Who wants to cure disease for team 36362?

[GAM]

:welcome: to the fold, new folders!



On another note, I've got 3 new WU's - project 2614 (Gromacs33 - 287pts). For some reason, even after multiple 'Download New Projects' on FahMon, their details are 'N/A' in FahMon. Anyone know any reason why it is taking so long to update/retrieve the project details?

[jimwah]

Always great to see new faces @ XS folding team :up: A warm welcome to Exal, phcjpp & Kaze06 :D

[Leeghoofd]

K folding for you guys now ...

greetz from Belgium

[SparkyJJO]

:welcome:

[GAM]

:welcome:

[sc00p]

Yes! :welcome: New Folders :toast:

Anyone know any reason why it is taking so long to update/retrieve the project details?I know beta (like p2610 which I've been folding recently) projects aren't displayed at project summary... but p2614 still is at psummary already :confused:
What if one could manually set the details to the fahmon, if updating isn't working between fahmon and stanford servers :cool:

[GAM]

I'm on my second one now and still no details in FahMon :mad:

A strange quirk too; instead of just specifying the percentage complete as '(XX)' for this project it specifies '(XX percent)'.

I know it's 287pts and that it's NOT a 'nice' WU.

[Kaze06]

I've been on a 250,000 step WU for a day and a half now. 75%...should be done soon. Major points ftw.

[Druggedpolak]

:woot: Just started folding today for the first time! :welcome:
Im on my x2 4000+ at 2.7 running on both cores and my 1800xt.
Don't know what most of you are talking about and need to learn this lingo lol
I'll try to get a few more pcs running it and get a couple of friends. I tried registering for wcg but the registration is down.
:)

[SparkyJJO]

:welcome: druggedpolak :)

[GAM]

@DruggedPolak, :welcome:

...and don't worry about WCG, get yourself established folding for XS and look into that down the track :hehe: ;)

[bronx_klokr]

i just put my ps3 to fold for team xs

[SparkyJJO]

sweet, glad to have you bronx :toast:

[Datalogger]

I'm looking into purchasing some cheap used P4 systems from Ebay to set up for Folding. Is processor speed the most important thing to look at? Or should I consider type of P4 (HT or not) and Ram size. Anything else I should consider?

Thanks!

[SparkyJJO]

HT doesn't make a lot of difference, heard that you can put two CPU clients on but I don't know how well it performs.

If you can get your hands on C2D or AMD systems that would be better for power consumption and heat output.

[jimwah]

Hey Datalogger, running 2x client on P4's with HT was alleged to increase output by 20%, compared to just running 1 client. Athough Stanford always prefer a quicker turnover of units, and prefer you to run 1 client on HT boxes; and with P4's just go for high Mhz & big cache, check the specs of chips on the Intel sSpec Finder :) RAM size is not too crucial on the vanilla client, most of my rigs have had 512mb but I wouldn't expect any problems running with 256mb to be honest.

Personally I'd look at a budget AMD x2 or even C2D system, in place of a few P4's, however if you are hell bent on getting older kit off ebay, I'd go for Semprons or A64's, for that gen of chips AMD have better power/performance imo. Having run a few benchmarks in the past, my Sempron 1.8Ghz/256k(iirc) is a better cruncher than my P4 2.66/512k. Hope that helps man :up:

[turtletrax]

Just picked up a PS3 and just needed to get the XS team number, look forward to putting one of my machines to a GOOD use ;) :p:

[Datalogger]

Hey Datalogger, running 2x client on P4's with HT was alleged to increase output by 20%, compared to just running 1 client. Athough Stanford always prefer a quicker turnover of units, and prefer you to run 1 client on HT boxes; and with P4's just go for high Mhz & big cache, check the specs of chips on the Intel sSpec Finder :) RAM size is not too crucial on the vanilla client, most of my rigs have had 512mb but I wouldn't expect any problems running with 256mb to be honest.

Personally I'd look at a budget AMD x2 or even C2D system, in place of a few P4's, however if you are hell bent on getting older kit off ebay, I'd go for Semprons or A64's, for that gen of chips AMD have better power/performance imo. Having run a few benchmarks in the past, my Sempron 1.8Ghz/256k(iirc) is a better cruncher than my P4 2.66/512k. Hope that helps man :up:

That is really great info, thanks!

[oublie]

Just picked up a PS3 and just needed to get the XS team number, look forward to putting one of my machines to a GOOD use ;) :p:

good stuff turtle that should get you about 800ppd on average

[mawsoccer]

I got 20 iMac Core 2 Duo's running wit my name and Team XS! I managed to snag the 8th position in only a few months.

P.S. Where do you get those siggy folding things?

[SparkyJJO]

Hey mawsoccer, glad to see you pop in here finally! :D Very nice output you've got!

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/sigs/sigimage.php?un=mawsoccer&t=36362

Put that with the IMG tags around it and you get this :)
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/sigs/sigimage.php?un=mawsoccer&t=36362

:toast:

[sc00p]

Welcome mawsoccer... currently the top producer of our team :toast: :welcome:

BTW: Very nice nick that Druggedpolak has :D

[mawsoccer]

Haha, I should have those and possibly 12 more at my high school for two more years. (I graduate in 2009) I might also be able to get around 20 iMacs for folding at my old elementary school!

This is mainly a PC forum, but I must say, DAMN those iMacs coupled with an SMP client can really do some massive folding!

[jimwah]

Great work mawsoccer; that some serious SMP thrashing there :D :up:

[BCHurricane89]

Hello, I signed up on the website a while ago, and read about folding, and how it can help cure disease. I didnt think much of it, until recently I was diagnosed with a rare form of heart disease, which has no cure at the moment. I dont know if this folding can help find a cure for that, but maybe it can find cure's for other needy children. I have an AMD 3000+ Venice, and a 6600GT graphics card, and would like to know mor einformation about folding, and how I can get into this whole folding thing. Thanks, and let me know if you need more info, or how to get started on this.:)

[sc00p]

Hello... and welcome to the folding, to team.
Yes, we cannot be sure if f@h finds a cure to your disease soon enough... which I'm sorry to hear you got this. But anything (=any cpu cycles) helps we tend to say which I actually really think is true. If everybody would fold with their cpus the data output would be huge.

http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html <- there you can download application and on jimwah's sig has couple of cool links move onto this. I suggest you setup a service install with normal 5.04 ("no nonsense") -client.

Maybe you are thinking sometimes: What are we actually work on? (http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic14500.html) (<-DanEnsign's post #3)

:wtf:

[SparkyJJO]

:welcome: BCHurricane89. Sorry to hear about your heart disease :( Hopefully a cure is found soon, either through folding@home or through some other channel.

For information, check out http://folding.stanford.edu
For setup, in my sig is a link to how to get the CPU client running (which is the client you'd want to run).

[firefox > IE]

I would like to start folding for this team, however, I ws previously folding for Overclock.net, and I am using teh WIndows console version of F@H. How do I change settings?

[SparkyJJO]

Hi firefox > IE :welcome:
I agree with your username :D

Right click on My Computer, select Manage. Go to Services and Applications, select services, and find FAH@C:etc.etc. in the list, select it, then hit Stop the service. Leave this window open, and put in "C:\FAH\FAH504-Console.exe" -configonly in the run command. Of course if you have FAH located someplace else than C:\FAH then put the right location in. Use the same settings you have been, except put in 36362 for the team number. Once you do that, go back to the computer management window and hit Start this service and from here on out you'll be crunching for XS :)

Hope this is what you needed and is helpful :toast:

[Aivas47a]

Hello, I signed up on the website a while ago, and read about folding, and how it can help cure disease. I didnt think much of it, until recently I was diagnosed with a rare form of heart disease, which has no cure at the moment. I dont know if this folding can help find a cure for that, but maybe it can find cure's for other needy children.

I think that's the right attitude. I have a young son with type 1 diabetes and there's no cure for that yet, they're not even sure of the cause (this is a different disease than the more common type 2 condition which can be related to diet). I just found out about folding. The Stanford project is not specifically working on diabetes but if it helps any kid, it's worth it. Plus, I figure the more science learns about the way the body works, the better the outlook for all diseases. Take care of yourself man!

[The[R]eaper]

just joined up. or do i have to run it by you guys first?
thx

[SparkyJJO]

No need to clear it with any of us, we never turn anyone away :) We've had some who joined and crunched for quite a while before we even heard a peep out of them.

[SparkyJJO]

I see a new name in our top 20 producers list, "wk127.0.0.1" come on out and say hi :welcome: :wtf:

[sergiu]

Hi! I have an old P4 computer and I would like to use it for folding. The sistem is stable, but isn't passing the prime torture test (round error). Can I fold without problems or my results will be with errors?

