Macci at work again

[Master_G]

Looks like macci has been busy.

http://www.hexus.net/
First news article on there, more details HERE (http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/index.jsp?epi-content=NEWS_VIEW_POPUP_TYPE&newsId=20040507005145&newsLang=en&beanID=202776713&viewID=news_view_popup)
15k didnt last long did it :)

Another excellent job macci!

G

PS apologies if this has been posted already.

[macci]

Just came back from the Barcelona-trip :toast:

http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/r420/15738_f.PNG
:D

Dryice cooling only - no cascade as they mentioned at Hexus

I'll shoot for 16k in a day or two :D

[FrozenGPU]

Wow that was you? Proprietry cooling? :)

[pkrew]

Amaizing is the only word that comes to mind. The aritcle said they gave you 2. Care to donate to the poor :D

[Peen]

ill take it! lol.

macci is it fairly phucking fast?? :D

[Jupiler]

Most impressive macci, congrats.

Card was unmodded??

[Geforce4ti4200]

Macci, congras! also you got 33.7k on a 2.4GHz pentium 4! I have told the guys over at futuremark but they dont believe me! I am right with my 40k predictions with a x800xt if someone uses a proper a64! macci, do you have a screenshot of the 2001 scores? id like to know how it did in the game tests, especially in nature!

[Kanavit]

O M G, where did Macci get a x800xt!!! And he is only using a 2.4a prescott it looks like too. Congratulations very nice score, i think these new video cards will make 3dmark03 work like 3dmark2001 lol.

[Geforce4ti4200]

yea he broke 33.7k on a 2.4GHz p4. imagine a 3.2GHz a64! 45k in 2001 probably

[macci]

Ti4200, the 33484 was done on a A64 @3G and with X800Pro (12pipe) @696/560 or so and old beta drivers on WinXP system. Nature was 252 or so.

With the X800XT @714/630 or so the 2001 Nature is around 309FPS :D

[Peen]

Originally posted by macci
Ti4200, the 33484 was done on a A64 @3G

:owned:

[I²K]

Only 7500 points to fullfill prediction

[Peen]

hey macci did u ever overclock with default cooling to see what it would do?

[pkrew]

Wow, you can add over 1k for just the Nature score. I wonder what a few mods would do?

[Geforce4ti4200]

so am I right in saying a stock x800 pro would match your 9800xt at 640/465 clocks? you get 252fps overclocked. I am estimating 190-210fps on a stock x800 pro. this would make 30k or more possible with a stock x800 pro and a 3GHz plus a64, right? how does it do in dragothic and car low? also when can the orb accept scores from those x800 cards?

[Kanavit]

Macci when can u get a Geforce 6800 ultra?

[Geforce4ti4200]

Originally posted by I²K
Only 7500 points to fullfill prediction


Ti4200, the 33484 was done on a A64 @3G and with X800Pro (12pipe) @696/560 or so and old beta drivers on WinXP system. Nature was 252 or so.


not bad and its just a x800 pro too! 2.5k higher than his 31k record he got with the 9800xt on a slower cpu than the 31k record run too. also windows xp and old drivers hurt performance. over 35k should be easy with win 2k and newer drivers. as for the x800xt, it should be about 5k higher than the x800 pro cause its 16 pipes and higher clocks. It was getting about 60fps higher in nature plus similar increases in car low and both dragothics. I still stand by my 40k prediction :D

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by macci
Ti4200, the 33484 was done on a A64 @3G and with X800Pro (12pipe) @696/560 or so and old beta drivers on WinXP system. Nature was 252 or so.

With the X800XT @714/630 or so the 2001 Nature is around 309FPS :D

I don't know what to say first ....

OK,

:toast:

Fantastic

That's the easy part, I'll list the rest

1) Have you got a screen print of 3dmark01 run ?

2) The XT overclocks well with cold temps .. other sites using air cooling got 30-50Mhz you get almost 200Mhz with extreme cold .. was it stock voltage ?

3) Did you get a feel for how memory helped the score, ie is it bandwidth restricted or is it mainly gpu based still ?

4) Can you give us background on how you were invited to Barcelona, as one of the top overclockers, I am sure I would not be alone in being interested in this.

5) With the power of the Ati X800XT did you notice more cpu power coming into play within GT2 GT3 and, possibly, 4 ?

6) Will you be testing GF 6800 now or are you now Ati forever :) ( see 4 above )

I find the massive overclock very impressive ..... once again :toast:

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

PS forgot to mention

7) 300+ fps nature very nice :D

[Geforce4ti4200]

2) The XT overclocks well with cold temps .. other sites using air cooling got 30-50Mhz you get almost 200Mhz with extreme cold .. was it stock voltage ?


I want to know this too. what is the stock volts, did you vmod it, if yes to what volts and how is the vmod done? If you do not want to tell anyone the secret to the vmod, I respect this ;)

[althes]

thats nice

[QuadDamage]

nice to see the man at work:D 116fps in GT2 ugh that's damn fast:)

[oc-rookie]

:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
OMG

[gabbax]

What to say Macci but Congrats!!!!. Sweet score!

Verry nice job!

//Gabbax

[All Kill3r]

WOW MACCI ! thats insane.... :hehe:

[interman]

wow, that's just awesome

[OPPAINTER]

Wow Macci very nice scores, those cards can really clock:toast:

Looking good!!

OPP

[zakelwe]

I still want to know whever a volt mod was done.

It is a TSMC low K 0.13 process so you wouldn't imagine reducing ther temp that much on its own would produce that good a result.

But 180Mhz overclock is amazing on just reducing temps with such an "out of the blocks" card .. I am slightly baffled.

Regards

Andy

[Sphinx]

Nice! :slobber: So what about 6800U? :toast:

[DazzXP]

Kickass thats for sure.

[FUGGER]

Stopming all over Nvidia, Macci did you play with the 6800U at all?

[OPPAINTER]

Macci,

Can you not publish this scores for some reason?

OPP

[bh2k]

Probably not until the card is released to the general public...

[bachus_anonym]

wow, this is certainly something to aim for :)
and they all said that 600mhz on the core is 0.13 process limit :D

i assume it's not vmodded yet, right ? if so, did u find vddr mod yet as vgpu seems to be exaclty same as on 9800xt?

waiting for some 3dm01 screeen action now,

congratulations, macci :toast:

[Evil_Spork]

IF 600MHZ IS THE LIMIT FOR .13 PROCESS, wahts the deal with teh 675mhz clocks on .15? lol

(sorry for caps.. lock was on)

[aLpHaEv7]

Originally posted by Evil_Spork
IF 600MHZ IS THE LIMIT FOR .13 PROCESS, wahts the deal with teh 675mhz clocks on .15? lol

(sorry for caps.. lock was on)

maybe at aircooling :D not below 0 ;)

[EmineM]

macci have you found vmods yet?

[DeathMonk]

What a great time that must have been. I wish I could've went!

