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Melkizedek
02-14-2004, 08:58 AM
EDIT: MACCI'S REVENGE ^_^;;;

THE HUNT IS OVER

sorry for the lack in updates (holiday :D)

1. 10008 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2113980) macci [www.akiba.fi] R9800XT+P4EE Muropaketin 3DMark03 Ranking :D :D :D :D

2. 9878 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2068578) OPPAINTER,,AMD FX-51 **Xtremesystems.org 3DTeam**

3. 9808 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2073722) FUGGER ** Xtremesystems 3DTeam ** 3.4EE :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


http://melkizedek.altervista.org/rank03h.gif


CONGRATULATION:toast: :toast::D

macci
02-14-2004, 11:56 AM
Whoa the new drivers are really that fast!?
Man I gotta rebench quickly and try 10k :D

isp
02-14-2004, 11:57 AM
Looks like the 3dmark dream team... ;) :hehe:

macci
02-14-2004, 12:04 PM
Looks like FUGGER has updated his Mark2001 and also broke the 30k barrier there :toast:

Fugger's 30.2k (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7556913)

JeffPH
02-14-2004, 12:04 PM
congrats guys well done!!! :)

LilGator
02-14-2004, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Melkizedek
OMG Fugger 9700 points with P4EE 3,4 (17 x 295?)and ATI 9800xt (621/466) + catalyst 4.2

17x295 = 5015 ?

macci
02-14-2004, 12:33 PM
I think that he is running w/ 15x multi

LilGator
02-14-2004, 12:38 PM
well that would make more sense :D

what drivers did you use for 9730 macci ?

macci
02-14-2004, 12:48 PM
The 3.9s (6396) which were the latest drivers available when I benched.
It seems that the new driver gets 100-150 marks extra.

sandman
02-14-2004, 01:08 PM
Go for it Macci, be the first to 10K.

:D

Stang_Man
02-14-2004, 01:50 PM
or 9900 :D

Soulburner
02-14-2004, 01:53 PM
Reminds me of when I had 19,994 3DMarks because of bad Car Low....being right on the edge sucks :D

charlie
02-14-2004, 03:08 PM
great work, guys...

FUGGER
02-14-2004, 03:37 PM
Thanks guys, I should have pushed a little harder but I was out of gas.

Yep we will see a 10K shortly.

sandman
02-14-2004, 03:45 PM
Insane scores, just insane.

Kanavit
02-14-2004, 05:58 PM
wow, just 30 pts separating! 10k, intel 1st

any chance of seeing Oppainter's 2k1 get taken down?

r3b0rN
02-14-2004, 06:31 PM
yeah and with opp working on a socket a setup we wont see him fighting back for a while.

Edogg
02-14-2004, 06:38 PM
congrats to everyone

captaincascade
02-14-2004, 09:30 PM
keep chasing that rainbow. maybe we should go check the orb.

Minnyboy
02-14-2004, 10:12 PM
Just when you thought the P4EE has the power the FX51 steps back up to the plate & regains the crown...:slobber:


64pts seperating the top 3

1st = 9764 = Oppainter
2nd = 9730 = macci
3rd = 9700 = fugger

who's gonna break that 10K first??
:eek:

Aldus
02-14-2004, 10:13 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2068110

OPP CC and AMD back on top. :toast:

r3b0rN
02-14-2004, 10:55 PM
CONGRATULATIONS OPP, Macci and Fugger, you 3 are true pc enthusiast gods.

ps: opp, thanks for keeping amd on top :D

nailbomb
02-14-2004, 11:43 PM
Cheers to everyone, oustanding stuff :)

kommando
02-14-2004, 11:59 PM
Damn you guys are great inspiration but you take away the other competition. Creative the aussie benching guy has now quit because he can't match your setups :(

Time for someone to step up, Eva2000, r3b0rn we gotta get some insane clocking happening.

macci
02-15-2004, 01:33 AM
keep chasing that rainbow. maybe we should go check the orb.
9800! :toast:

Looks like I really have to wake the cascade up. :D

Melkizedek
02-15-2004, 01:56 AM
Need to edit the the thread topic...

OPPAINTER [aka FX51 KING] REVENGE.

Superb job:toast: :toast: 9800:slobber: :eek:
http://melkizedek.altervista.org/rank03.gif

kommando
02-15-2004, 02:05 AM
lol 9800 and 9700, maadd.

OPPAINTER
02-15-2004, 02:28 AM
Enough damage for one night:D
I'm heading home, it's late down here in LA.

OPP:toast:

dim3z
02-15-2004, 03:08 AM
awesome work guys, 10k is surely going down by the end of the month

r3b0rN
02-15-2004, 04:40 AM
lets not make these wild guesses, it takes away from the actual achievment... lets just say 10k will be here soon, and it will be most likely done by one of these fine oc'ers. good luck opp, macci and fugger, let the benching begin! :D

S!1v3rB@cK_Dk
02-15-2004, 07:52 AM
My vote goes for macci, because he is from scandinavia.. Or what about Tom Holck, what is his score?

zakelwe
02-15-2004, 08:51 AM
Nice work guys :)

Congrats to FUGGER for the 30k especially.

That GT1 score of FUGGERS is excellent in 03, I wonder if it was the driver or the extra speed from the EE ?

If it is the driver then Macci has a good chance of trying to get #1 again.

I wonder why people like Creative and JC give up if they cannot be at the very top ? You can have fun ( maybe more fun without all that pressure ;) ) in the lower classes or just doing better than you did before. Oh well, JC and I am sure Creative are still helping people by trickling down their experience and skill.

Regards

Andy

Hobocrow
02-15-2004, 09:48 AM
Congrats, guys!! :toast: Those are some awesome scores. Do I hear Maccis' cascade running up! ;)

Guess us little ppl better get after it again.... :D

mg84
02-15-2004, 10:54 AM
great score to every body :toast:
we are waiting for 10k
:toast:

ctgilles
02-15-2004, 10:58 AM
Come on FUGGER and MACCI, take that AMD score down :hehe:

I'm sorry, I have a split personality, that was the EE fanboy speaking :D
Good job guys ;)

Soulburner
02-15-2004, 12:17 PM
Look at macci's clocks though....i'd say he's back on top soon ;).

zakelwe
02-15-2004, 12:55 PM
Macci's going for another attempt at it seemingly from the AMD side again if you check the AMD64 overclock thread in extreme overclocking .. new AMD64 chip that does over 3Ghz so depending on how far over 3Ghz it goes could be interesting

This is turning out to be like Forman v Ali, or perhaps more accurately Ali v Ali ( for fear of offending anyone :D )

I'm not counting FUGGER out either, everyones got cracking hardware at present.

Somebody's cascade is going to blow at this rate either taking out half the USA or half of Europe.....

Regards

Andy

captaincascade
02-15-2004, 01:49 PM
good thing i have back-up cascade systems:D

Kanavit
02-15-2004, 02:26 PM
Nice job Oppainter!! :eek: w o w

errmm, i thought AMD will never take 3d03 from intel. my pride is hurt.

FUGGER
02-15-2004, 02:39 PM
Not a problem. Huge video card clocks sererate us by 100points

captaincascade
02-15-2004, 02:47 PM
isnt that what the difference usually is between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd?

FUGGER
02-15-2004, 02:55 PM
card clocks no, points yes.

