View Full Version : Is the machI strong enough for dual evaps?
thesaucier
04-20-2004, 03:33 PM
Was just thinking I would love to have an evap for the vid card. Would it work and who does this kind o work?
runmc
04-20-2004, 03:45 PM
IMHO - two processors would drop a Mach I to it's knees.
Chilly1 can make you anything you want. He is awesome!!:D
thesaucier
04-20-2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by runmc
IMHO - two processors would drop a Mach I to it's knees.
Chilly1 can make you anything you want. He is awesome!!:D
Thats what I thought but are there any knee pads for this or is it in need of a total knee transplant. IE new compressor
Gary Lloyd
04-20-2004, 04:00 PM
Its a trade-off between temps and capacity. If tuned for a higher (heat load) capacity, the temps won't get as low.
runmc
04-20-2004, 04:53 PM
I wouldn't be happy if I had to lower my cooling temperature on my CPU, so I could cool my GPU. I would rather find another source to cool my GPU.
If you don't mind the sacrific, this idea may be perfect for you.;)
It was only a humble opinion. I was being so humble LOL:D
thesaucier
04-20-2004, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by runmc
I wouldn't be happy if I had to lower my cooling temperature on my CPU, so I could cool my GPU. I would rather find another source to cool my GPU.
If you don't mind the sacrific, this idea may be perfect for you.;)
It was only a humble opinion. I was being so humble LOL:D
No I totaly agree!
thesaucier
04-20-2004, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Gary Lloyd
Its a trade-off between temps and capacity. If tuned for a higher (heat load) capacity, the temps won't get as low.
Thank you very much for your responce Gary. So To get both cooled to the best temps I need a totaly new system or can changes be made to the one I have?
Hobocrow
04-20-2004, 05:10 PM
It's a matter of how much cooling you want ... if you want competition level cooling, then you need at least (1) prommie type cooler for each of the two main processors. If you require less, then there are chillers ,etc to aid in cooling! :)
Gary Lloyd
04-20-2004, 07:55 PM
Two separate systems are not necessary. If we increase the refrigerant flow to handle a heavier load, this raises the temps. But we can then go to a larger capacity compressor to bring it right back down. Then the condenser must handle the heavier combined heat load, so we need a larger condenser and/or more condenser airflow.
Hobocrow
04-20-2004, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Gary Lloyd
Two separate systems are not necessary. If we increase the refrigerant flow to handle a heavier load, this raises the temps. But we can then go to a larger capacity compressor to bring it right back down. Then the condenser must handle the heavier combined heat load, so we need a larger condenser and/or more condenser airflow.
Yes, but, can this be done with only an M1? :)
thesaucier
04-20-2004, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Gary Lloyd
Two separate systems are not necessary. If we increase the refrigerant flow to handle a heavier load, this raises the temps. But we can then go to a larger capacity compressor to bring it right back down. Then the condenser must handle the heavier combined heat load, so we need a larger condenser and/or more condenser airflow.
So would it be cost effective to get a bigger compressor and lager condenser with better fans??
Also I am very please to talk with you I have looked at many things you have done! I will be getting your book as well. the best I can relay to is the auto air conditioning I had in college. Thanks for the replies.
Gary Lloyd
04-20-2004, 11:51 PM
Yes, but, can this be done with only an M1?
I think a better question would be, "At what point is it no longer an M1?"
If we jack up the Ford emblem, and slide a new Cadillac under it, is it still a Ford?
thesaucier
04-20-2004, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Gary Lloyd
I think a better question would be, "At what point is it no longer an M1?"
If we jack up the Ford emblem, and slide a new Cadillac under it, is it still a Ford?
LOL yes I see.
Gary Lloyd
04-21-2004, 12:00 AM
So would it be cost effective to get a bigger compressor and lager condenser with better fans??
As compared to what? Buying a second Mach1? Yes, it could be done for considerably less, I think.
I take it the goal is to have two evaps, maintaining roughly the same evap temps that the single evap Mach1 now maintains, whatever that is. If someone were to ask me what the true evap temps are on a prommie under load, I would would not know the answer.
thesaucier
04-21-2004, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Gary Lloyd
As compared to what? Buying a second Mach1? Yes, it could be done for considerably less, I think.
I take it the goal is to have two evaps, maintaining roughly the same evap temps that the single evap Mach1 now maintains, whatever that is. If someone were to ask me what the true evap temps are on a prommie under load, I would would not know the answer.
Yes that was my thinking. Same temps and cheaper than another unit. While maintaning the same housing if possible. LOL a dream or just get another mach?
Gary Lloyd
04-21-2004, 12:37 AM
Definitely doable.
Tom Holck
04-21-2004, 08:18 AM
Tweak from Denmark have done it.
http://www.tweak.dk/forum/thread.php?threadid=17733&sid=aac8e77814518dc502627c4b4cd1359b
its in Danish, but look at the picture.:D
so how was the performance of it tom?
i only know he clocks to 3.6
what temps is he getting? is the setup serial or parallel?
Originally posted by Stan
what temps is he getting?
-32 it says on the front display, most probably at idle and it seems to have two condensers.
thesaucier
04-21-2004, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by JWB
-32 it says on the front display, most probably at idle and it seems to have two condensers.
I don't see the two condensors.
Tom Holck
04-21-2004, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Stan
so how was the performance of it tom?
i only know he clocks to 3.6
what temps is he getting? is the setup serial or parallel?
Not a system for me,
But impressive:
2x 2.8GHz @ 3.6GHz Pentium 4 Xeon (M0 stepping) Vcore mod 1.6v
I think it's a good OC for xeon 2.8
It's serial
Tom Holck
04-21-2004, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by thesaucier
I don't see the two condensors.
Look at the pictures
Pha_Q
04-21-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Tom Holck
Look at the pictures
LOL
chilly1
04-21-2004, 05:13 PM
Shorten the cap tube install a larger compressor or add another one it is doable. But If you pick up a i/2 hp condenser and a couple baker blocks you can have lower temps for about the same dinero. And still have the prommie for other cooling...
thesaucier
04-21-2004, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Tom Holck
Look at the pictures
Ah I did not scrool down far enough for that pic.
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