3dmark scores need help

[rhino56]

ive read the sticky on it but i cant get anywhere near what i should be at.
i think i hit 20K once in 3d mark 2001 but mostly hit below that.
seems like @ 4.2 ghz with ram at 1:1 - 2.5/4/4/8 i should be able to do better.
what are some things i can do to get higher?
my 9800 pro will OC to 420 core and 380 mem.

[PCBliss]

with a 3.2 at 4.2 you should be way over 20k. Have you set all quality sliders to to performance and put AA and AF on application preferance.

[rhino56]

ok tried that, and also HT off 18XXX score.
something isnt right

[Karnivore]

memory timing is hurting some, you running DC in memory? A compare link would be helpfull as well...

[rhino56]

ok ill run it and post it up. 5 min please
thanks man

[rhino56]

ok heres the online results
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7817398
here
this totally sucks, it may be a bios setting ive done or something.
i seem to do well with prime 95 anyways.
ntel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
CPU speed: 4100.69 MHz
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, PREFETCH, MMX, SSE, SSE2
L1 cache size: 8 KB
L2 cache size: 512 KB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 128 bytes
TLBS: 64
Prime95 version 23.8, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 384K FFT length: 8.771 ms.
Best time for 448K FFT length: 10.448 ms.
Best time for 512K FFT length: 11.926 ms.
Best time for 640K FFT length: 14.249 ms.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 17.405 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 20.538 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 22.943 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 30.003 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 37.016 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 43.997 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 49.416 ms.

[PCBliss]

I dunno man i dont know how you are only getting 296fps in drag low, i get 402 on my Athlon XP

[rhino56]

i wonder if my vid card is the problem.
edit:
i ran 3dmark03 and got a 6222:mad:
i think my cpu is the problem though.
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=10

[rhino56]

bump; any input?:stick:

[oc-rookie]

Your ram timings are killing you. If you're fighting for points I would reload windows and use older drivers. What order are you running the tests in?

[pkrew]

Like oc-rookie said the ram timmings are a big factor, but there has to be other things as well. It seems to me that you should be around 19.5k on a stock 3.2 and a stock 9800pro. A reload is good advice, don't install dx 9, and run either cat 3.1 or 3.2.

[rhino56]

im just running them normal, not seperately, i tried that and it didnt seem to remember by the time i got to the last one.
it may have been something i did wrong though
my ram is 1:1 and 2.5 - 4 - 4 - 8 - 8

[oc-rookie]

Unclick all tests, than go to the screen behind the main screen and choose individual tests individually. Never close out 3dmark. If you want to confirm the tests are running properly, after each test go to details. It should show you the fps, and what tests it has recorded.

Definately no dx9.

Some people use the DL, LL, toss up of doing CL here or last, DH, LH, CH, Nature, CL if it wasn't run earlier order.

x-4-4-x is what is getting you. 5:4 with x-2-2-x will score higher and maybe let you get the clock speed a little higher.

[rhino56]

Originally posted by oc-rookie
Unclick all tests, than go to the screen behind the main screen and choose individual tests individually. Never close out 3dmark. If you want to confirm the tests are running properly, after each test go to details. It should show you the fps, and what tests it has recorded.

Definately no dx9.

Some people use the DL, LL, toss up of doing CL here or last, DH, LH, CH, Nature, CL if it wasn't run earlier order.

x-4-4-x is what is getting you. 5:4 with x-2-2-x will score higher and maybe let you get the clock speed a little higher.
how do i not use direct x 9?

[oc-rookie]

Don't do the update from windows update or the update thru the software that came with the videocard. (custom install during the cd install)

EDIT here's minnyboy's modded files. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25861

GL

[PCBliss]

Originally posted by pkrew
Like oc-rookie said the ram timmings are a big factor, but there has to be other things as well. It seems to me that you should be around 19.5k on a stock 3.2 and a stock 9800pro. A reload is good advice, don't install dx 9, and run either cat 3.1 or 3.2.

Hes not running a stock 3.2 and a 9800 pro, hes running a 3.2 @4.2 and a 9800 Pro. So there is definelty something seriously wrong, and its not that he has DX9 installed. Do you have any nvidia drivers or anything installed? I think should just do a reformat/reinstall to rule out a lot of variables.

[rhino56]

its a brand new raptor 36 gig HD, it hasnt been on that long, i did do windows update though. and am running the latest omega drivers.
i never had nvida drivers.

so i tried it at 4160 mhz ram at 1:1 2.5/4/4/8 screen res at 1024x768 60 hz refresh rate, HT off
spread spectrum disabled

in task manager i got 0%cpu usage and 68 mb ram usage

i ran msconfig and using no startup group items.

put priority as realtime on 3001se

from right click on my comp icon/advanced/performance set to adjust for best performance

i still got only 18xxx points.

so you think a reformatting is what i need?

[PCBliss]

Well it doesnt sound that way from what you have just said, but it would still elminate that variable... Your card is right on at 129fps in nature if you are running stock speeds. So i dont think the card is the problem. Hmmm i dont know what else could be causing the rest of your system to be so slow. It seems like you should be getting 20k very easily at 4.2ghz...

[oc-rookie]

Are the chipset drivers installed? Why is HT off? Not that it makes a huge difference but if you installed windows with it on, and disable it windows will idle incorrectly and create more heat to the cpu. (I've witnessed this)

[pkrew]

Good point about the chipset drivers, look at smartgart in the control panel and see if fast writes are enabled.