Ill try to get some runs in tonight

Kanavit
02-15-2004, 03:01 PM
G O FUGGER! U only have 621mhz on the XT atm, if you can somehow find 30mhz more , i think you can beat Oppainter's score.

Geforce4ti4200
02-15-2004, 04:18 PM
Macci may be able to edge Oppainter, this remains to be seen, but Oppainter does have the cpu edge though. Has Macci gotten a socket 939 mobo and 3700+ over 3GHz?

Melkizedek
02-15-2004, 04:19 PM
:up: :up: :up:

9839

:YIPPIE:

Melkizedek
02-15-2004, 04:25 PM
- 161 to 10000

jfr0
02-15-2004, 04:32 PM
WOW you guys are amazing.

Kanavit
02-15-2004, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Melkizedek
:up: :up: :up:

9839

:YIPPIE: Oppainter has really emerged this year. He has taken both 3dmark2k1 and 3dmark03 titles, and is extreme champion. congrats.:toast: :slobber:

Amazing what he has done.

FUGGER
02-15-2004, 05:06 PM
Moving up again, macci passed for the moment and we know he cant let that ride for too long.

I found some more card clocks.

pik-ard v1.1
02-15-2004, 05:37 PM
makes ya wonder what oppainter would get with the 4.2's... he's still using 4.1's. :p:

Geforce4ti4200
02-15-2004, 05:48 PM
wow fuggers at 9785 with lower clocks than Macci but he does have a faster cpu :D

pik-ard v1.1
02-15-2004, 07:33 PM
he also has newer drivers... and he is up to 9808 as of this post. ;)

Kanavit
02-15-2004, 08:06 PM
Fugger putting up a good fight now, lets see only 30 pts seperating the two. Catalyst 4.2 drivers are a good set too. For awhile, I thought that the EE's were safely ahead of FX in 3dmark03, but Oppainter really have something to prove.

r3b0rN
02-15-2004, 09:45 PM
opp, fugger and macci - u guys so freaky :slobber:
"there benchmark fighting!" lol

macci
02-15-2004, 11:09 PM
Great improvements there guys :toast:

Lets see if there is room for 10k :D

zakelwe
02-15-2004, 11:13 PM
Nice work FUGGER.

OPP, macci and FUGGER will all be checking the orb as soo as they get out of bed :)

I wonder if anyone will be able to get 10k before nv40 / r420 come out and move the game on yet again ? It will be difficult I guess, I think it will be a hard slog in 10's from here.

Has Captain Cascade or Chilly1 have anything colder being built at present ?

Regards

Andy

Melkizedek
02-16-2004, 02:03 AM
daily update...

http://melkizedek.altervista.org/rank03c.gif

OPPAINTER -161 (9839)

FUGGER -192 (9808)

MACCI -270 (9730)

Macci is waiting...

I'm quite sure that he can reach 9900 with new drivers...

kommando
02-16-2004, 02:12 AM
ooo 10 k gonna happen this time easy.

althes
02-16-2004, 05:56 PM
Just cant wait to see 10k

Geforce4ti4200
02-16-2004, 08:08 PM
macci is still behind, maybe he can get 9850 ;)

sandman
02-16-2004, 08:10 PM
Opp, are you really running a gig of ram in that system?

unrealneo
02-16-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by sandman
Opp, are you really running a gig of ram in that system?

he's running 2 x 512 Corsair RE AFAIK

it's only sold in 512MB sticks ;)

macci
02-17-2004, 09:55 AM
OPP at 9878 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2068578) now :D

Must do a 3dmark sessio ASAP. :D

Should give a decent score if I can get the card up to the clocks I had last year. I haven't used the card since the 9730 bench (thats almost 2months now).
I'm sure she'll do a nice run thou :)

Bennah
02-17-2004, 11:11 AM
Good luck to you all :toast:

And make the best man win...:p:

pik-ard v1.1
02-17-2004, 11:38 AM
im sure the cat 4.2's will give macci a good boost right there... ;) they seem to have helped everyone else out on 3dmark03.

though, OPP isnt using the 4.2's i think, he has the 4.1's last i checked.

macci
02-17-2004, 01:40 PM
All right got the 3dmark up and running :D

over 9.8k already, CPU at 4055MHz :D

sky
02-17-2004, 02:07 PM
go macci, go! :D

well then.. something that p!sses me off..
3d2k3
#1 12.760 doboy, r9800p @467/386, 170fps mother nature, yea right
#2 9.878 opp
#3 9.808 fugger
#4 9.730 macci - for the moment at least :D
#5 9.483 owned, r9600 @398/297, 146fps trolls lair, 19.6fps mother nature.. yea right

what the fack gives? isn't this doboy dork up there for a day now with his fake scores? and what about #5 - didn't bother looking further down there... can't these a**holes just keep hiding in their ratholes? bah.. anyone mind telling fm about these?

sorry had to release some pressure...

Melkizedek
02-17-2004, 03:25 PM
daily update
;)

http://melkizedek.altervista.org/rank03d.gif


Macci is still waiting :p:

OPPAINTER -122 (9878)

FUGGER -192 (9808)

MACCI -270 (9730)

macci
02-17-2004, 04:07 PM
Man you did that update a bit too soon :D

Check again in 10mins ;)

Melkizedek
02-17-2004, 04:16 PM
ready:comp10:

dim3z
02-17-2004, 04:16 PM
oooo here we go:) looks like maccis about to bring out the big guns :D, im of to check the orb...

Melkizedek
02-17-2004, 04:24 PM
http://melkizedek.altervista.org/rank03e.gif

big update!!!


OPPAINTER -122 (9878)

MACCI -122 (9878) ON TOP AGAIN

FUGGER -192 (9808)

:toast: :toast: :toast:

dim3z
02-17-2004, 04:25 PM
OOO macci just posted a score 98783dmarks, SAME AS OPPAINTER!!, but maccis only at 4065MHz, crank the CPU speed up n lets see some 10K goodness.

also i must say macci that is one hell of R9800XT 660/470:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: !!

FUGGER
02-17-2004, 04:30 PM
Ok ok, firing up my beast in a few minutes to join the fun.

Melkizedek
02-17-2004, 04:33 PM
:eek:
I REALLY NEED TO SLEEP
I'm italian... it's 1:34 AM

macci
02-17-2004, 04:36 PM
Hehe its 2:37AM here :D

Melkizedek
02-17-2004, 04:39 PM
you have an overclocked body:bows: :bows:
mine is "stock"... lol

FUGGER
02-17-2004, 04:47 PM
http://fugger.netfirms.com/9935.jpg

A huge jump in nature without that fade to black. Not sure why its happening but its happened a few times.

61fps nature

macci
02-17-2004, 04:48 PM
Too much mem clocks perhaps? :)

Good luck for your bench session. Im off to bed now :D

FUGGER
02-17-2004, 04:51 PM
It happened at lower mem clocks and I am at minimal tearing on
screen.

It just ends without the fade to black and gives score. I feel its a bug and wont post the score.

Have you seen this problem before?

macci
02-17-2004, 04:55 PM
Havent seen nature buggin on mine yet. It does it in mark2001 when too much mem clocks but not in mark03 so far.

Unless your running at 670/480 you wont see 60+ fps in nature without a bug of somekind.

