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zakelwe
02-18-2004, 03:59 PM
I'm very happy, the renewed interest in the MX440 on this forum made me have another crack and although I was just practicing for the cold air due in the UK on Friday I got past 12k

http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/score.JPG


People will always beat your score but hitting a new thousand for the first time can never be taken away, unless of course they hit the next 1000 :D

Glad to see I am outpointing people doing 3dmark03 tonight ..just. :)

Regards

Andy

althes
02-18-2004, 05:58 PM
Not bad at all, I will have to get into competition mode now.

Geforce4ti4200
02-18-2004, 06:16 PM
omg 12k on an mx440 is very sweet! so your v mod did work finally :D think theres any more left in her still ;)

SPQQKY
02-18-2004, 06:23 PM
Very nice indeed. Keep up the good work. I should be getting my Radeon 9000 Pro back this week. Plan to mod it and burn it up. Fun to bench these low end cards.

MrIcee
02-18-2004, 06:28 PM
Great job Andy:thumbsup:

Makes me want to give one of these puppies a try:)

Randi:D

Geforce4ti4200
02-18-2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by MrIcee
Great job Andy:thumbsup:

Makes me want to give one of these puppies a try:)

Randi:D


do that. also try your 9600xt again, youve been beat ;)

zakelwe
02-19-2004, 12:04 AM
Thanks for the kind words guys, I must say I got a lot of satisfaction from overclocking this fairly slow card, I think you will have a fun time with it Randi if you give it a go.


It's just a shame it can't do nature that would get the score up to 13500 or so I think.

Regards

Andy

Zeus
02-19-2004, 01:04 AM
Well done! :thumbsup:

r3b0rN
02-19-2004, 02:03 AM
zakelwe u are the mx 440 god :D nice work man, knew u could do it!

zakelwe
02-19-2004, 04:47 AM
Cheers :)

I'll revert back to the 5800 now for Friday and see if the cold air will help it's very hot RAM. I bought a digital thermometer the other day ( a cheap one normally used for measuring the temperature of cooking turkeys, Flukes were too much ) and the 5800 really is as hot as everyone says it is.

I think I should be able to do a 2440MHz run at 520/1070 which might just crack 23k.

Regards

Andy

Edward2
02-20-2004, 05:24 AM
Congratulations zakelwe!! That is quite an accomplishment with the MX440.

Dodgy-er Dave
03-09-2004, 03:10 AM
What model MX440 is it? i can get just under 10k with no mods and stock HSF. Here is my 3dmark2k1 link: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7301724

I have a Gainward 64mb MX440 and found this mx440 mod http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/NVIDIA/MX440VMod/

Im volt modding and adding better cooling to it soon as i wouldnt mind that 12k spot myself :) Any tips you could spare guys??

DD

zakelwe
03-09-2004, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
What model MX440 is it? i can get just under 10k with no mods and stock HSF. Here is my 3dmark2k1 link: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7301724

I have a Gainward 64mb MX440 and found this mx440 mod http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/NVIDIA/MX440VMod/

Im volt modding and adding better cooling to it soon as i wouldnt mind that 12k spot myself :) Any tips you could spare guys??

DD

Mines a Gainward as well with 3.3ns memory on it. You'll need 450/750 with an XP/nforce2 system I guess or about 400/700 with a more powerful P4 / AMD64 system.

They do like to be cool those chips.

Regards
Andy

r3b0rN
03-09-2004, 04:26 AM
AN MX 440 WITH 3.3NS MEM? ARGHHH!!!! mine didnt even have 4ns! and my fx 5200 has only 4ns! :(

Dodgy-er Dave
03-09-2004, 04:29 AM
Which guide did u use to vmod ur card?? the one i supplied?

Im trying to max out on air myself but the next LAN im going to is gonna see a vapo attached to it. Will see how far subzer0 temps take it then lol

Hmm im not too far behind in regards to mem but my GPU really suffers. 368 as opposed to 450. Need them mods done ASAP. I got the XP/nforce 2 system but my 3dmark url was when i couldn get 2.48Ghz. Ill have to get another go to break 10k without vmods

Cheers

DD

Geforce4ti4200
03-09-2004, 10:07 AM
how do you guys get such high speeds on your mx440? mine does 330/550 and I thought it was the best. 5ns ram too!


edit: some of your mx440s clock higher than my ti4200 at 340/700? :slobber: :banana: :eek: :toast: :confused:

Crankster
03-09-2004, 10:14 AM
Amazing job! 12k is nothing to sniff at! Especially with the vid-card you carry, insane clocks... Low-budget OCing roxx!

