Is it worth going from P4 2.4c to 2.8EGhz Prescott?

[Volcom]

Hey as above just wondering if it's really worth it or not as my 2.4c is sitting happily at 3.5g hours prime stable just need your opinions thx guys :)

[macci]

The 2.8es I've seen so far dont go much above 3.4G aircooled. And 2.4C at 3.4G is faster than 2.8 at 3.4G (in most cases).
I'd wait for a better prescott revision..

[htkm1]

No, cause Prescott is being REdsigned. A Revision D1 will be coming out. Read it on Xbit or digiDaily. current one run very hot.

[Jupiler]

I agree with macci.
Keep your 2.4c and wait for the newer rev. to come out.

[Kanavit]

I would go for the 2.8E. why not? u get SSE3, advanced HT, 16kb L1, 1mb L2 Cache, and 90 nm process. According to Xbitlabs, the Prescotts are pretty fast especially @3.2ghz and above. Plus this chip could be a collector's item very soon and be worth a lot of money. because intel's going LGA 775 soon. Besides , it will be more fun to install a prescott (478) and getting it to work. Like mobo compatiblity challenges and updating bios to recognize the L2 cache properly. that's fun, plus the bragging rights factor, not many people are fortunate enough to own a prescott, i for one will be envious.

[3rd-Dimension]

dude be quiet. dont give someone bad advice. Being a fanboy is fine but giveing someone bad advice based on bias is not acceptable. Also wtf do u mean its would be fun to "fix" all those things? There problems not projects that everyone wants to go spend a saturday having "fun" trying to get what they paid for to actually work. Stay with ur 2.4c the prescott is slower than a similarly clocked northwood at the moment.

[Peen]

Originally posted by Volcom
Hey as above just wondering if it's really worth it or not as my 2.4c is sitting happily at 3.4g hours prime stable just need your opinions thx guys :)
It really depends. If you can sell your 2.4C for good cash, and maybe buy a used one that does atleast 400 mhz more then your 2.4c, then I'd so go for it :toast:

[Kanavit]

Originally posted by 3rd-Dimension
dude be quiet. dont give someone bad advice. Being a fanboy is fine but giveing someone bad advice based on bias is not acceptable. Also wtf do u mean its would be fun to "fix" all those things? There problems not projects that everyone wants to go spend a saturday having "fun" trying to get what they paid for to actually work. Stay with ur 2.4c the prescott is slower than a similarly clocked northwood at the moment. Volcom wants to upgrade his cpu, since he already has a northwood chip, it seems logical to go to new prescott core as the next step. If his mobo supports it, i think that would be a great idea. Like i said before, I would get an P4P800 and any prescott. I still believe SSE3 will rock when more software is optimized for it.

DivX 5.1.1 encoding with SSE3 support (http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1956&p=21)

[skate2snow]

If you really whant to change go for the new 2.4A Prescott. It seems like theyre good OCer. Im thinking myself to stop my 2.4C order and take a 2.4A Prescott, but im not enough confident:(

[skate2snow]

Originally posted by Kanavit
Volcom wants to upgrade his cpu, since he already has a northwood chip, it seems logical to go to new prescott core as the next step. If his mobo supports it, i think that would be a great idea. Like i said before, I would get an P4P800 and any prescott. I still believe SSE3 will rock when more software is optimized for it.

DivX 5.1.1 encoding with SSE3 support (http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1956&p=21) First: did you seen those Prescott benches? I hope not, coze youre saying absolutely the oppisite of what those benchies are saying. and why SSE3 now? Probably is next upgrade should be in 775, and ALL 775 supports SSE3, and you dont need SSE3 right now.

If you really whant to comment like that on it, PLEASE give us some links or your own benchies(and i know you cant do that, coze you will never find what you said on a review)

[Kanavit]

here are some more links. :)
to be honest, Anantech is a little AMD biased site, so I use this one.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/prescott-tests_9.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/prescott-tests/divx.png

[skate2snow]

sorry, but in overall Prescott are some big suckers. And why they didnt show the P4EE?