[bachus_anonym]

Originally posted by EmineM
macci have you found vmods yet?
according to pics i've seen, vgpu mod is exactly same as on r9800xt... so we only need to find vddr one and we're set :D

[Garrett]

Nice scores Macci... :thumbsup:

I bet he's tweaking the stuff right now... I too wonder if he has an 6800U to play with :D

[macci]

Editin and uploading pics etc at the moment.

Here is something for starters:

http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/r420/3d2001_33484_orbdetail_x800pro.gif

And yes ORB wont let me publish the scores yet.

[Flox]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
Macci, congras! also you got 33.7k on a 2.4GHz pentium 4!

Ever thought about these words before you wrote them down?? :rolleyes:

[andyddr]

Bet they gave Macci a few to play with. `Here take these home and mod the dancing babanas out of it`. Jeez I also want to be cool Maybe one day...

[bias_hjorth]

Looking very sweet.. I´ll bet there´s more juice in em´ somewhere :)


Geforceti4200 --> Do us ALL a small favor by actually thinking bout´ the things you say.. Otherwise you´ll just look stupid.

[Boyne7]

dude...... that is just so nice

[Boyne7]

i gotta ask,
what does one have to do to get so that people will just give u free stuff like that :slobber:

[ant1]

Breaking 2 3dmark WR´s among other things?

[Sarcastro]

Originally posted by macci
Just came back from the Barcelona-trip :toast:

Dryice cooling only - no cascade as they mentioned at Hexus

I'll shoot for 16k in a day or two :D

I'm confused.

The ati press release (http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/press/2004/4752.html) is talking about a overclocked P4. That would probably get a high score as well, but I'm curious as to why there's a setfsb utility on your desktop that's used for nforce3 exclusively.

Did ATi did not like nVidia having a hand in "their" (read: your) score?

[Geforce4ti4200]

http://www.yoaliens3000.com/upload/sss.gif


Look what Jason got so far! I had predicted he will break 38k, everyone laughed at me, but I am right :banana: also Macci, your nature fps is very low. Jason's x800 pro is at 550MHz core and hes 5fps shy of your 700MHz core. He could break 300fps on his x800 pro!!!!!!

[macci]

Sarcastro,
Mark03 was all P4 stuff. I tried with A64 on NF3 but got clearly lower scores for some reason (GT1 was better on AMD, GT2-4 better on Intel - the difference in Nature for instance was around 10FPS!!).
If you look closely there is also CLockgen for IC7 series on the screenshot :D
I used the same WinXP installation for both platforms (I even had the NF3 chipset and nVidia display drivers installed on that system).

Here (http://www.akiba-pc.com/article.php?41.0) is a little pic gallery/article I just put together. For your viewing pleasure :D

[macci]

also Macci, your nature fps is very low.
YEa my X800Pro run on A64 mobo might have been very unoptimal - the OS was full of drivers - AMD and Intel and ATI and nVidia etc :D

But I think that this one is quite ok :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/r420/nature_xt.gif

[DazzXP]

Yeah i noticed 03 tends to favor the P4 for some reason.

[DazzXP]

Originally posted by macci
YEa my X800Pro run on A64 mobo might have been very unoptimal - the OS was full of drivers - AMD and Intel and ATI and nVidia etc :D

But I think that this one is quite ok :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/r420/nature_xt.gif Maybe something has been pushed to far and ended up slowering down core clock or memory can do this, temds to be the memory clock mind.

[gokickrocks]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
http://www.yoaliens3000.com/upload/sss.gif


Look what Jason got so far! I had predicted he will break 38k, everyone laughed at me, but I am right :banana: also Macci, your nature fps is very low. Jason's x800 pro is at 550MHz core and hes 5fps shy of your 700MHz core. He could break 300fps on his x800 pro!!!!!!

i realize numbers are abstract, or maybe you posted the wrong pic, but how did you get 32.8k = 38k?

[pduan87]

God Ti4200, can you just stop with your damn predictions? Really, no one cares. Until you get a 38k by yourself, stop predicting this and that... jesus.

As for macci, good lord thats sweet!

[Geforce4ti4200]

Originally posted by gokickrocks
i realize numbers are abstract, or maybe you posted the wrong pic, but how did you get 32.8k = 38k?


Jasons x800 pro is still air cooled and he has not maxed out his fsb, ram nor cpu. Hes got another 150MHz clocks on his x800xt that hes gonna hit once he superchills it. He gains about 1k marks per 30MHz overclock on the gpu. 150MHz should gain him 4 or 5k more and another 1k more from his cpu. my 38k estimate was quite conservative too.

[r3b0rN]

glad to see u got ahold of these beasty x800's macci :D nice job man, these cards are awesome.

[kommando]

Nice work, i think ill start saving for one now :)

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by kommando
Nice work, i think ill start saving for one now :)
I think we all will...BUT...the race has only begun, and we haven't seen the results from the other side of the fence.

[Huhn]

mhh well lets wait for nvidia cards, as i heard they will be alittle cheaper and they have ps 3.0 :D. don´t forget that. the x800xt is only another r300 but this time with 16 pipes and higher clocks. don´t think will be worth the money as long as nvidias card reaches the same speed:rolleyes:

[PCBliss]

The XT seems to do a lot better with AA and AF, and I would get it over the 6800 ultra for that reason even if the Nvidia benches a bit higher. AA and AF is where its at in games.

[rhino56]

i wouldnt mind having one of those cards. unbelieveable scores.

[STEvil]

Its kind of useless for game manf's to implement PS/VS 3.0 code when only one line of video cards will be capable of using it..

next gen is where we will see it. I believe that was the hint behind the Unreal 3 release date :/

[Peen]

well that doesnt really make it worthless... its kinda a good idea to me. If i got a 6800 id keep it for atleast 2 gen's . :cool:

[Sarcastro]

Originally posted by macci
Sarcastro,
Mark03 was all P4 stuff. I tried with A64 on NF3 but got clearly lower scores for some reason (GT1 was better on AMD, GT2-4 better on Intel - the difference in Nature for instance was around 10FPS!!).
If you look closely there is also CLockgen for IC7 series on the screenshot :D
I used the same WinXP installation for both platforms (I even had the NF3 chipset and nVidia display drivers installed on that system).

Here (http://www.akiba-pc.com/article.php?41.0) is a little pic gallery/article I just put together. For your viewing pleasure :D


Thanks, that explains it all. So you just built in a little headroom? :D

[zakelwe]

Nice pictures, I especially like

http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/r420/b1.jpg

that's a like a doctor visiting a sick patent .. everything for lightness ( assume dual cascade system would have got stuck on the baggage conveyor belt at the airport). As Fugger mentionedf before when he was showing off his and Chilly's P4 EE at a show, doing this at home is one thing, doing it in a difereent environment is another ..lots of things to consider . So even more kudus for this !

Why the trupower and not the trucontrol ..or is it modded ?

Have you gone to OCZ EB and left your old 2-5-2-2 BH5 stuff behind ???

Like the briefing documents .. now those are the type of documents I could spend hours leafing through.

