worth getting a 2.4A?

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i have a 2.4b that wont even do 3.1 3d stable, so would getting a 2.4 prescott be an improvement? i have watercooling, what would temps be like?

[FUGGER]

Do you have a chiller on your water loop?

Prescotts can go far with no volt increase, but I am not sure how effective your water cooling is.

[IvanAndreevich]

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Depending on your board, I would probably stay away from 2.4A. I'd go for a 2.8 M0 that would probably do 3.6 Ghz no sweat.

[afireinside]

Good water would keep the temps down but the question is how would it do OC wise without supercooling?

Also, what mobo do you have?

[Perc]

well let me say this... i dont know much about the 2.4a's but i know they are a prescott core no? i just got a prescott 3.0E ES and with the chip running 3759mhz at defualt v-core 1.33v the chip realy puts out some heat! under a load using a mach1 to cool the damm thing im at around 4.5c thats some serious heat considering my 3.0C at 4gigs 1.6v stay at -9c/-12c under laod!! I would deff consider the heat the thing puts out when deciding to buy this chip thats for sure. like i said before im not to sure about the 2.4a and what kinda heat it puts out but if its a prescott core i would imagine it puts out alot of heat..... good luck make good choices :D

peace perc,

[IvanAndreevich]

Perc
Mach 1 was never intented for such load. I think it needs a recalibration to handle it properly. If that's done, the temperature shouldn't be that horrible.

[Tedinde]

I bought a 2.4 prescott last week from newegg refurb retail for $109 they are $123 new now. I can get 3.6 on air max. Im going to try it in my vapo later today.

[althes]

keep us abreast of the scores tedinde

[novagamer]

Originally posted by Tedinde
I bought a 2.4 prescott last week from newegg refurb retail for $109 they are $123 new now. I can get 3.6 on air max. Im going to try it in my vapo later today.

What kind of air? Stock?

Also.. do you think there is a chance to get a stable 4ghz out of a 2.4a with an sp-94 and a 65cfm 92mm fan? I can't decide what to do but I have 2 ic7 series boards waiting for processors.

[JWB]

4ghz on air, not a chance of happening with the 2.4a especially stable. A 2.8C would be a good idea and not too pricey. You could also increase your cooling with a chiller, which would raise your clocks by quite a bit but you would have to read up in the chilled liquid section of the fourms.

[novagamer]

2.4a's hit 3.6 on the stock HSF, so I don't really think that 4ghz is out of the question for much better air, but that's why I'm asking :). I have bh-5 that I want to run 1:1 and a 2.8c would need at least ~260 fsb to get to the same clock as a 2.4 at 200fsb, and both processors can probably do that but not much more on air. Although I'd be satisfied with 260fsb, I don't think that my ram will be able to do that (max I've gotten is ~235 2-2-5-2 w/ PAT on, but no vtt fix on a max-3.) So I'm not really sure what to do heh.

I've also read that most 2.8's don't o/c very well. People seem to be getting golden 3.0c chips but I have a D1 here and it won't go over 3400 on decent air (swiftech) stable at any voltage :(

OP, we need to know what kind of w/c setup you have :)

[charlie]

There's a difference between "hitting" 4 gHz on air and "running" at 4 gHz on air, lol. I don't consider it valid if you're talking about suicide screenshots with 80 x 120mm fan adapters, open windows, 10C ambient temps and other such things...
A 4gHz 24/7 AIR cooled processor is quite rare, ESPECIALLY at the price of the 2.4A....the vaunted 3.0C is $200+

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[Perc]

Originally posted by IvanAndreevich
Perc
Mach 1 was never intented for such load. I think it needs a recalibration to handle it properly. If that's done, the temperature shouldn't be that horrible.

oh yeah? who should i talk to about getting this done? i realy need to get this thing tuned up then cause i just cant see runing that hot when im using a sub zero cooling system??

thx perc,

[IvanAndreevich]

Perc
I'd talk to bowman1964. I bet you can send him your unit and he'll get it modded for ya. PM him.