FUGGER
02-17-2004, 04:57 PM
Yep, fade to black must be a seperate routine in the benchmark it to quit and still give score. My memory was at 459 iirc

Bennah
02-17-2004, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Melkizedek
http://melkizedek.altervista.org/rank03e.gif

Thats plainly insane, same score and with only 4GHz cpu speed.

I just camt my head around how you peeps can improve your score like that. Have a top score then someone beats it. Then your another run and there you go, a top score again.

This is intresting to watch!

BTW, macci why dont you get a FX? And go for top in 01?

OPPAINTER
02-17-2004, 05:16 PM
Macci,

Nice score my friend. Gotta love those numbers:D

OPP

Colin
02-17-2004, 05:41 PM
Wow this is pretty exciting to watch... It's nice to see you guys encourage each other, shows a great deal of sportsmanship! Keep up the great work guys!

Geforce4ti4200
02-17-2004, 06:10 PM
"OOO macci just posted a score 98783dmarks, SAME AS OPPAINTER!!, but maccis only at 4065MHz, crank the CPU speed up n lets see some 10K goodness."


3dmark 2003 doesnt really care about cpu speed but yea if Macci can get his cpu stable any higher clocks he just might do 9900 marks :D not much but enough to be #1

Kanavit
02-17-2004, 06:35 PM
Great Job fellas! Man , I would love to see 60fps nature in 3dmark03 on my system. Wow, it seems Fugger has gotten a pretty high score , but a bugged run which is too bad.

my 3dmark03 score increased from 3649 to 3798 pts. stock, when i upgraded just the cpu from 2.4 to 2.8ghz. So cpu speed can be a factor too.

Soulburner
02-17-2004, 06:51 PM
CPU speed only plays a large role when it is your bottleneck.

For example, when I overclock my CPU from 2400 to 3200 my score increases fro 6,600 to 7,100 - a 500 point increase. Obviously I was overpowered in the video area and underpowered in the system area.

Otherwise it doesn't make as much of a difference.

Geforce4ti4200
02-17-2004, 07:59 PM
Then I hope macci is able to get his p4 past 4050MHz, like 4.3GHz would be sweet :D

captaincascade
02-17-2004, 08:45 PM
my god!

oc-rookie
02-17-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
Then I hope macci is able to get his p4 past 4050MHz, like 4.3GHz would be sweet :D

Why does 3dmark read clock speeds incorrectly? It reads the FSB right and no matter what 1:1 5:4 3:2 it is always posts lower than the actual clock speed.

Mad scores guys!!!! I think a great bon voyage to the R360's will be the 10k mark by all 3 overclocking madmen!!!

Soulburner
02-17-2004, 10:58 PM
It reads mine correctly...

zakelwe
02-17-2004, 11:25 PM
Hopefully FUGGER can sort his bug out.


When are you benching 3dmark01 macci ? Nice video card clocks.

With r420/nv40 maybe they'll be powerful enough with their new shaders to start showing cpu effects in GT2-4 ?

Regards

Andy

Kanavit
02-18-2004, 12:28 AM
It looks like Macci has got back on top!

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ka/kanavitc/macci.JPG

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2083510

mg84
02-18-2004, 12:30 AM
update
http://mg84.altervista.org/immagini/PC/3d2k3.gif

dim3z
02-18-2004, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
"OOO macci just posted a score 98783dmarks, SAME AS OPPAINTER!!, but maccis only at 4065MHz, crank the CPU speed up n lets see some 10K goodness."


3dmark 2003 doesnt really care about cpu speed but yea if Macci can get his cpu stable any higher clocks he just might do 9900 marks :D not much but enough to be #1

yeh i know dude, but if he can run his EE at like 4.3G-4.4Hz then that will be enough to get him 10K for sure, 3dmark 03 is pretty damn ignorant of CPU speed, but not THAT ignorant

Melkizedek
02-18-2004, 01:25 AM
:up:

good morning...

hi mg84 :D

waiting for the next update...

mg84
02-18-2004, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by Melkizedek
:up:

good morning...

hi mg84 :D

waiting for the next update...

:D

kommando
02-18-2004, 01:43 AM
Go macci go, go macci go.

All i will say, good competition.

Geforce4ti4200
02-18-2004, 01:43 AM
wow Macci could make history! 4.1GHz and 77 more marks to go! another couple hundred MHz on the cpu and 10k is his!!!!!!!! I think he can do it, lets find out!

r3b0rN
02-18-2004, 02:14 AM
so intense, im loving it! :D congrats macci, on taking the lead... CMON OPP MAKE AMD FIRST TO HIT THE 10K BARRIER.

Zeus
02-18-2004, 02:47 AM
Why is none of them using a 5900/5950u with Vmods and some exotic cooling?

I thought these cards did even better than the 9800XT in '03?

Or am i mistaken?

Minnyboy
02-18-2004, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by Zeus
Why is none of them using a 5900/5950u with Vmods and some exotic cooling?

I thought these cards did even better than the 9800XT in '03?

Or am i mistaken?

What's the drivers Futuremark approve for the 5950 ultra's?
I think they're still 52.16 iirc.

/me thinks you're mistaken:D

Zeus
02-18-2004, 03:10 AM
Sorry, i'm not really into 2003, but what's wrong with the 52.16 drivers then?

kommando
02-18-2004, 03:20 AM
Damn school, i wanna stay up and see what happens.

sms me on 04230.... naaaah.

Minnyboy
02-18-2004, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by Zeus
Sorry, i'm not really into 2003, but what's wrong with the 52.16 drivers then?
Off Topic: The 52.16 drivers have had their 3DMark03 enhancements taken from them in the updated version 3.40.
The drivers after them have those enhancements re-instated which Futuremark are calling "cheats".
In other words, Futuremark just couldn't be stuffed releasing an update everytime nVidia release a driver update.
Whereas ATI have followed Futuremarks request of not "cheating", that's why ATI's drivers from 3.9-4.2 are support/approved.
Not really into 3DMark03 either, just remember seeing some websites posting results for 2003 with 53.-- forceware being asked to take them down or re-test them with Futuremark approved drivers....
Seems like nVidia can't help themselves, gotta be no#1 no matter what.

On Topic: I can see 10K being taken down within the next week.

/ponders why Oppainter hasn't used Cat 4.2's yet.
/thinks that 4.2 is Opps's secret weapon to break 10k!
/thinks Macci can get those CPU clocks up to take the title for "first to 10K!"

/enough of thinking!!

kommando
02-18-2004, 03:29 AM
Macci just needs a few hundred mhz's and hes there. But to be hoenst i'd rather see an amd cpu get there first.

paul007
02-18-2004, 03:44 AM
AMD wont beat INTEL in 2k3 IMO. Ive watched the futuremark ORB for months and INTEL has always had a slight advantage there..

I look at my 3700 with a 9500 and cry, lol.

Bennah
02-18-2004, 03:58 AM
Come on macci you can do it bro :toast:

Stang_Man
02-18-2004, 04:31 AM
just a little bit more :)

QuadDamage
02-18-2004, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by kommando
Macci just needs a few hundred mhz's and hes there. But to be hoenst i'd rather see an amd cpu get there first.

it's not about Intel or AMD, it's about WinXP and Win2k. 3D'03 runs better WinXP and so does Intel.