The actual 2001 scores are actually not that impressive if you consider the vpu core overclock looks like ATi definitely moving on to shader power and leaving texture power behind, hence the fantastic 03 result. They say nvidia favour old sttyle textures still, ie 2001 !

Nice to know that cpu's now make a difference in 03, getting to be like 2001 is, a system test. Shame it favours intel though considering latest offereings from Intel and AMD

The worse, most expensive, case scenario is that you need AMD and nvidia for 2001 and Intel and ATi for 03 :eek:


Well that's only $1500+ of course, plus a small amount for X800XT and 6800U Extreme ..

Cough,

Regards

Andy

[macci]

Andy,
As far as 2001 goes I think that ATI will be a bit stronger there (according to Hexus review for instance).
The reason why the score improvement in % is nowhere near the Mark03 jump is the fact that its so system speed limited test now.
On normal systems (lets say 3.5GHz P4 and down) only Nature test is not 100% system speed limited. Clocking my X800XT card from 525/575 to 555/575 only gave an improvement of 92Marks (and all came from Nature)!
We need 3.5GHz A64s with huge bandwidht to see the real power of these cards in 2001 :D

Why the trupower and not the trucontrol ..or is it modded ?

Have you gone to OCZ EB and left your old 2-5-2-2 BH5 stuff behind ???
I've been useing the 3.3V modded Truepower for a while now and it has done the job nicely.
I have loads of BH5 left - was just testing the OCZ stuff. Both are very good. OCZ runs better with lower voltage.

[macci]

btw, pic from the ATI booth:

http://www.muropaketti.com/sampsa/kuvia/r420_launch/07.jpg
(pic by Sampsa of Muropaketti.com)

[zakelwe]

Love the beers :)

I killed an Abit Kv8 MAX3 when I span in my chair quickly and some beer flew out of the glass and landed on the board which was sitting on the floor doing a bench :rolleyes:


"Clocking my X800XT card from 525/575 to 555/575 only gave an improvement of 92Marks (and all came from Nature)!"

Sigh, oh dear, I hear the bells ringing in the distance and a knocking at the door from a hand that is bone not flesh....

Regards

Andy

[Pomme]

omFg dude, that is just plain sickness ... :D

thinking of my 209 3DMark03 score on my GeForce 2 pro right now ... :)

[r3b0rN]

what are u trying to say? 3dmark01 is on its way out?

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by r3b0rN
what are u trying to say? 3dmark01 is on its way out?

Sadly yes :(

When you go from 525Mhz core to 700+ which is 30% and you get a 10% increase the writing is on the wall.

Which is a shame as you cannot stop 3dmark03 between games and it only has 4 tests not 8 so does not show as well differences in cpu, FSB and gpu speeds in the overall nature of things.

Why is there not a GT1,2 and 3 high and low in 03 ?

Maybe need to email worm.

Regards

Andy

[andyddr]

Yeah I agree with you zakelwe but in the same light 03 is too GFX intensive. Okay I know it is a GFX benching tool but the reason why I still love 2001 is it has a great blend of CPU/FSB and GFX benchmarking.

01 it is more `tweakable` than 03 and takes more skill to get higher scores IMO. Maybe I`m missing something but 01 is still my best benchmarking program :up:

[Kanavit]

yup, wait till Macci gets those things on triple phase cascade at his house! then we'll probably see some exciting action.

[r3b0rN]

yeah true zakelwe... but we are seeing possibilities of whole system clocks helping with 03 now that we have such awesome video cards. and just like u somewhat mentioned, i too think 03 could be improved if they released an 03 SE which allowed you to stop during tests and also had low tests which focused more on whole system specs.

[PCBliss]

I agree. 03 isnt going to let us test our whole systems the way it is set up right now. We all love 01 because of how it tests everything like CPU speed, FSB, memory timings, memory bandwidth, etc. 03 just doesnt do that the same way 01 does. Its definetly time for 3dmark2004 that does.

[Boyne7]

heh. i cant wait to see what those cardsll do with some nice die cooling

[CrashOv3r1De]

Awesome macci. Can't get my hands on one finally will be able to beat OPP's FX-51 score :D

[QuadDamage]

FM is making new 3DMark as we speak optimised for DX9.0C most probably will be ready once M$ announces there new DX. Patric from FM was hinting it's not gonna be just a patch but the whole new benchmark.

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by QuadDamage
FM is making new 3DMark as we speak optimised for DX9.0C most probably will be ready once M$ announces there new DX. Patric from FM was hinting it's not gonna be just a patch but the whole new benchmark.

What happened? :D
When they made 3D03 they said it would be the benchmark for Future Graphics cards, they made it tough so they wouldn't have to make a new one soon. I guess not it wasn't tough enough:D

OPP

[GazC]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
What happened? :D
When they made 3D03 they said it would be the benchmark for Future Graphics cards, they made it tough so they wouldn't have to make a new one soon. I guess not it wasn't tough enough:D

OPP

They made '03 Futureproof, they just didn't make it Nvidia proof....;)

[CrashOv3r1De]

LoL the nerve of nvidia always trying to sneak those drivers in every version

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by r3b0rN
yeah true zakelwe... but we are seeing possibilities of whole system clocks helping with 03 now that we have such awesome video cards. and just like u somewhat mentioned, i too think 03 could be improved if they released an 03 SE which allowed you to stop during tests and also had low tests which focused more on whole system specs.

stopping between tests would be a big plus, yes, that's another of 03 limitations that mean it is not as much fun ....

Regrads

Andy

[althes]

Well I hope the new benchmarks put things on the right track so we test our systems to the fullest.

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by zakelwe
stopping between tests would be a big plus, yes, that's another of 03 limitations that mean it is not as much fun ....

Regrads

Andy

But it makes for a easy bench. You just turn it on and walk away hoping when you get back you made through. Benchmarking made simple:D

OPP

[Peen]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
But it makes for a easy bench. You just turn it on and walk away hoping when you get back you made through. Benchmarking made simple:D

OPP

ya i hate 3dmark01 for that. in order to get a really nice score and good run u have to baby it through and i hate that, plus u watch it worrying its going to drop to desk or BSOD. so much nicer to be able to walk away and forget about it

[DrJay]

Wow. Impressive. Looks like the new generation of cards has shifted the performance bottleneck back to the cpu (even highly overclocked A64s).

[Peen]

ya its hard to fill 16 pipes of 715mhz GPU even with a 3ghz+ A64 .... so dayem nice :toast:

[I²K]

Originally posted by PCBliss
I agree. 03 isnt going to let us test our whole systems the way it is set up right now. We all love 01 because of how it tests everything like CPU speed, FSB, memory timings, memory bandwidth, etc. 03 just doesnt do that the same way 01 does. Its definetly time for 3dmark2004 that does.
I think with the new graphiccards we'll a trunover.

[Edward2]

Excellent benches Macci. Like was said earlier in this post, looks like this summer is going to be quite interesting as more and more people get their hands on these new video cards. Can't wait to see how high this next push goes.

[Revv23]

I have a n00b question, how do you get the clocks higher with Ati tool already maxed out?

