Who wants to cure disease for team 36362? [Archive] - Page 3

jimwah

10-25-2006, 11:42 AM

Dammit :slapass: I can't remember, did you try memtest86 in that rig? http://www.memtest86.com/ Surely it has to be RAM or motherboard related to halt after running fine for a few days? You've probably tried this too but disable anything you don't need in BIOS & strip out any cdroms/floppy/sound cards etc.

Maybe it's worth trying linux on there & see how you get on :shrug: I've just put fedora core 5 on my xp1800 & it's running really nicely and is getting about 90ppd, which is around what I'd expect.

I'm not sure what a 3700+'s worth but I'd keep it for a future rig, any chance of finding a real cheap 3800x2 over there? - I was tempted by a stupidily cheap 939 x2 deal from a UK site, but the next day they were gone; had to go C2D instead, shame ;)

SparkyJJO

10-25-2006, 02:35 PM

Yes, ran memtest for hours, 12 passes on the memory no errors. Prime95 ran for hours and hours with no errors. Everything extra in the BIOS is disabled (sound, printer port, serial ports, etc) and no extra drives are installed in it. There is a floppy drive in there but I haven't messed with that, it was in the system so I just left it. The CD burner is defective - caused major windows installation corruption - so I used a good one to install windows and then pulled it back out so it isn't even there anymore.

I don't know anything about linux. I messed with red hat 9 once and hated it, it was so slow and inefficient. I know that there are a ton of flavors of linux though. I did download ubuntu just for the heck of it though, but haven't used it.

Reason why I was looking at maybe selling my 3700+ if I got an opty or X2 is I can't afford the new chip unless I do sell it. Yeah, its that bad....

jimwah

10-25-2006, 03:12 PM

Apologies for the crap suggestions there man, if I think of anything more useful I'll let you know. Got my own PSU-based grief here at the moment too.

SparkyJJO

10-25-2006, 05:58 PM

Apologies for the crap suggestions there man, if I think of anything more useful I'll let you know. Got my own PSU-based grief here at the moment too.
What are you apologizing for? No need to :)

jimwah

10-26-2006, 12:42 AM

Well at least its only once every 3 days now, I had a p4 2.66 machine lock up before I went away. It was just starting a WU & was hard locked, when I booted it back up a week later I tried to delete the \fah\work\ folder & the core.exe, in order to clear the work & download a new core - it wouldn't let me. I think it may have been because of some strange permissions I put on the folder (it was shared for the purposes of FahMon), once everything was on default permissions I could delete stuff & got new core + WU. Its been fine ever since :shrug:

Rmc[AZ]

10-26-2006, 03:50 AM

Well my P4 box, aside from getting slow work units, just lost a 300 GB Seagate drive... oh well. :(

Seems like everyone else is leaving me behind, and I have no money to upgrade anytime in the near future. Mark my words though... i'll come back someday... ;) :)

GAM

10-26-2006, 06:24 AM

']Well my P4 box, aside from getting slow work units, just lost a 300 GB Seagate drive... oh well. :(
...That's funny. I lost my 200GB Seagate 7200.8 drive on my P4 recently too. :confused:

Sorry for your loss, Rmc. Keep up the good spirits :)

GAM

10-26-2006, 06:29 AM

Huh hm... sorry, but, are... WOO HOO! Number 2. :p:

SparkyJJO

10-26-2006, 09:14 AM

This is gonna hurt my PPD, I've gotten 2 GPU WU's in a row now that get to 13 and then go EUE, when it tries to send the partial work back it says it can't read the work file and deletes it. So the past 4 hours have been wasted! :(

I hope this new GPU WU doesn't fail like the others did.

*EDIT* AHHH another one failed at 13! What is going on????

*EDIT2* OK apparently that one project has issues, and when a project fails the client redownloads it to try again. Unfortunately this turns into a torturous loop of doing nothing. I had 4 EUEs that wouldn't even upload, so I deleted it from it's queue and now it got a totally different project. Hopefully this one will work OK.

GAM

10-26-2006, 03:49 PM

Hey Guys,

'Main' rebooted overnight for some reason. Hmmm. Anyway, I'm off in the next of hours for three days, leaving machines running, so there is a good chance that my production will stall if any of these machines decide to sh|t themselves while I'm gone ;)

@Rmc, if something fails, which is quite likely, this is a good opportunity to catch up. :hrhr:

SparkyJJO

10-26-2006, 07:33 PM

I'm gonna be gone for the weekend as well so my PPD will suffer :( I can't leave the systems running really because every morning at 4:30 or so school disconnects me from the internet and I have to sign back in. Kind of pointless to leave the systems running if they can't connect to the net to send/receive work units.

Does anyone know how to make a script or little app that would automatically sign me in every morning? I would leave the systems running if there was something like that. Basically load firefox, open a bookmark in it, and hit the OK button (password and all is saved). Any ideas?

I got an opty CCBBE 0617FPMW coming my way! :woot: Should arrive next week, question is whether I'll be able to get it before 2 weeks from now (it got delivered to home and I'm only back there every other weekend or so since I'm at school). At any rate at some point here in the very near future I'll be crunching with another core :D

@GAM you are the one that pushed me to do this ;) I'm trying to stay ahead :D Darn you for making me spend more money :p:

angra

10-27-2006, 05:30 AM

I'm gonna be gone for the weekend as well so my PPD will suffer :( I can't leave the systems running really because every morning at 4:30 or so school disconnects me from the internet and I have to sign back in. Kind of pointless to leave the systems running if they can't connect to the net to send/receive work units.

they can finish the WU they are working on and send them in when you get home, at the least.

Does anyone know how to make a script or little app that would automatically sign me in every morning? I would leave the systems running if there was something like that. Basically load firefox, open a bookmark in it, and hit the OK button (password and all is saved). Any ideas?

the way I think that I would attack this is to see if the web page accepts the URL type where the form data is embedded in the URL after the page. If so, then I would either use a linux box and a wget cron job or cygwin if no linux box.

SparkyJJO

10-27-2006, 05:37 AM

I was planning on leaving fold2 and fold4 running since they still have 4 days left anyway and I'll be back before then. Fold1 is due in a day or so... I may just leave it run. Fold3 isn't stable enough to leave running, though I suppose it won't do any harm if it crashes and sits there running crashed for a couple days. I wish I knew what the problem is with it... :stick:

GAM

10-29-2006, 11:05 PM

Well, after a dreary day for XS on the 28th, we've hit another peak at 35k on the 29th!!! :wtf: XS!!

GAM

10-29-2006, 11:06 PM

@Sparky, :hehe: 21days and you're toast buddy :CTF: ...you may need to get yourself a job ;)
btw, I came back from being away and not surprisingly Server was showing a BSOD. Printer driver issue this time I believe. I had to reinstall some HP drivers recently for my OfficeJet G85, wrong ones it seems. Will fix soon.
Surprisingly though, Main was fine until I touched it. Rebooted once I disturbed it :rolleyes:

ps. I agree with Angra, leave 'em on. They'll keep folding until they run out of work units and sit their relatively idle until then can get new ones.

SparkyJJO

10-30-2006, 02:37 PM

Back from the weekend, yes I left them on. Fold1 was complaining about "try #40 to send work failed" but o well, I fixed that :D

@GAM, I DO have a job, just one that doesn't pay as much as I want because I can't work the hours I want since I'm in school. And alot of that money goes to pay for school :(

I'll soon have another 1GHz system running - got one that was hit by lightning, repaired the mobo, and found the CPU is good :D I am configuring it now. Then within the next week I should have my dual core opty and that should help as well... But I don't think I'll be able to keep you from passing me. Maybe though, just maybe.....

Fold3 is back to its crash-a-day again... :mad: :slapass:

Darnit miochza passed me again :rolleyes: Gotta pass him again now...

GAM

10-30-2006, 03:41 PM

@Sparky, sorry for the job comment mate, just teasing, pulling your chain, you know ;)

SparkyJJO

10-30-2006, 05:20 PM

ya I know ;)

Wheeee fold5 is up and running! :woot:

GAM

10-30-2006, 08:56 PM

Excellent! Bring it on, Sparky. :)

SparkyJJO

10-31-2006, 02:47 PM

Ha, passed miochza again :hehe:
@GAM, now it is 28 days before you pass me, I extended it! Stay back! :CTF:

GAM

10-31-2006, 08:36 PM

@Sparky... Huh hm... Look again :fact: :rofl:
1993pts today :shock2:.
At the time of posting, 15days until 'sparkle day' ;) and another 600 hadn't registered yet. :shocked:
btw, my brother mentioned replacing his (in a recent fire) sooty AMD x64 3000+ system. Naturally I offered to dispose of it for him :hehe:

SparkyJJO

10-31-2006, 09:30 PM

:hm:

GAM

10-31-2006, 10:56 PM

:rofl:

[edit: update, 2,593pts today!!! :shocked: ...I think I deserve this :toast2: ;)]

Rmc[AZ]

10-31-2006, 11:32 PM

:rofl:

[edit: update, 2,593pts today!!! :shocked: ...I think I deserve this :toast2: ;)]

4 600-pointers in a 24 hour period... :rolleyes: Not fair. I keep getting 153 point Amber cores that take 16 - 18 hours to finish on my C2D system. And my P4 keeps getting EUE's on all sorts of projects... I think theres something wrong with it.

