Hows this for a PSU

[ryanpgroovy]

5 volt 40a 12 volt 33amp 3.3 volt 28amp

23 dba or so at 60% load ( we are rating conservatively )

BTX ready , EPS 12 volt ready , server ready universal connectors

3 adjustable rails ( voltage monitor for rail adjustment )

low noise sheilded leads for the vid card ( 2 for new NVIDIA FX 6800 )


Please let me know what you all think of this

[ryanpgroovy]

more pics

[Çhrist0ph]

looks like it could be a winner. wont know till someone gets ahold of one and gives us the low-down on it...

[LikwidKool]

Man Ryan I have been sweatin that since I first saw the specs a while back. I have a 520 TTGI and a 530 FSP that I hold to be great PSU's but I have a feeling this new OCZ PSU will kill them. If I get some cash I am going to pick one up. When are they available?

[WildKard]

Hrm I love my modded Enermax 550w...if it ever bites the dust from those specs it certainly seems like it would be a top contender for my box...of course I will wait until some "xtreme" people give their opinion...looks very promising though

[ryanpgroovy]

I am guesing you will see them in stores by may 10th or so

[STEvil]

I need one, my Antec 400w smartpower is feeling the burn ;)

[charlie]

:thumbsup:

[Sarcastro]

Looks a hella lot like a ToPower.:D Even the 3d render of the package is the same.

I always had great rails with them, but they are a bit to loud (under full load) for my taste.

[Tedinde]

ryan

are you guys making this inhouse? or relabeled?

ez rail adjustment is very nice, so im guessing it's ocz's own design.

most important to us is...... Ballpark figure, What are guys pricing it at, to a roundabout suggested retail if you could give us a early wish.

my antec 550 or ttgi couldnt hold up powering my vapo,board, and tec, but my fortron 530 has been handling it fine. external adjustment is nice, without having to break the warranty seal.

but if it's a remarked true power, you can keep it. But good luck to your new venture if it isnt.

im going to kiss a little ocz ass today, i got a good 2.4chip in again, and have been running some ocz 4200 @ 310fsb 1:1 2.5-4-4-8 @ 3.1 volts.

who needs bh5

[Sarcastro]

The boxes look surprisingly similar to the 1st picture.

[Alex08]

are those 3 LED lights next to the socket plug?

sata connections?

[Minnyboy]

Thought it looked familiar....

Wouldn't they have to be smaller to be "BTX" ready??

I had one of them ToPower 520w a while back until my son thought we was in the US & turned the switch on me w/out me knowing....

Poor thing never knew what hit it:( ...The PSU that is...

How many fans?? Also when my ToPower died, I noticed thaat there weren't any adjustable rails in them...

So are they "inhouse" or third party??

Anyways, can't wait to see them tested by some of the more Xtreme guys.

Just a pity that there's a big premium for OCZ stuff here in OZ....I can still hear my kidney swearing at me for selling them to get some of the first 2x256MB OCZ Gold PC3700 in OZ...:D

Cheers,
Minnyboy:toast:

[bias_hjorth]

5v and 3.3v are looking g8... :)

[Arkangyl]

Wow, those specs are making me drool...

Just have to ask my fetish question though; will it have 2+ SATA rails (12v, 5v and 3.3v support); according to MaxPC SATA drives are going to need this 'real' SATA power soon; I've seen the real SATA ones on PC P&C's and the Noisetaker series...

[G|-|oST]

It seems that it is a re-badged product. This is not to say its poor quality, but just nothing really _new_. I mean if you are an OCZ fanboy you definitely have a new piece to add to the collection, (and don't forget the OCZ re-badged Arctic Silver thermal stuff ;) ) but otherwise you could probably find out who the OEM is for it and get one exactly like that for less money. The Topower brand is also OEM for Superflower which is also the same as TTGI. Looks like the same good quality product with yet another new and exciting brand name tattooed on its face.