Dodgy-er Dave
03-09-2004, 11:45 AM
what model mx440 did you have Geforce4ti4200???? the gainwards are the best mx440's abr none. i know to people who had mx440s and they couldnt get 5k on better systems than me!!!

Quality stuff goes into Gainward and id buy another gainward card again if they can keep up with todays radeons etc.

Im goin for the 12024 crown. It will be mine hehehe with a lot of effort i bet. Anyone got any other volt mod guides other than this one http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/NVIDIA/MX440VMod/?

Thanks

DD

Rinsewand
03-09-2004, 11:48 AM
my leadtek gf mx440 maxed at 6k on a good day.

the next LAN should see dave with a decent competion here, as we're borrowing a few things for it ;-)

jmg823
03-09-2004, 12:01 PM
holy crap i cant even get 9,000! :(

r3b0rN
03-09-2004, 10:09 PM
geforce is yours can clock 550 and its 5ns and mine can only clock 500 (this was in pretty decent room temp too) i think mine would have to be worse than 5ns :mad:

zakelwe
03-09-2004, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
Which guide did u use to vmod ur card?? the one i supplied?

Im trying to max out on air myself but the next LAN im going to is gonna see a vapo attached to it. Will see how far subzer0 temps take it then lol

Hmm im not too far behind in regards to mem but my GPU really suffers. 368 as opposed to 450. Need them mods done ASAP. I got the XP/nforce 2 system but my 3dmark url was when i couldn get 2.48Ghz. Ill have to get another go to break 10k without vmods

Cheers

DD

I didn't use any guide, hence maybe why the gpu mod failed but the mem mod worked, hence 405/740 was my max.

Ah, I see some compeition coming along, shame my AMD64 is bust and the days are getting warmer in the UK for my air cooled card ..... however, I should have some improvements to my rig for this summer, sub zero chilled cooling while I sit with a beer and BBQ :D

good luck !

Regards

Andy

kommando
03-10-2004, 12:05 AM
Dude thats aweomse, i congrats you highly.

zakelwe
03-10-2004, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by kommando
Dude thats aweomse, i congrats you highly.

Get back to the OCAU DF thread where you beling :D

Regards

Cenuijmu

tomz
03-10-2004, 05:56 AM
i hopefully get mx440 with 3.3ns BGA ram that does 350/730MHz (maybe more) without vmods... but with athlon xp i think i cant beat 12k...

Geforce4ti4200
03-10-2004, 07:01 AM
mine has dual head capability but no clue on what model. the ram is hynix. How do you guys get 400MHz core? insane v mods? the core should be the same on any mx440! your higher clocks are worth like 1500 marks over mine! how can the mx440 overclock higher than ti4200s, why not use better stuff for ti4200s?


edit: 5ns ram comes 400MHz stock, 500MHz is nice, 550 is crazy! I had another mx440 that did 310/490 I think, resold it shortly after :mad:

Soulburner
03-10-2004, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
your higher clocks are worth like 1500 marks over mine!
Its worth more than that, because the system is so bottlenecked by the video card that the score won't increase much at all until the video is overclocked, then it will start scaling again.

jmg823
03-10-2004, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by r3b0rN
geforce is yours can clock 550 and its 5ns and mine can only clock 500 (this was in pretty decent room temp too) i think mine would have to be worse than 5ns :mad:

i have no idea what ns my card has but it maxes out at 543~545
so it probally has about 5ns right?

Geforce4ti4200
03-10-2004, 08:26 AM
yours could be 4ns, did it come stock at 400 or 500MHz

jmg823
03-10-2004, 09:29 AM
mem came stock at 405mhz

Mathias-K
03-10-2004, 02:34 PM
Damn...

I'm at 322/505 which gives me 8800, and anything higher will give me lower score...

What about flashing it to MX460 or MX480? : P

Dodgy-er Dave
03-11-2004, 05:56 AM
IM all up for some competition zakelwe. Gimme till the end of next week and ill see what i can do again. Goin away this weekend but i think during next week 10k without mods will be in the bag.