[SparkyJJO]

Hmm if it isn't prime stable, it might not work too well to fold on. Long-term folding tends to be more intensive over the long run than prime is. Is it overclocked at all? RAM check out OK? I would try and get it prime stable before folding myself.

[sergiu]

It is at default setting but undervolted at 1.125V because it is used in a silent pc. It passes prime test only if it is overvolted from 1.525 to 1.5875 or 1.6. Except prime, sistem is 100% stable (no reboots for days, even with s&m). I'm worring for folding accuracy not for sistem stability.

[SparkyJJO]

Well yes, that's what I meant, if the system isn't fully prime stable (no errors) it probably will have inaccuracies in the folding. What you could do is try it, monitoring it closely. If it causes an EUE (Early_Unit_End) then you'll need to stabilize it.

[sergiu]

I am running my system for almost 5 days and FAH client didn't gave any errors (there are no errors reported in log file). Should I declare it stable for this kind of work?

[SparkyJJO]

Sure thing, keep going! :up:

[Leeghoofd]

I am running my system for almost 5 days and FAH client didn't gave any errors (there are no errors reported in log file). Should I declare it stable for this kind of work?

Sure mate keep it going !!! I dropped abbit from 100% CPU usage to 90% to put a bit less stress on all components and the electricity bill :p

[cnumartyr]

Just installed it on the new computer and got it running. Installing it on the old one now as well.

Edit: Old one has been folding for a while.. just added it to the team along with the new one.

[Leeghoofd]

Welcome to the club !!

[TheGoat Eater]

new guy sounding off - 2 C2D systems going so far (4GHz & 3.2GHz) should I get ATI cards just for the GPU utilized F@H ability?

Trying to make a sig at liquid ninjas but I am having trouble - can someone halep me to make a graphic sig (image cropped from a XS wallpaper that someone posted -> http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6826/xspaper1ii2.jpg

sorry but I just need a bit o' help here as I am new to this and if I stepped on toes just tell me and I will remove the image.

[SparkyJJO]

new guy sounding off - 2 C2D systems going so far (4GHz & 3.2GHz) should I get ATI cards just for the GPU utilized F@H ability?

Trying to make a sig at liquid ninjas but I am having trouble - can someone halep me to make a graphic sig (image cropped from a XS wallpaper that someone posted -> http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6826/xspaper1ii2.jpg

sorry but I just need a bit o' help here as I am new to this and if I stepped on toes just tell me and I will remove the image.

:welcome:

If you want maximum pointage go for two SMP clients, one on each PC. Or if you want maximum variety, go for 1 SMP client on one PC, an X1950 series card for the second PC to run the GPU client on, and one standard CPU client on the other CPU core of that second PC (the GPU client uses one CPU core to monitor and keep track of stuff). Up to you, and I would be happy to help you with any setup questions you may have :)

AFAIK you aren't stepping on any toes maxing your own sig. Are you trying to put your system specs in it or the F@H stats? If the system specs, I can help you with that. For F@H stats, I don't know how to make those appear on a custom background image, maybe someone else does.

[sc00p]

Welcome to the team The Goat Eater... I'm afraid there's no easy way to extract that image to be a background for the stats.
I looked Liquid Ninjas option for a sig once (long time ago) and eventually went with teh original one: EOC that is ;)

And I would guess it's more convenient to fold only SMP clients without GPU client on top of that. Not sure about it... DAK1640 should be able to illuminate this if you're still interested...

Of course: :welcome: on board sergiu & cnumartyr too :cheers:

[sc00p]

Just find out about this: http://www.dynasig.net/howitworks.php ... haven't tried it yet (obviously), but it seems this ain't either have an option to use fully customized background image :(

[(+[ ]:)]

i have already installed folding. and i am running it know perfectly but how do i join team 36362.

[Don_Dan]

Have you already gone through the set-up where you could enter your name? There should be an option for a team number.

[SparkyJJO]

(+[]:), (that is a unique username :D) Are you running the text console client or a GUI client? For the console client, run the .exe with a -configonly flag on it and in there it asks what team number to use. For the GUI, um... heh I haven't used it for so long I forget how exactly :yawn: it is in the settings somewhere...

[LemniaAlsa]

Just wanted to let you guys know...I'm folding for you guys :]

I have a dual core...and I was reading that in order to take advantage of both cores, I have to run the program twice. I have F@H installed in two different directories but I still can't get two clients to run at the same time. Any suggestions?

[Stijndp]

Just wanted to let you guys know...I'm folding for you guys :]

I have a dual core...and I was reading that in order to take advantage of both cores, I have to run the program twice. I have F@H installed in two different directories but I still can't get two clients to run at the same time. Any suggestions?

Welcome to the team LemniaAlsa:cool:

You are probably trying that with the GUI client?
You'll have to install it as a service when you want to run multiple instances. This guide (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1875632&postcount=2) will get you running in no time :)
You could also install the SMP client so you can check that one out too.

[Ugly n Grey]

Welcome Stijndp has definitely pointed you in the right direction, we're very glad to have you! :welcome:

[LemniaAlsa]

Welcome to the team LemniaAlsa:cool:

You are probably trying that with the GUI client?
You'll have to install it as a service when you want to run multiple instances. This guide (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1875632&postcount=2) will get you running in no time :)
You could also install the SMP client so you can check that one out too.

Thanks~ Do I install both instances as services, or one GUI client and one console client?

Welcome Stijndp has definitely pointed you in the right direction, we're very glad to have you!

Thanks :D :D

[LemniaAlsa]

Welcome to the team LemniaAlsa:cool:

You are probably trying that with the GUI client?
You'll have to install it as a service when you want to run multiple instances. This guide (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1875632&postcount=2) will get you running in no time :)
You could also install the SMP client so you can check that one out too.

Thanks~ Do I install both instances as services, or one GUI client and one console client?

Welcome Stijndp has definitely pointed you in the right direction, we're very glad to have you!

Thanks :D :D


EDIT: Nevermind I got it. I was wondering which one is more efficient, running two consoles or a single SMP.

[twiggy]

SMP.

BTW, welcome to the team!

[LemniaAlsa]

SMP.

BTW, welcome to the team!

I've installed the SMP client and have it running...but the last line reads "Completed 0 out of 500000 steps <0 percent>" and it's been like that for 40 minutes :shakes:

If I <ctrl+c> then restart it, the number goes to 1351 out of 500000. Is the log just not updating or what?

And how do I quit without messing anything up. Total newby...sorry:p:

Thanks

[SparkyJJO]

What CPU you running the SMP client on? Do you have any other DC project running?

[Ugly n Grey]

describe your computer for us and recall it takes up to 40 minutes a frame on slower dual cores...

[LemniaAlsa]

describe your computer for us and recall it takes up to 40 minutes a frame on slower dual cores...

Athlon X2 Be2300 1.8 ghz, 6600GT, 2gb pc6400

I just realized it's not fast enough for smp :ROTF: ......:(

And I can't get two console versions to run at start up, I can only find the -svcstart in the registry for the first console, the second one won't appear even though I have it installed and configured. I'm currently just using one GUI client until I get the two consoles or smp running properly.

Any suggestions on how I can get them running properly? :confused:

[Ugly n Grey]

Yep it's fast enough for SMP, it will beat the deadlines by about a day no problem

[LemniaAlsa]

So it is fast enough?

Should I just run the smp even though the log isn't updating? It's yellow on fahmon...so that makes the think that it isn't working :shrug:


EDIT: It got to 1%...so there is progress :D

Thanks for the help guys~

[Ugly n Grey]

It will stay yellow until it gets two sections done and then make a calculation of how long it will take to finish. Ignore that estimate altogether until it has two or three complete WU's to average together... expect your PC to take about 52 hrs per WU around 800 points per day production.

[LemniaAlsa]

It will stay yellow until it gets two sections done and then make a calculation of how long it will take to finish. Ignore that estimate altogether until it has two or three complete WU's to average together... expect your PC to take about 52 hrs per WU around 800 points per day production.


Yay~ It's green now :]

If I pause and quite F@H to restart, would it continue where it left off?

And can I run it on two different machines using the same user name?

[Ugly n Grey]

Yay~ It's green now :]

If I pause and quite F@H to restart, would it continue where it left off?

And can I run it on two different machines using the same user name?

It will continue from the last checkpoint when you restart if you have the flags set the way the SMP as a service guide dictates then checkpoints are set every 15 minutes by default (though I set mine at three).

And Yes! use exactly the same user name on a different machine (and team name of course) :wtf:

[LemniaAlsa]

It will continue from the last checkpoint when you restart if you have the flags set the way the SMP as a service guide dictates then checkpoints are set every 15 minutes by default (though I set mine at three).