[rhino56]

i have a different HD i can plug in and try running it with that, also i have different ram, its corsair 3200 c2 512x2 so i guess ill try swapping these things out to see if one has a dramatic change ill know where the problem is.

[rhino56]

Originally posted by pkrew
Good point about the chipset drivers, look at smartgart in the control panel and see if fast writes are enabled.
when you say control panel you mean start/ settings/ control panel or the display properties one?
edit i see it, they are not enabled



EDIT 2: ok i have found fast write, how do i enable it?

[pkrew]

Then try to enable them. If you can't then re-install the chipset drivers. There should be a tab under smartgart, click that, but there's a good chance you'll need to install the chipset drivers again as by difault it should be enabled

[rhino56]

its not enabled and it wont let me click it either, if i click retest all then i got to restart and it comes back with it off.

[pkrew]

Then re-install your chipset drivers and reboot. hopefully that will either turn them on or allow you to. This is probably why you've been getting the low scores

[oc-rookie]

http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/download.asp?url=/5830/eng/infinst_enu.exe&ProductID=951

http://www.asus.com/support/download/selectftp.aspx?l1_id=1&l2_id=15&l3_id=20&m_id=1&f_name=inf5021003.zip~zaqwedc

Try the asus one first.

[rhino56]

i installed the drivers and still cant turn the fast write on.
is there anything in the bios that would keep me from doing so or any other settings?

[pkrew]

Not that I can think of. That should have done it. The last thing that I'd try before a reload of windows would be to uninstall the video drivers and then use driver cleaner. then re-install them

[rhino56]

Originally posted by pkrew
Not that I can think of. That should have done it. The last thing that I'd try before a reload of windows would be to uninstall the video drivers and then use driver cleaner. then re-install them
ok did that and it worked:D :D :toast: :YIPPIE:
ill try to tweak it out the best i can and see if my score improves

EDIT:
2001se still 18XXX
2003 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2498903

[PCBliss]

Hmm i dunno what else could be wrong.

[pkrew]

I don't know either, you should probably get around 22k. Try the LL ram you were talking about that may help

[rhino56]

well i changed the ram, got it at 2/3/3/7 and OC'ld to 230fsb (3.5XX) and hit 205XX

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7821030
so im improving at least. i may be able to get tighter timings with my other ram though.
im just going to have to keep trying different timings.
i may have been better off with a 3.0 cpu to get a lower multi so i could get a higher fsb going.
but ill work on tighting the timings up.
thanks for the help and if you think of anything else i can try please tell me.

[PCBliss]

The reason your score went up is because you overclocked your video card.

[rhino56]

Originally posted by PCBliss
The reason your score went up is because you overclocked your video card.
i always OC it. its not a great card for overclocking though.
max is like 425 core 370 mem. i have tried it both ways in the past with very small gains by running it faster.

[PCBliss]

Well in all the other links you posted, your nature score was 129fps, now its 144.6. THats why your score went up to 20.5K. It should be over 23-24 id say with you card at those clocks.

[pkrew]

What type of ram did you use and have you vdimm moded your mb

[rhino56]

Originally posted by pkrew
What type of ram did you use and have you vdimm moded your mb
i used the corsair 3200 c2 512x2 when i got the 20xxx
no mods yet. timings were 2/3/3/7 and 230 fsb

[rhino56]

well i got up to 20991 so far.
i really think i need a lower latency ram if im going to be any good at a benchmark. this xms 4000 will bring me to 4.2 ghz no problems, and my prime 95 benchmark at that speed is awesome, but the best score ive gotten was with timings of 2.5/3/3/6 and that was at 3.6 ghz.
i dont know if there are some other settings i can mess with to get another 2000 points but i am still open for ideas.

this is my everyday comp not just a benchmark rig sitting open on a desk if that makes any difference. also running xp home

[KennethChong]

did you change your drivers? I know that i got very low scores when using 4.4 cats for some reason, loaded the 4.3's, works fine.

[rhino56]

Originally posted by KennethChong
did you change your drivers? I know that i got very low scores when using 4.4 cats for some reason, loaded the 4.3's, works fine.
i am using 4.4 or if thats the latest ones, i tried the omegas but it didnt help much and ended up going to the newest by ati.
i think i will try the older ones with it though. just wont have time today to mess with it.
thanks everyone for helping though. you got me 3000 points more so far and thats not bad to me.

[rhino56]

i have switched to the 3.8 ati drivers, and slowly teaking each little thing i can, running tests seperately with cool down times,
and have gotten to 21310

[oc-rookie]

The more you change drivers, the worse they get. Atleast for me... Be sure to uninstall driver and reboot before installing a new set.

GL, what order are you running 01 in?

[STEvil]

3200 C2's...or 3202 C2's?.... 1.1, 1.2, or 2.1?

3200 1.1 is BH-5
3202 1.1 is BH-6

Feed them volts and they will do 2-2-2-5 with ease.

[rhino56]

right now i been running the xms 4000 and trying different timings, mhz, everything under the sun really.
im going to try to get the best possible marks with this ram and then i will do the same with my 3202 bh-6 c2.
i really need more volts for my ram.

its way too hot today and i have no ac in my house so i cant try anymore right now. i am building a chiller system to cool my case down though so eventually it wont even be an issue.

[rhino56]

well ive gotten to 22750 so far
where can i get the modded miniboy drivers? (not sure if that name is right)