ati rubin demo

[saaya]

can anybody get it to run? it tells me i need dx9.0b rev2.b ? :confused:

[Mrstickinit]

Nope, I cannot get it to run either. Same error message.

[berkut]

Works nice on a 5800U (3-4fps MAX, usually about 0.5fps)
for ATi http://www.users.on.net/triforce/ruby/r300rubyrap.zip
for NV3x http://www.users.on.net/triforce/NV3xRuby.zip

[Soulburner]

How the heck do you run it? There is no executable...

[empty]

Installation
============

Extract r300rubyrap.zip (with directories) to the "ATI Demos\DoubleCross" directory and you are done.

[craig588]

I'm downloading it now and I'll see how well it runs on a r9800pro 256M DDR2 card at 462/378.

EDIT: it runs kinda bad...crashing while its loading.

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by empty
Installation
============

Extract r300rubyrap.zip (with directories) to the "ATI Demos\DoubleCross" directory and you are done.
Yeah I know the directions. All it has is a dll file and there is no executable.

[STEvil]

the dll is so it will run with older vers of dx.

you still need to download the demo from the ati site.

[r3b0rN]

my fx 5200 would run it just fine im sure :D

lol, welp getting my bday money tomorrow ill spend it all on a video card :D probably 9800 pro... but if the prices are good enuf, ill be getting the 6800nu.

[ant1]

Is there any movie with the demo running? I wanna see it now but my gf2 won´t run it I guess.:p

[prizm77]

Here's the demo link for those who cant find it, took me 5 minutes http://www.ati.com/developer/demos/rx800.html

[craig588]

well, I tried it agian after I slept and it worked. (Maybe I needed to restart the computer) It worked fine on my card, and only got a little bit slow for about 2 seconds at one part.

[macci]

http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/ruby/R2.jpg
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/ruby/R3.jpg
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/ruby/R4.jpg

[Soulburner]

Ok I thought that was the demo itself, I had no idea as no one mentioned anything about it...i'll check it out later.

[lalPOOO]

What the hell? Nice non existant arm pits.

[Geforce4ti4200]

//================================================== ===
// ATI Sushi Error Log Created 5/8/2004 11:59 pm
//================================================== ===
[AwFn.cpp] (line 803): D3DAw Error: AwInitWindow - Unable to create a D3D device
[Main.cpp] (line 720): AwInitWindow returned FALSE! Unable to create window! Quitting!


maybe I need to be using the 53.03 or forceware drivers? has anyone ran that demo on nvidia hardware and/or with 40.72 drivers

[Peen]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
//================================================== ===
// ATI Sushi Error Log Created 5/8/2004 11:59 pm
//================================================== ===
[AwFn.cpp] (line 803): D3DAw Error: AwInitWindow - Unable to create a D3D device
[Main.cpp] (line 720): AwInitWindow returned FALSE! Unable to create window! Quitting!


maybe I need to be using the 53.03 or forceware drivers? has anyone ran that demo on nvidia hardware and/or with 40.72 drivers

ROFL u jking right?? :confused:

[Geforce4ti4200]

I was told I needed a dx9 card perhaps? I can stick my fx5200 in there but ill probably get 10fps cause fx5200 sucks :(

[Peen]

it says my Video card doesnt meet the requirements? i got 9800P and cat 4.4's + DX9.0B

[Geforce4ti4200]

did you get the same error as me? copy and paste it please. Maybe you need an x800 series to run the demo? meh 95% of the people wont be able to run it, how gay

[Peen]

nvm i did it wrong. but, really still doesnt work.... it takes FOREVER for the loading bar to get to the other side, then says "Warming Caches" and PC locks up

[Geforce4ti4200]

that stupid demo is probably buggy as hell, meh forget it. real games run flawlessly for me and most of us. im gonna soon delete that 130mb nonfunctional demo. gonna give it another try in 3 years when I get an x800xt

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
I was told I needed a dx9 card perhaps? I can stick my fx5200 in there but ill probably get 10fps cause fx5200 sucks :(
Originally posted by berkut
Works nice on a 5800U (3-4fps MAX, usually about 0.5fps)

[Geforce4ti4200]

somethings wrong because someone in another forum ran it smooth on a 9600xt LOL

[Peen]

well i got it past the warming cache.... but it makes an error sound then all i see is distorted image like i overclocked my 9800 to 1ghz really fast. wtf :rolleyes: made me restart for the 4th time

well im only running in 4x mode cuz this board wont let me do 8x

[Geforce4ti4200]

maybe it only works with the latest cat drivers or maybe you need a special patch for NON x800 cards?

