o.k. i'm at 4.01hz ic7-max3/ any reply ?

[warlock]

o.k

P4 3.2c

:D
i overclock my rig to:4.01hz / the info is fron Pc Wizard 2004
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IC7-MAX3(Intel i875P-ICH5)
Version : 1.0
vcore 1.75v/ vdimm 2.9v
pci bus locked 66/33
the Vapochill pe is running at full load, all setting, but heater load is at 85%
-----------------------------------
NorthBridge Information :
Architecture : Hub
Manufacturer : Intel
Revision : A2
PAT : Enabled
Front Side Bus Speed : 250.6 MHz
Bus Speed : 1002.5 MHz (QDR)
Memory Bus Speed : 250.6 MHz
-----------------------------------------------------
Chipset Information :
Type : DDR-SDRAM PC4000
Frequency : 251 MHz
FSB/DRAM Multiplier : 1/1x
Channels : Dual
ECC Diagnostic : No
CAS Latency (tCL) : 3 clocks
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 4 clocks
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 4 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 7 clocks
-----------------------------------------------------
General Information :
Real Frequency : 4009.9 MHz
Multiplier : 16x
Low/High Multiplier : 16x / 16x
Overclock Locked : Yes

Front Side Bus Information :
Front Side Bus Speed : 250.6 MHz
Bus Speed : 1002.5 MHz (QDR)

Initial Frequencies :
Frequency : 3200 MHz
Front Side Bus Speed : 200 MHz

Processor Performance Information :
Throttle Mode AC : None
Throttle Mode DC : Adaptive
Current Configuration : None
Throttle : 4009 MHz
-----------------------------------------------------
i bootup with no problems.:banana:

so people what do i need do next, about testing the rig..
its stable at this time...:rolleyes:
cpu temp is -2c and holding:cool:

[Slay3r]

Prime95/Superpi ?

Nice oc btw :D

[Karnivore]

Not trying to crap on your rig, but considering your voltage, and the fact your using a Vapo on the rig, I would have thought you could do better, unless you've got a poor chip.

[warlock]

what do you mean by a poor chip?
are you talking about the p4 3.2c.
this is the first time i'm setting up a P4.
ps.
i have FX-51 w/sk8v clock at 3.01hz
pc4000rc also fx5950 & vapo xe

i was going to get the 3.2ee, but the p4 3.2ee is the some as a p4 3.2c, but with lower cash.

can i get more out of the chip or did i setup this rig wrong.

[Çhrist0ph]

i was going to get the 3.2ee, but the p4 3.2ee is the some as a p4 3.2c, but with lower cash.



that makes absolutely no sense to me. Are you trying say the 3.2C is the same as 3.2EE but cheaper?

[EmineM]

I guess he means " cache " not cash..
if your running pc 4000 in a ecc reg mainboard... I want to see that, cause the highest speeds Registered memory is the PC 3500 memory of OCZ

[Karnivore]

Originally posted by warlock
what do you mean by a poor chip?
are you talking about the p4 3.2c.
this is the first time i'm setting up a P4.
ps.
i have FX-51 w/sk8v clock at 3.01hz
pc4000rc also fx5950 & vapo xe

i was going to get the 3.2ee, but the p4 3.2ee is the some as a p4 3.2c, but with lower cash.

can i get more out of the chip or did i setup this rig wrong.


wow, you seem slightly confused/confusing, Don't care about your FX51, 3.2EE puts a pretty good hurt on the 3.2C, but all that aside, and more to the point 4ghz from a 3.2C Vapo'd @ 1.75Vcore is not very good, most 3.0C would do that...

[warlock]

yes.

check your info w intel, i have a friend that work f intel.
he said that the P4 3.2c/512 & " Is the same as a P4 3.2EE but the only thing is the L2 cash thats the diff.

thats why the prescott 3.2 w 1md of cash is going f $329.99 in the market, yaa
sample
Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz/800FSB Processor w/1Mb Cache
Manufacturer Link: Intel

Pentium-4 3200E (3.20GHz), Socket-478, 1Mb L2 in-chip cache. Uses 800MHz FSB. Features new 90 nanometer(nm) process. Includes CPU cooling heatsink/Fan combo. Featuring Intel's Hyper Threading technology.
QTY Price
1-7: $329.00
8+: $325.00
Reseller: $325.00

Stock: Yes
- $479 for an Intel Pentium 4 3.4E GHz
- $329 for an Intel Pentium 4 3.2E GHz
- $269 for an Intel Pentium 4 3.0E GHz
- $209 for an Intel Pentium 4 2.8E GHz






Compatible Operating System:
Win ME
Win NT 4.0
Win 2000
Linux: Red Hat or Suse
Win XP

[oc-rookie]

Totally different chips dude. What department does your friend work in?