Only reason i stopped with the mx440 was coz i got the 9800pro. Not really done much benching with that lately either, hence the low score for that.

DD

zakelwe
03-11-2004, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
IM all up for some competition zakelwe. Gimme till the end of next week and ill see what i can do again. Goin away this weekend but i think during next week 10k without mods will be in the bag.

Only reason i stopped with the mx440 was coz i got the 9800pro. Not really done much benching with that lately either, hence the low score for that.

DD

10k is a nice figure to get it must be said with these cards, after that points seem to come very slowly.

Here's a picture of my card, seeing it is top I guess I should give it 15 minutes of fame, even if the gpu volt mod is fubarred.

Come out HellBinder, don't be shy....

http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/mx440.jpg


On a similar theme I see macci got his GF3 up to 14.7K .. not bad for something running 4ns memory :)

:toast:


Regards

Andy

Geforce4ti4200
03-11-2004, 01:57 PM
noticed that and its a ti200. He wasnt even running the ti200 in the same rig that got him 30k on a 9800xt either. and he wasnt using his prometeia casade. He could probably get 17k on his ti200

zakelwe
03-11-2004, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
noticed that and its a ti200. He wasnt even running the ti200 in the same rig that got him 30k on a 9800xt either. and he wasnt using his prometeia casade. He could probably get 17k on his ti200

I think the 4ns RAM would be a major stumbling block on getting much over 15k.

Regards

Andy

Dodgy-er Dave
03-11-2004, 02:42 PM
how did you attach your cooler to the card? Epoxy? ANd id shiver to see what macci and co. could get with a sweet mx440 like the gainwards.

Temps are a lot warmer now in the room so it looks like, the window is gonna be left open for a full 24hrs to get the room down to a low temp.

10k is gonna come without vmods somway, somehow :p

DD

r3b0rN
03-11-2004, 09:48 PM
yeah zakelwe i really want to know how uve got that cpu hsf onto the vc... i was going to do something similar with my old mx 440... might do it with fx 5200 if it dosnt involve any drilling of holes into vc.

zakelwe
03-11-2004, 10:38 PM
Yes, simple artic epoxy for it. I chose a mid range GlobalWin CAK as it is a fairly tight squeeze , with 7000rpm delta 38cfm .

If you leave the window open at the moment you'll have a room full of snow Dodgy :)

Regards

Andy

r3b0rN
03-11-2004, 10:58 PM
oh snow how i wish u were here! brisbane just had 2 weeks where minimum day temp was like 32 degrees celcius! :mad:

Dodgy-er Dave
03-12-2004, 02:02 AM
Tru i will have a room full of snow m8 but it will have some damn fine temps in there. :) how i wish i wasnt at werk now.

/me humms 'Ice Ice Baby'

I may be able to get hold of an akasa white moutain which is 60mm. think that could do the trick? a fudge it ill try anyway :p

32c??? id pass out m8. im of the milk bottle white legs type person as i live in sunny britland. I admit sharing a country with st0nedpenguin is hard work but some1 has to do it lol

DD

r3b0rN
03-12-2004, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
Tru i will have a room full of snow m8 but it will have some damn fine temps in there. :) how i wish i wasnt at werk now.

/me humms 'Ice Ice Baby'

I may be able to get hold of an akasa white moutain which is 60mm. think that could do the trick? a fudge it ill try anyway :p

32c??? id pass out m8. im of the milk bottle white legs type person as i live in sunny britland. I admit sharing a country with st0nedpenguin is hard work but some1 has to do it lol

DD

rofl :rotf:

im seriously moving to britain for a year just for overlclocking purpouses :p:

Geforce4ti4200
03-12-2004, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by zakelwe
I think the 4ns RAM would be a major stumbling block on getting much over 15k.

Regards

Andy

he was not using his fastest cpu for that run. also he didnt even use his casade. he could easily get over 300MHz core on his ti200 and his cpu to 3GHz for 17k

Dodgy-er Dave
03-12-2004, 04:08 AM
r3born we only get about 2 days of summer here and have flood warnings left right and centre, but every year we still have a hosepipe ban!! Figure that out lol

GF4, the ram will still be a big factor. With the cascaade, then yeah 15k will be accessible i think but 17k is quite a target!