[3rd-Dimension]

so all hes going to do is encode divx?? Funny show some benchies from something pratical. Games. 3d benchmarks. This isnt xtremeencoding.

[wimpie007]

Originally posted by skate2snow
sorry, but in overall Prescott are some big suckers. And why they didnt show the P4EE?
It's in there, but it's called P4 XE

[skate2snow]

XE is XEON, no?

But like 3rdDimension said: is it really usefull?

[Volcom]

GUYS come down a bit lol thx all for your help :) Not 100%sure yet but I think I will wait a bit as it seams the are slower but one question if I did decide to go Prescott A will it work in my mobo Asus P4P800?

[Kanavit]

Yes

http://www.asus.com/products/mb/event/prescott/images/prescott_07.gif

http://www.asus.com/index.htm#Check under motherboards and prescott support

Chipset Model Name
Intel 875P P4C800-E Deluxe P4C800 Deluxe P4C800
Intel 865PE P4P800 Deluxe P4P800
Intel 848P P4P800S-E Deluxe P4P800S P4P800S SE
Intel 865P P4P8X P4P8X SE
Intel 865G P4P800-VM
SiS 655TX P4S800D-E Deluxe (Coming Soon!)
SiS 655FX P4S800D
SiS 648FX P4S800
SiS 661FX P4S800-MX
VIA PT800 P4V800-X
ATI Radeon 9100 IGP P4R800-VM P4R800-V (Coming Soon!)


＊The Intel® Prescott-based Pentium® 4 processors will feature an 800MHz front side bus
and a 1MB L2 cache. See http://www.intel.com for more information.

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by skate2snow
XE is XEON, no?

But like 3rdDimension said: is it really usefull? :smileysex xtreeeeeeeeeme edition

[Soulburner]

I'm with 3rd on both of his posts.

Exactly what I would have said.

[dim3z]

yeh jesus christ, any bets the Divx encoding is probably one of a tiny percentage of benchmarks maximum were the prescott won.

aww and just an update: volcom is now selling his p4C on ocau forums, saw it last nite. i just hope it wasnt kanavits misleading, stupid gibberish that convinced him to do this or that he has a better plan then getting a 2.8E. :S

[a5h]

well P4C works with prescotts ....so he must have better plans :D

[3rd-Dimension]

thank god.

[Volcom]

Hehe yeh but no good ofers so far so I am not seling :) I think I will stick whit this cpu for a while :)

[a5h]

good choice, exactly wot im doing too. Think ill go A64 when the new boards come out

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by a5h
good choice, exactly wot im doing too. Think ill go A64 when the new boards come out wait april-may to buy a cpu is the better choice --> SOCKET 775 OR SOCKET 754-939

[Dajo]

they should have named the (E)xtreme (E)dition XE instad and named the prescotts EE (E)ncoding (E)dition

lol

//DAJO

[skate2snow]

LOL...

Volcom: You should look for better cooling instead. Coze it will be ``USABLE`` If mod w/ all yur upgrades.

[macci]

ACtually I'm not that sure if the Prescott is a bad chip at all :D

Check what my 2.8E does on Mach2 (and this is most likely the mobo 5:4 FSB limit not the CPU max speed yet):

http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/articles/28e/2.8e_4422_spi1m_30sec.gif

So 'Scottie can do some massive speeds but it will require good cooling and PSU.

[3rd-Dimension]

what bout 3d scores?

[macci]

Lobby Hi => 160.1FPS (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7657553) at 4301MHz (307x14 5:4)

[3rd-Dimension]

what bout rest for the final tally?

[macci]

Lobby hi and car hi are the only tests that tell you something about system/CPU speed. And lobby hi was so poor I didn't bother running car hi :D
So as far as that lobby hi goes its pretty much in par w/ NW cpu. P4EE at same clocks/settings would hit over 180FPS.

[3rd-Dimension]

so on par with northwood go with it based on the fact that the prescott can match if tweaked right but still gets hotter.