Where should I be...9800pro & 2600+

[WesM63]

Hey guys,
Another age old question. I just installed my Saphire atlantis 9800pro with the 4.1cats and I'm hitting about 15,5K in 3d01. Stock cpu speeds, max ram timings and video card o/c some (sorry don't remember speeds).

Does this sound about right or should it be higher?

[sandman]

What clocks on the 9800?

It should probably be a bit higher, but it also depends on the ram timings and other things.

BTW, where at in NW Ohio are you?

[Karnivore]

Numbers are a bit low, my 2500+ and 9700P comes close to that.

[WesM63]

Sandman,
I don't remember exact clocks.. maybe 430/325? They might be high.

Ram timings are maxed and 3d01 was set to realtime.

BTW: Montpelier, Ohio... 1hr west of Toledo and 1hr east of Ft.Wayne, IN.

[sandman]

I'm by napoleon, in a little town called Liberty Center.

those clocks seems pretty low for a max overclock of a 9800.

[WesM63]

Sandman,
Yea I don't know if those clocks are accurate or not. This is all on stock cooling so I wasn't pushing it or anything.

OT: I know where LC is.. we played them in sports. Next time we have a lan party I'll hit you up if your interested.

[sandman]

If you aren't doing anything, could you give us a run at stock or at clocks that you know what they are.

It's hard to guage where you should be without knowing the clocks, and YGPM.

[WesM63]

sandman,
I'll pm you with more info on the next lan, right now we are developing a module for Neverwinter Nights.

But anyway, I just ran 3D01 and hit 15,877 with FSB set to 171 max timings, 3dmark set to realtime and a video card o/c of 432/360.

I think this card might have some potental but.. i need to strap on my w/c gear and get serious.

[sandman]

That fsb is hurting you the most right now, if you could get it up somewhere in the 220mhz range it would help quite a bit.

[WesM63]

Sandman,
Yea.. I only wish i could get it up there. I have a crappy rev 1.2 NF7 it barley does 190fsb on a 10x multi.

[Stang_Man]

give us a compare link please

[WesM63]

Stang_Man,
I didn't upload the score, I do have a screenie. Don't think that'll help ya thou. ;)

I'll re-run it for ya.

[WesM63]

here is this..

[Stang_Man]

picture = red x.

we need a compare link more, so we can see on a similar system where your points are lacking

[WesM63]

Stang_Man,
Ok.. I"m gonna re-run it and see if I can hit the same marks.

[WesM63]

Hmm, can't get the orb to take it..

EDIT: w00t! Took a bit but here ya go

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7571215

I upped the clocks and hit 16,030

[WesM63]

Any help?

[wimpie007]

server is down for maintenance, I'll check later...
(don't shoot me if I forget, got a LANparty coming up, I'm organising...)

[Stang_Man]

wes, they look pretty good, spot on for those clocks :)

[TheWeaseL]

I'd say CPU/FSB is holding you back the most there...With my 9700pro, I did 18,xxx @ 217x11.5, 393/330...2-3-2-6 timings. Granted that was with my Texture settings and everything maxed, execpt no AA and such.

[WesM63]

Thanks guys :D

Does Dual Channel make a diffrence, b/c I'm only running one stick of XMS PC-3200 pro. ;)

I'm gonna give 10x190FSB a go tonight. :D

[tennvols_69]

im running 221x12.5 and stock 9800p i get a lil over 19k you need to increase that fsb:)

[r3b0rN]

how much voltage should i give my cpu wen im running 220x10?

[tennvols_69]

it depends on the cpu im running 1.95vcore to get my clocks.

[WesM63]

Hmm, I get lower scores at 9x200.

But at 11.5x180 i get this : http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7577338

With NO o/c on the video card!

[WesM63]

Movin on up...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7577950

[benonmsn]

19k easy on air should be attained

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by benonmsn
19k easy on air should be attained
I don't think you looked at his specs.

[WesM63]

Yea lol... I really have no FSB. This rev1.2 NF7-S A2 stepping is crapping out around 190FSB. I have a rev2.0 comming so hopefully i'll be able to go a lil bit higher. I also just bought a barton 2500+ too (used, unlocked).


I should be able to get 17-18K with this rev2.0 and then with water and more clocks on the card.. maybe 19k.

[sandman]

Car chase is where you're hurting the most, see if you can get more total cpu mhz.

[WesM63]

I'll see what I can do tonight, open the windows and bump up the multi and let er rip.

BTW: Sandman... u goto college or hs?

[WesM63]

Well thats a bummer. :( I'm setting at 12.5x170FSB and it get 3/4 the way thru 3dmark and crashes out. Guess this chip just can't take anymore..

[sandman]

High School.

that sucks, well, it's a good gaming rig at any rate. :D

[WesM63]

Yea, I have a Rev2.0 NF7-S and a Barton 2500+ coming so hopefully they help. (Might buy one them mobile 2400+'s too)

High School was cool, now I goto Northwest state community college full-time (14credit hours) and work 40+hrs a week at Data Eclipse in bryan.

[benonmsn]

Originally posted by Soulburner
I don't think you looked at his specs.

maybe u didnt?


xp2600 +9800p...
10x220
460/280 or so = 19k


u dont need water on the gpu, any crappy old athlonXP , p4 cooler will work great! if u dont feel liek drilling, a vga silencer from arctic cooling will do, good enough for 470/390 on all of my 9800p's.

and for the cpu, a vantec aeroflow kept my 2500 @ 10x230 plenty cool for gaming 4hours at a time.

cpu 2300mhz @1.87
ram 230 @ whatever u need

stock voltage on card with a better cooler, u can do it man =) i have fiath in u

[WesM63]

benonmsn,
See the problem was my Rev1.2 NF7-S wouldn't do over 190FSB.

I installed the rev2.0 last night and its chugging along at 10.5x210, but I don't think the chip will be able to take much more.

I'll try the 2500+ when i get it this weekend.

[benonmsn]

well i did over 20k with 10 multi.. i think like 230fsb.. mine hated 10.5 and 11.. even 11 multi at 200fsb it would crap out..

[r3b0rN]

seems strange a motherboard that can run 3200's (which have 200fsb) cant get ur cpu running at 200... i blame it on ur cpu :D anwyays good luck with ur rev2.0, man get a mobile 2800+ if u can afford it..

[WesM63]

After the rev2.0 install I managed to do 9.5x225fsb. That was about max.

Or 12x190FSB, but the chip was pretty unstable. Need a new chip.