And Yes! use exactly the same user name on a different machine (and team name of course) :wtf:

Sweet, my high school yearbook room has 16 Core2Extreme computers...and 3 more on the way, I'll see if I can get the instructor to let me use them [[high possibility of a yes...he likes me :up: ]]

And I was just curious...what's stopping people from stealing someone else's user name? I mean...couldn't I just use your name in the configuration menu and pretend to be you and claim that your work was mine?

[Ugly n Grey]

well, if you put in my user name, the points would appear in my stats :lol:

There's nothing to steal, it's all for the good of the science and with that many machines, maybe you could form a small team of your own at your school?

[road-runner]

I usually run WCG but I swapped some rigs over to help out for a few days...

[LemniaAlsa]

Nah, I'm going to stay with this team so I can help contribute something back. I've learned so much from these forums...I've been lurking for a very long time and just started posting recently :p: . I feel like I owe it you guys...well not so much owe...but rather I want to contribute to something that has helped me learn so much:up:

[Ugly n Grey]

Hey Road-Runner thanks for helping us out, we're really barging down the top of the stats right now so the help is most appreciated :welcome: and thanks!

Lemnia: well we're glad you joined, so stick around and have some fun .... Futuremark is our upcoming friendly rival

[Lurker246]

Nah, I'm going to stay with this team so I can help contribute something back. I've learned so much from these forums...I've been lurking for a very long time and just started posting recently :p: . I feel like I owe it you guys...well not so much owe...but rather I want to contribute to something that has helped me learn so much:up:

Welcome to the team, just joined up last month myself for the exact same reasons as you.

So let's get crunching and take Futuremark down a peg or two!

[road-runner]

Hey Road-Runner thanks for helping us out, we're really barging down the top of the stats right now so the help is most appreciated :welcome: and thanks!


I see that, I am glad to help push the team through a few ranks....

[LemniaAlsa]

I have two dual core boxes folding, and a quad core will follow pretty soon. The q6600 box has an 8800 g80 so should I use F@H SMP or GPU?

You guys at XS are so friendly :D I just thought I should restate a probably known fact :up:

[Ugly n Grey]

I see that, I am glad to help push the team through a few ranks....

Most excellent. Everytime I see your Av the Road Runner theme song plays in my brain... arghhhhhh. Like it though :)

I have two dual core boxes folding, and a quad core will follow pretty soon. The q6600 box has an 8800 g80 so should I use F@H SMP or GPU?

You guys at XS are so friendly :D I just thought I should restate a probably known fact :up:

Folding @GPU is closer for new ATI cards than for NVIDIA at the moment. They are working on it, but there are only so many programming cycles. The Stanford forums (http://foldingforum.org/) are pretty good for giving us updates, you can check there for the most recent news.

:toast:
UnG

[sc00p]

I have two dual core boxes folding, and a quad core will follow pretty soon. The q6600 box has an 8800 g80 so should I use F@H SMP or GPU?Well... I've now two more or less dedicated folders with G80 and G92, but not planning to fold with those as smp-client is mighty powerfull and gpu-client hogs one core.


You guys at XS are so friendly :D I just thought I should restate a probably known fact :up:Really nice thing to say... actually first one I see posted here :cool: :welcome:

[ReverendMaynard]

I hope you guys don't mind, since I haven't been a member here that long, but I put the team number in on my PS3 last night. My wife and I both have a long family history of cancer, and would like to contribute to a great cause.

[SparkyJJO]

:welcome: Time being a registered user does not matter! Glad to have you with us :up:

[angra]

a) Of course we don't mind! Welcome to the team and get yourself a stats sig :).

b) my complements on your username and avatar.

[Ugly n Grey]

I hope you guys don't mind, since I haven't been a member here that long, but I put the team number in on my PS3 last night. My wife and I both have a long family history of cancer, and would like to contribute to a great cause.

Thanks for joining us, we appreciate the contribution to the cause overall and to out little team in particular. :welcome:

[ReverendMaynard]

:welcome: Time being a registered user does not matter! Glad to have you with us :up:

tech sites tend to be territorial, so I didn't want to step on any toes :)

a) Of course we don't mind! Welcome to the team and get yourself a stats sig :).

b) my complements on your username and avatar.

Anyone who knows of TOOL is cool by me :up:
I'll get an avatar up there asap.

Thanks for joining us, we appreciate the contribution to the cause overall and to out little team in particular. :welcome:

Your appreciation is much appreciated :yepp: Hopefully I can help XS push out FM. You guys are so nice, I'm going to add my oc gaming rig to the fold. It spends allot of time idle so it should pump out some decent numbers.

[SparkyJJO]

tech sites tend to be territorial, so I didn't want to step on any toes :)

No toes to step on here :)

Your appreciation is much appreciated :yepp: Hopefully I can help XS push out FM. You guys are so nice, I'm going to add my oc gaming rig to the fold. It spends allot of time idle so it should pump out some decent numbers.

An idle PC is an unhappy PC, IMO :D Time to get it crunching too :cool:

[pythagoras]

tech sites tend to be territorial, so I didn't want to step on any toes :)



Anyone who knows of TOOL is cool by me :up:
I'll get an avatar up there asap.



Your appreciation is much appreciated :yepp: Hopefully I can help XS push out FM. You guys are so nice, I'm going to add my oc gaming rig to the fold. It spends allot of time idle so it should pump out some decent numbers.

No egos here my friend:yepp: What is TOOL and the reverandmaynard?

Regards

John.

[ReverendMaynard]

No egos here my friend:yepp: What is TOOL and the reverandmaynard?

Regards

John.

TOOL is one of the last great progressive rock bands of our time. They do some amazing things with music and always keep their fans thinking. The Lateralus album was built on the fibonacci sequence. Here is a great youtube video that puts the complexity of how music and numbers are one, into perspective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS7CZIJVxFY

The name comes from the hidden song call Disgustipated from the album Undertow. The singers name is Maynard James Keenan, but in the song he's preaching to a million carrots who are at the brink of a vegetable genocide lead by rabbits with poor eyesight. He refers too himself as ReverendMaynard.

[pythagoras]

TOOL is one of the last great progressive rock bands of our time. They do some amazing things with music and always keep their fans thinking. The Lateralus album was built on the fibonacci sequence. Here is a great youtube video that puts the complexity of how music and numbers are one, into perspective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS7CZIJVxFY

The name comes from the hidden song call Disgustipated from the album Undertow. The singers name is Maynard James Keenan, but in the song he's preaching to a million carrots who are at the brink of a vegetable genocide lead by rabbits with poor eyesight. He refers too himself as ReverendMaynard.

:eek: :eek: :eek: Thanks, my students will love that:up: You dont happen to play guitar hero III on that ps3 when its not folding do you?

Regards

John.

[ReverendMaynard]

:eek: :eek: :eek: Thanks, my students will love that:up: You dont happen to play guitar hero III on that ps3 when its not folding do you?

Regards

John.

haha, actually I have GH3 on the PC, the PS3 is stictly for BR and Folding.

On topic, I am having trouble with F@H on my pc. I just downloaded the lastest version, and it doesn't seem to be progressing at all.

I'm using Vista 32, and the rig in the sig. If anyone could help me out I'd appreciate it.

[pythagoras]

haha, actually I have GH3 on the PC, the PS3 is stictly for BR and Folding.

On topic, I am having trouble with F@H on my pc. I just downloaded the lastest version, and it doesn't seem to be progressing at all.

I'm using Vista 32, and the rig in the sig. If anyone could help me out I'd appreciate it.

Post a cop of the log file and I'll take a look, what client are you using? SMP?

Regards

John.

Edit: just BR or do you have a hd dvd machine too? OT is mandatory here ;)

[SparkyJJO]

Which version is it exactly? If it is the new V6 beta, well, I have no experience with that but I've heard it has issues.

The one I'd recommend is the Windows 2000/XP/Vista SMP client console version 5.91 beta6 (about halfway down the page). You'll need a password on the PC.

Here is a good guide to making the SMP client run as a service, so you don't have the window button on your taskbar all the time:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=174390

I don't use it since the network here at school can be unstable enough I want to keep track of what it is doing.

[ReverendMaynard]

Edit: just BR or do you have a hd dvd machine too? OT is mandatory here ;)

no HD-DVD. I'm working for a company that is putting a huge nail in the coffin for HD-DVD so I wasn't about to invest in another "Beta" player lol. Remember those? ;)

Which version is it exactly? If it is the new V6 beta, well, I have no experience with that but I've heard it has issues.

The one I'd recommend is the Windows 2000/XP/Vista SMP client console version 5.91 beta6 (about halfway down the page). You'll need a password on the PC.

Here is a good guide to making the SMP client run as a service, so you don't have the window button on your taskbar all the time:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=174390

I don't use it since the network here at school can be unstable enough I want to keep track of what it is doing.