[saaya]

very nice ryan! think about using a silent 120mm fan though, better cooling at less noise=more stable rails and higher max load :)

[ryanpgroovy]

These are pretty quiet ,

Topower is using the same housing , but the internal electronics are a bit difrent :-)


as far as people asking about it we speced it and are having it built to our spec

We basicaly ran around asking what people wanted to see ina psu

[BuickBeast]

looks nice, but can you list the msrp?

[ryanpgroovy]

I think 149 for the 520 ( its a guess)

[blinky]

looks awesome ryan

[zakelwe]

"low noise sheilded leads for the vid card ( 2 for new NVIDIA FX 6800 )"

Ok, what does this mean and does it actually work ? :)

Regards

Andy

[ryanpgroovy]

it means we put heavy sheilding on 2 molex connectors to prevent EMI to the video card

[Lithan]

What's avg and min eff % at full load?
What's peak and how long can it be sustained?
Whats load regulation, (max variance on each line)?
Max leakage current?
MTBF?
Amps at 110v?
Ripple on each line?

[ryanpgroovy]

I will have to ask the project manager for that detailed spec info

The 3 leds the monitor the voltage adjustment

BTX ready means it comes with the BTX connectorrs ect :toast:


Are far as trying to find some oem version , I am sure an identical unit wont be availible but , Maybe you will find the same spec cheaper . Maybe you will get a reliable warranty and customer service, who knows :D

Were just here to make the best product we can and offer it along with great service

[Techmasta]

Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
I think 149 for the 520 ( its a guess)

Hmmm I think I'll stick with my FSP-530 that I got for $75.

[Nebulous]

Looks very promising. I'd like to see it in action tho and a display of the rails under load :D

[iceman2g]

Does the Forton have adjustable rails? Also the cheapest I saw it was $85.

[LikwidKool]

Originally posted by Lithan
What's avg and min eff % at full load?
What's peak and how long can it be sustained?
Whats load regulation, (max variance on each line)?
Max leakage current?
MTBF?
Amps at 110v?
Ripple on each line?

Lithan I am not positive but I believe peak on the 520watt is 620watt for 60 seconds. The 470watt is 570, and the 420watt is 520. I believe these are final specs but Ryan could correct me if I am wrong.

[thirdeye]

Originally posted by iceman2g
Does the Forton have adjustable rails? Also the cheapest I saw it was $85.

yeah, has adjustable rails on inside of case, used to be about $15 cheaper till all the overclocking forums went nuts for them. I have one and it is great.

[ryanpgroovy]

haha the peaks seem right

[charlie]

Fortron FSP530

$85/Free Shipping @ Newegg.

3 adj pots, all the PSU anyone could need (short of a PCP&C)

C

[ryanpgroovy]

try to rember we are being conservative as possible and trying to compete with PCP & C :-)

[charlie]

Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
try to rember we are being conservative as possible and trying to tcompete with PCP & C :-)

:rolleyes:

With all due respect, do you know HOW the PCP&C are assembled? Hardly something that'd be private labeled for OCZ...

http://www.pcpowercooling.com/pdf/Turbo-Cool_510_vs.pdf

C

[ryanpgroovy]

Charlie


(edit)yes I understand exactly how they are made.(edit)

that being said

If our PSU turns out not to be quite as good , but a bit worse that the PCP & C unit , but its 100 bucks cheaper , I think we have done a good job

:toast:

[thirdeye]

it looks as if the OCZ will be competing for second with the fsp 530, and thats what charlie was referring to.

this thread was posted in the overclocking section, not the OCZ section, so you have to expect people to compare and contrast; if you dont want alternate viewpoints perhaps an ad would have been a better choice...

[ryanpgroovy]

Ah , Well I am not complaining about the contrast :-)

I am not even complaining thinking were second to PCP and C , as if thats where we are I am extremely happy :p

I just am bothered by " do you even know " comments as I get insulted a lot in forums and I get a bit touchy. This is a place I come to hang out among friends and talk about the cool stuff I do at work.

