ST or LS??

[platty]

I was just going to change form my watercooled system to a phase change system when s939 hits the UK but the unfortunate events at Nventiv have made me have to reconsider my plans.

Was planning on getting the Mach 2 GT. Now I have been offered a ST but the other option is the Vapo LS.

The only thing tat has put me off it so far is I've heard it is quite loud. I know there's gonna be a few people on here with these units. Whats your impression of them?

Cheers for any advice!!

[charlie]

tough choice...
ST=Bankrupt Company, customer support?
or LS?
Noisey, but less powerful cooling than GT...

[masterofpuppets]

nVentiv are dead so a Mach II GT is out of the question now anyway unless you can pick one up from somewhere that still has em.

[pkrew]

If you go over to XR and read the post about the LS vs the GT you'll see that bowman stated that the noise level of both is about the same and both are quiet. Having said that I'd go for the LS. From everthing I've seen to this point the LS performs slighly better then the ST/mach II and has a much better package then the ST.

[platty]

Have seen a unused second hand GT over here but its going to be either a ST or an LS.

[platty]

Originally posted by pkrew
If you go over to XR and read the post about the LS vs the GT you'll see that bowman stated that the noise level of both is about the same and both are quiet. Having said that I'd go for the LS. From everthing I've seen to this point the LS performs slighly better then the ST/mach II and has a much better package then the ST.

I'll go give that a read, thanx

[megahurtz-oc]

Originally posted by charlie

Noisey, but less powerful cooling than GT...


dude the ls is not noisy. do you have one? have you even heard one? or are you still wrapped up in the bankrupt companys pr?

[Shane5578]

Originally posted by charlie

Noisey, but less powerful cooling than GT...

asetek has an excuse now, the LS tuned for higher heatloads than the GT.

and its looking to be true from bowmans hints.:p:

i don't mind the sound the LS, its quieter than my previous aircooled rig :)

[aoc007]

Originally posted by Shane5578
asetek has an excuse now, the LS tuned for higher heatloads than the GT.

and its looking to be true from bowmans hints.:p:

i don't mind the sound the LS, its quieter than my previous aircooled rig :)

What was your air cooling? Im considering buying a LS this summer if I get some money.

[charlie]

Originally posted by megahurtz-oc
dude the ls is not noisy. do you have one? have you even heard one? or are you still wrapped up in the bankrupt companys pr?

Actually I'd LOVE to have an LS for a 24/7 rig... not quite cool enough for my kinda' benching, but I LOVE them nonetheless.

C

[megahurtz-oc]

Originally posted by charlie
not quite cool enough for my kinda' benching, but I LOVE them nonetheless.

C
what are your best BENCHING numbers?

[aoc007]

Originally posted by megahurtz-oc
what are your best BENCHING numbers?

Yeah how come we never seen your benches? Put your ocs in your sig.

[pkrew]

Originally posted by megahurtz-oc
what are your best BENCHING numbers?

I think that charlie is thinking of either dry ice or cascade cooling.

[lalPOOO]

Originally posted by aoc007
Yeah how come we never seen your benches? Put your ocs in your sig.

Probably because he doesn't seem to stick with hardware for extended periods of time, and has a fair amount of it. Also, its pretty hard to use dry ice 24/7 so he'd have to either put his dry ice numbers or his 24/7 numbers in. Course thats just a guess.

[charlie]

Just to give a brief run down on my benching the last year or two:
There's been lot's of threads with my projects...

Athlon 2200+ T-bred/KX7-333R/9700pro @2200mhz
Athlon 2200+T-bred/A7N8X Dlx./9700Pro @2300mHz

P4 2.66/Albatron PX845PEVPro/9700Pro @ 3800mHz
TEC cooled with chilled water

P4 2.66/Granite Bay/9700Pro @ 3900mHz on DI, 20K 3Dmark
P4 2.66/P4C800D-E/9800Pro @ 4000mHz on DI
P4 2.66/IC7/9800Pro @ 4113mHz on DI
P4 2.66/P4S800D-E/9800XT AIR

Athlon 64 FX-51/SK8N/CMXRE512/9800XT
2860mHz, 613/451, 28,773 3D mark2001 (at the time, #3 in the world) DI on CPU, r22 Phase Change on GPU.

