200mhz FSB Find someone who's cool with only 512megs ram and a dfi board, and I'd have some sick scores going on (for a 24/7 capable 140$ mobo/cpu combo).

[bias_hjorth]

Originally posted by charlie
WELL............
Not quite ;)
XP-M at 2.7ghz STILL get's it's lunch handed to it by the P4 @ 3.5 in MOST benchmarks and realworld app's. PLUS, it's not NEW. NEW is fun, New sells............
Don't get me wrong, if I was building kid sister a rig, it wouldn't be a P4.....it'd be XP-M, refurb A7N8X/NF7-S, Generic DDR and a refurb 9800Pro......... but that's just "us".
For the REST of the world, Intel will sell jillions of these things.... imagine the Gateway, DELL, HP, etc advertisements and the specials, $1799 with 17" LCD monitor and such............
Intel will score a victory as a COMPANY, as a business venture..... even if AMD does kick their A** in performance.

C

very well said.. Thats exactly what Intel is doing and thats the reason why there keep the margin of the market :)

[Kanavit]

, i can see a lot of people here buying LGA 775, and trying to overclock it. lets see who can do more than 20%! there will be a lot of LGA 775 threads here on this forum , saying " wft, why can t i do 4ghz on 1.5v cascade!".

[bias_hjorth]

Originally posted by Lithan
Well, when I hear mainstream, I think nonoverclocked. The cpu I see getting sold for ~$100 now is the 2.4a (prescott). And an xp-m 2600+ (which is cheaper) kicks the crap out of it.

Even overclocked. I'd wager my 2600+ at 2800mhz could handle a 3.6prescott without much problem.

And yeah. Intel could release a giant elephant turd and call it Pentanium. They'd make millions cause of the idiots oems like dell sells to. (OMG I CAN OPEN MY EMAIL AT A GAJILLION MHZ!) Intel is like microsoft.... so dug into the industry it can't fail.

Im actually surprised at how people count out xp's these days. I recall my Tbred (256k) was keeping up damn well with my 3.3ghz 2.4c at only 2533mhz. My 512k 2610mhz (everyday, quiet cooling in a 90* room) beats my old tbred hands down. If noise didnt bother me, slk900 + tornado = 100% stable 2800mhz on this puppy... and it just slaps around any score I've gotten before, and this is with only 200mhz FSB Find someone who's cool with only 512megs ram and a dfi board, and I'd have some sick scores going on (for a 24/7 capable 140$ mobo/cpu combo).

Its called marketing.. whether you got the greatest cpu or not Intel marketing programs seems very well "crafted"..

Btw even AMD thinks of the xp cpu as old.. And as charlie said old stuff dont sell whether "they" are any good or not.. The majority of people dont want a xp-m 2400 cause it´ll only run 2ghz and its based on a very very old platform.. I´ll bet AMD is selling more barton 2500 and 2800 than xp-m by far.. As I said before the majority of people couldnt care less about overclocking.. The ones who do only counts like 3-5%
just my 2 cents :)