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
But it makes for a easy bench. You just turn it on and walk away hoping when you get back you made through. Benchmarking made simple:D

OPP

That's pretty radical ! Could even leave the room and go talk to my wife I guess.

No, I'm still not sold ;)

:D

Regards

Andy

[Hiwayman]

But it makes for a easy bench. You just turn it on and walk away hoping when you get back you made through. Benchmarking made simple

Yeah, that's true but not always, there are things you can do;)

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by Hiwayman
Yeah, that's true but not always, there are things you can do;)

Ooh I hate that sort of inside info I am not party to .... :p:

I'd really like to be able to stop the bench after GT1 on 03 for instance. Maybe when I get to be a member of the StoneCutters , like Homer did, I will find out :)

Who controls the British Crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do, we do.

Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do, we do.

Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
We do, we do.

Who robs cave fish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do, we do!

Who can stop 3dmark03 in it's tracks
Give it something it presently lacks
We do, we do!

Regards

Hom, er Andy

[macci]

Originally posted by Revv23
I have a n00b question, how do you get the clocks higher with Ati tool already maxed out?
its not maxed out :D

http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/r420/atitool.gif

it will automatically extend the clock range when needed

[Peen]

you think Pro will be moddable to XT? stupid question i know

[macci]

Thats a good question and I think we will find out soon.. (once RivaTuner is updated? :D)

I'd guess it is possible..

[andyddr]

Originally posted by Peen
you think Pro will be moddable to XT? stupid question i know

Not at all stupid. Probably the biggest asked question right now as the X800PRO is coming out before the XT.

Macci clever marketing by ATI to use you to promote the card IMO as the 6800UE is currently faster than the XT @ default speed in 2003. Although it is faster it`ll be nice to see what a 6800UE can clock to....

[pkrew]

From what I've seen the 6800ue is not much more than a marketing ploy. Basically just an overclocked 6800u. While I'm sure some will buy the card, why not just buy the ultra instead and overclock it yourself?

[andyddr]

Same can be said for the X800XT PE. GT vs Ultra too with 50Mhz less on core and mem but one Molex and $100 less?

[althes]

time will tell, i will save for the x800pro.

[ibby]

:) nice ...

[PCBliss]

Yes it will be very interesting to see if the Pro can be flashed to an XT... as soon as someone finds out please let everyone else know! :)

[scrible88]

Originally posted by PCBliss
Yes it will be very interesting to see if the Pro can be flashed to an XT... as soon as someone finds out please let everyone else know! :)

My fingers have been crossed on this matter ever since ATI released that the cards were going to be 12 and 16 pipe.

[_zZz_]

macci...any mods on this ati yet?

_zZz_

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by scrible88
My fingers have been crossed on this matter ever since ATI released that the cards were going to be 12 and 16 pipe.

ATI have put a hardware lock in there as well this time apparently ... according to Dave Baumann at b3d

Regards

Andy

[andyddr]

That`s okay too. As long as my soldering iron can sort it out :up:

[Pha_Q]

i'm already saving for a X800XT :-D

[JWB]

Something tells me there will be alot of 9800's in the for sales thread:D Great score Macci, cannot wait tio see it clocked to the full.

[PCBliss]

Yes this will be a good time for people looking for a 9800 Pro, there should be a ton of used ones up for sale soon! Good prices on good cards. I think i will keep mine though for my second rig, and have an X800XT in my main rig.

[***Deimos***]

Originally posted by PCBliss
Yes this will be a good time for people looking for a 9800 Pro, there should be a ton of used ones up for sale soon! Good prices on good cards. I think i will keep mine though for my second rig, and have an X800XT in my main rig.

likewise...


regarding the huge CPU-limit wall we have slammed into...
does anyone know if 3DMark2001/3DMark2003 can take advantage of SMP (mutli-processor). There was some talk while back about multiple core Opteron.... since ATI/nVidia doubled their pipelines maybe its appropriate that AMD/Intel double the cores....
:banana4:

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by ***Deimos***
likewise...


regarding the huge CPU-limit wall we have slammed into...
does anyone know if 3DMark2001/3DMark2003 can take advantage of SMP (mutli-processor). There was some talk while back about multiple core Opteron.... since ATI/nVidia doubled their pipelines maybe its appropriate that AMD/Intel double the cores....
:banana4:

I'm afraid not.


Regards

Andy

PS Wonder if 3dmark04 might have a 64 bit version, has anyone asked this question ?

[Revv23]

Seems to me like they would have a whole new version.

[zakelwe]

macci got 16k in 03 tonight. Almost 100fps on Trolls Lair, 50fps on previous cards was pretty good going, how things have moved on. Jason will be doing a nice score as well when he gets his XT if it proves to be a good one.

P4E not doing any favours I guess, a nice P4EE would be the order of the day me thinks :)

Nice score, very nice core clock on the XT.


:toast:

Regards

Andy

[Geforce4ti4200]

wow thats sick! has Macci uploaded that 16k? I still say theres room for improvement, remember the 10k Macci got on 9800xt? I wont predict where we will end up, but way over 16k

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by zakelwe
P4E not doing any favours I guess, a nice P4EE would be the order of the day me thinks :)
IIRC, the P4E's were just as good as the P4EE's in 3DMark03, from the benchmarks I saw.

[STEvil]

Who will be the first to hit 1ghz core on X8 series? ;)

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by STEvil
Who will be the first to hit 1ghz core on X8 series? ;)
Not going to happen. If they could, the 9600 would have already been there.

[Geforce4ti4200]

hes right, the 9600 pros run cooler so if Macci got his hands on one of those hed be at 850-900MHz. I doubt we will see past 800MHz on the x800s but once ati goes 90nm then yes 1GHz

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by Soulburner
IIRC, the P4E's were just as good as the P4EE's in 3DMark03, from the benchmarks I saw.

Really ? :confused:

Does the extra cache not help on at least GT1 ? You could be right and I am assuming things.

Maybe FUGGER could advise ?

Regards

Andy

[LOE]

Really offtopic:

Geforce4ti4200 - aren't you sick of predicting???

Geforce4ti4200 - the prophet

I predict 100k in 2010 with a radeon XVIXXLLVL800XT

[Soulburner]

According to macci its not that great, but the benchmarks I saw showed the P4E doing fine...

[MightyOne]

In another thread macci said sth. about the P4EE being worth about 400-500 pts. more in 3d03 - I'm not sure whether that is because of higher clockspeeds, the larger cache or a mixture of both though ...

[***Deimos***]

The problem is because english is so imprecise. When I say that 3DMark2003 is not system limited (unless you're running it on a P75), I mean that because its a GPU-benchmarks specificly written in such a way to stress the GPU. When I say that P4EE wont affect 3DMark03 scores, I mean that scores wont scale linearly. Here is a good explanation.

6800Ultra or x800xt you get ~12k stock with P4 3.2 or A64 2.2
However, with a 9800xt you will get only about half that. Clearly the CPU is capable of driving that many 3DMarks. However, it only influences performance slightly.. lets pretend its 10%, whereas the rest is GPU. So if I double CPU I get only about (90%)*12k + (10%*12k*2) = 13.2K...