Nice, that worked out perfectly. Now, what core usage setting would you suggest...honestly? I will not run at 100% so don't even try it lol. Would 25% be alright for a heavily overclocked (in my mind at least)quad core?

[SparkyJJO]

25% won't be very fast. Not sure if it would make the time requirements.

I'd personally do 100%, I run it like that on my main PC and don't even notice any slowdowns at all. But if you don't want to that's perfectly fine, up to you. I'd start at like 75% and see how that goes for you then tweak it from there if needed, up or down as you see fit.

[pythagoras]

no HD-DVD. I'm working for a company that is putting a huge nail in the coffin for HD-DVD so I wasn't about to invest in another "Beta" player lol. Remember those? ;)



Nice, that worked out perfectly. Now, what core usage setting would you suggest...honestly? I will not run at 100% so don't even try it lol. Would 25% be alright for a heavily overclocked (in my mind at least)quad core?

100% is fine as the program will rack back its useage to 0% when any other program requires the cpu. Just try it at 100% then run a cpu intensive program, you will notice F@H reduce to almost 0.

You work for Warner:eek:

Regards

John.

[ReverendMaynard]

100% is fine as the program will rack back its useage to 0% when any other program requires the cpu. Just try it at 100% then run a cpu intensive program, you will notice F@H reduce to almost 0.

You work for Warner:eek:

Regards

John.

cool man, I'll set it at 100% and see if it impacts my everyday usage. I'm feeding some pretty insane volts to this quad, so I'm a little weary about killing it.

I do not work for Warner lol. They made a huge impact on the format war, but the company that I work for will make a bigger, nastier one lol. That's as far as I'm going with that one lol.

[SparkyJJO]

What are you using for cooling?

[Ugly n Grey]

cool man, I'll set it at 100% and see if it impacts my everyday usage. I'm feeding some pretty insane volts to this quad, so I'm a little weary about killing it.

I do not work for Warner lol. They made a huge impact on the format war, but the company that I work for will make a bigger, nastier one lol. That's as far as I'm going with that one lol.

This program works a chip hard, if your OC isn't a 100 per cent stable, the client will fail. So it's a pretty good stest of 24/7 stability as well. Just keep an eye on your temps etc... setting the process lower won't really affect your temp much, either run it at 100 or leave it off is generally my thought as there sems to be no real savings in power consumption or temps in setting lower.

And hail to a fellow Canuck , I don't care about formats (at all) DVD is fine with me lol.... tbh, all this DRM crap gets me down and I won't pay what they're asking for the drives or media. They can all kiss my Ugly Butt. :ROTF:

[dude_500]

How do I use more than 1 core?

[angra]

The name comes from the hidden song call Disgustipated from the album Undertow. The singers name is Maynard James Keenan, but in the song he's preaching to a million carrots who are at the brink of a vegetable genocide lead by rabbits with poor eyesight. He refers too himself as ReverendMaynard.

Let the rabbits wear glasses!

[heater918]

How do I use more than 1 core?
If you use the console you download 2 clients in different directories.
Like F@H 1 and F@H 2 open them up and start folding :)

[Ugly n Grey]

How do I use more than 1 core?

Have you checked out the SMP client for multi core processors? There's a pretty good guide here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=174390

[-iceblade^]

hey guys... i wanna join :) how do i sign up???

oh, and i read something about ATI using GPUs to do this as well... so i'm slightly confused... any way to clear out the dust?

[Ugly n Grey]

hey guys... i wanna join :) how do i sign up???

oh, and i read something about ATI using GPUs to do this as well... so i'm slightly confused... any way to clear out the dust?

Well, welcome to the team and tell us a bit about your system and what your up to so we can recommend the best configuration for your needs. We're damn glad to have new members :up:

As to the GPU folding it's all about the x1800 /x1900's right now but Stanford is working on a client for the later series of the ATI cards it should release soon (uhmm not sure when).
:welcome:

Cheers

[-iceblade^]

yay :P.

ehm, the rig is in my sig

and i mostly use it for gaming and web browsing ATM... BUT, i want to OC it sometime in the next week, so i don't know if that wlll mess with anything?

[Ugly n Grey]

Well, my honest advice would be to overclock your rig and get it rock solid stable then you can use the folding client. The client is very tough on a computer and will throw errors if there is any stability. If we can give you a hand with your OC we'd be glad to help, but your best bet is to post in the corresponding Intel section for assistance.

[-iceblade^]

cool. Will do ^^

[SparkyJJO]

What Ugly said is correct. Trying to fold while overclocking just can mess things up for all involved - been there, done that, results aren't pretty :(

[cirons]

Hello, been hanging around the forums but never posted anything. Saw this folding team and started today, hope my system can help out.

[SparkyJJO]

:welcome: Sure you can help :up:

[Ugly n Grey]

Welcome to the team cirons, we're very glad to have you!, what brings you in to our little nook here?

And welcome to XS :welcome:

[cirons]

Hi UnG, well i usually hang out in the amd forums (sad amd fanboy) or the vid card section but kept seeing the folding statistics in peoples sigs. I was led to investigate and thought it was a good idea to lend my spare cpu cycles.

[angra]

Cirons,

Welcome to the team. ahh, a story close to many hearts around here, I'd guess. Your path to our group is like many, I'd say. We're an odd bunch but I hope you'll hang around and chat with us. We have some eclectic interests and perspectives on computing (and other stuff, too) here.

[sc00p]

Welcome to all new folders equally :welcome:

And do not take me too seriously... I've often humor that I don't understand myself either :shakes:

[SparkyJJO]

Hi UnG, well i usually hang out in the amd forums (sad amd fanboy) or the vid card section but kept seeing the folding statistics in peoples sigs. I was led to investigate and thought it was a good idea to lend my spare cpu cycles.

Hey same here :D Can't help it, love the underdog, don't like intel much, so... :shrug:

Besides, OCing my new phenom (when I have time to put it together :rolleyes:) should be much more interesting than a Q6600 - more settings and tinkering to fiddle with :D

[cirons]

Thanks for the welcome, I have a/some quick question(s). I'm using an amd cpu and i followed the window setup guide for services and now have two services running with the added arguments "-local -advmethods -forceasm -verbosity 9" should i change the -forceasm to -forceSSE? How much of an improvement would i see? And does stopping the folding to change values like this effect the current projects that are having work done on them? I also downloaded fahmon to watch the services and both of them are in the green.

Sorry for the noob questions, some of these I have seen touched on but the -forceasm/-forceSSE people that asked about changing usually gave ?amber? as what fahmon was reporting when using -forceasm on their amd processor.

[SparkyJJO]

I tried the forcesse thing and I didn't notice a thing so I stick with forceasm

You can change the flags for the services while they are running but they won't take effect until after you restart the services as it only reads those flags at startup.

[cirons]

Hey same here :D Can't help it, love the underdog, don't like intel much, so... :shrug:

Besides, OCing my new phenom (when I have time to put it together :rolleyes:) should be much more interesting than a Q6600 - more settings and tinkering to fiddle with :D

Do you have your phenom folding as well? And if so how does it do on PPD? I'm thinking about building a dedicated machine, and haven't seen very many phenom folders. Don't know if i should pick up a phenom 2.2ghz or another windsor 3.2.

[SparkyJJO]

Do you have your phenom folding as well? And if so how does it do on PPD? I'm thinking about building a dedicated machine, and haven't seen very many phenom folders. Don't know if i should pick up a phenom 2.2ghz or another windsor 3.2.

Yes it is folding right now. Currently at stock it is running about 1800PPD. That will change soon hopefully when I have time from work and class to start overclocking it. Unfortunately my HR-05 doesn't fit the northbridge on my board (hole spacing is too short for the bracket) so I'll have to come up with something to keep the chipset cool.

[Pyroe_Inc]

Up and running... :)

[sc00p]

Up and running... :)
:welcome: to the team, glad to have here :up:

[Pyroe_Inc]

Thanks. Running the graphical client though. The SMP, oddly enough, wouldnt save work. have to look into that later...

Edit: SMP up and running

[mike8913]

just don't try to run both at the same time

[Pyroe_Inc]

ok...

[SparkyJJO]

SMP wouldn't save work? Interesting.... Was it dumping work units or restarting them every time the client restarted?

and :welcome:

[Pyroe_Inc]

actually, i didnt notice if it was the same wu.
but when closed after any number of steps(well, those i tried),
it would simply start from zero... :shrug:
and thanks..

[WesM63]

I forgot, my PS3 has been folding for a short while. I'll keep it on as much as possible.

[SparkyJJO]

I forgot, my PS3 has been folding for a short while. I'll keep it on as much as possible.