GAM

11-01-2006, 12:15 AM

']4 600-pointers in a 24 hour period... :rolleyes: Not fair. I keep getting 153 point Amber cores that take 16 - 18 hours to finish on my C2D system. And my P4 keeps getting EUE's on all sorts of projects... I think theres something wrong with it.
No, it's not really. But I'm lovin' it ;)
I have had a good share of 600's lately, mixed in with some 153's etc, but I also had a good share of bad luck WUs a little way back too. [Server just BSODed :( I jinxed myself.]

Your prod. has been lower lately :confused:. ...and I've been 'feeling' for you. Really :)
Recall, I got all those bad WUs for a while because my machines couldn't connect to 'assign1.etc' to get new WUs so it would connect to 'assign2...' which seemed to dish out all little and bizarre WUs.

jimwah

11-01-2006, 01:08 AM

Great battle guys, it couldn't possibly be any closer between Sparky & miochza :D It's all good in the battle versus Team Phoenix, keep the pressure on! Enjoy those 600's GAM, I've had my fair share of them recently, even better when 2 of them dump at the same update :banana:

SparkyJJO

11-01-2006, 05:46 AM

@GAM, do me a favor would ya? Go to whatismyip.com (http://whatismyip.com) and tell me the string of numbers it gives you.... ;)

....so I can change your client user to me.....

:D

GAM

11-01-2006, 06:12 AM

203.156.you.got.to.be.kidding :rofl:

;)

GAM

11-01-2006, 10:19 AM

sc00p

11-01-2006, 10:52 PM

I'm glad that I've bigger gap against this bunch of folders :bows:... maybe should do some investments before you are too close :shakes: :eh:

SparkyJJO

11-02-2006, 09:33 AM

I'm glad that I've bigger gap against this bunch of folders :bows:... maybe should do some investments before you are too close :shakes: :eh:
You might want to.... You already got bumped down 1 place. But at the current rate in 2 years I will have passed you :lol:

Only two years... :rolleyes:

Rmc[AZ]

11-02-2006, 03:30 PM

@Rmc, I did a quick check on the number of projects completed and the marked difference is; you have completed 10x2414's compared with my 25x2414's. Quite disparate.

Something must be wrong on your side, particularly as your ppd has been significantly higher in the past. :confused:

Where did you check that? I didn't know it was possible to see the number of each project completed.

Nothing has really changed on my end... same setup i've always had. So i'm not sure why there would be such a big difference.

GAM

11-02-2006, 04:25 PM

']Where did you check that? I didn't know it was possible to see the number of each project completed.

Nothing has really changed on my end... same setup i've always had. So i'm not sure why there would be such a big difference.
On the bottom of your F@H Stats page (here (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=36362&username=Rmc[AZ])), there are links for detailed listings of projects by project number within each 1000's range i.e., 0-999, 1000-1999, etc

Did you check your logs to see whether each client is successfully connecting to the assignment server no. 1. Example:
[21:42:09] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[21:42:09] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:42:09] - Will indicate memory of 2046 MB
[21:42:09] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:42:09] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/
[21:42:10] Posted data.
I was getting all those bad WUs when the clients could only connect successfully to 'http://assign2....'

Rmc[AZ]

11-02-2006, 05:11 PM

My assignments aren't associated with a name... I keep getting them from 171.65.103.158. But I have confirmed that this IP is neither assign, assign2, or assign3. http://assign.stanford.edu is 171.65.103.93. Looks like i'm getting assignments from outer space.

Do you get 2414's on all of your machines, or just your Main? My P4 can't handle many of the WUs that my C2D does... I get EUE's all the time. If you are getting 2414's on all of your machines, that would probably explain the disparity.

I want to buy a dual Clovertown machine, but I don't have $5,000. :( I would be tough to compete with then. ;)

sc00p

11-02-2006, 09:34 PM

']Looks like i'm getting assignments from outer space.:wth: Care to inform the folks at SETI phorums :lol:

GAM

11-03-2006, 12:04 AM

']My assignments aren't associated with a name... I keep getting them from 171.65.103.158. But I have confirmed that this IP is neither assign, assign2, or assign3. http://assign.stanford.edu is 171.65.103.93. Looks like i'm getting assignments from outer space.

Do you get 2414's on all of your machines, or just your Main? My P4 can't handle many of the WUs that my C2D does... I get EUE's all the time. If you are getting 2414's on all of your machines, that would probably explain the disparity.

I want to buy a dual Clovertown machine, but I don't have $5,000. :( I would be tough to compete with then. ;)
Well, the problem for me was my ADSL/Router blocking port 1080 which seemed to be required for 'assign'. When a client couldn't connect to 'assign...:1080', it would automatically try 'assign2...:80' and succeed. Result, nasty WUs.
Yes, I get 2414's on all machines, even the P4e which takes about 3-4 days to complete one.

This is a bummer dude. I know how frustrated I was getting there for awhile :(.

ps. I'm glad (for my selfish sake only) that don't have a spare $5000 lying around ;)

GAM

11-07-2006, 11:56 AM

I'd just like to inform a couple of our members that... I'm coming... :hehe:

@Miochza: 7 days!
@Sparky: 10 days!

:hrhr: hoo hoo ha ha haaaa ;)

SparkyJJO

11-07-2006, 12:02 PM

oh stop, back off! :CTF:

At least if nothing else you are the only one threatening me right now....

GAM

11-07-2006, 12:47 PM

Sparky, I'll try to grab your hand as I pass you by, and pull you along with me to the top 10! ;)

The Top Ten is only about 3-4months away :)

SparkyJJO

11-07-2006, 03:23 PM

Well I was hoping to be home free here with my new opty and overclocking it but I've got some trouble with temps and what looks to be a bad IHS mount :( See here if you like (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=122192)

SparkyJJO

11-11-2006, 03:28 PM

Well after quite a bit of frustration and work I got my opty at a good 2.8GHz :woot: CPU can go higher, but heat became an issue. Now I need watercooling to get this chip up to what it is capable of :D And between last night and most of today I got 3 of my folders in a new case together :) I'll take some pics of my creation when I get a chance.

Between all that my production suffered quite a bit for a little while :( But I'm back up, now with another CPU core going :D

jimwah

11-12-2006, 02:31 AM

Just read through your thread again, amazing job on the IHS man :up: 5.6Ghz of AMD in a box makes for a very nice folder.

I'm trying an old MSI 754 board today, to replace a horrible Gigabyte my Sempron's in at the moment - If I can stably get a few hundred extra Mhz out of it then I'll swap 'em.

SparkyJJO

11-14-2006, 07:06 AM

GAM, whatsup? You were supposed to pass me and you haven't yet ;) Now it is 26 days until you pass me!

Actually I was looking at your charts and your production is downhill. Not a good thing, especially when we need to beat TPR to 10.5M! Come on, pick up the pace :sonic:

GAM

11-14-2006, 11:48 AM

Sparky, I know. It's bad isn't it. :shakes:

A few reasons for this: I was away for 3 days over the weekend and came back to a BSOD on Server; a '...with the same machine id' message on Main and hence only one core was working (I don't know why I keep getting this message, I reconfigured both clients in an attempt to fix this recently too :confused:); and I'm getting a plethora of weird and wonderful but poultry little WUs for the last week!!!

To top it off, Need For Speed Carbon was released here in Sydney last week and well, er... you know... we all have our game addictions, right? Poor F@H suffers on Main while the CPU is working away on blistering race driving speeds :hrhr:

Driving games are my favourite games and the NFS series are my favourite driving games. :D I'm 90% through 'career mode' already so it shouldn't be long before I only play an hour or so a day instead of er... 16hrs :p:

My PPD is down at the moment because of those days over the weekend, but it should improve soon as production is back up again (impacted now only by my gaming ;))

SparkyJJO

11-14-2006, 12:13 PM

Here is an idea:

delete the FAH config files for both of the clients and reconfigure them. Also double-check that each client has the -local flag. I'll bet though that it is the client config is acting up so deleting and redoing it might help.

jimwah

11-14-2006, 12:21 PM

Guildwars interrupts my GPU output for a few hours a day at the moment, although NFS:Carbon does look tempting; it's like sc00p always says, the only games a folder should play are board games :D

Funny you mention BSOD GAM, I keep seeing them recently on a variety of customer's machines. Make a note of the Stop Code if you see it again, then search MS Technet for any clues, they're usually pretty vague mind you.

GAM

11-14-2006, 12:32 PM

@Sparky, thanks for the tip, I'll try it.