[PCBliss]

I'm sure you all know this already. I've done a little experiment to determine just how much CPU speed affects 3d03 scores. It turns out it does affect it, but not as much as many people think. I compared my score above to one with my CPU at a much lower speed. You can click on the links for exact details.
6,616 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2361182)
This test was with my 2500+ at 2706mhz (12x225) and the 9800 Pro at 448/356.

6,209 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2388429)
This test was with the CPU at stock 2500+ speeds. (11x166) and the 9800 Pro at the same 448/356 as above.

Now, a difference of 866mhz for CPU speed, and 59mhz for the FSB, made my 3d03 score increase by a mere 6.5%. The difference between a 2706mhz AMD running 225fsb is huge compared to a 1840mhz AMD running a 166FSB. I admit i wasnt even expecting there to be a 6.5% difference between the scores, but regardless the difference isnt much...

You can also see from the image below exactly where the faster CPU speed gained me more points. All of the tests are nearly identical except for game test 1, Wings of Fury. Here a 47% increase in CPU speed and a 36% increase in FSB speed raised the GT1 test score by 27.5%.

http://www.uploadit.org/PCBliss/3d03compare.jpg


And here is a comparison of my 2706mhz run with the card at 448/356, compared to a run with my CPU at stock 2500+ speeds (1840mhz) and the 9800 pro at stock speeds (378/337.5). You can also see by comparing this to the above picture that GT1 isnt affected much by the much lower 9800 Pro clock speeds. With the same CPU speed, going from 448/356 to 378/337.5 on the 9800 pro lowered GT1 scores by less than 3%

http://www.uploadit.org/PCBliss/3d03compare2.jpg

[zakelwe]

The thing is that cpu grunt always counted only in GT1 but now it seems the video cards are so powerful they also count in GT2 3 and 4 as well to a small extent.

Someone needs to give a demonstration on cpu speed in GT2.3.4 with one of the new cards so we can see percentage increase.

Regards

Andy

[nailbomb]

I wont predict where we will end up

Man, I thought I would NEVER hear those words uttered by you ;)

Macci, great work as allways :)

[JWB]

Originally posted by nailbomb
Man, I thought I would NEVER hear those words uttered by you ;)

Macci, great work as allways :)

Damn quick let me take a printscreen, lol

[Djuice]

Yo nailbomb is that a pic of your cat in your avatar??? Coz that looks exactly like my cat.. damn this is sooo weird...

Great work Macci, hope to see 17k with our uber system... don't make us poor fellas wait..

[***Deimos***]

Originally posted by zakelwe
The thing is that cpu grunt always counted only in GT1 but now it seems the video cards are so powerful they also count in GT2 3 and 4 as well to a small extent.

Someone needs to give a demonstration on cpu speed in GT2.3.4 with one of the new cards so we can see percentage increase.

Regards

Andy

You are right. We are starting to see some CPU benefits on GT3. With 6800Ultra or X800Xt it would probably be more pronounced.

PCBliss: I did the same kind of tests. Although with more conservative speeds (Athlon XP @1.0, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 9800pro and 9800pro at 430/390)... unfortunatly those results were stored on Seagate 200GB which has a little accident. But, same thing. GT1 always CPU dependent (not linear I found), and all the others GPU only pretty much.
[SIZE=3]But 9800pro is so boring nowadays. Lets see this "test" on 6800ultra or x800xt!![SIZE=3]:rocker:

[Bra!nFreeZe^]

VeRY VERY nice score there Macci! it is as if you always are able to astound the OC' community! and btw VERY nice briefing documents you recieved ;)

[STEvil]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Not going to happen. If they could, the 9600 would have already been there.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=442017#post442017

back up a page or two in this thread :rolleyes:

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by STEvil
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=442017#post442017

back up a page or two in this thread :rolleyes:
:confused: :confused:

What are you trying to show me?

[STEvil]

"clock range has been extended to 900mhz"

Doesnt that mean anything to you?

Of course that doesnt mean he was actually working at that frequency (800mhz shown) but he also stated that it changes automatically as needed which points to the fact he may well be at or near that frequency for the purpose of that screenshot.. as referenced by the "its not maxed out :D" statement that was first made...

HINT HINT possibly?

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by STEvil
"clock range has been extended to 900mhz"

Doesnt that mean anything to you?

Of course that doesnt mean he was actually working at that frequency (800mhz shown) but he also stated that it changes automatically as needed which points to the fact he may well be at or near that frequency for the purpose of that screenshot.. as referenced by the "its not maxed out :D" statement that was first made...

HINT HINT possibly?
I know very well how ATI Tool works, I have used it myself.

He was only displaying how to increase the max frequency you can select. His current max clock is around 750 on the core.

As I stated in my previous post, 1Ghz is NOT going to happen with these 130nm process GPU's.

[Djuice]

1Ghz is gonna happen!!!! Im gonna tell you!!! IT will happen only if its for a second of two..

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by Djuice
1Ghz is gonna happen!!!! Im gonna tell you!!! IT will happen only if its for a second of two..
So you're saying that a GPU made on the same process as the previous 9600 that maxed out at 700-800mhz, is going to get some sort of magic 200mhz + boost, with more transistors, more heat output, and 4x the number of pipelines?

[Geforce4ti4200]

LOL seems like one of his famous predictions. and no one would do a 1GHz suicide clock, it would just lock up if it doesnt fry the card outright. I can see 800-850MHz tops on the x800 but no more. not even 900MHz without maybe ln2. 800MHz with dry ice or casade would be about the limit

[dpa]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
LOL seems like one of his famous predictions. and no one would do a 1GHz suicide clock, it would just lock up if it doesnt fry the card outright. I can see 800-850MHz tops on the x800 but no more. not even 900MHz without maybe ln2. 800MHz with dry ice or casade would be about the limit

seems like one of HIS famous predictions?

OMFG

[zakelwe]

When Ati or nvidia move to 90nm low k process there might be a chance of 1Ghz speeds, but the rate at which they are adding transistors and features maybe not even then.

Something damn wrong with this monitor this morning. I'me going to reboot

Regards

Andy

[STEvil]

Who knows.. nobody thought the 9800XT's would get to the 650 range.. :D

[Formann]

Originally posted by Soulburner
So you're saying that a GPU made on the same process as the previous 9600 that maxed out at 700-800mhz, is going to get some sort of magic 200mhz + boost, with more transistors, more heat output, and 4x the number of pipelines?


Sure it will.. dont you think? :p:


I say no way the X800 is hitting 1Ghz..

[Geforce4ti4200]

Originally posted by STEvil
Who knows.. nobody thought the 9800XT's would get to the 650 range.. :D


yea but people got them to 600MHz a week after the 9800xt's came out. Macci is at 750MHz now. I fail to see where he can get another 250MHz from. 50-100 maybe but no way 250 :(

[zakelwe]

Mind you, there is always the 99th percentile card that " very luckily " falls into the hands of someone like the top 3d benchers.