DD

Geforce4ti4200
03-12-2004, 05:14 AM
his cpu was 2.5GHz for his ti200 run. 3GHz on the cpu would get him like 16200 marks. then he can clock his ti200 higher for 17k

r3b0rN
03-12-2004, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
r3born we only get about 2 days of summer here and have flood warnings left right and centre, but every year we still have a hosepipe ban!! Figure that out lol

haha that cracks me up :D crazy government :)

Dodgy-er Dave
03-12-2004, 06:28 AM
I think that once you reach a certain point on overclocking the processor then its going to make little difference to the overall 3dmark score due to the bottleneck at the card. obviously higher clocks on the cpu will provide higher results but the scaling will be a lot smaller.

If them GPU clocks can get up enough then id at the most push 16k but id say more like 15k.

The proof is in the benching really. If he ever gets round to benching the card at that speed, etc then we can find out. But imho i dont think 17k is acheivable atm on that card

DD

Dont get me started on our government r3born. :stick: theyre just useless lol :D

Geforce4ti4200
03-12-2004, 11:00 AM
well why dont we tell Macci this, if anyone has any chance at 17k on a ti200, its gonna be him, his 3GHz a64 and his casade prometeia ;)

zakelwe
03-13-2004, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
well why dont we tell Macci this, if anyone has any chance at 17k on a ti200, its gonna be him, his 3GHz a64 and his casade prometeia ;)

The video card is the bottle neck on these cards, so forget the 3GHz A64. To get 17k you would need a 350Mhz core and even with dual cascade I doubt that is possible.

You can't extrapolate as simply as you do as you do not take into account the law of diminishing returns with the actual hardware.

You have to take into account physics and simply not just use Windows calculator to multiple values by other values.

There is a time when volts and Celcius simply run out.

Regards

Andy

macci
03-13-2004, 08:24 AM
Congrats for the 12k Andy :toast:
That card looks aggressive :D

And 17k will be pretty much impossible w/ GF3 I think. 16k might be just possible but it is going to take high mem speed on the card (around 700MHz) - well and on GPU and CPU and RAM too of course :D
Lobby scores on GF3+a64 combo are very dependent on video mem speed for some reason.
I'm guessing that with a good gf3 something like 330/680 can be reached (my old ti500 did drago and nature at 315/687-702 with chilled coolant+172w pelt).

Geforce4ti4200
03-13-2004, 09:02 AM
There is no arguing with Macci :D do you still have that old ti500 of yours? Those are some most impressive clocks! Why dont we just see what Macci gets with his 3GHz a64 and prometeia casades? Did you v mod the cards and how much did it help? a v mod didnt help my ti500's 265 core any and it wasnt overheating either. I know cpu MHz does not scale linear but it helps netherless. Every bit of cpu, gpu, ram is needed for top score reguardless :D I find high fsb helps my lobby most

zakelwe
03-14-2004, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by macci
Congrats for the 12k Andy :toast:
That card looks aggressive :D

And 17k will be pretty much impossible w/ GF3 I think. 16k might be just possible but it is going to take high mem speed on the card (around 700MHz) - well and on GPU and CPU and RAM too of course :D
Lobby scores on GF3+a64 combo are very dependent on video mem speed for some reason.
I'm guessing that with a good gf3 something like 330/680 can be reached (my old ti500 did drago and nature at 315/687-702 with chilled coolant+172w pelt).

Thanks Macci, if only the vcore mod had worked. Might try again later in the year.

Regards

Andy

r3b0rN
03-14-2004, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
There is no arguing with Macci :D do you still have that old ti500 of yours? Those are some most impressive clocks! Why dont we just see what Macci gets with his 3GHz a64 and prometeia casades? Did you v mod the cards and how much did it help? a v mod didnt help my ti500's 265 core any and it wasnt overheating either. I know cpu MHz does not scale linear but it helps netherless. Every bit of cpu, gpu, ram is needed for top score reguardless :D I find high fsb helps my lobby most
thats if macci ever gets to benching with it. when your benching the way macci does alot of preparation/attention to detail/supervision goes into it, its quite alot of effort, and i dont expect him to do it... although if he does i will be 1 of the many pc enthusiasts out there watching!

paul007
03-14-2004, 10:30 AM
wow you guys are crazy wiht these cards. my max clocks are 360/550 and now there are 2 12k members on the orb and a ton of 11.5k+ scores..

does running an A64 rig really help that much wiht these cards?? I am running an AXP 2400+ and think I need to upgrade. :(

Dodgy-er Dave
03-15-2004, 01:58 AM
I wouldnt say an a64 gives that much benefit over a barton, etc because as mentioned in one of the above posts, the bottleneck is at the card. If you can get the gpu core up, then id say that the a64 will have more of an effect per Mhz on a 3dmark score over a barton. But i wouldnt say by much.