@Jimwah, I had to reinstall bloody HP all-in-one drivers recently and this always seems to stuff things up. I got sick of it and haven't been bothered to fix it yet. ...too many things on my plate between, mods, work, NFS;), organising audio and video files, recovering a corrupted HD, etc etc. The world of GAM is collapsing :shakes: ;)

SparkyJJO

11-14-2006, 12:42 PM

in the meantime I'll enjoy being ahead for a little while longer..... :CTF: :hehe:

SparkyJJO

11-15-2006, 08:40 AM

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=36362

Now tell me that doesn't look bad! only 73 WU's yesterday, 20k points.... That is awful! What happened yesterday? :confused: as of mid-afternoon we were at 18k and we only did 2k more points in the next 8 hours? Something is wrong with that... :(

Today better be back where it belongs....

jimwah

11-15-2006, 09:47 AM

Yeah yesterday was a complete nose-dive, looking at a few ppl's output it looks like virtually all of us had a bad-day yesterday [me included]. Something is going on here, and our active users has dropped too :fact: :nono:

All we can do is fold on & keep praying the Gods of The Assignment Server will be smiling on us tomorrow - and won't smite us with 99x or Ambers :bows:

Hope the world of GAM returns from the brink of chaos soon man :toast: Damned computers have a tendency to die just when it's most inconvenient :bsod:

SparkyJJO

11-15-2006, 10:17 AM

Hope the world of GAM returns from the brink of chaos soon man :toast: Damned computers have a tendency to die just when it's most inconvenient :bsod:
agreed, even though I like being ahead :p: I wanted to stay ahead by my production going up, not his going down and my production hasn't looked as good recently either :(

GAM

11-15-2006, 12:41 PM

Thanks for your thoughts, guys. I'm kind of 'over' fixing my machines at the moment. I'll spur on again soon.

Well, I've completed Career Mode of NFS:Carbon!!! So this shouldn't slow prod down so much now ;)

The keyboard connected to Server had a drink of beer yesterday and I couldn't be bothered fixing it properly, so it doesn't work now. But I notice F@H still runs while Windows sits waiting for login. I'll leave that sleeping dog lie for the moment.

HTPC really needs its scheduled mods to increase air-flow and reduce noise as its filters are starting to clog and temps are getting higher. I don't think it is healthy for my D805 to run at 63c 24/7!!!

I cut OC back on Main too, because it has been less stable lately, but I think this is something else not related to OC settings. i.e., NFS Carbon is not particularly stable, crashing to desktop every so often. I didn't have autosave on at one point and lost a whole district takeover session. Ugh. :|

I've nearly got a 7 card straight in 99x's now. I'm missing 994 from 991-7!!! I also got a couple of 3300's which I've never seen before. It doesn't give a PPD or proj. details in FahMon benchmarks :confused:

On a totally different note, do you guys want to check out some of the more recent pics of my mods to Main? I thought one of my 'buddies' would have said 'ooh, how nice, GAM', but I fear you either missed the updates or you don't think much of it. I'm believing you missed 'em. ;) Look here (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1822157)

GAM

11-15-2006, 12:58 PM

btw, I got a 153 coming soon, then nothing for 24hrs, then 1,872 between 24-48hrs away!!! (1809, 2124/5's and a 1862)
Where are all the 600 pointers gone? I was loving the run I had before. Really miss 'em now :(

My PPD's dropping through the floor!

Also, I guess everyone is having a bit of break now that we've reached 100. :rolleyes:

SparkyJJO

11-15-2006, 02:21 PM

@GAM, in FahMon if you go to "Fahmon > Download new projects" in the menu bar it should download the new info about the project 3300. I had to do that a few times when I've had "unknown" projects come through. Just checked stanford's site about it, it is the highest numbered (therefore latest I assume?) project in the list so I'm guessing it is most likely worth a good amount but I'm not sure.

We also don't need people taking a break, we gotta beat TPR to 10.5M!

Bloody_Sorcerer

11-15-2006, 05:18 PM

My production has taken a hard hit as my x1900GT has some hardware-related issues and needs to go in for RMA ASAP, though i do have more CPUs crunching, my main rig got slammed with 2 4-day WUs for a meagre 350 points each... ouch :(

SparkyJJO

11-15-2006, 08:32 PM

Well hopefully you can get back up and running again soon :)

I keep getting those amber cores every so often. That and those 2124, 2125, and 2128 WU's. Fold1 got a 1892 - 535 points - but it is my slowest system (figures :rolleyes:) Downloaded early yesterday morning just after midnight and it is estimating 13 days left....

GAM

11-15-2006, 08:49 PM

13 days? :cry:

SparkyJJO

11-15-2006, 08:52 PM

13 days? :cry:
I know, bad isn't it? The 750MHz slot 1 P3 in Fold1 isn't worth a whole lot... but it does help my PPD by a couple points here and there...

jimwah

11-16-2006, 12:53 AM

Yeah the 3300 aren't great - only worth 48pts, I don't know which rig got it, but the records show I've done 1 or 2. I'm sick of the 2124/5's - they really seem to bog rigs down. My P3 1Ghz got one of those & it took at least a week before it turned up on the stats :rofl: Folding on P3's is a game of endurance...

SparkyJJO

11-16-2006, 12:34 PM

I think I may have found a little tweak (thanks to BugsBMD). If you go to system properties > Advanced Tab and performance, there is an advanced tab there I believe where you can set how windows allocates CPU cycles, to better performance in apps (default, which is what you normally want) or background services (which is what the FAH client is). For a dedicated folding machine set it to background services.

So right now all my dedicated folding computers have priority set to low instead of idle and the CPU allocated to background services. Not sure if it helped any but no harm in trying :)

Also ever since I moved fold3 to my new case I put it in it hasn't crashed... It has been 5 days now without crashes which is abnormal for it. Not complaining but I just wonder how a case would cause that?

SparkyJJO

11-16-2006, 01:27 PM

you know I just realized, we lost Akijikan. Where'd he go?

jimwah

11-16-2006, 02:42 PM

Yeah there's a few that have gone AWOL fairly recently, greenwar, Akijikan, & where'd hoax go too; he seemed like a friendly chap & quite up for folding. Come back guys.. we need you :D Maybe there was a something shorting in that old case Sparky, had some weird issues when I mounted a mobo standoff in the wrong place a long while back :shrug: Fingers crossed it'll be alright.

SparkyJJO

11-16-2006, 05:18 PM

Hoax is gone too? darn.

What pains me also is to see some active members here with F@H stat sigs that are just gray. Its like why did you stop? And why do you still have your stats sig if you aren't folding anyway? :confused:

Oh and I just found out apparently Fold3 has been crashing.... it just did :( But unlike previously it has restarted itself every time, which while it is annoying that it crashes at least it reboots and continues now.

SparkyJJO

11-17-2006, 05:08 AM

Darn, fold3 hardlocked last night :( Back to the old games..... :bsod:

I'm going to be gone this weekend so I don't expect much to happen until Monday. I'll probably have 483 points in today and that'll be it for the weekend unless one of the two systems back home finish a WU.

Tattered

11-22-2006, 12:44 AM

well i have joined the fight :)

jimwah

11-22-2006, 01:55 AM

Welcome Tattered :wave: What have you got folding for XS? If you got any questions give us a shout :toast:

GAM

11-22-2006, 11:34 AM

:welcome: Tattered!

GAM

11-22-2006, 11:42 AM

SparkyJJO

11-22-2006, 08:24 PM

@Sparky, I've started levelling out a little more now but my PPD is still struggling with all these obscure projects. Hopefully my average will pick up again soon and I can start to seriously hound you again.

@Rmc, what has happened to you mate? No folding for a week!?!?!
Yeah I noticed you're coming back... now supposedly around 30 days before you overtake me. While I did enjoy staying ahead for a while longer ;) I'm glad to see you are getting back in the right direction.

I hadn't noticed Rmc had stopped folding :( Come back!!

SparkyJJO

11-23-2006, 08:43 PM

I finally got pics of my triple case that holds fold2, fold3, and fold4. Here (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1856001#post1856001)

Thought some of you might want to see that :)

jimwah

11-24-2006, 01:09 AM

:hehe: Good work on the cardboard bladecenter Sparky :toast: I tried a similar thing with a large plastic container a while back, needless to say it only lead to a pile of broken plastic & me needing a stiff drink :toast2:

(I would post in that thread but the last guy's attachments are stalling stupid IE7 and the page isn't loading :slap: )

vaio

11-26-2006, 02:43 PM

Just passing thru........lil 153 pointer in the post.
"Rebel Without A Carrot" is visiting :D ......Which only actually consists of one part time rig at the moment.(VAIOMAN).

This be a test run....or something :)

vaio

11-26-2006, 06:45 PM

Quiet in the folding section it seems.
Come on guys, step it up :D

SparkyJJO

11-26-2006, 07:34 PM

Yeah it gets kinda quiet in here every so often.

I was looking more at the charts today and noticed that angra's output is going down as was expected since he said he has to dial back for a bit, but as angra's output goes so does the XS total output. I think that we need to work on not being as dependent one him as we are right now. No offense to angra at all, I just think it would be good if we weren't so dependent on one person :)

Just a thought....

Oh and by the way, I did a really low bid on ebay for a mobo and I won. Bad me :slapass: money is really too tight for that since school just screwed all my finances up but at least that'll make an AMD thunderbird 1.13GHz folding :)

jimwah

11-27-2006, 01:09 AM

GAM

11-27-2006, 03:01 AM

:toast: Cheers Vaioman! Output is looking pretty tidy in the last 24hrs, well played getting that board on the cheap Sparky mate. I lost a p3 1.0ghz rig this weekend, its gone off to serve a 4mb SDSL line as a smoothwall; there's worse fate's for an old rig I suppose, and it kept picking up massive WU & dissappearing off the radar for weeks at a time anyway lol.
:welcome: viaoman

jimwah, I think you're looking at the wrong viaoman, statswise :confused:

sparky, :shakes:... as soon as my ppd picks up, yours picks up.
:shock: 365 days to sparkle day.

got 'main' (e6400) running at 3.6 now, not too stable but it's been behaving the last couple of hours, so hopefully that'll squeeze a little more juice out of ppd faeries each day :hrhr:, but we'll see, she's a little hot ;)

jimwah

11-27-2006, 03:51 AM

This you viao?
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=201851

I was being a bit vague, but I meant output for the team as a whole has been good the last 24hrs. Good to see the battle between you two guys is still going strong too GAM & Sparky :fight: :wtf:

GAM

11-27-2006, 04:38 AM

@jimwah, ic. My mistake. There is another vaioman pumping 1400ppd for Crunchers Inc. that I thought you were referring to ;)

SparkyJJO

11-27-2006, 05:04 AM

sparky, :shakes:... as soon as my ppd picks up, yours picks up.
:shock: 365 days to sparkle day.
:D:D:D:D:D

jimwah

11-27-2006, 05:17 AM

He's probably one & the same guy GAM, that vaio gets around ;) He's come over to help us out for a while :toast:

GAM

11-27-2006, 05:24 AM

He's probably one & the same guy GAM, that vaio gets around ;) He's come over to help us out for a while :toast:
If that's the case... excellent, and very nice of you VAIOMAN! :toast:

@VAIOMAN, what's was up with your sig? If it was removed, does that mean you can't create a new one?

@Sparky, I have one emoticon for you :moon:

...well, maybe two :D

SparkyJJO

11-27-2006, 01:44 PM

Hey GAM now you aren't even a threat at the moment.... :D

GAM

11-27-2006, 02:05 PM

Hey GAM now you aren't even a threat at the moment.... :D
Russn fussn mussn shmussn :upset:

I have seen very few 600's lately. I've dropped '-advmethods' from Main to see if this will bring more 600's and less of those 392's etc. Both Server and HTPC don't have this option and seem to be getting all the 600's which take considerably longer on those machines, especially Server. ...we'll see.

SparkyJJO

11-28-2006, 02:42 PM

Well you have a chance today to start threatening me again, yesterday was a big day - 1833 points! :eek: - but today will only be about half that. That was abnormal, what are the odds of most of my systems uploading WU's all on one day?

djgandy

11-29-2006, 12:44 PM

I joined!
Will add my laptop too.

SparkyJJO

11-29-2006, 12:54 PM

I joined!
Will add my laptop too.
Sweet, welcome aboard! :toast:

jimwah

11-29-2006, 01:43 PM

:wave: Welcome to team djgandy :toast:

SparkyJJO

11-29-2006, 01:48 PM

Crap fold3 has done nothing but crash today. Run for a few minutes, crash. Restart, crash. Let it sit for awhile, restart, crash. This system is so temperamental sometimes I feel like :slapass: but unfortunately that doesn't seem to make computers behave :rolleyes:

SparkyJJO

11-29-2006, 05:41 PM

Well here is a good bit of news:

I have a socket A mobo for a certain t-bird 1.13GHz CPU on the way, and also I just got a free 3200+ Winchester with a broken pin. Well I've fixed a broken pin before so I'm hoping I can fix this one, then get a mobo/RAM for it :D Would add nicely to my arsenal, heck I might end up tearing down fold3 and replace it with that so I don't have to mess with this annoying crashing all the time!

I got curious and sent Rmc[AZ] a PM asking about F@H, he said he's moving out of state so his boxes are packed up. Once he gets settled in at the new place he hopes to be back up and running though maybe not with quite as much PPD has he used to have. But he'll be back from the sound of it :)

jimwah

11-30-2006, 01:07 AM

Nice job getting the skt A board man, which rigs are in the cardboad bladecenter at the moment? Fold3 in there? I know you'll get that 3200+ firing out WU too :up:

Good news about Rmc[AZ] too :)

SparkyJJO

11-30-2006, 06:47 AM

fold2, fold3, and fold4 are in the box. Go figure, fold3 has been running prime95 most of last evening, all last night, and part of this morning and no errors...

I do plan on getting that 3200+ crunching, depending on the mobo I may OC it a little too :D I have the stock 4 heatpipe cooler from my opteron I'm going to use, I think that should give me some cooling headroom ;)

SparkyJJO

11-30-2006, 01:23 PM

OK I ran prime95 for a good 12 hours, no errors. Ran memtest for 20+ passes, no errors. So I rebooted, let it fold and it hardlocked within 10 minutes :rolleyes:
Running a different CPU stress test now, stressCPU I think it is called. We'll see what happens. SURELY something HAS to come up, it isn't freezing up for no reason! Maybe it hates windows and I should try slapping linux on it to see if it changes anything. But I know nothing about linux so that could be interesting....

jimwah

11-30-2006, 01:55 PM

Sounds like a good box for a test run using linux, the actual f@h client is almost exactly the same setup, once the OS is on there at least.. Bizarre that it primes OK & wont fold for more than 10mins :shrug:

SparkyJJO

11-30-2006, 02:11 PM

djgandy

11-30-2006, 02:21 PM

SparkyJJO

11-30-2006, 02:36 PM

Console only, no need for a GUI to slow it down any.

[XC] moddolicous

11-30-2006, 03:37 PM

What free linux would you go for, i.e. easiest to set up and get running without fooling around with tweaks ;)

Also, I'm wondering now if maybe the problem in windows is a driver? I'm just using generic windows drivers, maybe I need to get something more "official."
I would recommend either Ubuntu (uses ~1gig I think, maybe more) or DSL (damn small linux, I beleive less than 100mb installed footprint). Both are very easy to install.

SparkyJJO

11-30-2006, 04:30 PM

OK thanks.

I tried new drivers, didn't help. So I switched the HD to the secondary IDE channel to see if maybe the primary channel is screwy. So far it is still running and it has passed the recent 10-minute failure time.

Ooooo core 1 got project 1495, I love that one! :D 364 points, and it nets me about 457 PPD on core 1, and 105 PPD on fold1. Wish I'd get more of those instead of these 2124 and 2125 projects, the computers just eat through them :cool:

[XC] 4X4N

11-30-2006, 04:54 PM

Another noob question :) I have 2 clients running on my x2 3800. Using FahMon to monitor them. One client has a 18hr wu and it tells me it's worth 362 points. the second client has a 2 day wu and says it's worth 396 points WTF? :confused: A day and a half longer for 30 more points? Did the benchmark mess up for that core? And Sparky, I have a ECS K600 socket A board that I'll give you if the other one doesn't work out.

SparkyJJO

11-30-2006, 05:39 PM

I'm guessing the 396 pointer is a 2124, those are notorious for being slow. What is the project number of the other one? Also realize that the ETA is just a rough estimate, if you are using your computer alot the ETA goes up.

About that mobo, the system (fold3) I'm having trouble with is a socket 378 celeron system. However, I do have a 900MHz athlon just sitting here - does that board take PC100/PC133 or DDR RAM? If it takes PC100 or PC133, hmm... what do you want for it? :D

[XC] 4X4N

11-30-2006, 05:48 PM

Yep, 2124, damn :( The board takes ddr, but I have a 256 stick here also. I'm not using any of it. Just send me something for shipping and it's yours.

SparkyJJO

11-30-2006, 05:57 PM

That's be sweet, thanks!
Sent ya a PM :)

Fold3 is still behaving itself....

djgandy

11-30-2006, 06:00 PM

mine are all 2125's.
ETA: saturday.
Doesn't seem like a quick one either.

SparkyJJO

11-30-2006, 06:04 PM

yeah the 2124 and 2125's are the two notorious ones, might be a couple others but I can't remember them off the top of my head

SparkyJJO

11-30-2006, 09:54 PM

I think we've lost angry pickles.... :(

jimwah

12-01-2006, 12:50 AM

Yep, 2124, damn :(

I hate that WU. Stanford say it benchmarks just as it should :nono: I'll be glad when it's gone, since all the assignment servers seem to be dealing them out, hopefully that will be soon.

Hopefully AngryPickles has just gone on a sabatical & will be back again soon, the guy remains a bit of an enigma but a dedicated folder too :D

vaio

12-01-2006, 04:53 AM

The pup is 214th.......me go fix :)
Come on you inactives........get those rigs a folding :toast:

vaio

12-01-2006, 04:56 AM

I hereby challenge the bottom 100 teamies to a race to 20k....ready, set, go :D

jimwah

12-01-2006, 05:16 AM

I hereby challenge the bottom 100 teamies to a race to 20k....ready, set, go :D

:hehe: Good thinking, my money's on BandOfBrothers, his total score right now has to be a good omen ;) [1337]

vaio

12-01-2006, 05:20 AM

Good, bring it on BOB :D

[XC] 4X4N

12-01-2006, 08:46 AM

Now I have a 2124 and a 2125. Both are 2 day wu's for 396 points. This sucks :mad:

vaio

12-01-2006, 08:47 AM

Wish I could chew thru those in 2 days :rolleyes: ........3 to 4 for me :p:

jimwah

12-01-2006, 09:07 AM

My P3 disappeared off the radar for over a week working on one of those :p: Worst WU's ever. Even worse than those damn silly 44pts ones we got a while back iirc.

vaio

12-01-2006, 09:47 AM

A month+ for my 800 Duron........turned her off and boxed her up :)
Closing in on mr. 1337 :p:

[XC] DragonOrta

12-01-2006, 09:48 AM

Am I in the bottom 100? I'm still under 20k! :D

vaio

12-01-2006, 09:50 AM

You be 2 places above the bottom 100 :p:

twice :D

130th and 117th.

vaio

12-01-2006, 07:12 PM

Come on guys, step it up......can't beat TPR if you don't outproduce them....get those rigs a folding :)

vaio

12-03-2006, 10:14 AM

Actives up to 62 :) .........how's about a few more, get it up to 70 :)

xVeinx

12-03-2006, 10:58 AM

Hey, since we only use about 10 percent of our brains at any one given time, can I use the rest to fold if I hook up a drive and a Cat5 cable to my head?

xVeinx

12-03-2006, 10:59 AM

That's gotta be worth like about 8 cores at least....

vaio

12-03-2006, 10:59 AM

You could try........but send your cpu results first :banana:

xVeinx

12-03-2006, 11:01 AM

I don't know if they an SMP client written for that yet though...

vaio

12-03-2006, 11:02 AM

Just a thought....has anyone sent the inactives a PM telling about the TPR challenge etc and requesting they fire up their rigs? :)

SparkyJJO

12-03-2006, 12:20 PM

Just a thought....has anyone sent the inactives a PM telling about the TPR challenge etc and requesting they fire up their rigs? :)
I sent one to a couple of them yes. Hoax got back to me and I guess he ran into some trouble and had to sell his system so he can't fold right now. But he did say he has one in the works now so he'll be back once it is up and running.

GAM

12-05-2006, 03:17 AM

:welcome: new folders! Good to see others getting those whips out ;)

2124's n 2125's are the preferred dish from the WU faeries for me lately. I've been plagued with them for the last few weeks :shakes:

@Sparky, despite these WU's... :CTF:
;) I'm still coming and I want rank 20! :hehe:

SparkyJJO

12-05-2006, 06:44 AM

Yeah I see you in my rearview mirror :hm:

vaio

12-05-2006, 09:47 AM

Finally reach the 5k mark today :)

jimwah

12-05-2006, 10:18 AM

:toast: Nice going vaio, thanks again for the assistance.

I'm having consistent disasters on the SMP machines, I think since the client has been updated last week I've been getting about 50-60% folding time out of the two c2d's here - the rest of the time they are crashed or sending broken WU or failing to communicate or some other message I care not to read at the moment. Especially when I've been at work all day & one of the WU crash at 8.45am & sits idle for 10 hours before I can get at it again. I shall leave it another day or two & re-assess the situation, otherwise I'm considering moving these two boxes to other projects 'cos I'm not having them sitting idle, or practically idle doing 2125's either :upset:

:toast2: required...

SparkyJJO

12-05-2006, 11:05 AM

Apparently this SMP client "update" is no help at all. I think they broke it :bsod:

GAM

12-05-2006, 01:56 PM

Yeah I see you in my rearview mirror :hm:
Watch out when I get off this damn 2124/5 train, buddy! :hehe:

@all, I seriously don't see any difference with '-advmethods' enabled or disabled!!! Nothing seems to entice the WU faeries one way or another. :mad:

SparkyJJO

12-05-2006, 02:40 PM

Watch out when I get off this damn 2124/5 train, buddy! :hehe:

@all, I seriously don't see any difference with '-advmethods' enabled or disabled!!! Nothing seems to entice the WU faeries one way or another. :mad:
I disabled -advmethods on Fold2, and it hopped off the 2124/2125 train. It got an 1815 amber core instead :mad:

Just FYI... You are now 88 days until passing me :hehe: Also I'm expecting close to 2000 points today, and if I can hold you off until a couple weeks later I'm going to have a couple more systems running :fact: AND, I have a 3200+ waiting for me to replace a broken pin so then I can get it to work :D

I plan on giving you a run for your money bud!! :CTF:

Also...
I put the HD of fold3 on the secondary IDE channel and so far it hasn't crashed again. Maybe the Primary IDE controller is bad and this will fix it, but SSSHHHHhhhh... Trying to not let it hear me, it might break!

Hopefully I didn't jinx anything :rolleyes:

GAM

12-05-2006, 03:06 PM

@sparky, well I still have this p4 2.53 to put back together, and I decided not to bother with the soot covered 3Ghz Athlon64 system, instead deciding to give it to an underprivileged, aspiring techie. So, I don't think you'll get much more competition out of me for a while. ;)

SparkyJJO

12-05-2006, 04:42 PM

GAM you can have place 20 now, I'm done with it :p:

GAM

12-05-2006, 06:09 PM

GAM you can have place 20 now, I'm done with it :p: :rolleyes: [edit: ...well done. You deserve it, Sparky.]

xVeinx

12-05-2006, 08:47 PM

GAM you can have place 20 now, I'm done with it :p:

So generous!

SparkyJJO

12-05-2006, 08:52 PM

So generous!
I try :D

GAM

12-05-2006, 09:03 PM

I try :D
Damn, dude, you just slipped back to 21.... :rofl:

;)

SparkyJJO

12-05-2006, 09:20 PM

I retract my statement about you can have place 20. I guess I wasn't done with it quite yet. I just leapfrogged Jupiler by 42 points earlier today, putting me at 19, but he just uploaded a 396 pointer and leapfrogged me. But by this time tomorrow unless he suddenly uploads a huge amount I'm gonna be in place 19 for keeps ;)

GAM

12-05-2006, 10:40 PM

...just yanking your chain, mate ;)

xVeinx

12-05-2006, 11:59 PM

You gotta watch out, Vaio is out for blood... He'll be on your heels in.... 1000 yrs?

J/k :p:

SparkyJJO

12-06-2006, 09:15 AM

OK I guess that turning off -advmethods didn't help anything. Both systems I turned it off on got amber cores :rolleyes: Fold5 got a project I've never had before, but it has 250000 steps and is worth 500-something points :D Much better than projects 2124/2125 that have 50000000 steps or whatever it is.

@GAM, yeah I know you are rattling my chain, but now it is my turn ;) You are not a threat anymore again :D

GAM

12-06-2006, 12:35 PM

@Sparky, ...I noticed :upset:
FYI, I've also received a new WU this morning. Gromacs #1167, 494pts. 530ppd on 'Main'. Woo hoo, much more like it. This baby will come in, in approx. 22hrs total. :D

400pts more due in this 24hr period (1000pts total) and then another 1150pts due in the next 24hrs. Better but not quite as good as has been in the past.

The decline, lately, of my 24avg can confidently be blamed on all these damn 2124/5's!!!

They're pissing me off so much that I feel compelled to share the dreadful benchmarks I'm getting... as follows:
Project : 2124
Core : Gromacs
Frames : 100
Credit : 396

-- HTPC1 --
Min. Time / Frame : 47mn 47s - 119.34 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 55mn 46s - 102.25 ppd

-- HTPC2 --
Min. Time / Frame : 51mn 03s - 111.70 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 54mn 15s - 105.11 ppd

-- Server2 --
Min. Time / Frame : 1h 23mn 18s - 68.46 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 1h 35mn 11s - 59.91 ppd

-- Main2 --
Min. Time / Frame : 22mn 25s - 254.38 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 30mn 22s - 187.78 ppd

-- Main1 --
Min. Time / Frame : 23mn 18s - 244.74 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 29mn 13s - 195.18 ppd

------------------------------------------
Project : 2125
Core : Gromacs
Frames : 100
Credit : 392

-- HTPC1 --
Min. Time / Frame : 57mn 09s - 98.77 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 57mn 17s - 98.54 ppd

-- Server2 --
Min. Time / Frame : 1h 13mn 46s - 76.52 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 1h 20mn 09s - 70.43 ppd

-- Main2 --
Min. Time / Frame : 23mn 27s - 240.72 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 25mn 05s - 225.04 ppd

-- Main1 --
Min. Time / Frame : 23mn 50s - 236.84 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 28mn 01s - 201.48 ppd
Bad WU! Bad bad WU! :slapass:

SparkyJJO

12-06-2006, 02:17 PM

Hey better PPD than I get on those so don't complain too much ;)

Fold4 got project 1166 which is 574 points. Figures though, I want it on my opteron because fold4 is only 1GHz. Core1 will be submitting one of those lame amber WU's in about 9 hours, after that we'll see what it gets. Hopefully 1166, 1167, 1495... one of the good ones :fact:

justin_c

12-06-2006, 09:08 PM

I think that they should start giving out incentives if you finish a WU at a very early date; perhaps a 2126 in 2 days would give you +75 points onto the WU worth. Just an idea...

jimwah

12-07-2006, 12:29 AM

GAM

12-07-2006, 03:42 AM

A 'paddy'? :confused:

jimwah

12-07-2006, 03:52 AM

:hehe: iirc it's a word my dad used, it means have a tantrum, or 'throwing your toys out of the pram' Funny the things you pick up off your parents, you begin to realise it's more than you might like as you get older... :D

SparkyJJO

12-07-2006, 01:17 PM

I've still got a sackload of 212x projects & 1 or 2 ambers kicking around too, nasty...and I think a fan's giving up in my main rig's PSU :shrug: something's make a weird noise in there anyway. On a brighter note, neither of my C2D's has crashed since I had a paddy a day or two ago :D
If the warranty is out just pop the thing open and replace the fan. Not a good thing to have a PSU fan die as it can lead to the demise of a lot more than just the fan or PSU :eek:

jimwah

12-07-2006, 01:52 PM

Yeah I certainly don't need a PSU blowing right now...hopefully it'll hold out 'til I have some time to sort it out. Having consistent problems on my C2D 2.8 rig running SMP, found it stuck with a "Client-Core communication error" since about 10hrs ago :( I might have to boot it into windows & see what WU it picks up shortly, at least that way I know it'll be running :shrug:

SparkyJJO

12-07-2006, 06:53 PM

Fold5 decided it wants to eat its CPU fan for dinner I guess, its making all sorts of noise now :rolleyes:

GAM

12-08-2006, 01:32 PM

[bltch]
Bugger, we've got guests staying this weekend, which means HTPC has to be shutdown each night (it's very noisy because I still haven't replaced the HSF and performed intended quietening mods)... they're sleeping on the sofa bed in the living room where HTPC lives. They're young too, so they sleep forever :mad:

To make matters worse, Main was 97% through a 1167/494pts and got a 'File I/O' error. It restarted the WU from scratch... Argh!!! :upset:
[\bltch]

@Sparky/Jimwah, sorry to hear of your woes too. Folding does seem to be a little taxing on our components...

@Jimwah, re 'Paddy', I figured as much but I wanted to be sure to be sure ;)

SparkyJJO

12-08-2006, 01:37 PM

@GAM, well look at it this way - more incentive to get those silencing mods done ;) Sorry about that WU too :(

GAM

12-08-2006, 01:58 PM

@Sparky, true true. Hopefully will get to some more modding over the Xmas break. On another note, I have to share my new pleasure... :slobber: Dell 24" LCD (2407FPW) coming my way soon for my birthday/Xmas pressie care of my darling wife (with a little additional monetary input from me, of course ;)) .

SparkyJJO

12-08-2006, 02:00 PM

Oh, by the way..... I seem to have finished with place 19 as well :rolleyes: :D

GAM

12-08-2006, 02:06 PM

I noticed. :para:

Well Done :clap: ...and as Jimwah would say :toast: and you deserve this :toast2:

SparkyJJO

12-08-2006, 02:08 PM

I noticed. :para:

Well Done :clap:
Thanks... I'm just sitting at 18 for a short time. Give me a couple days and I'll be moving on :fact:

GAM

12-08-2006, 02:10 PM

Unfortunately I got nothin' for the next 24hrs and then maybe 1150. So you'll be creeping further and further ahead with no opposition from me. :(

SparkyJJO

12-08-2006, 02:14 PM

Unfortunately I got nothin' for the next 24hrs and then maybe 1150. So you'll be creeping further and further ahead with no opposition from me. :(
Well according to the stats you are still a "threat" (in a good way). What I think we should be both worried about is ShootStraight is set to smoke both of us in only a couple weeks here! This is a good thing for XS F@H team though so it is all good. But still....

GAM

12-08-2006, 02:26 PM

Yep, noticed ShootStraight too, but there ain't nothin' I(we?) can do when he/she's averaging 3000+ppd!!!

Well done ShootStraight :toast:, XS needs more like you and the other 3000+ folders out there! ...you KNOW who you are ;)

SparkyJJO

12-09-2006, 11:39 AM

Looks like we've got some members of the other projects coming over here to help us out for a spell :woot:

jimwah

12-09-2006, 11:41 AM

..On another note, I have to share my new pleasure... :slobber: Dell 24" LCD (2407FPW) coming my way soon..

Very nice GAM, I picked up a Dell 17" LCD for £40 a few weeks back & have ended up using it on my main rig it looks so nice (compared to my horrible iiyama 19"). I have my chance to finally sort this PSU out tomorrow (powers my x1900), but I've made up for it by hijacking the Gf's A64 Clawhammer to fold in its place for now - and with a bit of luck it'll stay on even after the PSU is sorted ;)

SparkyJJO

12-10-2006, 06:01 AM

OOoooo I'm dark red....! :fact:

For a short while anyway! It probably won't last. Not yet... But once I get my next few systems online in a couple weeks, watch out! :D

jimwah

12-10-2006, 06:57 AM

The modding skills of jimwah strike again - 580w Hiper PSU...dead! :p: hobbling along on a cheap 350w psu for now...not good.

SparkyJJO

12-10-2006, 09:59 AM

The modding skills of jimwah strike again - 580w Hiper PSU...dead! :p: hobbling along on a cheap 350w psu for now...not good.
Was that the PSU with the bad fan? How did you manage to kill it by changing a fan? :confused:

jimwah

12-10-2006, 11:25 AM

SparkyJJO

12-10-2006, 11:27 AM

Yup the one with the bad fan. Honestly I have no idea why it died, I've done the same to 3 Antec's without a problem - when I pressed the button there was a flash of light & a puff of smoke, must've shorted something in there :shrug: Nevermind eh, I'll get another PCP&C next time if I can find one :)
Did you have to solder the fan to the PCB? If so that could have been the spot of error. I have always been too lazy to do that, so I've just cut the wires, spliced the new fan on, and taped 'em real good :D

jimwah

12-10-2006, 11:44 AM

SparkyJJO

12-10-2006, 11:48 AM

Well your PPD isn't suffering yet so I guess that 350W is doing OK for the moment, but I would replace it soon ;)

justin_c

12-10-2006, 12:59 PM

damn my rig keeps on crashing when doing folding for over ~11 hrs; i think the voltage droops too much under load and it crashes and restarts. time for voltmods...
any other ideas?

pythagoras

12-10-2006, 01:11 PM

damn my rig keeps on crashing when doing folding for over ~11 hrs; i think the voltage droops too much under load and it crashes and restarts. time for voltmods...
any other ideas?

Try dropping the overclock a little first, it aint stable if it dosnt fold 24/7:D But seriously f@h stress a cpu like no other program.

Regards

John.

SparkyJJO

12-10-2006, 01:20 PM

What are your temps? What PSU are you using?

sc00p

12-10-2006, 09:20 PM

Nah the fan was actually on a 2 pin header in there, with a sense cable on a seperate header... pulled the plug on both & then just poked the 3pin connector (from the new fan) through a gap in the casing & plugged it into 3-pin to 4-pin molex adapter. Should've been straight-forward enough even for me - if it had involved soldering I'd probably in hospital right now somehow :p:Did I get it straight... you shorted the sense cable of the fan to normal 4-pin molex (->12V)... :nono: cut that sense cable off next time...:toast:

Why don't you mod wcing to the psu also... no worries about fans...:D

jimwah

12-11-2006, 12:44 AM

sc00p

12-11-2006, 08:12 AM

:hehe: Can you imagine me setting up a water cooled PSU... I don't know what I shorted but I wish I'd had a video of when I switched the thing on *FLASH* :D I'll pop it open later & see what I burnt.. :lol: DO IT...DO IT :wasntme:

BTW: the fuse just blew up... replace it and connect that fan correctly :stick:... and try it... :sofa: :explode: :rofl:

jimwah

12-11-2006, 02:40 PM

Post mortem revealed nothing spectacular, considering the bolt of light that came out I'm quite disappointed really :p: I honestly think some of the casing must have shorted something out, 'cos the fan should've been fine. the fan I put in wasn't reconnected to PSU circuitry, it was hangin from an adapter of the 3pin to molex type, same as the 2x 120mm in the case already :shrug: It was an expensive experiment, but it made me smile regardless :D

GAM

12-11-2006, 06:54 PM

@jimwah, coincidence maybe?
@scoop, long time no see ;) Funny, I was just wondering about you the other day while perusing the XS F@H Stats. I noticed your PPD :rolleyes:.