[Karnivore]

Originally posted by warlock
yes.

check your info w intel, i have a friend that work f intel.
he said that the P4 3.2c/512 & " Is the same as a P4 3.2EE but the only thing is the L2 cash thats the diff.

thats why the prescott 3.2 w 1md of cash is going f $329.99 in the market, yaa
sample
Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz/800FSB Processor w/1Mb Cache
Manufacturer Link: Intel

Pentium-4 3200E (3.20GHz), Socket-478, 1Mb L2 in-chip cache. Uses 800MHz FSB. Features new 90 nanometer(nm) process. Includes CPU cooling heatsink/Fan combo. Featuring Intel's Hyper Threading technology.
QTY Price
1-7: $329.00
8+: $325.00
Reseller: $325.00

Stock: Yes
- $479 for an Intel Pentium 4 3.4E GHz
- $329 for an Intel Pentium 4 3.2E GHz
- $269 for an Intel Pentium 4 3.0E GHz
- $209 for an Intel Pentium 4 2.8E GHz






Compatible Operating System:
Win ME
Win NT 4.0
Win 2000
Linux: Red Hat or Suse
Win XP


Is there some point in here your trying to make?

[lalPOOO]

"he said that the P4 3.2c/512 & " Is the same as a P4 3.2EE but the only thing is the L2 cash thats the diff."

Yea, that is the 'only' difference, however thats also why its alot faster...

What kind of pc4000 is that? Depending on who its made by you can probably get it to 2.5-4-4-7 at 250mhz if you're not planning to go any farther.

You keep asking "what do I do next?" is 250mhz fsb the highest you can boot at? if not the obivious answer is to keep pushing it until you can't boot, and then back off a bit... Also, your pc4000 shouldn't need 2.9v to do stock speeds.

[warlock]

thanks f reply.

my mem are Corsair twinx1024-4000pro w/lad lights
Type : DDR-SDRAM PC4000
Frequency : 251 MHz
FSB/DRAM Multiplier : 1/1x
Channels : Dual
ECC Diagnostic : No
CAS Latency (tCL) : 3 clocks
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 4 clocks
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 4 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 7 clocks

is stock setting.

i ran pro 95 f one hour, no problems.
my vapochill is 160w only, i do not think that i can go high then 250fbs
any ide...

[Techmasta]

Originally posted by oc-rookie
Totally different chips dude. What department does your friend work in?

Janitor?


And warlock can you please try spelling correctly.

[texuspete00]

Seems there is some kind of communication problem. From what I gather you jacked the volts and set your bus to 250. Ok fine, so get to overclocking and go up. Though, I dont think many run 1.75v on there p4's and that much might not be helping more than something lower. 2.9 is still very in the clear for ram but you are running stock speeds. :shrug:

So dont know what more specific advice to give. I would give 1.6v cpu a try. Then up your fsb so long as cpu is still stable. Maybe tighten the timings a little bit. What was mentioned before sounded good. 2.5 - 4 - 4 - 7 .... Im not up on PC4000 memory just that there timings are bad but those sounded reasonable for those sticks. Of course, now you have some room for cpu volts should you need them. Dont know if the IC7 max 3 has had its ddr volt issues fixed because while that cpu volt was scary, ddr is a-ok... but use it to clock them ;)

[Rancidelephant]

Originally posted by warlock
yes.

check your info w intel, i have a friend that work f intel.
he said that the P4 3.2c/512 & " Is the same as a P4 3.2EE but the only thing is the L2 cash thats the diff.

thats why the prescott 3.2 w 1md of cash is going f $329.99 in the market, yaa
sample
Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz/800FSB Processor w/1Mb Cache
Manufacturer Link: Intel

Pentium-4 3200E (3.20GHz), Socket-478, 1Mb L2 in-chip cache. Uses 800MHz FSB. Features new 90 nanometer(nm) process. Includes CPU cooling heatsink/Fan combo. Featuring Intel's Hyper Threading technology.
QTY Price
1-7: $329.00
8+: $325.00
Reseller: $325.00

Stock: Yes
- $479 for an Intel Pentium 4 3.4E GHz
- $329 for an Intel Pentium 4 3.2E GHz
- $269 for an Intel Pentium 4 3.0E GHz
- $209 for an Intel Pentium 4 2.8E GHz






Compatible Operating System:
Win ME
Win NT 4.0
Win 2000
Linux: Red Hat or Suse
Win XP

then your firend is what is comonly known ans an idiot.