[Peen]

i have 4.4cats , i said that earlier

[aoc007]

That demo was made for 3Dc so the texture memory used is about 4x 250mb since on x800 it uses 250mb with 4x 3Dc compression so I wouldnt bother trying to run it unless you have a X800. But if people say it works on other video cards then go ahead but I dont see much of a point.....

[Peen]

well it sure dont work on my Radeon9800pro

[aoc007]

If it doesnt work on a 9800XT then I doubt itll work on anything else other than a R420.

[Peen]

the only thing i can think thats not letting it work is because its running 4x AGP? this ECS board doesnt let it run 8x

[macci]

Guys, its a X800 tech demo - its not designed to run on a bloody GF4!

It will not run on any other card unless you do some 'special tricks' - there are wrappers for other cards (ATI and nVidia).
see berkut's post..

[Peen]

macci thats what i used, didnt want to work

[Geforce4ti4200]

people at another forum have had luck getting it to work on a 9800 pro, one guy got it to run on a 9600xt. I am gonna try my fx5200 and see if itll even work, I dont care if its a slideshow I just wanna see the graphics :(

[Peen]

well i got it to work, cat 4.4's dont seem to work with it. I installed Cat 3.2's lol.

Anyways its a slideshow, maybe 3 FPS with it....

480core , 380mem

[Peen]

I think the problem is my video memory. 128mb isnt enuf, and sometimes when there is nothing really going on in the demo it does over 30 fps easy, then it changes to another aspect and totally lags out.


Geforce4 , until someone here trys it on a 9600 I highly doubt it that it works flawlessly..

[Cow2kie]

change ur vid mem to 256 in bios instead of 128.. that'll help it some (from another forum someone posted that)

i ran this on my system.. the main problem is memory .. system and vid it'll run smooth and then have to load.. run smoooth.. then have to load
but like macci said.. its a tech demo for x800xt.. not a tech demo for gf4

[Peen]

mine is set to 256. how much ram u got? I got 512, but cant hear swapping at all

[p0rl1n]

I have 1gig ram, 256 meg agp ap. and 9700pro (oc to 9800pro speeds, cat 4.3) and it runs smooth ~30fps average. if you want to see something really cool put the d3d9.dll wrapper in the x800 subsurface demo. colourless didn't write any special shaders for it (yet) so you get a few errors, but it still looks impressive.

[Peen]

can u do me a huge favor and run with 512mb of ram?

[p0rl1n]

peen, i just removed 512mb of ram and it ran horribly. the loading bar took forever, stayed at 90% for a while, and warming caches took longer too. my hdd activity light was going almost the whole time where as it only comes on 4-5 times with 1gig ram. and the demo was like a slide show with only a few parts of above 10fps. but it did run alot smoother the second time through.

[Peen]

thanks man. thats probly my problem then

[Confused_User]

Just ran the demo with a 9700np and 512mb of RAM. Ran very choppy, didnt know what was going on.

[Confused_User]

more....

[Confused_User]

more.....

[prizm77]

I ran this on my 9800pro and it was fine, choppy the first time at points, but then quit and load it again, runs pretty nice.

Did you guys install the .exe and then extract the zip to the DoubleCross dir? I'm pretty sure you have to use the .zip to make it compatible

http://www.users.on.net/triforce/ruby/r300rubyrap.zip

[macci]

here (http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/ruby/R10.jpg) is how that previous pic was meant to be rendered (some more pics in the same folder - ran on X800Pro and X800XT)

[Peen]

man this is choppy..

even if i run 320x200 with no AA and all High Performance it lags...
if i up it to 1280x1024 and put 4x AA it lags exactly the same..

[berkut]

Well, here's how it looks on a FX5800U

[prizm77]

it works fine on my 9800pro ..
anyone else try using the zip?

[TinTin]

Originally posted by prizm77
it works fine on my 9800pro ..
anyone else try using the zip?