:toast: :toast: :toast:

[charlie]

Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
Ah , Well I am not complaining about the contrast :-)

I am not even complaining thinking were second to PCP and C , as if thats where we are I am extremely happy :p

I just am bothered by " do you even know " comments as I get insulted a lot in forums and I get a bit touchy. This is a place I come to hang out among friends and talk about the cool stuff I do at work.

:toast: :toast: :toast:

I think you misread :confused: my above post.
And as for your mild rant, I'm glad you edited it, or I WOULD HAVE... :D

I'm quite sure it will compete nicely with TTGI and Fortron... although at $149, it's scary close to the Turbo-Cool 510 Deluxe at $187...

No problem, no offense taken. But when you throw raw meat in with the pit bulls...

[ryanpgroovy]

I am hoping to beat out the fortron by good measure

I will give you all the noise and ripple numbers latter

I dont think my rant was to bad , just going on about knowing what I am doing:banana:

[STEvil]

Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
it means we put heavy sheilding on 2 molex connectors to prevent EMI to the video card

What exactly is sheilded? Just the molex connector end? Guess what an antenna on a phone does and how the wires going to the molex will do? ;)

[Spec3]

Originally posted by STEvil
What exactly is sheilded? Just the molex connector end? Guess what an antenna on a phone does and how the wires going to the molex will do? ;)

Looks like this

[texuspete00]

We all know the fortron is a good buy guys. Maybe the ratings are conservative, but at 16 amps on the +12v line it damn well better be. Dunno, don't have one and that is why. We like to buy cheap stuff that overclocks good but will pay some extra for something specc'd high. I dont own any OCZ stuff but whoever makes what, they take it and make it for us overclockers. Their OCZ 3700 Gold, well they dont make the ICs but they certainly work different than other ram with the same stuff. I havent seen anything like those shielded connectors on generic knock-offs. I don't own any OCZ stuff but probably will.

[solo]

you should sleeve the lines on the OCZ power supply, make it look a lot more attractive :(

[althes]

well can only wait and see how the psu works.

[ryanpgroovy]

Reviewers and beta testers should get there units soon :-)

[Jeff]

Originally posted by charlie
I'm quite sure it will compete nicely with TTGI and Fortron... although at $149, it's scary close to the Turbo-Cool 510 Deluxe at $187...

Yeah... it's so close that it's hard not to recommend the PC P&C unit for $38 more. If you're spending $150 on a PS... what's an additional $40. ;)

Personally... I have only once needed something more powerful than my 350 Fortron Source... and that was my 2.91GHz AMD XP-m. The 350 gave out around 2850MHz which isn't too shabby for an under $40 power supply. :up: It's replacement... an $80 530w Fortron Source. :lol: :D

BTW, if the OCZ is tested as more powerful than the PC P&C... it will be a hell-of-a deal. :toast:

[Lithan]

Originally posted by texuspete2k2
We all know the fortron is a good buy guys. Maybe the ratings are conservative, but at 16 amps on the +12v line it damn well better be.

That needs an answer. I've run 4x 2amp fans, 2x .75amp fans, 1x .5amp fan, NF7-S with amd 1700B at 2600mhz 2.1vcore, 2 hard drives, 3 optical drives, and all the standard stuff that doesn't involve 12v off a 530 fortron. 12v rail didn't even budge at molex. Calling it conservative is the understatement of the year. Except maybe a heavily overclocked, multiple cpu system... I don't think you will ever tax this psu. Power is not the issue here. We Know reliability is not an issue. The only reasons EVER to look at another PSU are voltage regulation (5% on all 3 standard lines, a bit more relaxed than antec, and alot more relaxed than PCP&C) and features (internal volt adjusts are kind of awkward).

If you ask me, OCZ seems to be building a feature-rich, rather than exacting PSU. Which would put it more in competition with a true-control, rather than pcp&c. With the cost as close to PCP&C as it's estimated to be, it will hinge on one thing, in my opinion. And that will be how much the lines fluctuate.