Most of the time of course these cards end up at stock speeds doing mainly Freecell.

So I think it is possible but also highly unlikely, if someone does get one though they are going to be very hard to beat .

So the top out will be likely nearer 800 than 1000 by averages.

Regards

Andy

[althes]

So will we all be able to get the scores macci is geting 30k, with the X800XT.

[r3b0rN]

ovcourse, however because 3d01 isnt so gpu intensive, your going to have to erase that cpu bottleneck as much as possible, the only test you'll do quite well with even with a crappy cpu/fsb oc is nature.

[nailbomb]

o nailbomb is that a pic of your cat in your avatar???

Well, no....welll, maybe....

I predict that it is indeed NOT my cat with an unreasonable degree of uncertainty. Or, is that a UNreasonable degree of CERTAINTY? Or, wait a minute...maybe its a reasonable degree of certainty? Ermm...uhhhhh.....a low order of probability perhaps?

I dunno...I can't predict WHO's cat it is.....

:banana:

"Consults text on Quantum Mechanics"

[texuspete00]

Lol.... another day another Gforce sig.... :D

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
LOL seems like one of his famous predictions.

Who even cares anymore. They're getting so good.

[althes]

so is macci going for 36k and when is OPP entering the race.

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by althes
so is macci going for 36k and when is OPP entering the race.
Not sure.

He is at a cooling disadvantage for now. Haven't heard anything about him getting a new system up and running yet. They aren't cheap...

[Geforce4ti4200]

I thought both Macci and Oppainter had dual casades? If not theres always ln2 which is EVEN better and theres dry ice. cheap and 2nd to casade. Jason's cooling of choice to be top of the orb

[r3b0rN]

pretty sure opp's dual cascade broke when trying to hit 10k in 03.

[Geforce4ti4200]

wow thats a big loss :( I thought just his 9800xt broke and he couldnt fix it. without a casade, he still has dry ice to do and will be like 2nd or 3rd place

[charlie]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
I thought both Macci and Oppainter had dual casades? If not theres always ln2 which is EVEN better and theres dry ice. cheap and 2nd to casade. Jason's cooling of choice to be top of the orb

GFT,
Just for future knowledge, although DI has a static temp of nearly -80C, it doesn't COOL like that! In practice, a DI rig cools more like a r404/r507 Mach II. Quite a step down from Cascade and a world apart from LN2 :D

C

[macci]

good point there charlie

example:
X800XT core clock:
dryice => 717
cascade => 752 (so far)

[Mini]

752... Darn that was a freakin lot... Hehe... Burst through the speed barrier... How high is ram speeds?? Are what are U coolin them with?

How cold does LN2 get??? Or what i mean is how cold the actual CPU gets@LN2???

Is it 1 of Tom Holcks cascades?? Or a homemade???

[Geforce4ti4200]

35MHz higher core clocks with casade over dry ice! That is just amazing! How much higher would ln2 give over casade, Macci? any estimates in the ballpark? Any plans to use ln2 ;) well dry ice is cheap and easily available over mach II prometeia and great for a quick benchmark. How long does a pound of dry ice last you? an hour?

[Mini]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
hes right, the 9600 pros run cooler so if Macci got his hands on one of those hed be at 850-900MHz. I doubt we will see past 800MHz on the x800s but once ati goes 90nm then yes 1GHz

Well Toms FX-53 is running 3.5Ghz@-112C degrees load i think he said... Wouldnt it be nice to see a X800XT on his cascade???

But who knows... Stop predicting... People said that 0.13 was 600Mhz max... It went way over that... Perhaps some1 will end up with a really nice X800XT and max OC it... Not very likley but maybe...

And besides... Who the hell cares??? Wait and see... All this prediction doesnt work in OC computer world... 1 CPU reached max 4Ghz... Another reaches 5.2Ghz...

Besides the 03 score will probably be beaten to hell by the 6800U... It scored 125XX@stock... And the thing is running 400Mhz...

[Geforce4ti4200]

no, the 12.5k was the extreme 6800u at 450/1200 the normal ones get near 12k and there 400/1100. the x800xt gets the same as a normal 6800u but the x800xt is way ahead in 2001

[texuspete00]

.... and the 6800U is better in 03... Less time posting - more time reading. Best '01 is probably A64 FX & X800Xt and in '03 P4EE & 6800. Expensive time to be a bencher. I'm not a 3dmark zealot but I see this, thought everyone did. :confused: Of course, this isnt a general rule but looks to be the trend.... see what's what when the dust settles.

[althes]

Its just a wait and see now.

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by Mini
But who knows... Stop predicting... People said that 0.13 was 600Mhz max... It went way over that...
On conventional cooling, yes.

But supercooling is a different story.

[Geforce4ti4200]

I dont know anyone that got their 9800 pro to 600MHz air cooled, but a few have done this with their 9600 pro/xt. supercooling greatly extends the limits :)

[***Deimos***]

Perhaps you guys should have a look see at that X800Pro scaling article on firingsquad.com
6800U vs x800xt doesnt matter. They are very similar in hardware and have very high performance (albeit nVidia still needs to fix lots of problems ;) ... but, in most cases they are CPU-limited!! Ofcourse if you play, and run benchmarks at 2048x1536, where you are GPU limited than diregard what I say, but for all us mortals, we need faster CPU. Perhaps thats why enthusiasts are getting so exited about Socket 939?

[HawainPanda]

isnt the x800 like .11?...which was why it could oc even more..

[Formann]

Originally posted by HawainPanda
isnt the x800 like .11?...which was why it could oc even more..

Its .13 .. like the RV360. Smart move to test the .13 design on their midrange cards before moving to .13 their high-end series.

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
I thought both Macci and Oppainter had dual casades?

I never had a Cascade. I would have to go to Captaincascade's shop when I wanted to bench with the cascade.
Last time there the 9800XT card blew:D

I should have a X800 pro next week.
I'll first shoot for my best score useing 404 MachI on CPU and -46C R22 cooler on the 800pro.
Then I'll step up to a Chilly1 GPU casdcade and see how much further the card clocks.

After all that, my new dual evap cascade for my house should be ready and I'll be able to bench here at home on a pretty nice cooler:D

I wish I had a damn card already though.

OPP

[Geforce4ti4200]

Then I wish you luck, as some has told me, he said that 3dmark 2001 has become very cpu limited now cause the gpus are so fast. you actually gain more in both dragothics with higher cpu speed than gpu speed now! any estimates what you will end up at, Oppainter? will you be getting s939 soon to try on your x800 pro

[Sampsa]

Just getting started with my Radeon X800 XT:

Vgpu mod (http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/video/x800_xt/vgpu.jpg)

13016 in 3DMark03 (http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/video/x800_xt/13016.gif) (Air cooling)

ORB Compare url (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2550569)

Tomorrow it's time for LN2!! :D

http://www.soneraplaza.fi/GetImages/GetImages_GetImage_jpg/0,2600,49501,00.jpg

[Geforce4ti4200]

wow sweet, try 2001, youd be the 2nd guy besides macci to try the x800xt. can you do a 2001 run with the x800xt stock? I still like to know for sure what it does in nature. 260fps?