It works after patched. :)
But will get some error message when running the subsurface demo.

[STEvil]

runs great on my 9700np @ 420/350 and 768mb ram.

went to 1600x1200 with 2x aa (through the ini) and it still ran decently.

[r3b0rN]

lol did about .2 fps on my fx 5200 :D

how do u change the res?

[berkut]

Originally posted by STEvil
runs great on my 9700np @ 420/350 and 768mb ram.

went to 1600x1200 with 2x aa (through the ini) and it still ran decently.

decently = how many fps ?

[STEvil]

20+ aside from the jerky areas.

If I run 1024x768 with no AA enabled in the ini then I dont get the jerks, so its probably texture swapping thats causing it.

Change the res from the ini that is in the same folder as the exe, reborn.

[bias_hjorth]

hmm seems to be working on my r350 (450mhz core) but there´s some places where it lags quite a bit.. And I meen big lags :D But overall its runs smooth... and the graphics...... damn nice!

[Soulburner]

The text file said it may not run well, or at all, on machines with 512mb of memory or less.

Honestly though from the screenshots I have seen the Nvidia demo is better looking.

[bias_hjorth]

then its quite lucky i´ve got 1gb :) It runs however on 512mb machines :)

[LoudHoward]

She's pretty

[Bra!nFreeZe^]

W0W those are some very nice screendumps! well I dont want to sit and download 1xx mb and patch it afterwards and then just maybe end with something that doesnt work, so Im currently download the FX5900 demo Vulcan :)

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_vulcandemo_home.html

[STEvil]

I agree, the demo does kinda look like butt on R3X0 series.. but for those with X8 series... ;)

[Peen]

ok what in the f'ing hell is going on. it ran OK yesterday, with cat3.2s, tried again today it loads SLOOOOW as hell and just locks up at Warming Cache part, then blue screens with nothing on it. when i restart it says Radeon 9800 Pro was responsible for the error because it could not draw or something.

not only that but every game is lagging like crazy, tried uninstalling drivers with driver destroyers, cat removers... tried like every driver and its acting all gay now. i swear i have the worst luck ever :mad: :stick:

[Der_KHAN]

agp aperture size lower than 256mb?

[***Deimos***]

I believe he had aperature at 256mb.

My $0.02.
If those screenshots are the same frames:
R3x0 is missing the highlights and depth of field, and shadows probably too (Pretty much anything PS related).
5800 in berkut screenshot has the shading, highlights and depth of field, but the shading difffers from the "reference" posted by Macci. Again not sure if exactly the same frame. nVidia seems to be having a lot of trouble with shadows so it might be a driver bug.
Overall: very disappointed with how it looks on the R3x0. Anybody with better R3x0 screenshot (with shadows/highlights/depth field) for the same frame?

[DjTonic]

Hy here are few pictures of Ruby demo emulated on 9800XT used Wrapper v1.1.

Ruby EYE (http://www.slo-comp.net/upload/djtonic/news/1084057847Oka.jpg)
Sushi 1 (http://www.slo-comp.net/upload/djtonic/news/1084056859AtiSushi02.jpg)
Sushi 2 (http://www.slo-comp.net/upload/djtonic/news/1084056889AtiSushi03.jpg)
Sushi 3 (http://www.slo-comp.net/upload/djtonic/news/1084056925AtiSushi5.jpg)
Sushi 4 (http://www.slo-comp.net/upload/djtonic/news/1084056953AtiSushi10.jpg)
Sushi 5 on 1600x1200 6AA (http://www.slo-comp.net/upload/djtonic/news/1084059475AtiSushi06.jpg)

http://www.slo-comp.net/upload/djtonic/news/1084056810AtiSushi01.jpg

[Soulburner]

Why does it look a lot better on the Nvidia than it does on the ATI? That's got to be humiliating...

[Peen]

i think my card is messed up or something. it used to work, but now it doesnt no matter what drivers..... and the scatter one KIND of works but it crashes after like 5 seconds into it.i have to power down and when i restart it says RADEON9800PRO was responsible for the instabilty. :rolleyes:even the scatter demo or whatever its called worked fine before

[Formann]

//================================================== ===
// ATI Sushi Error Log Created 5/15/2004 5:11 am
//================================================== ===
[Main.cpp] (line 894): Exception caught - BAD NEWS!