Great glad to hear that wes :) Sorry I didn't notice in the stats, I really should pay more attention. I wonder how many others I've missed :(

[conorgriffin]

Hi guys, I'm new to the forum and new to folding. I'm running it on my Core2Duo and my PS3, I'm gonna join the team. :up:

[[XC] 4X4N]

:welcome: Always glad to have new members, and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions.

[coo-coo-clocker]

AYE! Welcome to all our newest crunchers!!

It's great to have you helping out on the project and supporting Team [XS]!

[sc00p]

Welcome to the team conorgriffin :)
Check out our stickies for the help and of course always can ask if you have anything bugging. :welcome:

[Voo Doo]

Probably going to join the team. OK if it is only a 2.4ghz P4(oc from 2ghz) only running at nights.

Just download, install the client I assume and set it for team 36363? Is it ok under 32bit XP?

[sc00p]

Probably going to join the team. OK if it is only a 2.4ghz P4(oc from 2ghz) only running at nights.

Just download, install the client I assume and set it for team 36363? Is it ok under 32bit XP?
You're probably joining our team... put team #36362 though, it works better ;)
:welcome: :up:

[xt0m]

Might be a silly question, but ya think I can set ma ps3 to #36362? :rolleyes:

[Voo Doo]

Of course you can set your PS3 to help us. Every little bit counts.

[xt0m]

Done :D

[coo-coo-clocker]

:welcome:
Great to have ya onboard, and thanks!

[xt0m]

my pleasure m8 ;)

[SparkyJJO]

:welcome:

[xt0m]

Mhh, finished my first ps3 WU last nite but still not popped up on the 36362 list yet? :rolleyes:

[sc00p]

Mhh, finished my first ps3 WU last nite but still not popped up on the 36362 list yet? :rolleyes:
:welcome: on board

EDIT: takes some time apparently to update stats nowadays...

[SocketMan]

:welcome: on board

EDIT: takes some time apparently to update stats nowadays...

Took me 2 weeks to clime up to 100,:p: :)

[xt0m]

:welcome: on board

EDIT: takes some time apparently to update stats nowadays...

oh ok :) and thx :D

[G0ldBr1ck]

Nm.

[Lowrez]

Count me in on this. I wanna cure some diseases or something.

[cabbspapp]

I have a PS3, E6400@stock, and an E8400@4 Ghz running SMP for XS now.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Lowrez and cabbspapp, both off you very welcome to the team :welcome:

If you have any questions just ask, we're all here to help.

Happy folding :up: :wtf: :up:

[cabbspapp]

Thanks! Just added a 939 3500+ too.

[Kingcarcas]

Get some GPUs in those suckers! :welcome:
http://justinsomnia.org/images/buffalo-wings-from-duffs.jpg
On the house

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Mhm can I have some to...

I need something in my stomach right now!

[gallardo]

Just joined this morning. It's been like 12 hours since the 3850 512MB (I understand that counts?) started folding.

I'm curious.... how can I compare to see if it's running as fast as it should be? I did the visualization thing and it reported 75 iterations per second. Is that good? Is that bad?
I saw this morning (6h after I started) that it was at 43% for the first one.... 4300 / 10000. Is that good? Cause I kinda get the feeling that it's not soo good.

Oh, well... guess I'll poke around here for a bit and see what other info I can find.

[SparkyJJO]

Wish I could help you on that but I don't know unfortunately. I have an X1950XT so no GPU2 client here. But, I can still say :welcome: :D

[coo-coo-clocker]

Welcome, and thanks for folding, and particularly for choosing our team!!

A couple of things you can do to monitor progress and performance.

One is get FahMon (http://fahmon.net/) - its a nice tool, and very intuitive to use. Use Cntl-B to examine benchmarks.

Another is to right click on the F@H tray icon, then status/log file. This will show you an audit file of the client's activity, all nice and timestamped. From that, you can determine speed of each frame, the project numbers, etc.

Armed with that, you can ask around here and someone with the same/similar rig can give you some comparison performance numbers. I can tell you with my NV 8800GTX running stock speeds I'm getting about 1:37 per frame on project 5004 for 4266ppd.

Again, welcome to the team and :wtf:

[gallardo]

Thanks for the welcome! :D

Ok. I'll install FahMon when I get back home. Where can I see how many ppds I'm getting? Maybe this can finally push me over board to spend a little more money and get a 4850 or 4870. But I have to wait for the price to go down a little and I have to find one with some good cooling. But one of those suckers should fold just nicely. :D


EDIT: @home.

FahMon doesn't work. It doesn't read any work in progress...

Here's the log file. Maybe someone can tell me how I'm doing and maybe tell me how to do the calculations myself?

[gallardo]

So, what? Nobody knows how to see how many PPDs I'm doing on a GPU2 client?

[MikeB12]

So, what? Nobody knows how to see how many PPDs I'm doing on a GPU2 client?

wu 4731 = (193 points) = (100 frames)
89 sec per frame * 100 frames = 8900 sec per wu
24 hr per day * 60 min per hr * 60 sec per min = 86400 sec per day
86400 sec per day / 8900 sec per wu = 9.7078 wu's per day
193 point wu * 9.7078 wu's per day = 1873.61ppd



fahmon needs to be pointed to the folder which holds the log file. it's in your profile, not the install folder. then it should read it.

but if you need to do a manual calc, use the simple formula above as an example. just input your new wu value and new frame times..

[SparkyJJO]

In fahmon did you add the client? Right click on the empty white box on the left side and add new client, put in the name, and point it to where the GPU2 client is installed.
*EDIT* mike beat me. Oh you don't point it to the install folder? OK shows you what I know, all the others I've always pointed to the install folder :shrug: ignore me :hitself:

[MikeB12]

yeah gpu2 is different.. it confused me too when I tried it on my 2900 a couple months ago.. it's in the profile in apps I believe, which is hidden, so you have to show hidden folders if it's not already chesked.

[gallardo]

Wait, what? I'm doing 89 seconds per frame while coo-coo-clocker is doing 97 and he gets 4k ppds while I'm getting 1800? How does that work?

Oh, and... how is a 3850 faster than an 8800GTX? Bad drivers for nVidia or what?

[MikeB12]

why don't you config fahmon like we asked... then you can compare wu's and get accurate readings without asking people to dig thru your logs..


here's your other wu in that log. this is the last manual calc I'm doing for you. you know how to do this now from the formula above.
config fahmon, it's the tool you need to use for ppd calcs.....

wu 4727 = 192 points = 89sec/wu = 1863.89ppd


coo coo clocker is on a nvidia wu 5004 which is 479 points per wu. that's why he's getting more ppd with greater frame times..
your ati 4731 wu is a 193 point wu and 4727 is a 192 point wu...

so for every 5004wu he finishes he gets 479 points.
every 4731 or 4727 wu you finish, you get 192/3 points...

the 8800gtx is not slower, the wu is more intensive to process. the frames and frame times are not comparable..

[gallardo]

why don't you config fahmon like we asked... then you can compare wu's and get accurate readings without asking people to dig thru your logs...

Cause I'm at work right now. Will do so when I get home.
Didn't really ask you to calculate another wu for me... just wanted to know why I got less points for finishing faster. And now I got it. Different wu give different points and have different levels of difficulty. Got it. Thanks! :up:

[MikeB12]

cool, sorry if I sounded harsh.. I just reread my reply....
btw you can see all the wu's and points values here (look for GROGPU2)
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html

[gallardo]

Prefered and deadline days? What happens if we miss the deadline?

[MikeB12]

you shouldn't miss them with these gpu2 wu's.. they turn too quick...
if you miss the final, you dont get credit... you won't miss it though, unless you stop the client and restart it a couple days later on the same wu dl.
preferred is just what it says it is... preferred, no points loss if you miss it.

[SparkyJJO]

Sounds like mike has you covered :up:

[Sir_Loin]

you shouldn't miss them with these gpu2 wu's.. they turn too quick...
if you miss the final, you dont get credit... you won't miss it though, unless you stop the client and restart it a couple days later on the same wu dl.
preferred is just what it says it is... preferred, no points loss if you miss it.

I don't know why they even show a preferred deadline. :shakes: Until they start handing out bonus credits for high performance factors, I could care less about the preferred deadline.

[MikeB12]

yeah I asked this ques last year at fah forums, and the response was..

if the preferred deadline is passed, then the wu goes out again... so the work gets duplicated by another machine...
so if everyone turned in wu's bt preferred and final, then all wu's would get sent out twice..

but that's not our fault as users, that's fah's policy. we can't really do anything about it except try to meet the preferred deadline.

this actually doesn't really affect the gpu2's, but it did the smp's. because many slower dual cores barely made the preferred deadline. in fact I was folding on a P4 HT that barely made the final deadline for a while, which means every wu that machine did created duplicate work... but I got points for it anyway, since it met the final deadline.