Zakelwe, if i pass ur score in a few weeks, leave it till very later in the year so i can basque in some glory for a while. Dont hog the lime-light lol :D

r3born,
although if he does i will be 1 of the many pc enthusiasts out there watching!

Ditto d00d, ditto

DD

zakelwe
03-15-2004, 05:20 AM
Well the score you will have to beat is now a very good 12 40 by MickeyMouse ( aka Jason ) so some way to go for all of us :)

I'll try the gpu mod again at some point, or else that card will never get up there.

Regards

Andy

Dodgy-er Dave
03-15-2004, 08:04 AM
Well with Air i dont think that will come for me but with a vapo, 13k looks like a possibility if i can keep that memory cool on the card.

Hmmm the competition is starting to hot up. Wonder if we could vapo that :p

DD

st0nedpenguin
03-15-2004, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
32c??? id pass out m8. im of the milk bottle white legs type person as i live in sunny britland. I admit sharing a country with st0nedpenguin is hard work but some1 has to do it lol

DD

Punishment will be dealt!

If I ever escape from the stupids at work that is, you guys think me and Dave are bad, you want to make contact with the British general public...

:D

Geforce4ti4200
03-15-2004, 09:24 AM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7658872

congras Jason! almost halfway to 13k! zakelwe, good luck with the core v mod! Jason does have a faster cpu too, his car chase and lobby scores are several fps above yours. can your video ram overclock any higher? Jason got his vmem to 770MHz which is totally insanely high! however, a good core v mod can get your core past Jason's 440MHz and core>ram and I speak from experience too. I gain 100 marks per 10MHz higher core clocks. Youd be about 12300 if you can get 440MHz core and match Jason at 460MHz core :banana: the mx440 competition has really heated up but no one has broken 15k on a ti200 nor ti500, would be perfect opporunity to see some 15k and even 16k scores. Oh and theres a bugged ti500 score now that needs to be removed :mad:

zakelwe
03-16-2004, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7658872



We'll see how it goes, won't give up trying with it, will continue to bench the card for the next year or so at least, with new cpu etc.

He got my 5700U score as well, which I also need to voltmod !

Regards

Andy

r3b0rN
03-16-2004, 02:32 AM
This is all very exciting! :D (gawd im a nerd :p: )
If i had the money id get a gainward golden sample mx 440 and wc the gpu... i want part of this! maybe when my mx 440 is repaired ill get back into the game, however my goal will be more like 9k, not 12.5k, lolz... Good on ya' Andy and Jason!

Dodgy-er Dave
03-16-2004, 05:14 AM
ahh its the takin part that counts, being on top is just a pleasant side effect :) And yes penguin i too have my gripe with the 'general public' theyre are stupid. A person is clever but people are moronically stupid.

Hmmm might see if i can grab me a copy of win2k this weekend to get those extra few hundred points i need :) The plot thickens........

DD

zakelwe
03-16-2004, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
ahh its the takin part that counts, being on top is just a pleasant side effect :) And yes penguin i too have my gripe with the 'general public' theyre are stupid. A person is clever but people are moronically stupid.

Hmmm might see if i can grab me a copy of win2k this weekend to get those extra few hundred points i need :) The plot thickens........

DD

Have you tried the 44.03 drivers yet Dodgy ?

Very true about the taking part that counts, if no-one ever beats your score then that means nobody is progressing the class, and where is the fun in that ? I did get 12k first, nobody can take that away, though 13k is looking pretty likely now at some point !

Regards

Andy

Dodgy-er Dave
03-16-2004, 06:59 AM
no i aint tried the 44.03 dets yet. Will give em a go this weekend tho. if i get 10k clean on my card ill be happy. 10.5k even happier :) But after that 13k beckons me lol. It wants me to beat it...........OK ill stop frothing at the mouth now

DD

Rinsewand
03-16-2004, 08:02 AM
*me hands dave a tissue* hmm, dave - you'll need windows 2k on the "other" rig too when you think about it...