:mad:

[Peen]

with Cat 4.5's it runs suprisingly well! i run it all the way up to 1600x1200 4x FSAA and 16x AF ... high Quality just fine. it does swap alot though, but before with older drivers it was pure videocard lag for me, now its just not enuf ram lag :D

[DjTonic]

Another one a little bit lighter.

6AA, 16AF
http://www.slo-comp.net/upload/djtonic/news/1084631334AtiSushi04Light.jpg

[Godmyster]

Cant run the .exe from the ai site on my 9800pro :\

[Tedinde]

Runs on mine also. 1 gig of memory, dropped to 512 and it was choppy. 4ghz 525 core/400 memory.

It also ran on my XP rig @ 2.6ghz and a 9800 non pro @ 485core/350memory.

[Godmyster]

Tedinde witch one are u using? the ATi onde on the site doesnt give for me :(

[Peen]

you have to use the special thing, found in Berkuts post on the first page ;)

the demo is made for X800 series so you need it

[Godmyster]

Hum Thx got it to work but it goes pretty slow :rolleyes: 5/6fps i get sometimes up to 60 though when there fighting ehehe :D my sig aint that good to :(

[Peen]

well 512 isnt enough, 1gig is enough.

maybe 768 is right on the edge of being enough ram? i dont think CPU makes a difference at all
and try Cat 4.5's it helps alot!

[Tedinde]

Originally posted by Godmyster
Tedinde witch one are u using? the ATi onde on the site doesnt give for me :(

i downloaded and installed from ATI, then from the first page i downloaded the zip r300 file and installed it. Then fired it up.

worked the first time.

[charlie]

Tedinde,
good to see ya'.....
I love free demos :D
I've been playing UT2k4 :D and am still frag-happy

C

[Godmyster]

I have cat4.5 installed :rolleyes:

[Cornelious0_0]

Well, installed the demo on my sig system with 4.5 Cats and extracted the rubyrar and it worked fine first try. Even with my system at 100% full load (Prime stress testing) it was a constant 24fps+.....very nice.

Stupid question, maybe i missed something, but is there a newer "patch" for it to get rid of the "dark" look of the shadows on her face and things?

I understand that I'm missing the depth of field, but I could have sworn I saw a thread on this and there was a newer version of the wrapper. Or.....is the one linked to on here the newest one?

[p0rl1n]

here is the newest one "ruby rap 2"
http://www.users.on.net/triforce/ruby/r300rubyrap2.zip

from the readme:
"All the problem shaders have been multipassed. All of them but one should produce the same output as the long
shaders used by the X800. The one that wont be the same is the one for the Cornea Reflections on Ruby's eyes.
Things will be a bit different for that one, but it shouldn't be hugely different."

[p0rl1n]

dof

[p0rl1n]

..

[Cornelious0_0]

Nice stuff, and thanks for that link. I really like how everything is fixed up with the second wrapper.....all the shadows and DOF are back in full glory. ;)

Of course it bottoms out a lot lower then it used to.....13fps for a low as opposed to 21fps at the same settings, but it was worth it. :D

[STEvil]

definately looks nicer ;)

[saaya]

hmmmm i get around 8fps i think

512mb 9500np@8 pipes 275/270 axp@10x200

[STEvil]

It runs like crud on less than 768mb ram

[IvanAndreevich]

I am pretty sure it has >128 MB's of textures. Sometimes AGP swap is obvious...

[Cornelious0_0]

Originally posted by IvanAndreevich
I am pretty sure it has >128 MB's of textures. Sometimes AGP swap is obvious...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it does.....which is also where 3Dc comes in handy from what I've heard.....personally I wouldn't WANT to see it running on a 128MB card with less then 768MB (or 1GB) of system ram.

Man I'm spoiled. ;)

[r3b0rN]

Originally posted by Cornelious0_0
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it does.....which is also where 3Dc comes in handy from what I've heard.....personally I wouldn't WANT to see it running on a 128MB card with less then 768MB (or 1GB) of system ram.