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by Sampsa
Just getting started with my Radeon X800 XT:

Vgpu mod (http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/video/x800_xt/vgpu.jpg)

13016 in 3DMark03 (http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/video/x800_xt/13016.gif) (Air cooling)

ORB Compare url (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2550569)

Tomorrow it's time for LN2!! :D

http://www.soneraplaza.fi/GetImages/GetImages_GetImage_jpg/0,2600,49501,00.jpg

Very nice Sampsa, hope things go well for you tomorrow. What voltage are you running the Ati at ?

You ought to come over here more often with your endeavours . :toast:

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

I am slightly puzzled by the change in colour between gpu mod card and Ln2 card though.

Does the Ln2 shock the red paint pigment into quivering green paint pigment ? :)

Regards

Andy

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by Sampsa
Just getting started with my Radeon X800 XT:

Vgpu mod (http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/video/x800_xt/vgpu.jpg)

13016 in 3DMark03 (http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/video/x800_xt/13016.gif) (Air cooling)

ORB Compare url (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2550569)

Tomorrow it's time for LN2!! :D

http://www.soneraplaza.fi/GetImages/GetImages_GetImage_jpg/0,2600,49501,00.jpg

Good to see you back on the orb Sampsa. Top of the hall of fame at that:D
Nice looking v-mod, I like the on-off jumper.

Macci,
When will you be putting up scores on the Hall of fame?

I got me a X800 Pro and I'll be doing some runs tonight with 404a on the CPU and R22 on the GPU.

Looking good:)

OPP

[oc-rookie]

Great job Sampsa! Keep them coming, you should hit 14-14.5 once you ramp up the card clocks.

Zakelwe, the vgpu mod is a photo of a pro, and the dry ice photo is of his xt. Nice clean work on the vgpu mod!

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by oc-rookie
Great job Sampsa! Keep them coming, you should hit 14-14.5 once you ramp up the card clocks.

Zakelwe, the vgpu mod is a photo of a pro, and the dry ice photo is of his xt. Nice clean work on the vgpu mod!

OCRookie,

Congrads on you and 2fast4Us scores, nice benching:toast:

OPP

[oc-rookie]

Thanks boss! We'll be in major catch up mode once you get up and running. Looking forward to your benchs. :toast:

These cards run almost too cool, I have only had two 1 hour sessions before I had to shut down for condensation.....

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by oc-rookie
Thanks boss! We'll be in major catch up mode once you get up and running. Looking forward to your benchs. :toast:

These cards run almost too cool, I have only had two 1 hour sessions before I had to shut down for condensation.....

Thats funny about the cards running cool.
I had mine on my R22 cooler last night, the thing was doing -58, never has it been that cold.
My session only lasted half an hour before the fog rolled in through my window and put a damper on things:D

OPP

[Sampsa]

Thanks everyone.

The green card is actually Macci's beta-version of X800 Pro. I'm just running some benchmarks to Muropaketti.com's R420 article and we tested the copper cup with it. VGPU mod is done on X800 XT.

We'll be doing some heavy overclocking tomorrow together with Macci and Kamu. Later it's time for sauna, beer etc, whole LN2 session will be broadcasted to Internet live via webcam ;-)

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by Sampsa
Thanks everyone.

The green card is actually Macci's beta-version of X800 Pro. I'm just running some benchmarks to Muropaketti.com's R420 article and we tested the copper cup with it. VGPU mod is done on X800 XT.

We'll be doing some heavy overclocking tomorrow together with Macci and Kamu. Later it's time for sauna, beer etc, whole LN2 session will be broadcasted to Internet live via webcam ;-)

Looking forward to the show.
You can leave the sauna shots out though:D

OPP

[oc-rookie]

Originally posted by Sampsa
Thanks everyone.

The green card is actually Macci's beta-version of X800 Pro. I'm just running some benchmarks to Muropaketti.com's R420 article and we tested the copper cup with it. VGPU mod is done on X800 XT.

We'll be doing some heavy overclocking tomorrow together with Macci and Kamu. Later it's time for sauna, beer etc, whole LN2 session will be broadcasted to Internet live via webcam ;-)

Whoops I was totally opposite. hmmm 3 benchers with LN2, beer, and new hardware......:rocker:

[macci]

Hehe yea its gonna be silly Team Finland pwnage tomorrow (hopefully we dont get too drunk before the OCing starts..) :D

GFti4200, You'll see some 2001 action next week once I get Win2000 installed on my A64+K8N rig. Should give a decent result with this crazy OCZ RAM stuff (SPi 1M @295MHz 1:1 3-2-2-8-8-16 so far). The CPU should be able to run at 282x11 1:1 - maybe more if I do couple extra Vmods to mobo and remove the spreader =)

[ctgilles]

Can't wait macci :)
But just like OPP suggested, do leave out the drunk sauna shots. You never know what could happen :smileysex :D ;)

edit: LOL @ our postcounts :)

[althes]

cant wait on those results

[macci]

Looks like OPP just got the top spot from the HAll Of Fame of Futuremark:
13552 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2553310) with X800Pro :toast:

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by macci
Looks like OPP just got the top spot from the HAll Of Fame of Futuremark:
13552 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2553310) with X800Pro :toast:

Thats it for the night:)
I'll try the Chilly1 GPU cascade tomorrow and see If I can't get this card running higher.

OPP

[Geforce4ti4200]

thats not bad at all, what clocks did you manage to do? also how did you do in 3dmark 2001 ;)


http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7850206

just found that link. not bad at all. nice round number too. wow almost 300 in nature, thats just sick! I remember when your 200fps on 9800xt blew everyone away, history repeats itself :banana: :toast:

[STEvil]

Opp, tried setting the X800 to AGP4x in the display settings? *hint hint* ;)

[ctgilles]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Thats it for the night:)
I'll try the Chilly1 GPU cascade tomorrow and see If I can't get this card running higher.

OPP
C'mon... Wakey wakey :D
And I wanna see Macci on webcam/tv/whatever ... :D

[zakelwe]

:toast:

Nice work Opp, seems strange so few XS team mebers at the top of the Orb, glad there is ..one !

Good luck with the dual cascade as well.

Drinking and then LN2, those crazy Fins. I don;t want to see the sauna shots either, especially if you start hitting yourselves with branches .. urrgh !

Any link to the web broadcast ?

Going to be a fun weekend

Regards

Andy ( with chicken pox off his daughter :( )

[NeGe0]

Someone better record that video for me. I'm going to have to be slaving away at work mand won't be able to see it. I don't want to miss the sauna parts ;-). Please keep those in....lol.

[andyddr]

Off topic but Andy be careful there. I had it about 8 months ago and I`ve never felt so bad...2 weeks in a cold dark room was all I wanted (so what`s changed lol).

BTW well done to Macci, OPP and oc-rookie!