Geforce4ti4200
03-16-2004, 08:21 AM
yea id keep all champ overclocking cards. people have sold their best cards in the past and regretted it too. also is anyone gonna try for the first guy to 15k on a ti200 or ti500? supprised no one did yet, I will break 15k on a ti200 or ti500 when I get an a64 but you have time before I do ;)

Dodgy-er Dave
03-16-2004, 09:21 AM
Yeah RwD m8. As i sed. might as well keep xp for normal ops. and another partition for benching with win2k. Might try win2k3 too. Never know could make that little difference that helps it allong the way :)

Im the same Geforce4 d00d. even if i nuke my mx440 with this vapo, im still gonna frame it. You get quite attached to the things and when one buys the farm.............you get a little teary *sniff*

DD

st0nedpenguin
03-16-2004, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
The plot thickens........

DD

Stir in a little red wine, should sort out any gloopiness.

Dodgy-er Dave
03-17-2004, 06:31 AM
i sed the PLOT thickens, not the SLOP thickens.

Remember how we sed the general public are bad??

*gives crafty look at penguin*

Evidence, my fellow humans, Evidence!

Anyway back on topic. The vmod for my card has just stepped up a gear. I know WHAT to do now so i just need to order the parts and a shed load of cooling. What would be best to cool the mem do you think?? Tweak monster ramsinks or sumink else??

DD

Rinsewand
03-17-2004, 08:12 AM
ramsinks and a 120 delta straight over them should do fine methinks...

Dodgy-er Dave
03-17-2004, 08:37 AM
/orders 120mm delta with stuff

Check

Anything else??

DD

Rinsewand
03-17-2004, 01:37 PM
interesting way to mount said delta?
or is this a "bluetacked to a box stodd next to the case with the panel off next to the sinks" jobbie?

zakelwe
03-17-2004, 11:43 PM
For cooling I'd use a Papst 6212n so then you do not need to mount it at all, just have it sitting next to the case. It will also cool your RAM and cpu.

http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/amd1.jpg


Regards

Andy

lalPOOO
03-18-2004, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Rinsewand
interesting way to mount said delta?
or is this a "bluetacked to a box stodd next to the case with the panel off next to the sinks" jobbie?

As long as you're not too worried about the way the heatsink is mounted (as I would be if I attached it with a thermal epoxy...) you could just hot glue it on.

Dodgy-er Dave
04-05-2004, 07:07 AM
Purchased some microcool chipsinks for use on my card but ive not managed to find a place to measure the voltage of the card yet. Any ideas guys??

DD

zakelwe
04-05-2004, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
Purchased some microcool chipsinks for use on my card but ive not managed to find a place to measure the voltage of the card yet. Any ideas guys??

DD

Do it blind do it blind ! :D

Live up to your name :) LOL

I'm patching up a freezer tonight with black gutter sealant so I can pour coolant straight in. Hopefully it will be waterproof or else I am going to be Dodgy-er Andy. I can see it being waterproof until it gets cold and brittle and I have 3 gallons of methanol based fluid all over my kitchen floor...

Regards

Andy

Dodgy-er Dave
04-06-2004, 03:07 AM
Fudge it ur right. bank holiday weekend is time for dodgy vmods.

/cue superman music and voice over

He will bravely attempt to gain the maximum possible score from his mx440 using air cooling and pure genius. Then once the kryptonite known as heat begins to win the battle, he will introduce a vapo to the card defeat the evil heat for good and prevail as mx440 champion.......

/record scratch and music stops

Thats if i dont blow the card of course!!

Oh and andy, dont freeze ur assets m8 ;)

DD

zakelwe
04-06-2004, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
Fudge it ur right. bank holiday weekend is time for dodgy vmods.

/cue superman music and voice over

He will bravely attempt to gain the maximum possible score from his mx440 using air cooling and pure genius. Then once the kryptonite known as heat begins to win the battle, he will introduce a vapo to the card defeat the evil heat for good and prevail as mx440 champion.......

/record scratch and music stops

Thats if i dont blow the card of course!!

Oh and andy, dont freeze ur assets m8 ;)

DD

I can just see you sitting there in your red underpants and cape ...