Athlon 64 FX-51/SK8N on DI 3160mHz MAX DI
Athlon 64 FX-51/SK8V on DI 3200mHz MAX DI

Athlon XP-M 2600+/NF7-S v2 @ 3100mHz DI

P4 3.0E ES Prescott/IC7 @ 4609mHz DI
P4 2.8A Prescott/IC7-G @ 4638mHz DI 32s SuperPi @ 4247mHz


And Now....
AV8 Deluxe
FX-53
autocascade (-1xxC by Chilly1)
BH-5
6800U/X800XT
DI/LN2 on CPU/GPU

That's all I can think of now... but I've played with some pretty nice hardware....killed a fair share of it, too.

[charlie]

....done Charlie STYLE

[charlie]

and more

[charlie]

mmmmmmm.............

[Bulldog20]

This thread did make me laugh :D

Nice clocks Charlie :thumbsup:

[T07N]

Sorry if I'm going off topic but why is the card still working when there's ICE on it?

[Primal]

Nice thread hijacking guys! :stick:

[pkrew]

Originally posted by Primal
Nice thread hijacking guys! :stick:


sometimes you just have to go with the flow :toast:

[Shane5578]

Originally posted by aoc007
What was your air cooling?

i was running an 80mm delta at 7volts

[aoc007]

Originally posted by charlie
And Now....
AV8 Deluxe
FX-53
autocascade (-1xxC by Chilly1)
BH-5
6800U/X800XT
DI/LN2 on CPU/GPU
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: Whered you get the S939 stuff and 6800U? Any benches so far?

[charlie]

6800U soon, 939 next week, chiller later :D

C

[aoc007]

Originally posted by charlie
6800U soon, 939 next week, chiller later :D

C
Excellent :D Show us some extreme overclocks 6800U vs. X800XT and settle the dispute.

[shogan191]

platty, I just got my LS about 2 weeks ago. It's not noisy at all. Infact it's quieter than my air cooled that was using an slk900U and a SmartCase Fan 2. The case fans I have are louder than the LS. It's not quiet like a Dell LOL but it's not irritating. Temps for my P4 3.2 running at 4.18 stable are at -48C with the Fans at 75% and Heaters at 25%. For everyday use I can turn the fans down to 35% and the heaters down to 15% and the temps are -43 as I'm posting. I'm real happy with mine. Looks good, mounts easy, no noise, and Ice Cold. Reminds me of my Xwife. :D

[aoc007]

[i]I'm real happy with mine. Looks good, mounts easy, no noise, and Ice Cold. Reminds me of my Xwife. :D [/B]

hahaha nice one looks like the LS is definitely the best bang for the buck retail phase change cooler.

[platty]

Originally posted by shogan191
platty, I just got my LS about 2 weeks ago. It's not noisy at all. Infact it's quieter than my air cooled that was using an slk900U and a SmartCase Fan 2. The case fans I have are louder than the LS. It's not quiet like a Dell LOL but it's not irritating. Temps for my P4 3.2 running at 4.18 stable are at -48C with the Fans at 75% and Heaters at 25%. For everyday use I can turn the fans down to 35% and the heaters down to 15% and the temps are -43 as I'm posting. I'm real happy with mine. Looks good, mounts easy, no noise, and Ice Cold. Reminds me of my Xwife. :D

Cheers. Are you and other people doing the optional greasing of the socket step??

[Ratax]

I'm using vaseline instead that... (don't missunderstand this :D )

The minimum my evaporator get's idle is -41º and about -36_-33º in full.
My A643200+@1,856v@2610Mhz goes to +3º_+6º when in full.
Not only at these speed or voltage... in full the cpu gets near positive temp's very easily at stock speeds...
Do you guys think it maybe be a bad overclocker CPU problem? It's possible that my Vapo LS is bad calibrated?

Best regards!

[pkrew]

Originally posted by platty
Cheers. Are you and other people doing the optional greasing of the socket step??

Yes, you should do the greasing for the socket and the cpu pins. I use dialetric compound I got from napa auto. $7 for a good sized tube

[shogan191]

Yep greased using the stuff that came with the unit. Still have enough for another application if need be. Will probably look for dielectric grease when I need more. Wasn't that much of a mess.

[CCW]

Bowmans comparative review of the GT and LS is up now

[shogan191]

thanks,