[gallardo]

Ok. Got home, got FahMon working and your calculation was spot on. It shows 1852 ppds.
One more question (if I'm starting to bug you, let somebody else answer it :D ):
Is the ppd count constant or does that depend on the project as well? Are the points for the project distributed in such a way that the ppd ends up the same for the same machine on different projects?
Cause.... 1800 ppds seems a bit low to me. I was expecting something closer to 10k. :(

[SparkyJJO]

It is very dependant on the project. On the old standard CPU client I would get only like 60PPD with one project but like 300PPD on another. Current batch of units out there it is at about 160PPD.

Not to burst your bubble, but 10K PPD is on the high side for a single GPU.

[MikeB12]

I hate to bring this up because it's a sticky subject... but let's not forget there's some fah favoritism to nvidia right now. hopefully that will change and mhouston will come through on the promise to optimize ati gpu folding. but I'm not holding my breath...

that's really ashame with the history and dedication ati has shown to fah for so long.. but watcha gonna do, as they say... it is what it is...


edit: oh yeah, forgot to answer your ques... fah forum has some good ppd threads from users reporting..

ati's http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=2522

nvidia http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=3193

[Combatspace]

Now folding for team Xtreme!!! I feel part of a greater cause *sniffles*

[MaK2000]

Make sure you have your team number right. I can only find you under EOC team. Maybe you haven't got a WU in yet under 36362. Glad to have you!

[Combatspace]

Afraid not, got about 1k more frames on an amber core. Estimated to end at 3:30 pm tomorrow...

[dkjbama]

Joining up with a hd2900xt and q6600 @ 3.2

[Kingcarcas]

:welcome::wtf: Curious how much PPD the 2900s get...

[dkjbama]

Curious how much PPD the 2900s get...

PPD?

I'm not sure for 2 reasons. First I can't get the card to kick up to 3d speeds. Neither atitool, atitraytools, nor rivatuner can adjust the speeds. Second, the folding display where it gives the stats,that slows the folding process down. From like 1000-1500 Iterations per sec down to about 300-400, but its the only place you get the stats.

I just started gpu folding, been on WCG since dec of last year and GIMPS (Prime95) for about 2-3 years before that.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

PPD?

I'm not sure for 2 reasons. First I can't get the card to kick up to 3d speeds. Neither atitool, atitraytools, nor rivatuner can adjust the speeds. Second, the folding display where it gives the stats,that slows the folding process down. From like 1000-1500 Iterations per sec down to about 300-400, but its the only place you get the stats.

I just started gpu folding, been on WCG since dec of last year and GIMPS (Prime95) for about 2-3 years before that.

Use Fahmon to monitor the client, it will not cause the iterations p/s slowdown. If the card is not folding on the right clocks post your driver version, posting that and a fahlog showing client version and core revision might help to. Thanks for participating in f@h :wtf:

[Jamesrt2004]

meme just joined (y)

[Polizei]

:welcome:

:wtf: :up:

[Marvin_The_Martian]

:welcome: +1

Like the signature, happy folding :up:

[dkjbama]

Use Fahmon to monitor the client, it will not cause the iterations p/s slowdown. If the card is not folding on the right clocks post your driver version, posting that and a fahlog showing client version and core revision might help to. Thanks for participating in f@h :wtf:

At 2D speeds (503mhz) I'm getting PPD of 1194.75. Does PPD=parts per day?

I'm now using catalyst 8.6 and the speeds stay the same.

Here is the fahlog:

--- Opening Log file [July 21 00:25:04]


# Windows Console GPU Edition
Folding@Home Client Version 6.12beta8

http://folding.stanford.edu

[00:25:04] - Ask before connecting: No
[00:25:04] - User name: dkjbama (Team 36362)
[00:25:04] - User ID: 1505483C30D69AD3
[00:25:04] - Machine ID: 2
[00:25:04]
[00:25:05] Loaded queue successfully.
[00:25:05] Initialization complete
[00:25:05] + Benchmarking ...
[00:25:05]
[00:25:05] + Processing work unit
[00:25:05] Core required: FahCore_11.exe
[00:25:05] Core found.
[00:25:05] Working on queue slot 05 [July 21 00:25:05]
[00:25:05] + Working ...
[00:25:06]
[00:25:06] *------------------------------*
[00:25:06] Folding@Home GPU Core - Beta
[00:25:06] Version 1.03 (Tue Jun 3 11:31:16 PDT 2008)
[00:25:06]
[00:25:06] Compiler :
[00:25:06] Build host: amoeba
[00:25:06] Preparing to commence simulation
[00:25:06] - Looking at optimizations...
[00:25:06] - Files status OK
[00:25:06] - Expanded 41117 -> 231745 (decompressed 563.6 percent)
[00:25:06] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=41117 data_size=231745, decompressed_data_size=231745 diff=0
[00:25:06] - Digital signature verified
[00:25:06]
[00:25:06] Project: 4731 (Run 2, Clone 20, Gen 119)
[00:25:06]
[00:25:06] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[00:25:06] Entering M.D.
[00:25:12] Will resume from checkpoint file
[00:25:12] Working on 544 p4731_fip35_ww_domain
[00:25:12] Client config found, loading data.
[00:25:12] Starting GUI Server
[00:25:18] Resuming from checkpoint
[00:25:18] Verified work/wudata_05.log
[00:25:18] Verified work/wudata_05.edr
[00:25:19] Verified work/wudata_05.trr
[00:25:19] Verified work/wudata_05.xtc

[dkjbama]

Update: AMD GPU Clock Tool was able to set my 2d clocks up. Pushing 1626 PPD now. Is that good? What does a 4870 do?

[gallardo]

My 3850 512MB does 1850 ppds, so yours seems to be having some problems somehow.

[Polizei]

He's not on a 4870... he's running a 2900Pro flashed to XT. ~1600 seems ok.

[gallardo]

Yeah, but a 2900XT is ~3870 level in performance. He should be higher, right? Or is there a problem in folding between the 2 generations of vid cards?

[grimREEFER]

i think im gonna join u guys with my overclocked q6600 and gtx 260. just trying to figure out how to set the clients up atm.

[gallardo]

GPU2 on the GTX 260 and 2-3 SMP for the other cores on the Q6600.

[grimREEFER]

ok, thanks.

[vaio]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7525115.stm

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Nice!!! Now to cure Cancer :wtf:

[Kingcarcas]

I saw the "The Last Lecture" special on ABC last night and it makes you wanna fold on even more!

[SocketMan]

PPD=point per day

With ATI 3870 has the highest frequency and will bring more ppd's
than 4850/3850 and probably 4870 (don't have one)
Stock 3850 is about ~ 1900 ppd

Memory (in gpu's) does not make much difference, so lowering it can help
with higher "core" over clock;)
Don't be shy to ask:up:

[LaMpiR]

I've started to fold. Quad will be cooming so better result till then :)

[SparkyJJO]

Great! :welcome:

[hotwaxisbad]

Welcome to the team LaMpiR!!

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Welcome to the team Lampir, happy to have you aboard :up:

Enjoy your stay in the forums and happy crunching :wtf:

[MaK2000]

The team is growing so fast these days I almost need a bot to post welcome messages!! :ROTF:

Nice to have you aboard Lampir. :welcome: :wtf:

[MrRetep]

Just starting folding for XS:) Hope to add a couple more machines to the list in the coming weeks:up:

[SparkyJJO]

Hi MrRetep, welcome! :toast:

[Rise]

where can I get one of those folding stats signature images?

[MikeB12]

where can I get one of those folding stats signature images?
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/?nav=IMAGES

[Rise]

fancy :)

Thanks!

[texnofobix]

Just starting folding for XS:) Hope to add a couple more machines to the list in the coming weeks:up:

Welcome to the fold! :wtf: :woot:

[MaK2000]

:welcome: Welcome aboard guys!! :welcome:

[Kingcarcas]

Hell yah! This week i'm giving out party snaps to all new recruits
http://www.soimmature.com/images/party_snaps.gif
:yepp:

[texnofobix]

Those are fun to play with.

[yankee]

I posted in the other thread, but I didn't list my username. Now up and running on both cores of my e8200!

My F@H username is yankee81

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=yankee81&teamnum=36362

[hotwaxisbad]

Welcome to the team!!

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Yes, welcome!

Any folding is good folding! Thanks for helping out. We need all the help we can get!

[texnofobix]

By the end of the year (at current PPD) I will be at #99! And 90 days from the top 100!

[LaMpiR]

I only use my GPU(8800GTS) for folding because my quad is being delayed. I have about 3,6k PPD :(

[SparkyJJO]

I only use my GPU(8800GTS) for folding because my quad is being delayed. I have about 3,6k PPD :(

Don't worry about it too much. What you have to bring is always enough :up: If it can increase, great, if not, that's fine too. I sat at 1K or less PPD for a long time. It eventually grows!