Man I'm spoiled. ;) lol how are old are you? plz dont tell me your parents bought ur whole comp :D

[Cornelious0_0]

Originally posted by r3b0rN
lol how are old are you? plz dont tell me your parents bought ur whole comp :D

I'm 18, and out of school so no.....I bought all my stuff. Aside from what I've got in my sig right now I've put down over $8,000 (Canadian) into stuff for my comp over the last year and a half or so. I know there are others around here that have put much more then that into their comps.....but you've gotta admit that it aint bad for an 18 year old. ;)

Sad thing is that I've never had a second rig, it's all been consistent of rapidly buying parts for mine, and selling them to get/try something else. I think my record to this day would be when I had my 9600Pro.....for a whole 3 days, before I sold it to get my 9800Pro. :cool:

By spoiled I meant that I'm spoiled by having my comp.....to the extent that I can't stand using anything slower. ;)

K.....enough about me. :D

[Spec3]

She looks like the reception lady at ATI in Canada.

She says: Your back with another RMA?
Me says: Uhh...yeah ;)

Steve

[Cornelious0_0]

Originally posted by Spec3
She looks like the reception lady at ATI in Canada.

She says: Your back with another RMA?
Me says: Uhh...yeah ;)

Steve

Heh, funny.

Man, I'd love to actually go TO ati some day...................................ROAD TRIP!!!!! :toast:

[LastMan]

Ruby demo would not work with my new X800Pro but a bit o' fiddlin with the sushi config file and hey presto works fine..

config text:
//================================================== ==========================
// Sushi.ini - Engine initialization
//================================================== ==========================
// $Header: //depot/3darg/Demos/R400/Rhino/Rel/Sushi.ini#10 $
//================================================== ==========================

restartOnScriptChange = F

demoName = "Ruby: The Double Cross"
logo2 = F

resolution = 1280x1024 CHANGED FROM 1024x768

multisampleType = 1 CHANGED FROM 4
fullScreen = T
aspect = 4x3

vsync = T
numBackBuffers = 2
forceColorClear = F

music = T
soundfx = F

restartOnEndManualCamera = T

cycleAllModes = T
//productInfo = T
//launchMode = T
//avi = T
//aviFPS = 29.97




sorry if this has previously been resolved but couldnt be arsed to read ALL the posts

[r3b0rN]

cant see how that would fix it, its just the res after all... dosnt ur monitor support 1280x1024?

[LastMan]

Originally posted by r3b0rN
cant see how that would fix it, its just the res after all... dosnt ur monitor support 1280x1024?

the change did fix it otherwise why would i post???

and please read the post as it says i changed TO 1280x1024

[aoc007]

Thats weird that it wouldn't work on your X800 Pro since its made to work on it.... Are you using the wrapper for video cards other than the x800 series or just the demo from ati.com?

[LastMan]

i am using the demo downloaded from ati, here's the message displaying the error:
// ==================================================
===
// ATI Sushi Error Log
// ==================================================
===
[AwFn.cpp] (line 803): D3DAw Error: AwInitWindow - Unable to create a D3D device
[Main.cpp] (line 720): AwInitWindow returned FALSE! Unable to create window! Quitting!



changing the setting in the sushi config I described in my post above made it work, I just set 4xAA+TAA, 16xAF in the CP and it looks grrrreat

[LastMan]

ps its a sapphire x800pro i have, and it clocks to 513/533 stable
maybe a little more but i cant be arsed to test all settings for stability :/

[LastMan]

pps and no its not a VIVO


//LastMan kicks himself /stupid stupid stupid//

[aoc007]

Hmm maybe a driver or directx problem? Because its made for that video card I'd think it would work no matter what the settings are...

[saaya]

its a direct x prob i think, ati used dx9.0c when they showed the demo to everybody.

dx9.0c is not released officially, but you can find it in the latest sp for xp ;)

[boshi]

I still havent got it running on this GF2 MX 32MB SDR... Maybe its the 128MB of RDRAM.

:(

[[_Silence_]]

Originally posted by boshi
I still havent got it running on this GF2 MX 32MB SDR... Maybe its the 128MB of RDRAM.

:(

Running in a GF2 is a waste of time =(
In my GF6800NU it runs @ 2/3 FPS, but really lagged..... =(

[boshi]

Originally posted by diogojcr
Running in a GF2 is a waste of time =(
In my GF6800NU it runs @ 2/3 FPS, but really lagged..... =(

yeah, I'm hoping it will run on my 9800XT.