i want to get a new cpu

[wicktron]

i want to get a new p4 cpu, but dont know what to get. right now, i have a 2.4c m0 that does 3.3ghz @ near stock volts using zalman cnps7000a-alcu cooling.

i just replaced my epox 4pca3+ with an asus p4c800-e that is currently being modded by hell fire.

now for the question; what cpu to get!? ive been ignoring the intel side of things for a while now cuz ive been wanting to go to a64, but i think ill wait for s939 to become more mature. help me out guys. i do not plan to use extreme cooling, because i don't have the funds. the most ill do is thermalright sp94 with a fan that has nice performance/noise ratio.

oh, and i have some ocz pc3500 eb's to go with it! what cpu???

[Kanavit]

i would start with the P4 3.0E or better. somepeople managed to get 4ghz on air with this baby.

[wicktron]

Originally posted by Kanavit
i would start with the P4 3.0E or better. somepeople managed to get 4ghz on air with this baby.

prescott is worth the heat and performance difference?

[OC_Newbee]

Hey I'm in the same situation as you are. I myself just switch from my 4PCA3+ rev 2.0 into the Asus P4C800E-Deluxe and also being modded by HF. I just sold my 3.0C about a couple of week ago and only have this 2.4C to play with and looking to buy a new CPU. The max my 2.4C can do on my 4PCA3+ is 287fsb(3444mhz), I'm going to play around with this 2.4C for a while as soon as I get my board back but eventually I will want to grab another cpu. I might try and find another 3.0C with the s-spec of SL78Z 30 caps which I haven't seen hit the shelves yet. If not I might get the 3.2C to play with.

[a5h]

I'd get a 3.0c

look for any with 30 caps ...mine hits 3.7 on air ...and 4.2 stable under prommie and 4.4 Super PI stable.

some go wayyy better tho!! ...4 G on air

but if i were you id keep the 2.4c and just wait ...i also upgraded from a 2.4c to a 3.0c and its only really worth it if u have extreme cooling ...

[Kanavit]

Originally posted by wicktron
prescott is worth the heat and performance difference? charlie got a prescott at 4ghz on 56c bios temp. only on 1.4v too. so , temp is no longer an issue anymore. the new revisions are making huge improvements for prescott core and hot temps. besides , you get addition 1mb cache, SSE3.

[wicktron]

Originally posted by Kanavit
charlie got a prescott at 4ghz on 56c bios temp. only on 1.4v too. so , temp is no longer an issue anymore. the new revisions are making huge improvements for prescott core and hot temps. besides , you get addition 1mb cache, SSE3.

although i wonder if its 24/7 stable. its one thing to be screenshot/bench stable and 24/7 stable. im all about 24/7/365 stable.

[wicktron]

double post. wth

[Karnivore]

Go 3.0C, good bang for the buck, clock for clock faster then the Prescott. As for SSE3 IF software writers actually do optimize, it will probably be so far down the road you've upgraded a couple times since.

I've had both the Northwood 3.0 and the Prescott, there is no way I would recommend the Prescott in todays world. Kanavit can only go by what he reads, He doesn't even own a 800 FSB proc yet so his recommendations are all seat of the pants assumptions/conclusions .

I've had great luck with the 3.0C, my current one is 24/7 stable @ 4.5 under a Mach I, will do 4100 under a decent waterblock, and 3.9 24/7 stable under a Thermalright SLK-948U. It will take a pretty good clock advantage for the Prescott to keep up with its older brother..

[Spider]

i'd stay with the 2.4c once u get ur mobo back u'll get like 3.6-3.7 out of it and save ur money 4 the A64;)

[HawainPanda]

yeah, save up for an athlon 64...

[Karnivore]

You peepz suggesting the A64, he clearly asked for P4 opinions, and besides, the A64 isn't that much ahead of the P4.. What do I base this on? I own both... It takes a GOOD A64 to beat a GOOD P4, and still doesn't beat it by much.. I guarantee if you sat down to game on my A64 box, or my P4 box you wouldn't know the difference unless I told you.. Benchmarks aren't even a huge difference, and since he already has a P4 setup, a new CPU is an easy thing to do, and not real expensive..

Now if we are suggesting a wait for next gen hardware, that perspective may have a bit more substance.. But to suggest saving for a current A64 setup for 32 bit performance gains is not that big of a difference. Basing on 64 bit performance isn't real solid either as 64 bit software currently isn't an issue, maybe once M$ goes gold with XP64, then it might be a legit reason, by that time though who knows what we will have..

I still say since you already own the P4 hardware,breath a litlle new life into it, and enjoy the performance gains, A64 is nice but not far enough ahead to dish out multi hundreds of dollars for all the new hardware.

[computerpro3]

Originally posted by Karnivore
Go 3.0C, good bang for the buck, clock for clock faster then the Prescott. As for SSE3 IF software writers actually do optimize, it will probably be so far down the road you've upgraded a couple times since.

I've had both the Northwood 3.0 and the Prescott, there is no way I would recommend the Prescott in todays world. Kanavit can only go by what he reads, He doesn't even own a 800 FSB proc yet so his recommendations are all seat of the pants assumptions/conclusions .

I've had great luck with the 3.0C, my current one is 24/7 stable @ 4.5 under a Mach I, will do 4100 under a decent waterblock, and 3.9 24/7 stable under a Thermalright SLK-948U. It will take a pretty good clock advantage for the Prescott to keep up with its older brother..

what stepping, fpo, whatever? It sounds like you have an identical chip to mine. 3.9ghz under thermalright sp-94, 4050mhz stable with dangerden RBX with hot water:mad: . Also what volts? I wonder if I got a mach 1 i could hit 4500mhz :slobber:

I also reccomend 3.0C. Look at my sig. Nuff said.

[Karnivore]

Originally posted by computerpro3
what stepping, fpo, whatever? It sounds like you have an identical chip to mine. 3.9ghz under thermalright sp-94, 4050mhz stable with dangerden RBX with hot water:mad: . Also what volts? I wonder if I got a mach 1 i could hit 4500mhz :slobber:

I also reccomend 3.0C. Look at my sig. Nuff said.


Here is a thread with all the info on my processor.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32035&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

It is kind of a rare one,,default Voltage in Bios is 1.475, and it will run up to about 4ghz @ default voltage, 4500 needs 1,725 in bios, never ran it over that voltage, when I get the new video card I may slap some higher voltage to it and see if it will bench over 4.5, but for now thats high enough.

[computerpro3]

wow nice cpu man....

Mine also defaults at 1.45v in bios, however it doesn't clock quite as well as yours. On stock cooling/volts, I was 3.8ghz stable. it took thermalright cooling and 1.725v to get 3.9ghz. 4.0ghz is 1.725v with my water. Very stable though. I love these new 3.0c's. BTW I think yours is an sl6wu like mine...they are very similar cpu's.

My friend got a sl6wf with only 12 resistors on the bottom and he only got 3.8ghz with the thermalright.

One weird think I noticed...he wanted me to try his cpu in my watercooling system when he was over with his box so I did...it ran 10C hotter than mine even at the same speed/volts and after I re mounted it too. I wonder if all sl6wu chips run cooler.....