Need help

[Av3ng3r]

Hello,

Because the socket 939 has delayed I want to build a new rig.. with a Pentium 4 3,2 which can do 4,0 on watercooling

I already have 512 mb ddr lvl2 Mushkin PC3500 . I want to buy a ABIT IC7-MAX3(good choice?? , i heard therewere some problems with the older revisions) and a P4 3,2 ghz..

Whats the best stepping i could get to get that 3,2 on 4,0 on watercooling or even further ? Or should i just wait for some new AMD 64 stock mobo's with a vdimm of 3,2 or higher

[buff]

uhm, I am not sure if u can get 4.0ghz without atleast chilled water.....
If ur system can wait 1 month, get the price drops atleast when the 939 pin A64's come out

[Av3ng3r]

Already read this??

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14249

and this:

http://www.x86-secret.com/

x86 reports that the s939 has delayed for a month the release was planned on 29 march 2004.

And there will only 10000 amd 64 s939 processors in Q2 i don't think the s939 will be a succes in Q2...

[wespwnzu]

if you want a 478 setup, id recommend using a p4c800 dlx board. 800 mhz on wc is kind of picky to be expecting. i mean it is possible tho.

[Av3ng3r]

p4c800 doesn't have 3,2 vdimm stock. i don't want to volt mod mobo's. and i already oc'ed a 2.6 to 3.4 so 800mhz is possible

[Techmasta]

2.6 to 3.4 is different than 3.2 to 4.0. Just because you buy a higher clocked chip doesn't mean it is going to overclock the same as a lower clocked one. The IC7-MAX3 has 3.2 vdimm stock but it has fluctuation problems so it isn't useful.

[skate2snow]

I whould recommend the P4C800(-E dlx or dlx if you need those features).

And 3.2C@4.0 are normally did w/ some MACH1 or a bit lower grade.

[Av3ng3r]

Originally posted by Techmasta
2.6 to 3.4 is different than 3.2 to 4.0. Just because you buy a higher clocked chip doesn't mean it is going to overclock the same as a lower clocked one. The IC7-MAX3 has 3.2 vdimm stock but it has fluctuation problems so it isn't useful.

I heard the IC7-MAX3 had fluctuation problems in earlier revisions with some voltages. The problem should have been fixed in the newer revisions , i don't know if this is true..?

Btw a new Prometeia is quite expensive over here , 750 euro (Mach II). They don't sell Mach I here anymore... I should live in canada :rolleyes:

[buff]

... I should live in canada

or America :D

I hear alot of good things about the P4C800...........
lately the Abit boards ahev been poopy.


and i already oc'ed a 2.6 to 3.4 so 800mhz is possible
thats like saying, " I oced a 1.47 Athlon to 2.47, so I am going to buy a 2.2 and oc to 3.2, its possible........."
not likely.

[Techmasta]

Originally posted by Av3ng3r
I heard the IC7-MAX3 had fluctuation problems in earlier revisions with some voltages. The problem should have been fixed in the newer revisions , i don't know if this is true..?


I don't think that the power fluctuation problem has been fixed even with the latest ones.

[Av3ng3r]

I suppose there some people around here who have a new revision of the IC7-MAX3.. So we don't know for sure if they have problems with a fluctating vdimm...

I don't like to Vmod on new stuff because of the warranty.. (i never did it before so..) the ASUS P4C800 is a great mobo , i 100% agree but when i dont have a vdimm of 3,2 i can't get a high fsb or low timings.. (mushkin memory, bh5)


BTW Buff and Techmasta i agree, you can't overclock a higher model processor as even high as a low one.. but sometimes.. ^_^''

[texuspete00]

lol... I was just about to post...He may have lofty expectations but we dont need to beat him over the head with the lower cpu thing.. probably knows.

[Techmasta]

Originally posted by Av3ng3r

I don't like to Vmod on new stuff because of the warranty..

lol, warranty. :shakes:

[Av3ng3r]

How hard is it to VMOD an ASUS P4C800 then ?

[Jupiler]

Originally posted by Av3ng3r
How hard is it to VMOD an ASUS P4C800 then ?

Pretty easy.

HERE (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13402)'s a guide.
The P4C800 (-E) is a very nice, fast and stable board. Many others will agree and recommend it.

[Av3ng3r]

I just read there are some fixed ABIT IC7-MAX3's which don't have the fluctation problem anymore...

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?threadid=30401

[Av3ng3r]

Does the ABIT AI7 also have a vdimm of 3,3v stock?? And if so , what are the disadvantages of that motherboard?

[st0nedpenguin]

The MAX3 newer revisions have the VDIMM problem fixed, but the lack of VTT is still there, so while you can go up to 3.2v, it still won't be stable.

The AI7 is good, but you really want a Canterwood board for a high performance rig.

[skate2snow]

The Vdimm mod is the easiest ever! I did it in like 5min. And the droop mod too, some people said it was hard, but its not harder then the Vdimm;).

I recommend OVER ALL other boards the P4's ASUS mobo(P4C800, P4P800, P4C800 dlx....), the only problem w/ those boards is the Vcore drop and the Vdimm, but the Vmods are so easy, so you dont really care;)