[Techmasta]

I might buy one if they were around $100 but right now I can still get a FSP-530 for a mere $74 shipped. I don't think my rails could get any better. Other than some sata connectors and btx support I don't think there is anything I couldn't live without on the OCZ psu. I don't think btx support is important right now because I don't think it will catch on. Not worth any extra cost.

[charlie]

one feature I would LOVE to see on a PSU...

on the back, add a LCD (or LED) display and a 3 way switch, live voltage readout 3.3v, 5v, 12v........ probably $3 in parts....would be a GREAT feature.

C

[jmke]

"on the back" <> "LCD"

if you turn "on the back" into 5.25" frontpanel then YES it would be a GREAT feature, otherwise.. nah. how many people do you KNOW have easy access to the backside of their PC's,

why did they move USB/Sound connectors to the front? ;)

[ALT-F13]

charlie.
totally agree! TrueControl style panel but with on-the-fly monitoring...

[Lithan]

Originally posted by jmke
"on the back" <> "LCD"

if you turn "on the back" into 5.25" frontpanel then YES it would be a GREAT feature, otherwise.. nah. how many people do you KNOW have easy access to the backside of their PC's,

why did they move USB/Sound connectors to the front? ;)


And include software that can read from the same source as the lcd, and offers all the info of mbm5's high/low.


And why the hell do I need usb/sound ports on the front of my pc? Every digital camera I've ever seen has a cable that disconnects from the CAMERA just as easily as from the usb port. In my opinion dell said it was important and people bought that bs just because, well, people are pretty stupid.

[jmke]

It's not about Dell, take a look at 99% of all PC cases out there, Coolermaster, Antec, Lian-Li etc.. front audio & USB, why?

accessibility. you know where to "stick it" , but most don't.

[LikwidKool]

Originally posted by jmke
you know where to "stick it" , but most don't.

I would like to state for the record, I do in fact no where to "stick it":smileysex :banana: :p:

BTW if I get a chance to get one of these, I will be able to put it up against an FSP530 and a TTGI 520. Should be interesting. I for one though see the OCZ putting up one helluva fight. I have yet to really see one of their products lose bad to anything it goes up against!

[shafty]

Well i am about to buy a PSU it was going to be a fortron 530 or the pc power and cooling 510. but after seeing this and the great products they make, i guess i'll await some reviews. hopefully it comes pre-sleved that would be a great plus.

[STEvil]

Originally posted by Spec3
Looks like this

Might as well do all the cables like that. If EMI/RFI/etc is going to affect voltage and get past filtering capacitors its going to be enough that the rest of the cables will pick it up and pass it down.

I would be more concerned about how much AC voltage is still present comming down the PSU rails myself...


Originally posted by charlie
one feature I would LOVE to see on a PSU...

on the back, add a LCD (or LED) display and a 3 way switch, live voltage readout 3.3v, 5v, 12v........ probably $3 in parts....would be a GREAT feature.

C

How about a cable going from a plug on the PSU to a 5 1/4 bay readout with optional temp sensors and stuff? :slobber:

I've been thinking of building one myself, but I have WAY too many other projects going.. its like a forest of abused hardware around me right now ;)

[Lithan]

Originally posted by STEvil
I would be more concerned about how much AC voltage is still present comming down the PSU rails myself...


He said he's asking project manager about that.


So, is topower manufacturing these? Or are they just using the same housing? If the latter, who is in fact manufacturing these? 99% of how good this psu will be is going to be who manufactures it, not to whose desired specs it's manufactured. Power supplies have their quirks like that. ;)

[STEvil]

On a side note, iirc FSP psu's have two 12v rails.. which means 2x16A = 32A...

[Lithan]

Some fsps do. The 530 everyone buys does not. I think it's called fsp-530GN or something similar.

[Slickthellama]

Originally posted by charlie
one feature I would LOVE to see on a PSU...

on the back, add a LCD (or LED) display and a 3 way switch, live voltage readout 3.3v, 5v, 12v........ probably $3 in parts....would be a GREAT feature.

C

just so long as they dont take lessons from nVentiv on how to read the lines:stick: