Fold @ Home Personel

[Assasin-uk]

Ok you fold @ home people listen-up.
As you no the original XS fold@home team was headed by jbell.
Now he aint around here is there any thoughts on setting up a new fold@home team? or is the one for HERE already?

Thoughts suggestions please guys... we are looking for good a good dedicated leader to front this new team...

Sub teams are welcomed to also fold for this site also. And also make any suggetions/ thoughts....

If you have had enough DF folding is always looking for good people!!:D

[pythagoras]

Hi assasin-uk,

Well this forum is redundant at the minute as the site dosnt have a folding@home team:( .

So I would suggest setting a team up, and then recruiting members(I can help with this if you like, just let me know)

ygpm also

Regards

John.

[Assasin-uk]

Happy days..


John check your Pm m8..


This is the start of somthing great im sure..


Fold@home guys... your new team is being born...

[pythagoras]

Hello to all members,

You now have a new f@h team. If you decide to fold for xtremesystems.org f@h team you need to reconfigure your client with the new team number: 36362

All other details you have can remain the same e.g. username.

Welcome to the team and fold on!

Regards

John.

[bmg]

Originally posted by pythagoras
Hello to all members,

You now have a new f@h team. If you decide to fold for xtremesystems.org f@h team you need to reconfigure your client with the new team number: 36362

All other details you have can remain the same e.g. username.

Welcome to the team and fold on!

Regards

John.
Who "owns" team 36362? jbell "owns" team 3365, so wherever he goes all the contributions of team members goes there with him. It's not like DF where the points stay with the individual contributors. Basically jbell "owns" all the work of the 3365 team members. If a site is going to have a Stanford folding team then the site owner needs to be the folding team "owner".

[pythagoras]

This team is owned by the team members. I will mearly be the administrator of the team. The team name will not change or be moved. I do not "own" the team.

Good points Bmg;) .

I'm one of the Administrators of the official F@H forum, so what I say above you can trust. I'm willing to act as temporary team captain until the team finds their feet. I would then like to hand over that responsibility to someone else here at an appropriate time.

Regards

John.

[PS2pcGAMER]

Originally posted by pythagoras
This team is owned by the team members. I will mearly be the administrator of the team. The team name will not change or be moved. I do not "own" the team.

Good points Bmg;) .

I'm one of the Administrators of the official F@H forum, so what I say above you can trust. I'm willing to act as temporary team captain until the team finds their feet. I would then like to hand over that responsibility to someone else here at an appropriate time.

Regards

John.

That's a great thing for you to do.

Just so you guys know, pythagoras is one of the most trusted and well-respected users I have EVER seen online.

Props to you pythagoras for taking the time to set that up for XS.

[Assasin-uk]

Well said that man...

The new team is exactly that "NEW".

pythagoras will captain the new team for XS and i am sure we will all be here to support him.


Good Luck

:toast:

[bmg]

Originally posted by pythagoras
This team is owned by the team members. I will mearly be the administrator of the team. The team name will not change or be moved. I do not "own" the team.
I'm not trying to cause problems here, I just don't want to see a possible future repeat of what happened with team 3365. In the eyes of Stanford the team administrator (or whoever registered the team with Stanford) basically owns the team. If that person decides to move the team to a new name then the individuals that contributed to the team have absolutely no say in that. One person controls it all. People can't just move their points to a different team like can be done with DF. That's the reason that I said that the web site owner should also have ultimate control of the Stanford folding team. That's the only way to ensure that a site's team points stay with the site even if individuals involved with running the team leave the site.

I'm just looking to avoid a possible future repeat of what's recently happened here.

[pythagoras]

Hi bmg,

I dont think you are trying to cause problems. There will be no repeat of what happened before. Under stanfords rules the team founder has total control over the team i.e. can change the team name.

However I stated: "This team is owned by the team members. I will mearly be the administrator of the team. The team name will not change or be moved. I do not "own" the team."

This is in addition to stanfords rules and a statement that I will stand by.

If people of the forum would be happier if fugger is the team founder then I have zero problems with that and I will happly hand over the keys.

My sole motivation is to expand the F@H cause nothing more nothing less.

regards

John.

[Assasin-uk]

bmg, yeah mate we hear you, none of us wants a repeat of what has already happend. Thats one of the reasons pythagoras was chosen to do this job. I can assure you his motives and background in the folding community have been looked into in great detail.

Were you aware that pythagoras is the administrator of the official F@H community site: http://forum.folding-community.org/

Now im sure you will agree that his motives are clear by the large amount of work and dedication he puts into being an admin there.
(im hoping he will get some of his teamless guys from there in here:D )

Should the keys go to fugger? pythagoras is a big boy he can take it..

We realy want this team to be for the team and not for the individual.

Come back to us bmg, we are listening to your concerns, and want to iron them out.

[Tedinde]

pythagoras


How can you assure that it will never be moved, True JBell still owns the team But it's more it's members own it and fold for it.

I didnt even know the name was changed??

Would it make a difference if i owned it or the name changed back??

Thanks for talking it over with the members?? I've got 15 rigs all over the state folding??

What happens if Xtreme does go back together, It might or might not happen??

And another gripe, Every other DF or seti research, points can be moved, members, teams. Why not F@H??

As I said before, this whole mess shouldnt of split up the teams, or we should of just picked one name, just "XTREME" and folded between two sites.

pythagoras

If I remember you never stood behind us when all the accusations of cheating arose. No one for the DF forums did. ANd no one cheated, all WU's were completed and turned in no fake ones.

And your what hooked us on the Beta Gromacs.

And yes we did target good servers for gromacs, and yes we did post in open forums how to do it and yes all the other sites did steal it and do it but we took the fall.

Im active at both sites and this sucks both teams have split up so bad. DF is for TX and my F@H was for here.

And actually pythagoras Should not have the keys, @ True XS supported and member should not someone that stops by time to time. or someone with less than 100 posts or even less than 1000??

Actually i think fugger should run it. Did you even think about having a poll and Voting??

[Assasin-uk]

Tedinde thanks for your questions, hopefull i will help in answering some of them.

It was my idea to form the new team for XS, and one i have discussed at great length with fugger.

pythagoras as he as already stated has offered to hand over the keys at any time, but no-one upto now has asked for this.

The whole idea of the new team was not to spilt or divide us,but its purpose was exactly the same as mine in the DF section.

If you want to Fold for THIS website then carry on (DF) if you want to f@h for this website you cannot UNLESS we have a team for XS, which now we do.

We are mearly giving the forum users a chance to fold for who they want to, everyone has a choice, although the goals are them same. You or anyone else can fold for who you please.

I for one will also say post count has nothing to do with a persons credabilty, we are looking for self motiavted people who are here and now.

IF the f@h team want the keys to the team status then please reply and im sure it will be done, we are listening to the needs of the team.

So its simple 36362 is this websites f@h team number.

Lets try to enjoy some peace..

Fold on (for who YOU want)
:toast:

[pythagoras]

Hi Tedine,

"How can you assure that it will never be moved"-

Because I said so, I have no interest in the politics and as soon as someone steps up to Captain the team I will step down.

"True JBell still owns the team But it's more it's members own it and fold for it.

I didnt even know the name was changed??"

Arent those two sentences a contradiction?


"As I said before, this whole mess shouldnt of split up the teams, or we should of just picked one name, just "XTREME" and folded between two sites."

Thats still possible, and I would prefer that, is that what we go for?

"pythagoras

If I remember you never stood behind us when all the accusations of cheating arose. No one for the DF forums did. ANd no one cheated, all WU's were completed and turned in no fake ones.

And your what hooked us on the Beta Gromacs.

And yes we did target good servers for gromacs, and yes we did post in open forums how to do it and yes all the other sites did steal it and do it but we took the fall."

I also didnt accuse you of cheating, or returning fake wu's.

"And actually pythagoras Should not have the keys, @ True XS supported and member should not someone that stops by time to time. or someone with less than 100 posts or even less than 1000??"

As I said before if someone else wants the keys they are more than welcome to them. I have no axe to grind.

"Did you even think about having a poll and Voting??"

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33126

I asked there and people can choose to fold or not.

Regards

John.

[bmg]

Hi Ted-

You make some good points. If you've read my posts here (and jbell's posts about them on the other site) you know my opinion. I posted a response yesterday on the other site in response to jbell's comments, which you might have read, but I deleted it after a few hours (I deleted all my posts there that weren't locked, my old posts that originally came from this site as well as new posts there and I won't be visiting there again). As I said in that post, it's clear to me that I can never call the other site "home", regardless of what ultimately happens. My folding contributions were never very large (only 1-2 pc's), so they won't miss me on 3365. If things happen on the other site, like publicly posting private PM's, I tend to feel the need to respond for a little balance. You've seen what that stirred up. Also jbell took offence to my comments here in a couple of threads, which said nothing much other than team 3365 is owned by jbell, not any particular web site, and the team goes where he goes. I was trying to avoid that type of team problem in the future. Frankly the people here trying to get F@H going again have more right to take offence at my posts than jbell, as I said nothing that wasn't true about 3365.