[xguntherc]

I'm looking into Joining.. I downloaded this.

http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download#ntoc1

the top one. I'm on vista64bit. and if anyone noticed. I have a good system for this.. What else would I need to install, and how hard is it to get going.

[ThunderDuck]

This is for the High Performance Clients.
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther
The top one Windows: V6 GPU2 will install sys tray client for your gpu.
The second set of clients are for your cpu: Windows: V6 Beta SMP/CPU clients
There are guides here on XS for install and the official guides are here
http://foldingforum.org/

If you have problems or questions just post you'll get a lot of help here.

[xguntherc]

So what I downloaded was wrong.. Delete that.

and the link you provided. I should install the top one.. and thats simple. and nothing complicated. it will run in system tray. and thats for the GPU. then the second one is the Beta one for my CPU. I read it and it says I should install 5.92 first. is this correct? or should I just install the new V6 Beta. ( can the beta's or even F@H harm my PC?). also the top one of V6 Beta SMP/CPU says for 32bit only. I'm 64 bit. So should I just download the one below it. Even though it doesn't say for Deino.? I'm lost. but I'll give them a try.

So in both of those. I need to enter the XS #. or does it link to my name or something? sorry I'm completely new to F@H

also since I have Nvidia's 177.92 that has CUDA right. I don't need a new driver. or should I update to 178.13 anyways.

Thanks!

[Shadowtester]

Your video driver should be fine I do not think there has been any improvement from 177.92 to 178,13 MikeB12 might be able to answer that one better since I think he has used both drivers. As for installing 5.92 first for the cpu smp client that is not needed just install one of the 6.22 betas. I can not tell you which one is better since I am not a windows folder you need to get that answer from a windows smp folder.

[xguntherc]

Cool.. thanks for the info. and ya I'm assuming I need to download the second beta. as the first one is for 32bit only. second is both. I'm on 64 bit. but it also says different things in it. so i was confused.

thanks!

[Kondik]

I usually use the -Systray clients they are easier for me to handle and they lack the eyecandy things.

[xguntherc]

Thats what I want.. system tray. where can I get that for the CPU folding

[MikeB12]

Xgun, these next 2 posts will be how to setup and run a nvidia gpu client and dual smps on your qaud in Vista 64.. probably around 8K ppd.

FIRST Setup GPU.
1.
dl 178.13 drivers and install http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

2.
dl gpu systray client and install. http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/Folding@home-Win32-GPU-systray-620r1.msi

3.
Start the client, right click your systray icon-configure and set your:
team=36362
username=xguntherc
machine id=3
check box "slightly higher" on advanced tab.

gpu client is done. right click the systray icon and stop it so you can install your smp's.

[MikeB12]

SECOND SMP: they do not make a systray client for smp.

HOW I DUAL SMP IN WINDOWS (Vista): (6 steps)
1.
Download affinity changer, either 32 bit or 64 bit depending on your vista os. http://distributed.org.ua/forum/index.php?showtopic=1149
and install it. the service will start at the end, and will start with windows from now on. DONE.




2.
dl 2 copies of 6.22 mpich http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/FAH6.22beta2-win32-SMP-mpich.exe
and install it in 2 different directories
C:\smp1
C:\smp2

3.
dl the beta exe http://www.stanford.edu/~kasson/folding/windows/Folding@home-Win32-x86.exe
and drop it in the install dir copying over the old one.


4.
Copy shortcuts of "install.bat" and "Folding@home-Win32-x86.exe" to your desktop and rename them...
for my example I used

shortcut name = Loginx for install.bat
shortcut name = smpx for Win32-x86.exe

then right click-properties of both smpx shortcuts and add the flags (-smp -local) to them. as illustrated.
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3873/13044935qe9.jpg




5.
Before launching smpx shortcuts, always launch both install.bats (loginx) to get "mpi is working" twice for both directories..
You must use a windows admin with a password for this, if you don't have one with a password, create it now...
Turn UAC off in Vista.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6931/59655181pu8.jpg




6.
now you can launch the clients with the smpx shortcuts, the first time you launch it will ask you too config.
fill in your username and team.
answer YES to advanced config, and make the first client machine id=1, and the second client machine id=2...
the rest are your call, I just use the default on all except machine id...
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4238/95775832xo4.jpg

[xguntherc]

Wow Mike.. thats some great work and info there. Thanks for the Help. first off. Do i really need to get 178.13, or am I ok with 177.92 for now?

first off why do I need to Run 2 sets of the SMP.?? Just cuz I can with my CPU basically or what.. also after i add the flag to the shortcut. all I need to do after that is just click the shortcut. and I can remove that from the desktop right. as I use a dock instead.

that totally sucks there is no system tray for SMP. thats lame. lol.

and do I need a Passphrase for GPU.. does that matteR?

[MikeB12]

you'll get more points by running dual smp's. the smp client is not mature, so it needs both instances to milk all the cycles out of a quad. if fah ever gets the new fah core out of closed testing and actually working in windows we wont need all this junk. but we still do. you dont have to run 2, but it wont pull all the ppd out of your quad.

everytime you launch smp you have to click the login shortcuts to give windows the mpi rights to run the client or it will error.
then you can launch the smp shortcuts to launch the client. but you obly have to configure once, after that it just launches.
but you will have to keep the windows open in the systray to run the client. there's a service smp guide around here somewhere, but I've never used it.

smp is a little whiner baby of a client, so it does take some getting used to. you'll see it errors out now and then and requires attention to keep it going.
fah considers it beta still, but it's the only multi threaded cpu client they have. if you use the sytray client it only runs on one core and produces very low ppd. dual smps will procude about 3000ppd on a quad. a single smp will produce about 2000ppd. so it's up to you.

smp is one of the pieces of software that they tell you, hey look it's beta so quit biching... everyone complains about it, but it does no good.

you dont have to run it if you dont want, but many of us do and get an extra couple grand ppd out of it...

you can put the shortcuts anywhere you want, but you'll need them to launch the client everytime.

oh yeah, the 177.92 is fine.

[xguntherc]

Boom... there it is. My first Fold for XS (Or for anyone)

GPU is hard at work already.. Thanks for the info. Next is the CPU. or maybe I'll do that tomorrow. as It's almost 3AM.

oh and do I need the affinity changer thing.. ?? for now I'm only going to run 1.. I'll do 2 later maybe. we'll see how this goes.

[MikeB12]

you wont need affinity changer for one smp client, but you will for 2 clients. but I would go ahead an install it. it's just a small dl and a one click install and done. no configuring. it's not going to hurt one client anyway.

I have a copy of the 64 bit vista AC to make it easy, just dl this unzip and install it and you're done,. it's just a next, next, next install. http://www.scootplace.net/fah/FahSmpAffinityChangerSetup_x64_1.0.4.zip

[MikeB12]

btw. dl fahmon http://fahmon.net/
it will monitor your clients... and calculate ppd.
your gpu watch folder is in your profile/app data/roaming settings

[xguntherc]

Well for now I wont get Affinity.. why have something startup with system if not using it.. if I go to Dual CPU folding.. I'll get it. but thanks for the info. I appreciate it Sir.

and for Fahmon, is that where ur getting the pictures thats in your Sig. or is that from somewhere else.? and when you say GPU watch is in profile/roaming/app sett.. is that in Fahmon your talking?

thanks Again!

[MikeB12]

sig images are from here http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/?nav=IMAGES and tracks your wu's that are turned in and sent back completed.

fahmon looks like this and is just an app on your machine that monitors your clients, it doesn't track your ongoing turned in unit. just your current wu's being processed on your local machine.

I'm monitoring all of mine locally and my other folders across a windows netowrk.
the local gpu watch ffolder for the gpu on this machine I'm posting from is displayed at the bottom. and the client is highlighted in blue.

[xguntherc]

In vista in my user folder.. gunther, there isn't an App Data. so I can search for it through start menu, but not in Fahmon..... also what do I open when browsing in fahmon.. the log file or what?

like I can't find it to add to Fahmon.

[MikeB12]

control panel - folder options -show hidden files

[xguntherc]

Done, Perfect. Thanks!

[punx223]

i just downloaded it and installed it.... i changed the team number to 36362

and put my forum name as name.... is taht all i need to do??

also how do i get the sig bar with the info so i can see how much im doing?

[hotwaxisbad]

You can go here to find your stats just search for your name here->http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=36362
To change your team go to configure if you're using the system tray. Happy folding and Welcome to the team!!!