If he works for intel then surely he would know that the 3.2c has exactly the same l2 cache as a 3.2EE ... doesnt it have an added L3 cache ?

[gokickrocks]

next step would be lowering those mem timings

[Karnivore]

Originally posted by gokickrocks
next step would be lowering those mem timings


Actually, I think a better plan of action is to have a Mod combine some of THESE (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=330861) :stick:, and call in an interpreter......:confused:

[lalPOOO]

prime 95 for 1 hour means almost nothing, and I'm guessing to didn't run 2 instances of it either, so it means even less. Are you actually planning to overclock this thing, or are you just cranking the volts on everything and setting "good" numbers?

See how high you can get the chip to boot at, and start with stock volts and only increase when it won't boot, no point in running 1.725 if you don't need it, as theres a good chance your chips life will be shortened.

edit: and why do you keep copy and pasting what "sys-wizard" or whatever's info?

[blinky]

why does this guy have like 4 threads on the OCing section about the same overclock?

[warlock]

thanks

i lower my vcore to 1.6v , i'll start there...

[Karnivore]

Originally posted by warlock
thanks

i lower my vcore to 1.6v , i'll start there...


Lower it to default, and start over, only increase as needed, and keep each increase minimal and tested...

[warlock]

o.k start 1.5v
tested o.k.
mem default setting
tested 210 o.k. stable
tested 215 o.k. stable
tested 220 o.k. stable
tested 235 o.k stable
tested 230 o.k stable
tested 235 o.k stable
tested 240 o.k. stable
tested 245 o.k. stable
tested 250 o.k. stable
tested 255 o.k. stable
tested 260 o.k small problem w memory
stop
mem timing is 3.0 4.4.7
i'll try 2.5 4.4.7 and run the test again
i'll get back to you

thanks

[Karnivore]

Ok, so far your OC is higher and you haven't upped Vcore at all. I would suggest dropping your memory divider to 5:4 and finding out your processors max OC. One thing to consider is many P4C processors gain little or nothing from added Voltage. Not saying yours will be this way, just add voltage only when you need to, and preferably keep it under 1.8v, more comfortably under 1.7, although many with Vapo/Prom seem to not mind a bit more volts. Once you find the processors limit, then you can get optimum memory settings.



EDIT: Also if your having trouble at cas 3, cas 2.5 is tighter timing and logically your memory would be less stable. Don't be afraid to add voltage to your memory, unlike the P4 processor most memory can tolerate, and actually thrives on voltage increase...

[r3b0rN]

Originally posted by warlock
tested 260 o.k small problem w memory
stop
mem timing is 3.0 4.4.7
i'll try 2.5 4.4.7 and run the test again
i'll get back to you

thanks

please dont tell me u own a vapo and dont know squat about ram latencys.

[oc-rookie]

Originally posted by r3b0rN
please dont tell me u own a vapo and dont know squat about ram latencys.

I think he just did........

[warlock]

yea r3b0rN


there are diff stick, and diff timeing
corsair xms pc4000pro, i read some thead about them
and some you get luckly.
so yes do not no about them.

any way

Karnivore thanks f info.

i try diff setting but the only one got stable was:
250 /1.7v /mem 2.7v 2.5 4.4.7
by the way then i set vcore to 1.650v the system started to beep
that after win is running, so i when back in bios and set it to 1.75v, then the beeping stop.
it sound cracy but it did
no blue screen at all

[Karnivore]

Originally posted by warlock
by the way then i set vcore to 1.650v the system started to beep
that after win is running, so i when back in bios and set it to 1.75v, then the beeping stop.
it sound cracy but it did
no blue screen at all



Possibly your using Hardware monitor, which beeps when Voltage setting is above specified (programs default) voltages.

Not trying to be mean but it sounds like you need to read up a bit more before you try to push your system to much further.

[enzoR]

set your timings to 3 4 4 8 and do you need 1.75 vcore??? and by stable... you mean 24 hours of 2 instance prime right?

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by oc-rookie
Totally different chips dude. What department does your friend work in?

I think one (or both) of them are confused between the "E" and
"EE" versions.

The "E" (prescott) is appx the same speed as the northwood, it has more cache, but longerpipeline, and costs the same.

The "EE" (Extreme edition) is significantly faster than the "C" and the "E", but cost's alot more.