SparkyJJO

12-12-2006, 09:07 PM

I recruited somebody to fold for us - texnofobix (I think is the username) should be showing up here at some point once he completes his first WU :D

jimwah

12-13-2006, 12:43 AM

Nice work Sparky, hopefully he can make up for the e6300@3.2 that keep firing out EUE's about 50% of the way into each WU here http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/jandz/furious.gif

**brilliant smily gif pinched from TPR :D**

SparkyJJO

12-27-2006, 12:23 PM

Well unfortunately we lost the race, but thanks to the others it was a lot closer in the end :)

I noticed those horrid 212x projects are coming through again... :mad:

[XC] DragonOrta

12-27-2006, 12:56 PM

I had those 212x projects on all of my computers not running the SMP client for the past 4 days or so. :(

embeejay

12-28-2006, 06:47 AM

I have had them exclusivly for weeks on end on my conroe - can't remember the last time i got anything else :/

I am wondering if i should drop the bigwu option just to see something else

Rinsewand

12-29-2006, 12:24 PM

joined for the race and thought i'd leave half a core on it! (though i might have a fiddle and put it on one core or something, we'll have to see!

RwD

SparkyJJO

12-29-2006, 03:23 PM

Glad to have you stick around :toast:

texnofobix

12-30-2006, 08:15 AM

I recruited somebody to fold for us - texnofobix (I think is the username) should be showing up here at some point once he completes his first WU :D

Yep :D

Yesterday I added my FreeBSD box to the mix. Its only a 666mhz celeron though.

SparkyJJO

12-30-2006, 10:04 AM

Yep :D

Yesterday I added my FreeBSD box to the mix. Its only a 666mhz celeron though.
Hey every bit helps :D

INFRNL

12-30-2006, 10:16 AM

My C2D system has been down this week, so I havent accomplished much yet for this team. However I have mad some changes which I hop will help me start moving up the ladder a little faster.

Im still new to this folding stuff; last night I set up to run 2 instances on both machines and changed verbosity to 9. so I dont know if it works any faster but I have 4 instances running now; however 1 instance is running for the AMD team because they are the ones that got me started, but I want to support this team more because I get more useful help from you here at XS.

I have a couple of old machines that I may be able to use but I dont know if they would be worth a crap; they are just old 500-550 mhz AMD/Intel systems.

1 last thing I forgot about; I have a His X1950XT coming early next week which should help my folding quite a bit(I'm hoping)
INFRNL

jimwah

12-30-2006, 12:13 PM

Hello to RwD, texnofobix & INFRNL :wave:

@INFRNL, whether or not it's worth running an older machine, depends really - if you have the space & don't mind using the power (especially if you don't pay for it :p: ) then you might as well get it on... and that x1950xt will fold nicely too :up:

SparkyJJO

12-30-2006, 05:19 PM

My latest acquisition - Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester :)

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/SparkyJJO/IMG_9041.jpg

Got it for free because it was a victim of "CPU-ripped-from-socket" due to the heatsink sticking to it and numerous pins were bent and 3 broken off. Check this out though...

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/SparkyJJO/IMG_9062.jpg

Circled are the 3 broken pins except they are replaced! And, the CPU works :D I just bought a mobo from Lithan for it. I have a stick of RAM here I need to test, I'm hoping it works otherwise I'll need to come up with some RAM as well. But hopefully fairly soon it will be crunching for XS. Actually I may put it over on WCG for awhile to help those guys out some for the help they gave us in our race.

texnofobix

12-30-2006, 07:09 PM

i just added my dad's desktop to the mix too.

jimwah

12-31-2006, 01:58 AM

:eek: cracking job on the pins there Sparky, how did you get them back on so nicely? And what board did you get for it? Good call on the WCG front :up:

SparkyJJO

12-31-2006, 10:23 AM

:eek: cracking job on the pins there Sparky, how did you get them back on so nicely? And what board did you get for it? Good call on the WCG front :up:
I took a piece of thin copper wire that was the same diameter as the pins - actually a strand from a power cord - bent an L shape in it and trimmed it. The original pins are like miniature nails, with a head and the pin. I removed the head of the broken pin so there was just a solder point left, then soldered the wire on using the L shape to give more surface area to solder to. Then I trimmed the wire to the right length. Took a lot of time and several breaks. I made a bracket thingy - for lack of a better word :p: - that held my needlenose pliers in place with the wire since I needed 3 hands. Really crude looking but it works.

Lithan had an asus A8NE board for sale here that I just paid for, and will be on its way on Tuesday. It isn't a fancy board, but I've used one before in a build for someone and it has a few overclocking options ;) I'll most likely try and OC the winchester a little, it seemed to handle about 2.4GHz without too much trouble. I have my opteron's stock 4 heatpipe cooler I'm going to use to cool it.

Summers618

01-09-2007, 09:07 PM

my bad *delete this please*

GAM

01-15-2007, 04:01 PM

G'day fellow folders!

Bin' layin' low lately... but all cores back up and running full steam (well mostly), but I'm not going all out any more, it's become too disruptive.

Anyway, I've been running full steam for a few days and was wondering why my PPD hadn't picked up. FahMon has been misbehaving so I couldn't check the status of things... well anyway, I got it back up and running, reinstalling with v2.15. Now I see why!!! All cores were running 212x's. Damn they're bad WU's! (btw, does anyone know how to recover past benchmarks from FahMon? Everytime this has happened I lose all history!!!)

Well, lo and behold, one core on Main crapped out and it picked up a 1495 instead.

Just look at the difference below.
BAD WU:
Project : 2125
Core : Gromacs
Frames : 100
Credit : 392

-- Main2 --

Min. Time / Frame : 27mn 30s - 205.27 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 27mn 30s - 205.27 ppd
GOOD WU:
Project : 1495
Core : Gromacs
Frames : 100
Credit : 364

-- Main2 --

Min. Time / Frame : 5mn 18s - 988.98 ppd
Avg. Time / Frame : 5mn 22s - 976.70 ppd

That is an unbelievable difference!

On another note, I'll be hitting 100,000pts soon. :D

ps. @Jimwah, I finally picked up a replacement HSF for HTPC. I took your advice, mainly because I could pick one up nearby, and bought an Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. Instead of just replacing the HSF, I spent the weekend performing the first stage of mods I had in store for the cheap little case:
- Cut out fan holes
- Install top blow hole
- Cut out intake for front fan (previously non-existent apart from the tiniest slot on the bottom)
- Insulate with Noise Reduction pads
- Cable management
- A little black paint for the interior

Result, 15-20c drop in CPU temp. Surprising drop in noise levels. And, this is with all fans on lowest possible speed except CPU which I left connected to the CPU header on the MB (currently not controlled, but maxed).

I have pics of all mods which I'll be putting into a worklog and posting sometime in the future.

Cheers
GAM out.

jimwah

01-16-2007, 01:16 AM

Yup the 212x are officially the worst units I can remember, even those little tiny projects (99x?) were better than these.

Good to hear the cooler is working well for you, you can't beat it for the price really - and the minimum of hassle required to install it :) I've got one on my 805 here and another on my e6300. Post a link to the project once it's up too :up: I'm working on a little project of my own here, I've bought a plug-in power meter, and have been measuring the wattage each of my machines draws when it's running a load, & estimating what it costs to run each month. The plan is to thin out the machines & replace them with a few high spec boxes instead, reduce power bill, but still increase the folding power :D

GAM

01-16-2007, 02:25 AM

...Post a link to the project once it's up too :up:
...
I'm working on a little project of my own here, I've bought a plug-in power meter, and have been measuring the wattage each of my machines draws when it's running a load, & estimating what it costs to run each month. The plan is to thin out the machines & replace them with a few high spec boxes instead, reduce power bill, but still increase the folding power :D
Will do.

Hey, I like the sound of this power meter. I've always wanted to know exactly what sort of power a device(s) is drawing. I'm assuming this meter plugs into the wall socket and measures the power being drawn by devices connected to it? Post a link if you one.

Cheers

jimwah

01-16-2007, 03:07 AM

I'm assuming this meter plugs into the wall socket and measures the power being drawn by devices connected to it? Post a link if you one.

Cheers

That's exactly the kind of thing, this is the one I've got here (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=38343&TabID=1&source=1&doy=16m1). I've not measured all my machines yet, but so far the Dual Xeon is the worst offender, in total it looks as if I may be drawing almost a kilowatt in my computer room at the moment; and that's after I've turned off my 805 & an A64 too :eek: :hehe:

GAM

01-16-2007, 03:45 AM

Wow. I wouldn't be surprised if my office is drawing current like that. I'd be scared to check :para:

I like the device. I'll keep an eye out for something similar here. ;)

SparkyJJO

01-16-2007, 12:43 PM

I'm not sure how much my stuff is pulling, but I played it safe. All the outlets in my dorm room are on the same 20A circuit, which is used by the fridge, microwave, and the computers. Well I added another computer and upgraded one of the others so I ran an extension cord from the only outlet on another circuit (bathroom outlet near the sink :p:) to run a couple of the systems from.