[novagamer]

Thanks Charlie, that's basically what I wanted to know:). Might have to invest in a decent w/c rig.. maybe a Mach1. I want something sorta quiet and pretty cheap for 24/7 usage, I'm sick of having a screamer on my cpu when I clock high and want to game.

[Tedinde]

Originally posted by charlie
There's a difference between "hitting" 4 gHz on air and "running" at 4 gHz on air, lol. I don't consider it valid if you're talking about suicide screenshots with 80 x 120mm fan adapters, open windows, 10C ambient temps and other such things...
A 4gHz 24/7 AIR cooled processor is quite rare, ESPECIALLY at the price of the 2.4A....the vaunted 3.0C is $200+

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DFGUI or F@H is always in my startup menu's. I dont consider it stable unless it folds.

My 3.2 chip will do 4ghz on air and 4.2 in my Vapo folding which i had to put up screenshots for "non" believers. It all has to do with if you get a good chip from the door. Charlie was actually the one that questioned mine probably 4 months ago doing it in a Vapo.

And Yes my temps are around +25 Celsius while folding. With the 2.8 prescott i had @ 3.9ghz temps were almost +40 Celsius in my Vapo PE which clearly is stumbling.

It has served me through 20+ MB's and testing over 50+ cpu's AMD and Intel.

i've never been a fan of hail mary screen shots if you read all my "threads" I start on chips and boards.

I run 3dmark with DX9 and XP and a nice year old windows install. and run it from start to finish, Not individual.

Those 2.4a Prescott's @ 4ghz on air are Water are extremely rare. The only reason i would ever buy another prescott was because it was so cheap. I learned my "hot" lesson on the 2.8 prescott i reviewed in here first.

Run far from the Prescott's. I did a little review of the 2.4a in The "other" forum which i wont link to.

I still havnt put it in my vapo, but im sure the chip will bring My vapo PE to it's knees like the last prescott.

[Kunaak]

I built my little brother a PC about 4 weeks ago, with refurbished parts from newegg with a asus P4P800 and 2.4A with 1 gig of twinmos 3200 (4x256) with a R9800 pro.

all for about 350.

this set up is doing 19k everytime and running 3.6 ghz (18x200) for hours on end while my brother plays games and leaves me alone to screw up my own PC ;)

these 2.4A prescotts are amazing.
hyperthreading, who cares, I never use it.

3.6 ghz with 1 meg cache for $110 for a 10 year old gamer kid.
it doesn't get much better then that.

[Tedinde]

I tested the 2.4a in a Epox 4ga board and a Abit BD7. Fine chip for those old board if you have one laying around like i do.

Or a refurb board from newegg.

Yes it's slower than a northwood, yes it's hot but they dont seem to mind running hot.

[althes]

I will be getting a 2.4a to test this week, will use a ai7 and p4c800e.

[JWB]

Hmm it seems alot of people have got 3.6Ghz but not 4Ghz! It took Futto Kun using liquid nitrogen to get 4.4Ghz and that is SIX cooling grades above normal air (air->water->water chiller->Dry Ice->direct Die->cascade->LN2) therefore until you show me a screen shot I will not belive;)

BTW LN2 is between -346 and -320 fahrenheit. So try your best bud:p:

http://www.vr-zone.com/ocdb/data.php?id=75&intel_or_amd=intel

EDIT: DiPu got 4.4ghz with LN2 also, see overclocking forum.

[althes]

very nice ln2 score

[charlie]

Originally posted by JWB
Hmm it seems alot of people have got 3.6Ghz but not 4Ghz! It took Futto Kun using liquid nitrogen to get 4.4Ghz and that is SIX cooling grades above normal air (air->water->water chiller->Dry Ice->direct Die->cascade->LN2) therefore until you show me a screen shot I will not belive;)

BTW LN2 is between -346 and -320 fahrenheit. So try your best bud:p:

http://www.vr-zone.com/ocdb/data.php?id=75&intel_or_amd=intel

EDIT: DiPu got 4.4ghz with LN2 also, see overclocking forum.

That's just not a very good OC, lol
On my 3.0E ES I hit 4609mHz, and on my 2.8A I hit 4638, on DI.

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