:)

Regards

Andy

Dodgy-er Dave
04-06-2004, 03:57 AM
Have you been going through my drawers?? :p

What i could do is mesaure all the caps and find out which is most likely to be the vmem and vgpu. Vgpu will be about 1.5v and vmem will be either 2.5 or 2.9 from what ive seen on the data sheet for that voltage regulator.

Would the card need to be in the rig and running while i measure the voltages??

/me puts glasses clark kent glasses back on incase i am recocgnised

DD

Dodgy-er Dave
04-06-2004, 04:08 AM
Another thread ive found here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32821) has some loverly diagrams to display.

Is that how i should wire my voltage regulator should be? (obviously relating to my own card)

DD

zakelwe
04-06-2004, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
Have you been going through my drawers?? :p

What i could do is mesaure all the caps and find out which is most likely to be the vmem and vgpu. Vgpu will be about 1.5v and vmem will be either 2.5 or 2.9 from what ive seen on the data sheet for that voltage regulator.

Would the card need to be in the rig and running while i measure the voltages??

/me puts glasses clark kent glasses back on incase i am recocgnised

DD

Yes it has to be running, watch out your cape doesn't get caught in the fan. :D

You could measure all if you have a steady hand, another way would be to solder on a cable and measure the end of the cable then you wont short anything. That will take a while though.

Regards

Andy

zakelwe
04-06-2004, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by Dodgy-er Dave
Another thread ive found here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32821) has some loverly diagrams to display.

Is that how i should wire my voltage regulator should be? (obviously relating to my own card)

DD

Does your Gainward even have that component on it ? I'm at work at the moment so it would be interesting if it has, I thought the other IC we talked about earlier did both memory and gpu, maybe it does not.

Will look at mine tonight when I get home.

Nice find if it is !

Now soulburner is Captain with sidekick, and you are superman, can I be your sidekick ?

I can see myself as Boy Modder ? Holy hot mosfets .

Regards

Andy

Dodgy-er Dave
04-06-2004, 07:55 AM
Thats from an MSI card my super sidekick chum!

I was demonstrating the way the pots have been soldered. I know u used ground from a molex but i wanted a more permanant solution for the cables. So i will solder to pin 3 (gnd) on the chip. Remember the gainwards IC are ISL5926b blah blah blah or sumink.

Disintegrating DIMM slots Boy Modder to the Dodgy Mobile!!!

dunna dunna dunna dunna dunna dunna dunna dunna.........

DD

gabbax
04-26-2004, 10:19 AM
Congrats for some good score(im a little bit late:D )

But can u recomend a good V-mod for these cards.? ive just fixed a Creative MX440 gef4, and just for the moment im running 350/607 stock 1cm cooler,no mods room temp air.10000+

Could be tricky to catch ypur 12k..but u never know:D

Gabbax

Geforce4ti4200
04-26-2004, 12:17 PM
with those clocks youd probably be closer to 11k. I get 9300 on 330/550 clocks. each 10MHz core increase gains me 100 marks. each 50MHz ram gains me 200 marks. 350/600 would get me 9700 marks on my cpu, youd be way ahead with an a64

gabbax
04-26-2004, 12:42 PM
10290+ @ 364/607 unmodded. and i do see the card just screeeeming for some DI... id say, after my V-mod and Container inst it propably do 400+/650 so @ 2700 300x9(yes 5:4) i said mid 11k. 12 ...na i do not think so, BUT u nerver know

zakelwe
04-26-2004, 01:27 PM
Just a little late ! but thanks :toast:

The DI will do well ,these are temp sensitive. A vmod to the core will do wonders in conjunction with dry ice as the 2001 score is gpu limited . 400+ is what is needed for gpu at least.