I didn't want to have to ask my RA to get my circuit breaker turned back on ;)

jimwah

01-16-2007, 01:20 PM

Hard disk's failing in my main folder, the e6300 :( It's up again for now, but for how long I don't know. My list of jobs in the computer room grows ever larger...

My machines are all hanging off one outlet, with a 6-way surge protector plugged into one socket & an 8-way plugged in the other (with another 4 way coming from that!) - nothing's tripped so far (luckily).

GoThr3k

01-24-2007, 05:29 PM

i just joined you guys :)
my cpu has too much spare time

SparkyJJO

01-24-2007, 06:34 PM

Welcome to the team GoThr3k! :toast:

GAM

01-24-2007, 09:20 PM

Welcome to the 'fold' :wtf:

jimwah

01-25-2007, 12:47 AM

:wave: Howdy GoThr3k :)

GoThr3k

01-25-2007, 07:32 AM

21s/frame is that good btw??
thx for the warm welcome :)

SparkyJJO

01-25-2007, 10:10 AM

are you using the GUI client or the text-only console?

GoThr3k

01-25-2007, 11:28 AM

Gui

GAM

01-25-2007, 02:41 PM

21s/frame is that good btw??
thx for the warm welcome :)
21s/frame seems incredibly quick and not consistent with the throughput I can get. My best performing project, #1495, 'Min. Time' per frame is 4mn 56s!!! Nothing like 21s/frame, so something is amiss here. @Sparky/Jimwah, please explain?

Once the nostalgia of the GUI wears off, try running the console version as a background service. It gives a little more performance apparantly and is less distracting. You can monitor the progress of multiple instances via a program call FahMon, available here: http://fahmon.silent-blade.org/. There are others too, but this one I believe is the most popular (although I may be wrong here).

jimwah

01-25-2007, 02:53 PM

Perhaps the GUI will get more accurate the longer it runs :shrug: but yeah it doesn't sound like its working on the same scale as the text-only client (eg 100 Frames, each varying from a few minutes to an hour or so, depending on the type of unit it's folding) - I think people have mentioned similar occurences with the SMP GUI reporting funny frame times. I think the majority of us use the text-only client, often installed as a service, and could easily help you out setting that up :up:

[XC] DragonOrta

01-25-2007, 04:11 PM

The time/frame that the GUI reports is never comparable to the time/frame that the console reports. You have to look in the FAHlog to be able to tell us anything useful when using the GUI client.

Scimitar

01-25-2007, 06:14 PM

SparkyJJO

01-25-2007, 06:47 PM

The numbers of frames in the GUI client varies from about 50 to 50,000 (the highest I've seen). My 2.65GHz A64 does about 4 seconds / frame on the 50k work units. Others are almost an hour for a frame. I like the GUI client on this machine since it is the easiest to shut down for gaming.
The console client installed as a service (like in the directions in my sig) doesn't need shut down when gaming. It will just fall to the background and not affect the game at all, and automatically keep going after the CPU is free again. I play games with the CPU client running all the time :)

GAM

01-25-2007, 08:47 PM

The console client installed as a service (like in the directions in my sig) doesn't need shut down when gaming. It will just fall to the background and not affect the game at all, and automatically keep going after the CPU is free again. I play games with the CPU client running all the time :)
Likewise, although occassionally there are some side effects when I first start a game.

GoThr3k

01-26-2007, 09:44 AM

from the logs i see about 17 minutes for 50 frames
so thats about 34sec for 1 frame,still normal?
X2 4200+ 2.75Ghz 9*305MHz 1:1 2.5-4-3-8

jt710

02-06-2007, 07:40 PM

Hello all, just signed my old rig up for this program. p4 3.2ghz with 6800gs pci-e. is the gpu client an addition to the regular version, or is it a one-or-the-other type deal?

Drunner611

02-06-2007, 07:44 PM

Hello all, just signed my old rig up for this program. p4 3.2ghz with 6800gs pci-e. is the gpu client an addition to the regular version, or is it a one-or-the-other type deal?
Ah, your out of luck along with myself my friend. The gpu client does not include Nvidia cards, only ATI. We have to run the cpu client and thats all we get. Thanks for joining.

GAM

02-06-2007, 11:13 PM

Hello all, just signed my old rig up for this program. p4 3.2ghz with 6800gs pci-e. is the gpu client an addition to the regular version, or is it a one-or-the-other type deal?
Welcome to the fold jt710! :wtf:

LordofDoom

02-07-2007, 07:40 AM

Alright guys, I'm trying to add more machines to the mix.

SparkyJJO

02-07-2007, 08:20 AM

more the merrier, keep the crunchers coming :thumbsup:

Bootup05

02-13-2007, 04:40 AM

I've just come back to folding, only just started for this team.

Re-organised my folders now.

Folding @ Home
3700 Sandy @ 2.88GHz
1.7GHz P4
E6400 @ 3.56GHz (One core) (I use the other for gaming ;) )

WCG
600MHz Celly (small WU projects)
735MHz Celly (small WU projects)

ABC
1.5GHz P4

sc00p

02-13-2007, 06:41 AM

I've just come back to folding, only just started for this team.:welcome: to the team... :welcome: back to folding :toast:

vaio

03-08-2007, 03:12 PM

Forgive the intrusion.........just want to highlight a fellow folder/dc guy who could use a lil goodwill right now.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=136567

Thank you :)

PcCI2iminal

03-18-2007, 12:01 AM

I'm in

QX6700 now dedicated to the task 24/7

jimwah

03-18-2007, 03:44 AM

:wave: Welcome aboard mate :up:

GAM

03-20-2007, 03:35 PM

Welcome new folders!

Danger30Q

03-21-2007, 11:00 AM

I've decided to join the F@H team with a few of my computers.

I have a Conroe system running at 3.8ghz, a Merom laptop, and a newly built Home Server which is running a beta version of Microsoft's upcoming Windows Home Server.

Is the F@H client friendly to servers? I will try it out but if it doesn't, I won't bother.

I'm excited to help out the team and the greater good. Thanks to the leaders of this within XS!

GAM

03-21-2007, 11:03 AM

:welcome: to the fold Danger30Q! It's great to have you and the all the other new folders on board! :toast:

jimwah

03-21-2007, 11:14 AM

:wave: Hi Danger30Q, F@H should be fine on your server OS, it's quite a straightforward app, all it really needs is CPU time & a network connection, it shouldn't interfere with anything else. :up:

Eluzion

03-27-2007, 10:48 PM

I'm in. ;) Was folding on my PS3 before I sold it, but figured I should run it on my PC since it's always on.

GAM

03-28-2007, 12:45 AM

Good to hear Eluzion. Fold on... ;)

justin_c

03-28-2007, 01:49 PM

we definitely need a PS3 folding farm. the top 5 threats are powered by ps3s....

jimwah

03-29-2007, 12:50 AM

Welcome to the team Eluzion :wave:

@justin c they are just threatening due to sheer numbers at the moment, like this team http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=54376 page after page of active users, not with massive ppd. :eek: We could do with some of that :D

embeejay

03-29-2007, 01:44 AM

Yes our main weakness at the moment is because we are so few people - we actually have a very nice output for the number of people on the team. Ofcourse this is mainly due to angra who pulls about 1/4 - 1/3 the weight for our entire team ;)

more people are needed for the cause! :)

btw i'll get a c2d more soon, lets see if i can fit a folding client on it ;)

Mad Pistol

04-03-2007, 10:03 PM

I have an old computer with a 2.8Ghz P4 that is mostly idle during the day while I'm @ class. Guess I'll put that time to good use now.

SparkyJJO

04-03-2007, 10:40 PM

:welcome:

ForeverAgain

04-06-2007, 12:46 AM

Just joined today, hoping i can help the cause... and score you guys some points, it will be running whenever my machine is on, which is about 16 hours a day.

jimwah

04-06-2007, 02:17 AM

Welcome Mad Pistol & ForeverAgain (sounds like a movie title putting those names together) :p: :wave:

If you run in to any problems, or want to poke fun at someone you're about to overtake, make a post or contribute to any of the threads in here :up:

ForeverAgain

04-06-2007, 08:26 AM

I do have a few questions about configuring/optimizing the program. IS there any settings i should set for the program to perform any better? i have the "Allow receipt of work assignments and return of results greater than 5MB..." under connections. Also, i set up the screen saver under the display settings, do i have to do anything else than just tick that box? And last, on the machine this is running on i have a Pentium D dual core, if i set it up to run on both cores, will it have any drastic effects on my machine?

Thanks!

jimwah

04-06-2007, 03:14 PM

Have a look at the link in my sig to some setup guides, or some of the stickied threads around here; the text-only client is likely to improve performance, and you will need to configure 2x folding clients (with slightly different settings - ie machine ID's)to use both cores at once.

Have a read of the threads, dont be daunted, it looks like a lot of setting up, but it's generally quite straightforward & we'll do what we can to help out :)