[punx223]

You can go here to find your stats just search for your name here->http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=36362
To change your team go to configure if you're using the system tray. Happy folding and Welcome to the team!!!



sweet i already have the team in...

and i have it folding at 4ghz....

[sniperbob]

WELCOME to the team man!

[texnofobix]

welcome punx223!

[road-runner]

:welcome: punx223. :up:

[punx223]

thanks for the great welcomes guys... got my 4870 up and folding also.... running it overclocked of course will fold faster correct??

i was thinking about putting the cpu at 5.2ghz and the 4870 at 850/1200

how will taht affect popint produced??

also if you dony mind how do i get the infobar in my sig?

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Can you fold at those speeds? Wow I don't think anyone will be able to answer your ppd question, you're the only one I know capable of >5ghz :up: You let US know how that handles itself :up:

Oc'd gpu will do better, I don't have an Ati card though so idk what clocks to recommend to try. Vid memory doesn't seem to have any influence though.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/?nav=IMAGES <- explains the stats images :)

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/sigs/sigimage.php?un=punx223&t=36362 that should be the sig image link but you're not listed yet :( Your folding name is punx223?

You can use fahmon (http://fahmon.net/) to monitor your clients :)

And :welcome: again :wave:

[SparkyJJO]

For ATI cards the core is what you want to bump up. The ATI shaders are linked to core speeds.

5GHz for folding??? Is that gonna be stable? If so, just wooooow.............:eek2:

:welcome:

[Marvin_The_Martian]

For ATI cards the core is what you want to bump up. The ATI shaders are linked to core speeds.

5GHz for folding??? Is that gonna be stable? If so, just wooooow.............:eek2:

:welcome:

I'm still waiting on the first XS'er who completes a gpu2 wu with phase clocks or even dice/ln2 :eek:

:D

[punx223]

For ATI cards the core is what you want to bump up. The ATI shaders are linked to core speeds.

5GHz for folding??? Is that gonna be stable? If so, just wooooow.............:eek2:

:welcome:



yeah on my phase im stable enough at about 5.15-5.2ghz to fold

that will be at less than 1.6 vcore and at approx -31C loaded

but ill test it to see how she does...

not to mention that 5.1ghz should give teh cards a nice lil bump in throughput also... so the gpu should hopefully in thery fold faster

[punx223]

I'm still waiting on the first XS'er who completes a gpu2 wu with phase clocks or even dice/ln2 :eek:

:D



that would suck lol... you know how hard it is to keep pouring on 3+ ln2 pots...

i just recently poured for a friend benching 2xgtx280's on ln2 and a qx9650 at 5.5ghz

trying to keep approx within 3deg C during runs is a PITA bigtime lol..

so running a constant folding app having to pour the whole time can be a lesson in patience... not to mention lets hope you have a dewar within reach

[Marvin_The_Martian]

that would suck lol... you know how hard it is to keep pouring on 3+ ln2 pots...

i just recently poured for a friend benching 2xgtx280's on ln2 and a qx9650 at 5.5ghz

trying to keep approx within 3deg C during runs is a PITA bigtime lol..

so running a constant folding app having to pour the whole time can be a lesson in patience... not to mention lets hope you have a dewar within reach

Alrighty, make it phase then :yepp:

Frame time about a minute should be workable with low temps, makes it just 100minutes of pouring ln2 or refilling dice. I read about those oc sessions lasting MUCH longer then that ( don't think it's under constant load though :rofl: )


Soo... when do you plan on putting the pc on the gpu instead :hehe:

[punx223]

Alrighty, make it phase then :yepp:

Frame time about a minute should be workable with low temps, makes it just 100minutes of pouring ln2 or refilling dice. I read about those oc sessions lasting MUCH longer then that ( don't think it's under constant load though :rofl: )


Soo... when do you plan on putting the pc on the gpu instead :hehe:



not a bad idea... 4870 at-30 to -34 loaded.... that could be cool....

not to mention 900+ gpu clocks... and i could atill run my cpu on my water loop at probably 4.5 maybe 4.7

i had one of those overclocking sessions about 3 or so weeks ago... was pouring for a friend like i mentioned above.... and watching 3 temps trying to keep them all in range is not super easy....

i am running my gpu right now at 825/1100

and started gpu folding a lil bit ago and i am at 6600/10000 not sure is thats ppd or what..... i had to shut her down last night because i was doing some work on her

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Are you using fahmon (http://fahmon.net) to monitor the clients?

I read about those sessions, never done it myself though.. yet atleast. I do have a ss but it's busted ( leak, need captube fixed and refill. maybe a bigger condensor as well ).

[punx223]

Are you using fahmon (http://fahmon.net) to monitor the clients?

I read about those sessions, never done it myself though.. yet atleast. I do have a ss but it's busted ( leak, need captube fixed and refill. maybe a bigger condensor as well ).

no im gonna give that a shot....

i have a chilly1 ss but its not nice on the eyes... and not mounted pulls down to -43 to -45 mounted and idleing about -34 to -31

loaded holds about -31 to -27

i need to get the suction line lengthened and tuned as it is only 1 foot to 15 in in length so i have to sit it next to my case....

plus the case is horrible condition...

it also has not electronic controls as of this time....

i would like to have a 36in lineset if possible... and i have the top detrait ac condenser waiting to be put on....

but since i just got laid off... let alone dont know of anyone to do it either... :(

guess i will have to wait till i can afford to do so..

also i want to w/c the nb on my biostar ut also no cashflow so i gotta wait on that too...

guess it will all come in due time

i was gonna see if there is anyone loooking to get rid of a univ. chipset block in the marketplace but i cant even see the marketplace...

not enough posts maybe??

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Nope 100 posts required to see the 'marketplace'.. Don't spam yourself towards it though, vapor will lock you out till you reach 200 when you do :)

What you can do is look at the freebies threads, or just ask in a thread. The 100 post limit is so 'we' ( .. I should be feeling at home with my postcount shouldn't I :rofl: ) get to know you a liltle.

Btw want to bet your ss looks better then mine :up:

Mine doesn't even have a case around it :rofl:

[punx223]

Nope 100 posts required to see the 'marketplace'.. Don't spam yourself towards it though, vapor will lock you out till you reach 200 when you do :)

What you can do is look at the freebies threads, or just ask in a thread. The 100 post limit is so 'we' ( .. I should be feeling at home with my postcount shouldn't I :rofl: ) get to know you a liltle.

Btw want to bet your ss looks better then mine :up:

Mine doesn't even have a case around it :rofl:



well my bare aliminum with some sort of double sided tape stuck to it.... case is ok.... i mean what can i do... at least its there....

is your card ok btw??

i dont wanna seem like the new guy coming around with his hand out lol

but if someone has a swiftech chipset block laying around... i know that will fit...

only problem is i cant find anyone who makes a vreg cooler for the tpower I45

i dunno i mean its an ok board with a really crappy bios.... but it works...

oh btw if you look at the results i finally finished 1 work unit lol

i know thats sad

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Card been folding fine, almost convinced it was a driver fluke but idk for sure.

Hope to get many many wu's more to come from you :up:

About the rest, I'm EU and flat broke ( well.. realisticly you could say that yeah ) but I'm sure a nb wb isn't that expensive and if you ask the right person who knows? Just as you say, I can't talk for everyone, I don't feel like you're acting like the new guy coming in with your hand out :)

[punx223]

Card been folding fine, almost convinced it was a driver fluke but idk for sure.

Hope to get many many wu's more to come from you :up:

About the rest, I'm EU and flat broke ( well.. realisticly you could say that yeah ) but I'm sure a nb wb isn't that expensive and if you ask the right person who knows? Just as you say, I can't talk for everyone, I don't feel like you're acting like the new guy coming in with your hand out :)



haha i gotta get ready to go.. another wu is about to complete on the gpu...

so i will run as much as i can... but i also do use this puter for other things but i will fold as often as i have spare cycles in the day :)

[coo-coo-clocker]

Hey, kind of an interesting topic.... what if we tried for the WR in fastest WU turn-arounds? Hehehe kinda like extreme benchmarks for F@H...
Finish an SMP project 2665 WU in under 6 hours.... :smoke:

[punx223]

Hey, kind of an interesting topic.... what if we tried for the WR in fastest WU turn-arounds? Hehehe kinda like extreme benchmarks for F@H...
Finish an SMP project 2665 WU in under 6 hours.... :smoke:



i know mine are finishing pretty fast :yepp:

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Hey, kind of an interesting topic.... what if we tried for the WR in fastest WU turn-arounds? Hehehe kinda like extreme benchmarks for F@H...
Finish an SMP project 2665 WU in under 6 hours.... :smoke:

Benchmarking fah, XS style :up:

[punx223]

Benchmarking fah, XS style :up:

+1 lol i just started and im already thinking of ways to get the fastest possible WU times