Regards

Andy

PS I'll get top score in this class if this is the last thing I do, I have still to recieve a thank you from Paul007

Geforce4ti4200
04-27-2004, 01:03 AM
some guy supposedly has a mx440 that does 400/680 not sure if he modded this nor if its stable in 3dmark, but if so, id so want to buy that. is it even possible to get that high air cooled

Henning-DK
04-27-2004, 01:22 AM
Hi.. just bumped in to this thread..
I've had an old MSI Geforce MX420, and clocket it to 340/549 just with air cooling.. I put a 40mm fan on it, and OC'et it with powerstrip.
OC'ed it to tha max in powerstrip, uninstalled pstrip and installed it again and kept on OC'ing.. my final was 340/549 but i downclocked it as I put it in my parents comp...

http://home.no/jackiechan15/oc1.jpg <-- the first attempt.. uninstalled pstrip right after the screendump..

http://home.no/jackiechan15/oc.jpg <-- my max OC with the MSI Geforce MX420 on air.

edit: I ran it on an old T-bird 1333 so we don't talk about the benchmarks.. ok.. ;) and I didn't do any mods to it... I have 10 thumbs, so I would probably melt the whoe card.. :(

Geforce4ti4200
04-27-2004, 01:41 AM
those are insanely high mx420 clocks. thats 275 on the ram. darn mine only does 183 :( do you want to sell or trade yours

Edward2
04-27-2004, 04:14 AM
My Asus MX440 does 405-411/675 with only a GPU mod. I never did do the memory mod. I was using water cooling on the GPU at the time.

r3b0rN
04-27-2004, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by Edward2
My Asus MX440 does 405-411/675 with only a GPU mod. I never did do the memory mod. I was using water cooling on the GPU at the time. this really is making my 330/499 card look like CRAP.

ErVaLt
04-27-2004, 08:38 AM
lo everybody:banana: :)

Here is my result:

9797

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7741642

385/710 - Vga with stock cooling and no vmod

system=XP/NF2 - 2325mhz

here some photos (brand=Triplex):
http://www.hwtweakers.net/files/direct/aaaa0011_1079957179.jpg
http://www.hwtweakers.net/files/direct/aaaa0008_1079957198.jpg
http://www.hwtweakers.net/files/direct/aaaa0009.jpg


Now whaiting a 64bit system;) :banana:

Geforce4ti4200
04-27-2004, 12:14 PM
those are nice ram ocs, is it bga? modded? is the pcb really silver? how much did those crazy ramsinks help

Geforce4ti4200
04-27-2004, 12:14 PM
those are nice ram ocs, is it bga? modded? is the pcb really silver? how much did those crazy ramsinks help

gabbax
04-27-2004, 12:19 PM
Well, my card is modded, and still using org :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:ty zink:D 391/648 @ 1.75/3.3 voltage, it gave me 11032 i Mark, with my A 3200+@ 2400..ive tested it @ 405 but freeze after a few sec..def a heat probb, soon some Ice on this one, and il get closer to 11500++


http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7788776

http://w1.825.telia.com/~u82509108/11032.JPG

ErVaLt
04-27-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
those are nice ram ocs, is it bga? modded? is the pcb really silver? how much did those crazy ramsinks help

yes yes.. they are bga with..no mods:)

The pcb is really silver:banana: :cool:

zakelwe
04-28-2004, 12:17 AM
Looks like ErVaLt and gabbax will both be increasing scores soon .

Gabbax, mine tops out at 405Mhz as well.

I have ordered an Abit KV8 Pro motherboard which should be here around 10th May. Shame my AMD64 is dead, awaiting 3700+ but nothing on the horizon yet :(

Regards

Andy

ErVaLt
04-28-2004, 05:30 AM
i've ordered a kv8 too:toast: :)

let see our score soon;)

gabbax
04-29-2004, 12:14 AM
My mems are stopping@ 648...but GPU still going strong, just water, and 398mhz(1.78)...Gonna put the TEC on that and i hope il get around 405-410

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7792432

new record for me...gonna be VERRY hard to get 12k, i be glad if i get 11500

Geforce4ti4200
04-29-2004, 09:24 PM
have you tried a different mx440? someone claims to have one that does 400/680 air cooled and possibily without mods. youd be able to get that one to like 480/750 clocks if not higher

gabbax
04-30-2004, 12:44 AM
A member @ ouer team, have a ASUS(org klocks on that monster are 305/570) MX440 wich are doing 394/724 no mods, just change zink and fan

I think he had the record before Mr Z and Mr MM 11997 ore something. but these cards are xtremly rare:(

root
04-30-2004, 05:31 AM
394/724 no mods, just change zink and fan
Wow !!! And if use some vmods and direct die for it...I suppose 13k wont be a problem.

Geforce4ti4200
04-30-2004, 01:49 PM
Give Oppainter that thing and wed be talking about 500/800 clocks and over 14k marks