[Sampsa]

Webcam is up and running:

http://www.muropaketti.com/webcam

I'm picking Macci from train station in 2 hours and overclocking starts propably in 3-4 hours.

:-----)

[Sampsa]

BTW, Whole session will be also recorded with videocam and I'll edit short film later.

[andyddr]

This is going to be good. I`m off to watch some rugby and back in a few hours to see drunk Fins set world records. Good weekend me thinks. Sampsa just remember the cup with black stuff around it is`nt beer :)

[Geforce4ti4200]

I am going to bed now, but good luck Macci! what do you predict you will get this time? 37k? 38k? also I look forward to seeing recorded webcam of your overclock and beer party :D

[I²K]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
I am going to bed now, but good luck Macci! what do you predict you will get this time?

This is your job. :D
You're job is the theorie and macci's for the practice.

BTW: Nice to see what cpu clocks show up in the Top 20. A 2 GHz Athlon and some 3.4 GHz P IV. Compare this with maccis 10K XT run. :slobber:

These cards are really NexGen.

[andyddr]

Webcam showing some action....

[I²K]

Originally posted by andyddr
Webcam showing some action....

Yes. F1 on TV, LN2 on TFT. What about lowering the refresh time from 30 to 20s?

[All Kill3r]

thank you sampsa for letting us watch :D

[andyddr]

Yeah please guys can you lower the refresh time. So which one is Macci? Light or dark top?

[fragsta]

I can't believe that we have the honor to see some live LN2 oc'ing.


You have just made my day better :toast:

Good luck and have fun

:toast:

[andyddr]

Very neat work guys. Loads of style :up:

[scrible88]

This is insane stuff I am watching it. Is Macci who is soldering something to the graphics card, wearing the white sweatshirt and has a silver wring on his left hand?

[scrible88]

and who is sitting in the chair in the background?

[All Kill3r]

woot refresh updated :D

thanks again crazy fin drunk overclockers :slobber:

[andyddr]

Any chance of setting it to 10-12s refresh? Most of the guys here are only getting half the image before it refreshes.

[andyddr]

Thanks guys. Much better :up:

[Geforce4ti4200]

couldnt sleep ;)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8417/wowmacci.jpg

[Geforce4ti4200]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6606/wowmacci2.jpg


whats those hands doing? did the 3dmark run crash? I notice ln2 being poured every 2 min. anyway I cant wait to see what happens when this is all done, should be about 38k 3dmarks :D

[Kanavit]

Macci is the skinny dude.

[r3b0rN]

lol this is sweet

[Ravilj]

What would be the chance of getting some shots of the screen?

[ant1]

gettin interesting now

[Ravilj]

nevermind the screen has appeared! :D

[andyddr]

Guys your camers is upside down. Mmmm looks like the beer might be working it`s magic hehe

[andyddr]

Macci if that`s you at the command in the white beanie I`m getting worried. Those beers seem to be going down way too easy :)

[Epsilon]

3dmark is running flawlessly :)

[Epsilon]

15439 points (first run)

[andyddr]

Yeah but I missed the score. As it finnished they moved the camera away.

Edit: Thanks Epsilon I missed it.

[ctgilles]

I've got a Samsung 181T, is yours the same? Sweet screens eh :)

[Ravilj]

They should get a board/paper/something and write the current clocks on it for us to see...

Wonder what system they are running...

This is great big thanks to them for inviting us to the party...

[Geforce4ti4200]

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2489/wtfonly.jpg

He must be using the official drivers now, this hurt his score bad. Macci had 16k on the beta drivers, woulda broke 17k if he used the betas!

[Epsilon]

http://members.home.nl/epsilon/image14.jpg

:)

edit:
FFS geforce :P

[andyddr]

Yes,thanks guys. This is way better than my normal Saturday p0rn download session (just kidding).

[ctgilles]

I must sya the system boots quite fast :D

[HawainPanda]

oh wow...kewl

[Peen]

Ok so whos who? they all skinny looking to me :D whos the one sitting with the xtremely white cloths on a bench or something? lol hes benching on the bench! that macci?

[Viper8]

Originally posted by Ravilj
They should get a board/paper/something and write the current clocks on it for us to see...
IRCNet
#ln2-sessio

[andyddr]

Yo Geforce I thought u were going to bed? Would and could, maybe and should be. Dude please lets just sit back and admire these guys without your predictions for just one day...please I beg of you. If we see 17K 2day then great but let`s not jump the gun.

[Ravilj]

I wanna know what system they are using!!!!

What better than to drink beer while waiting for a benchmark to finsih!

[Ravilj]

viper 8 what server are you using?

[Epsilon]

http://members.home.nl/epsilon/image17.jpg

[ctgilles]

LOL :D

[Peen]

server ircnet doesnt seem to exist

[Viper8]

Originally posted by Ravilj
viper 8 what server are you using?
I can't get any programs to work so I used this:
http://chat.ircnet.org/

[Geforce4ti4200]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3598/muchbet.jpg


Much better, I guess Macci was just warming up with very low x800xt clocks. He is close to beating his own record of 16k then onwards to 17k!

[Ravilj]

thanks viper 8!!!

[ctgilles]

Geforce4ti4200
05-22-2004 03:27 PM This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

^^ OMG, my life rocks now :D

[Sampsa]

GT1 = 399,4 fps :DDD

Only 4,2 GHz for CPU :()

[ant1]

16377 now

[I²K]

Originally posted by Sampsa
GT1 = 399,4 fps :DDD

Only 4,2 GHz for CPU :()

Is the cpu @ his limit? Some FX action to come?

[The Stilt]

16489 points :D

[Geforce4ti4200]

omg 16774 for Macci now!(too bad for those who put me on ignore) I told you everyone that Macci was warming up when he hardly broke 15k. He keeps upping the x800xt clocks!

[Fewture]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
omg 16774 for Macci now!(too bad for those who put me on ignore) I told you everyone that Macci was warming up when he hardly broke 15k. He keeps upping the x800xt clocks!
Why are you not banned from here? We dont need your predictions man.

[I²K]

Originally posted by Viper8
IRCNet
#ln2-sessio

Whats the complete server adress? I get a "socket closed" on irc.ircnet.org/6667 and th webinterface slows my rig down.

[Sampsa]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
omg 16774 for Macci now!(too bad for those who put me on ignore) I told you everyone that Macci was warming up when he hardly broke 15k. He keeps upping the x800xt clocks!

It's Team Finland, not macci alone :)

[Geforce4ti4200]

understood, but Macci is the brains behind the team and we will keep congratulating as he closes in 17k :D

[afireinside]

He may be the "brains" but everyone else deserves credit :stick:

[I²K]

Originally posted by Sampsa
It's Team Finland, not macci alone :)

He is a ev. christian and he is only allowed to have one god. Sorry for you. he'll never predict for you :D

BTW: Very nice idea with the webcam and nice score too. :toast:

[afireinside]

lol wtf there like putting a drill in the ln2 GPU container :lol:

Nice beer cans to :p:
I love your setup to. Great idea with the webcam thats f'n awesome. Should be a TV show.