Great scores guys:)

Zeus
02-18-2004, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by Minnyboy
Off Topic: The 52.16 drivers have had their 3DMark03 enhancements taken from them in the updated version 3.40.
The drivers after them have those enhancements re-instated which Futuremark are calling "cheats".
In other words, Futuremark just couldn't be stuffed releasing an update everytime nVidia release a driver update.
Whereas ATI have followed Futuremarks request of not "cheating", that's why ATI's drivers from 3.9-4.2 are support/approved.
Not really into 3DMark03 either, just remember seeing some websites posting results for 2003 with 53.-- forceware being asked to take them down or re-test them with Futuremark approved drivers....
Seems like nVidia can't help themselves, gotta be no#1 no matter what.

On Topic: I can see 10K being taken down within the next week.

/ponders why Oppainter hasn't used Cat 4.2's yet.
/thinks that 4.2 is Opps's secret weapon to break 10k!
/thinks Macci can get those CPU clocks up to take the title for "first to 10K!"

/enough of thinking!!

Sorry for going off topic but thanks for the info... :am:

Soulburner
02-18-2004, 06:26 AM
IIRC macci was also the first to 10k in 01.....lets see if history can repeat itself. I think it can :D.

Bennah
02-18-2004, 06:33 AM
As he is making headway in 03, he should be doing 01 aswell. Improving his 01 score that is, or he could be just letting us all wait then out of the blue and good score comes. I doubt that it would beat the FX though, thats one hard ass s.o.b. :eek:

zakelwe
02-18-2004, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by QuadDamage
it's not about Intel or AMD, it's about WinXP and Win2k. 3D'03 runs better WinXP and so does Intel.

Great scores guys:)

How come everyone isn't running WinXP then ?

I'm puzzled !

Regards

Andy

Stang_Man
02-18-2004, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by zakelwe
How come everyone isn't running WinXP then ?

I'm puzzled !

Regards

Andy

maybe cause the AMD does better with 2000.

i really think OPP should try the AMD a64 with XP on 3d03.

zakelwe
02-18-2004, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by Stang_Man
maybe cause the AMD does better with 2000.

i really think OPP should try the AMD a64 with XP on 3d03.



IF AMD does better on 2000 then it is about the cpu and not just the OS ......

maybe Quad is right and WINXP is faster for everything. Though most people run who run AMD also run Win 2k still on the front page.

Regards

Andy

macci
02-18-2004, 07:12 AM
The hunt is on again :D

34 to go at the moment..

Bennah
02-18-2004, 07:21 AM
:slobber: :eek:

Keep goin :toast:

zakelwe
02-18-2004, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by macci
The hunt is on again :D

34 to go at the moment..

:toast:

You're not going stop just under again like your AMD64 3200 29999.999 score are you , just for Opp to nip in and bag it !.. that would be too much ..you'd explode! :D

Regards

Andy

macci
02-18-2004, 07:24 AM
33 to go :D

Stang_Man
02-18-2004, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by macci
33 to go :D

lol, poiint by point.

Kanavit
02-18-2004, 08:05 AM
Currently with 2 laps to go, Macci is in a lead by 1min, Oppainter is 2nd place, with Fugger lurking close behind in 3rd. Who will win the XtremeSystem race! Macci & Fugger are using 32-bit engine, while Oppainter's machine is 32/64bit power! It will be a close finish. Macci & Fugger both using Cat 4.2s, while Oppainter's is running with Cat 4.1s.

OPPAINTER
02-18-2004, 08:34 AM
Outstanding Macci:toast:

And they said that 10k couldn't be done with our current hardware.

Take down 10k my man,,, before I do it:D

OPP

mg84
02-18-2004, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by macci
33 to go :D
:toast:

Bennah
02-18-2004, 09:10 AM
Ive been checking ORB all day, no sign of the 10K mark yet but its just around the corner.

Thats intresting OPP is'nt it. People were saying that 10K couldnt be broken with current hardware. They were presuming that it couldnt be done because the scores were at 9.7K for long enough but now its only 33 marks to go.

:toast:

macci
02-18-2004, 09:46 AM
a bridge on the card exploded (!) during a 3dmark run (it was 20secs from the end of nature at 4505/657/471) :D

fixed the card and the hunt continues :D

PTK
02-18-2004, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by macci
fixed the card and the hunt continues :D

Thats the spirit. Cards blowing up but he continues.

That effort deserves a 10k.

PTK

captaincascade
02-18-2004, 10:05 AM
my hats off to you macci, you are truely a master of your trade. Unless op can do 10k with -40c, he wont get there.

As i was walking into my shop i noticed a strange shadow on the ground, so i looked up. And there was my three stage, up on the roof. I knew what it wa doing, it talked about it all the time. See, things just havent been the same for it since i added a compressor. The new compressor just didnt fit in, and well, the three of them just drove eachother mad....
oh yes, i knew exactly what it was doing....
but there wasnt enough time... I yelled "NOO please not yet".. right as i said that, she looked at me. Closed her eyes, and just let go. i ran to her but.....She was pronounced a peice of crap that didnt work at aproxomatly 6pm 2-17-04

maybe if id spent more time on her design....
more time
i just wanted more time

Bennah
02-18-2004, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by macci
a bridge on the card exploded (!) during a 3dmark run (it was 20secs from the end of nature at 4505/657/471) :D

You sure u was'nt going to break 10.5K with that run :D Now that is what you call extreme... ;)

zakelwe
02-18-2004, 11:50 AM
I told you people would start blowing things up, such is the competition, though Europe and USA are still safe one video card and one extreme cascade seem to have had " unhappy " endings as Copyman would say.

Looks like macci managed to make an unhappy ending happy again and so has a clear run now if his soldered together card can stand the pace. Macci, that is a nice card, be careful, don't go beyond manufacturers recommended voltage :D

CC, now for something really cool in time for r420 ? Opps will put it to the best of use I am sure, he is Mr Predictable, Mr Predicatably Good ;)

I was going to test 4 sticks of bh-5 tonight to se how they would go , but this is more exciting, might just browse the forum.

When 3dmark03 was released Worm said that people would be lucky to get 5000. 1 Year later we have this. Excellent progress.

Regards

Andy

captaincascade
02-18-2004, 12:16 PM
i thought that was funny. oh well

QuadDamage
02-18-2004, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by zakelwe
IF AMD does better on 2000 then it is about the cpu and not just the OS ......

maybe Quad is right and WINXP is faster for everything. Though most people run who run AMD also run Win 2k still on the front page.

Regards

Andy

not exactly. AMD is faster in Win2k and Intel is faster, way faster in WinXP, but the real problem is 3D'03 is optimised for WinXP, Intel's favourite:)

Soulburner
02-18-2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by QuadDamage
not exactly. AMD is faster in Win2k and Intel is faster, way faster in WinXP, but the real problem is 3D'03 is optimised for WinXP, Intel's favourite:)
I'm not so sure about that QD.

If you look at the compares, OPP has a higher GT1 score even with the lower overall score:

macci/OPP

341.3/343.5
66.8/66.5
57.5/57
58.1/57.5

Then again macci doesn't have his CPU at max. 3DMark says 4106mhz. But the point remains that OPP has more system power at the same overall score.

Geforce4ti4200
02-18-2004, 01:31 PM
"Then again macci doesn't have his CPU at max"


His old p4ee overclocked better too. Maybe if he swaps cpus and puts his old one back in or something ;)

Soulburner
02-18-2004, 01:33 PM
No it didn't. He can bench 3DM01 at 45xx mhz with his current one.

Geforce4ti4200
02-18-2004, 01:48 PM
maybe his cooling cant make it cold enough or his cpu is no longer stable at that high clock? Id imagine he would have had it at 4.5GHz by now if he could

FUGGER
02-18-2004, 02:04 PM
346.6 in GT1 on my rig, didnt get any runs in yesterday and shut down early.

Great job macci, GL on 10K Ill be lucky to hit 9.9k

Melkizedek
02-18-2004, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by macci
a bridge on the card exploded (!) during a 3dmark run (it was 20secs from the end of nature at 4505/657/471) :D

fixed the card and the hunt continues :D

:doh: :doh: :doh:

can u post a pic? lol

how many mod have u made?

- 33 wow

macci
02-18-2004, 03:15 PM
Melkizedek, Yea I have a macro shot of the dang part that exploded :D

Still at 9967. that one was at 4434MHz (246x18 1:1) 654/471.
The CPU will do the bench at 4524MHz (251.3x18 1:1) now. Good card clocks at that speed should do the trick.

sandman
02-18-2004, 03:30 PM
Good luck macci, I wanna see how the card exploded.

Melkizedek
02-18-2004, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by macci
Melkizedek, Yea I have a macro shot of the dang part that exploded :D

Still at 9967. that one was at 4434MHz (246x18 1:1) 654/471.
The CPU will do the bench at 4524MHz (251.3x18 1:1) now. Good card clocks at that speed should do the trick.

let the ES release the POWER:devil:

one session with another MB 15 x 300mhz (FSB 5:4)is possible?

Soulburner
02-18-2004, 03:38 PM
250x18 1:1 2-2-2-5 has proven to be a little faster than 300x15 5:4 2-2-2-5 I think...

unrealneo
02-18-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Soulburner
250x18 1:1 2-2-2-5 has proven to be a little faster than 300x15 5:4 2-2-2-5 I think...

that's a no brainer :)

macci
02-18-2004, 04:19 PM
Yup 250 1:1 is faster than 310 5:4

Soulburner
02-18-2004, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by unrealneo
that's a no brainer :)
It's not really, because it looks like the high FSB would be king but in testing it really isn't.

Most people don't know this...I wouldn't call it a no-brainer...

Stang_Man
02-18-2004, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by macci
Yup 250 1:1 is faster than 310 5:4

every time i see "last post by macci", i anticipate just a few points away from 10k..

i think you already did 10k... i think you're brewing up 10100:)

Geforce4ti4200
02-18-2004, 04:27 PM
heh who knows, but Macci just got his cpu to 4.4GHz so maybe that did it for 10k :D

QuadDamage
02-18-2004, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Soulburner
I'm not so sure about that QD.

If you look at the compares, OPP has a higher GT1 score even with the lower overall score:

macci/OPP

341.3/343.5
66.8/66.5
57.5/57
58.1/57.5

Then again macci doesn't have his CPU at max. 3DMark says 4106mhz. But the point remains that OPP has more system power at the same overall score.

:rolleyes:

OPP's faster in 3DMark2001 right? why because his chip is more powerfull. So why does OPP lose in '03 even though his chip's faster? WinXP maybe?
I don't know the vid clocks OPP had on his card though. Anyways let's not crap this thread.


Awesome score macci, you know you can't give up now:toast:

charlie
02-18-2004, 04:37 PM
But how about this
15 x 250 1:1 = 3750
15 x 300 5:4 = 4500

Is someone trying to say 3750 can be faster than 4500 ?????

C

Stang_Man
02-18-2004, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by charlie
But how about this
15 x 250 1:1 = 3750
15 x 300 5:4 = 4500

Is someone trying to say 3750 can be faster than 4500 ?????

C

nope. 4500 will kill 3750.

QuadDamage
02-18-2004, 04:49 PM
of course. it's 750mhz we're talking about.

althes
02-18-2004, 05:12 PM
just hit 10k someone please:D

Bennah
02-18-2004, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by charlie
But how about this
15 x 250 1:1 = 3750
15 x 300 5:4 = 4500

Is someone trying to say 3750 can be faster than 4500 ?????

C

Nope...

18x250 1:1 is faster than 15x300 5:4 ;)

charlie
02-18-2004, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Bennah
Nope...

18x250 1:1 is faster than 15x300 5:4 ;)

Well, of course :rolleyes:

But since most peeps have P4 CPU with 1 multi....
let's say a 2.8... if you have very good BH-5 and can run 270 1:1 for 3780mHz. Now the CPU is not at it's limit. Let's push the CPU farther to 295 or 4130mHz 5:4 or 236mem speed, of course in practice the 5:4 is faster. P4 1:1 benching is totally irrelevant (except if you have 18X ES like Macci) because the CPU's are capable of more raw speed.
The 4130 5:4 will be speedier than 3780 1:1 all day long.

C

unrealneo
02-18-2004, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by charlie
Well, of course :rolleyes:

But since most peeps have P4 CPU with 1 multi....
let's say a 2.8... if you have very good BH-5 and can run 270 1:1 for 3780mHz. Now the CPU is not at it's limit. Let's push the CPU farther to 295 or 4130mHz 5:4 or 236mem speed, of course in practice the 5:4 is faster. P4 1:1 benching is totally irrelevant (except if you have 18X ES like Macci) because the CPU's are capable of more raw speed.
The 4130 5:4 will be speedier than 3780 1:1 all day long.

C

we know, what you said has no relevance to what anyone said, however. :) (although true)

Soulburner
02-18-2004, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by QuadDamage
:rolleyes:

OPP's faster in 3DMark2001 right? why because his chip is more powerfull. So why does OPP lose in '03 even though his chip's faster? WinXP maybe?
I don't know the vid clocks OPP had on his card though. Anyways let's not crap this thread.
Who's crapping this thread, and why are you rolling your eyes?

We are having a discussion...what's wrong with that?

You realize what i'm saying is, I don't think OPP has a disadvantage because of running Win2k. His GT1 score is higher even though the rest are lower (because of lower card clocks).

GT1 is much more CPU dependant. That shows its chugging along just fine...IMO if he had macci's clocks he would be pulling at LEAST the same or higher score.

Stang_Man
02-18-2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by unrealneo
we know, what you said has no relevance to what anyone said, however. :) (although true)

yes it did....one guy said one thing, another said something different... and blah.

in orian's computer, running 3.9Ghz 3:2, 325FSB was faster in 3d01 than 3.5GHz 5:4 (not sure on the fsb on that one...)

zakelwe
02-18-2004, 11:18 PM
Is it only me or is 3dmark03 search facility really really slow at the moment ? I've done a search on XT9800 and macci's score is 9923 ..is this the latest, i thought it was closer to 10k than that ?

If I do a search on all it just times out.

I'm surprised that 5:4 is so much of a hindrence that 50MHz FSb still does not get it above 1:1, good to know though.

I know what Charlie is saying, with a locked multiplier you just have to bite the bullet and 1:1 will be the first thing to go so that the cpu is not speed capped artificially.

I've been thinking the same thing about AMD64, at present I have a VIA Abit board that does not like clockgen so it runs at 240x10 or so 1:1. If I moved over to the nforce3 Gigabyte K8N that is still sitting on the shelf and run it 300x8 6:5 would the 6:5 and slightly slower nforce3 chipset mean it is not much quicker ?

Regards

Andy

Hallowed
02-19-2004, 12:44 AM
Soulburner, let me explain it.

XP gives better GPU scores in 03' than 2K, even at the same clocks. GT1 will favor 2K, as its mostly all system.

So basically the question is do you run XP on the AMD and lose system power for better clocks, or get the GT1 boost with 2K and suffer a few tenths of a frame in the latter tests? Intel works best on XP so it has that first advantage.

Sucks about OPP's lack of cooling. Its a 2-man race now. :(

macci
02-19-2004, 02:57 AM
zakelwe, I havent uploaded any new results to the ORB yet. the 9967 run is still on my bench HDD.
Have to try the 10k again later today.

zakelwe
02-19-2004, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by macci
zakelwe, I havent uploaded any new results to the ORB yet. the 9967 run is still on my bench HDD.
Have to try the 10k again later today.

Ok, starting to lose track of what is going on , so much is happening.

have to agree with Hallowed, shame Opp is seemingly out, must be frustrating if you can't bench with a chance of getting the title back. Maybe CC and Opp have a good plan B. FUGGER being quiet again maybe a new run soon.

Good luck macci.



Regards

Andy

macci
02-19-2004, 04:34 AM
OPP's faster in 3DMark2001 right? why because his chip is more powerfull.
It has nothing to do with card clocks? :D
If you take the total FPS number from car hi and lobbys you'll see that P4 EE ES and FX are pretty much equal on that one too.

A64 at 11x275 1:1 2-2-2-5-8-16 (it runs SuperPi 8M at that speed) should come quite close to EE and FX thou.. ;)

nailbomb
02-19-2004, 05:44 AM
Some just pop the cap allready :)

Kanavit
02-19-2004, 07:27 AM
I wouldn't discount Oppainter just yet. He still might have a few more pts up his sleeve. I think Macci is wise to wait and see what his challengers are going to do next. 10K will be broken, but Fugger and Oppainter will have to push Macci to get it.

nailbomb
02-19-2004, 07:39 AM
I wouldn't discount Oppainter just yet.

I didn't know anybody was? I'd be glad to see any of the three get it.

I think Macci is wise to wait and see what his challengers are going to do next.

What a nonsensical statementthat is. He should wait for the other guys, to see what they do, and possibly pop 10k? ;) He should just go for it, they all should.

Sheesh man.....errr...ummmm.....jah ;)

"You're almost at the top of Mt. Everest, but I think you should wait to see what the other guys are gonna do"

;)

Soulburner
02-19-2004, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Kanavit
I wouldn't discount Oppainter just yet. He still might have a few more pts up his sleeve.
His Cascade is dead. Unless he gets new one built, like today, he isn't going to be in the race for 10k im afraid :(.

Macci was first to 10k in 3DMark2001...and its looking like he will be in 2003 as well.

Hallowed
02-19-2004, 01:44 PM
Heh, I can imagine CC working doubletime trying to get a new cascade rolling...

Its nearly an endurance race, first to 10k, and times running out for two teams here. :stick:

If the 4.2's are 150 points over the 4.1's then OPP would have it, too. :(

QuadDamage
02-20-2004, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by macci
It has nothing to do with card clocks? :D
If you take the total FPS number from car hi and lobbys you'll see that P4 EE ES and FX are pretty much equal on that one too.

A64 at 11x275 1:1 2-2-2-5-8-16 (it runs SuperPi 8M at that speed) should come quite close to EE and FX thou.. ;)

i didn't say card clocks are not important, i said i didn't know what clocks OPP runs his at.
Also macci, i wasn't talking about A64, timings and superpi, i was stating FX-51 is simply the most powerful 3D chip and EE wins in '03 only because '03 is optimised for WinXP that's it.

OPPAINTER
02-20-2004, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by QuadDamage
i was stating FX-51 is simply the most powerful 3D chip and EE wins in '03 only because '03 is optimised for WinXP that's it.

I have to agree:toast:

OPP

macci
02-20-2004, 12:12 PM
can u post a pic? lol

Here it is:

http://www.akiba-pc.com/broken.jpg

It was not designed for 657MHz 2.28V :D

Stang_Man
02-20-2004, 12:17 PM
damn, this 10k race seemed a lot longer than most had expected :p:

unrealneo
02-20-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by macci
Here it is:


damn macci, saw that and almost had a heart attack. (before pic came up)

I thought you'd done it! :D

macci
02-20-2004, 12:34 PM
This hardware doesn't want to go to 10k very easily it seems. I've got 9962, 9965, 9966 and 9967 now - all with different GPU/RAM/CPU clocks... :brick:

The card has taken insane amount of punishment and it still keeps on going :D I'm sure she'll get 10k in the end...if not.. :bsod:

unrealneo
02-20-2004, 12:37 PM
I'm sure the magic number will appear when you're least expecting it. :)

pik-ard v1.1
02-20-2004, 01:18 PM
you mean you cant hit 10k even with your cpu higher then 4.2ghz?

i mean sure... its not gonna effect it much... but even if you added "just" 200mhz, shouldnt that give you the 30-35 more 3dmark2k3 points you need?

Soulburner
02-20-2004, 01:24 PM
Maybe you'll need CAT 4.3 ;)

macci
02-20-2004, 01:25 PM
I got up to 9945 at 4305MHz (287x15 5:4)/654/474, at 4435 (246x18 1:1)/655/473 it is 9966. 4505/657/471 should be quite close to 10k.
Now I just need to get it thru the dang bench. with lower card clocks I've passed the test at 4524MHz CPU and on the other hand the card has passed the test at 660/474 w/ lower CPU clock.

macci
02-20-2004, 01:26 PM
Yea CAT 4.3 (+50marks) would rock :D

Stang_Man
02-20-2004, 01:27 PM
macci, you have pro version, you can't select tests and run them individually?

unrealneo
02-20-2004, 01:28 PM
macci, need more power! :D

hope you get it sorted. I hate it when you get scenarios like that :mad:

Soulburner
02-20-2004, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Stang_Man
macci, you have pro version, you can't select tests and run them individually?
I would assume if you can do that, he already does.

But I hear 03 doesn't let you do that.

pik-ard v1.1
02-20-2004, 02:11 PM
sounds like all you have to do now is bench with higher clocks on both cpu and VC.

i'd say theres 10k in that system, without any different drivers/tweaks. ;)

Hallowed
02-20-2004, 02:46 PM
Pff, yeah, I mean come on macci, thats so easy. :rolleyes:

pik-ard v1.1
02-20-2004, 03:21 PM
what? are you saying its hard to overclock two parts of your system to their full potential at once? :rolleyes:

Hallowed
02-20-2004, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by pik-ard v1.1
what? are you saying its hard to overclock two parts of your system to their full potential at once? :rolleyes:

You dont have the experience to understand the finer things about taking strong hardware to its absolute limits.

If it were a simple matter of just "overclocking more" it would have been done already. One overclock will determine the stability of the other and consequently you must strike a balance that can live for 20 minutes. Theres more but I don't need to explain it.

pik-ard v1.1
02-20-2004, 04:02 PM
but he has done it before...

he has pushed his cpu further then his top scoring 3dmark03 run...

he's pushed it atleast 300mhz more stable enough for benching...

you would have a point if that 4.2ghz is the max he has ever benched it at, but it isnt, so you dont. ;)

"all" he has to do, in my eye, is do the two things at once, and for someone with his skill, i dont see how it could be that hard. ;)

you should note that im not telling him to OC his proccy more then he previously has...

PTK
02-20-2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by macci
Yea CAT 4.3 (+50marks) would rock :D

;).

Havent benched them against 4.2's so not sure if they give more in 3DMark2k3... :D

Btw, any idea how many times you have run the bench .. lets say the last 3-4 days ?

PTK

Ps. Keep on running.. its gotta work out soon(tm) :toast:

Hallowed
02-20-2004, 04:11 PM
Clocks up processor, GPU clock will fall.

GPU is 80%+ in 03'. Hence clocks at where they are. I believe this has been mentioned a few times already.

pik-ard v1.1
02-20-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Hallowed
Clocks up processor, GPU clock will fall.

GPU is 80%+ in 03'. Hence clocks at where they are. I believe this has been mentioned a few times already.
its well known that gpu is by far most important in '03... but, all he is asking for is 34 marks... its not like he needs to up his processor that much for just 34 marks...

sky
02-20-2004, 04:23 PM
well it's just harder the closer you get. kinda like with getting down to 0k (-273°C). the closer you get to that, the smaller the steps forward you make will be. so gaining 34 pts at the level he is at right now is like searching for 1500 pts for the guys around 6000 pts with a 9500 ;)

Hallowed
02-20-2004, 04:32 PM
Yeah. Its obviously (at the moment) the max clocks possible on either component for the best combo or macci would have it already.

This really isn't that hard to understand.

Bennah
02-20-2004, 04:35 PM
I say the winning formula would be his card @ 660/474. Which macci said that it had passed through the test at that before but his cpu has to be at a lower clock. Therefore run the cpu @ 242x18 (1:1) The good ol' 1:1 action would do the trick ;)

Set the card to its max firstly, then set to the cpu to suit :)

Soulburner
02-20-2004, 05:00 PM
Hallowed is correct.

You may have more CPU speed, and you may have more GPU speed, but running them at the max at the SAME TIME will interfere with each other and sometimes cannot be done.

It isn't like that on my system but obviously is on his.

Bennah
02-20-2004, 05:22 PM
Yup I know that.

Thats why I said run to the card at its max and run the cpu accordingly ;)

Hallowed
02-20-2004, 05:25 PM
Soul, it seems like the populace here has a hard time understanding the simple law of "dont tell macci how to bench"

We should write this down somewhere.

Geforce4ti4200
02-20-2004, 05:39 PM
why not? what we tell macci may be helping him! yes they are right. Macci, leave your gpu at its max oc then get the cpu up one step at a time

charlie
02-20-2004, 05:43 PM
:ROTF:

You have seriously GOTTA be kidding me??
Any of US....
telling MACCI how to bench??

:ROTF:

Geforce4ti4200
02-20-2004, 05:46 PM
he knows alot, but many of us are also experts at benching. the suggestion macci max his gpu and clock his cpu a notch down was spot on and could be his 10k

Hallowed
02-20-2004, 05:52 PM
Ace you have said some stupid stuff in the past but this takes the cake. :hehe:

Soulburner
02-20-2004, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Hallowed
Soul, it seems like the populace here has a hard time understanding the simple law of "dont tell macci how to bench"

We should write this down somewhere.
No kidding :rolleyes:

unrealneo
02-20-2004, 05:59 PM
lol, shut up already.

If he COULD do it, he would have. :rolleyes:

GF4, you taking the piss or summat?

.....and pik_ard, most of the time, two o/c's on different components wont like being combined, when you put HEAVY stress onto a modern system. Course, you wouldn't know that.........

some of you guys dont have 10% the skill macci has. :hehe:

Geforce4ti4200
02-20-2004, 05:59 PM
relax, were just trying to help this champ Macci reach his goal of 10k. it is clear that gpu clocks to the max is what he wants, even at the expense of a few MHz on the cpu

pik-ard v1.1
02-20-2004, 07:25 PM
hm... maybe the whole max gpu vs max cpu thing is right... however...

it looked to me that macci was attempting to find max clocks on his 9800XT... as they seemed to go up each time. ;)

i dont see any posts where macci says that his high gpu clocks are interfearing with his cpu clocking... so why should i assume that is the only reason he isnt going with 4.3-4.4ghz?

when im personally trying to find the max clocks on my lowly card, i clock my cpu down a bit.

if i am wrong... which i may be, you could atleast see where i could make that honest mistake?

and if im not sure of something, like this situation, isnt it better to say something and get corrected, then to not say anything, and keep the same wrong assumption?

i know macci knows good and well what he is doing, but just me saying something like what i said, could possibly get an explanation as to why he isnt running both at max. :rolleyes:

as for ace over there... :stick:

Kanavit
02-20-2004, 07:34 PM
hmm,

I'm not really impressed with total score amount, but i'm more impressed with the amount of work needed to be #1.

3dmark03 is very demanding test. Look at the attrition, Oppainter's cascade broke, and Macci's video card bridge blew while running this benchmark trying to beat 10k.

dim3z
02-20-2004, 08:48 PM
lol fools have a look at maccis website and the amount of things hes achieved.... hes probably the most accomplished overclocker out there and always up there with the best in term of benching aswell.

macci's benchmarking and overclocking skills should NEVER EVER be questioned let alone mocked or criticised and some of you have gone very close to mocking or criticising them

Geforce4ti4200
02-20-2004, 09:18 PM
I saw no one mocking him, just offering him suggestions and praises

Hobocrow
02-20-2004, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
he knows alot, but many of us are also experts at benching. the suggestion macci max his gpu and clock his cpu a notch down was spot on and could be his 10k

:eek: :ROTF: That's just priceless..... I'm goinna write that down! :p: Please keep up the support!

Soulburner
02-20-2004, 11:30 PM
Yeah i'm sure he didn't know that before :rolleyes:

QuadDamage
02-20-2004, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
he knows alot, but many of us are also experts at benching. the suggestion macci max his gpu and clock his cpu a notch down was spot on and could be his 10k

Ace,

knock it off Ace. You don't have even 5% of his knowledge so how can you help him break 10k? You sound like you're trying to teach Carl Lewis how to walk.:rolleyes:

Peen
02-21-2004, 12:12 AM
Im sorry but benching with FX5200's and Ti4200's is different then Maccis rig where it isnt bottlenecked anywhere Geforce dude

Melkizedek
02-21-2004, 04:25 AM
daily update...

http://melkizedek.altervista.org/rank03g.gif

Macci - 34

Oppainter - 122

Fugger -192

OT: SIGN UPDATED :D /OT

Bennah
02-21-2004, 04:38 AM
I believe I was the one who started the max card clocks and the cpu at a speed to suit :)

I say the winning formula would be his card @ 660/474. Which macci said that it had passed through the test at that before but his cpu has to be at a lower clock. Therefore run the cpu @ 242x18 (1:1) The good ol' 1:1 action would do the trick ;)

I was trying to say that in the past he has run his card and cpu together trying to level the combo out not at thier max's, which he probably cant do. Runing the card at its max might do the trick. macci might of already done this, who knows what he has done :D But I think that the card at its max, is the formula to get to 10K, Im not telling macci what to do, he doesnt he telling with all the knowledge he has but its just my thought :)

Asniper
02-21-2004, 07:56 AM
Wonder how many points oop would gain from a driver update :)

macci
02-21-2004, 08:21 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions :)
No idea is bad idea at this point :D

I think I need to put DX9.0b in and hope it gives atleast 5 extra (going from 9 => 9.0a gave me 5). I have server2003 OS too which gave a nice boost in A64 SuperPi results. Maybe it will run fast in 3D w/ Intel too. OPP has already shown that Server+DX9 in 3dmark2001 w/ A64 is faster than WinXP+dx8.1

And as far as OPP's driver goes it seems that its just as fast as the 4.2. Also I doubt that he would bench w/ cascade and not use the fastest driver for his setup ;)

btw, anyone got good ATI driver D3D tweaks?? Other than the usual control panel => high performance?

Peen
02-21-2004, 08:23 AM
Maybe Rage3d?

edit -I think with Rage3d you can turn detail down even further, gotta check

Bennah
02-21-2004, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by macci
OPP has already shown that Server+DX9 in 3dmark2001 w/ A64 is faster than WinXP+dx8.1

I'l have to check that out. Do apps like SuperPI, Sandra run on Server 2003 Ok? Would everything be compatible with Server 2003?

Geforce4ti4200
02-22-2004, 12:41 AM
we arent telling macci how to bench, but marely giving him suggestions ;)

kommando
02-22-2004, 12:45 AM
I'd imagine 64bit cpus will show their full pwoer when 64bit apps and os's come out.

Sooo we now play the waiting game.

nailbomb
02-22-2004, 12:52 AM
How does one install DirectX on Server 2k3? I just installed the OS tonight. It seems to be quite fast actually.

BTW, Sandra seems to run okay, yes. Dunno about SuperPI etc. This is my old box that I plan on using for a file server, folding machine.

nailbomb
02-22-2004, 01:00 AM
Just tried SuperPI, runs fine. I'll be damned if I'm gonna post a score from a P4 1.8 thou GRIN.

zakelwe
02-22-2004, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by macci
This hardware doesn't want to go to 10k very easily it seems. I've got 9962, 9965, 9966 and 9967 now - all with different GPU/RAM/CPU clocks... :brick:

The card has taken insane amount of punishment and it still keeps on going :D I'm sure she'll get 10k in the end...if not.. :bsod:

Just think in two months you will be clicking to run it and your r420/nv40 will do 11k whilst you sit down eating your dinner wondering whether you should take the stock hsf off for the cascade .. LOL :D

Regards
Andy

zakelwe
02-22-2004, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by macci
Thanks for all the suggestions :)
No idea is bad idea at this point :D



This is a good point, although macci has 99.9% of everything covered due to experience and skill, benching has so many combinations that maybe something not thought of or wild will do the trick.

For instance Stinger ran 2 memory modules in AMD64 3400 and said it gave 300 more points at 30k, I would never have consdidered that in a single channel system ( might not be true though, not tested it ).

Besides, it is just people here being excited and involved, I'm sure we have all shouted " Hit him with a right " when watching a boxing match :)

Macci, increase your clocks on video and cpu ..that is my tip.

:banana:

Regards

Andy

Geforce4ti4200
02-22-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by zakelwe
Just think in two months you will be clicking to run it and your r420/nv40 will do 11k whilst you sit down eating your dinner wondering whether you should take the stock hsf off for the cascade .. LOL :D

Regards
Andy



:D :banana: yea funny thing how fast technology advances eh? If he can grab one of those quick, he may be the first to 13k or even 15k and 40k in 2001

QuadDamage
02-23-2004, 12:26 AM
For instance Stinger ran 2 memory modules in AMD64 3400 and said it gave 300 more points at 30k, I would never have consdidered that in a single channel system ( might not be true though, not tested it ).

lol, i thought it was pretty obvious, i've been recommending using 2x256mb sticks since day 1:)

macci
02-23-2004, 04:56 AM
11 more Fking marks to go! Aaarrghhh :D

dropadrop
02-23-2004, 05:02 AM
LOL

Go for it!

dim3z
02-23-2004, 05:04 AM
LOL comeon, like 1 more mhz on core or mem and its youres:D

Mrstickinit
02-23-2004, 05:08 AM
Man that's gotta be frustrating macci..... I know in the end though you'll figure it out and smash through the barrier.


It's kinda like when Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier! :p: I think it took 6 or more flights and he was going from like .96 mach, .97 mach, .98mach, etc. Then finally WHAM! straight through it. I doubt the ride will be as smooth though as it was for Yeager :D Keep it up man...... good luck.

macci
02-23-2004, 05:39 AM
The hunt is over :D

gotta upload some stuff now

Mrstickinit
02-23-2004, 05:40 AM
You smashed it didn't ya!?!!! CONGRATS MACCI!!!! :toast: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

I²K
02-23-2004, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by macci
The hunt is over :D

gotta upload some stuff now

Congratulation Mr. 10k!

Stang_Man
02-23-2004, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by macci
The hunt is over :D

gotta upload some stuff now

:rocker:

nailbomb
02-23-2004, 06:00 AM
Right on :D

macci
02-23-2004, 06:06 AM
http://www.akiba-pc.com/10008.gif

Isn't it a beautiful number :D

URL (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2113980)

done at 4505/657/471

Mrstickinit
02-23-2004, 06:07 AM
It sure is.... need to update your sig now eh??? LOL :banana:

zakelwe
02-23-2004, 06:11 AM
:toast:

Excellent finish to the hunt macci after all those days trying. First 10k in 2001 and 2003 now .. great record of your persistence in benching over time.


Now Futuremark just ned to clear up all that crap on the front page that has appeared over the last couple of days
:rolleyes: What is it with Ati 9600 owners ?

Regards

Andy

PS Quad, it's still not obvious to me using 2 sticks for AMD64, I know I am being a bit dumb here :) !!! LOL

sky
02-23-2004, 06:52 AM
macci, you're the man! :toast: :slobber:
a salute to you for another milestone in
the history books of overclocking - chapeau!

Minnyboy
02-23-2004, 06:56 AM
Congrats on the 10K macci :toast:

I see futuremark has some problems displaying correct fsb, is it because clockgen was used?

I know that 3D01 has the same probs displaying my scores with the IC7-G, setting 288fsb & it reports it as 0fsb. I also notice my bios reporting the same, 288fsb/289fsb is reported as 287fsb, only when i use cpu-z does it show me the correct speed/fsb.

Anyways, once again CONGRATS on breaking 2 milestones, 10K in both 3D01 & 3D03....:worship: :worship: :worship: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :rocker: :rocker:

OwcA
02-23-2004, 07:11 AM
:toast: :banana: Cheers (and a dancing banana :D) mate!

DjTonic
02-23-2004, 07:44 AM
good job m8 :toast:

FUGGER
02-23-2004, 10:39 AM
Congrats and a job well done.

I was plugging away at it last night too,

My IC7-Max3 now up to 4.55Ghz but agpv too low to match P4C800 vga clock speeds. NB cap helped a lot.

Surprised you didnt run 2K1 with those clocks ;)

majormav
02-23-2004, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by macci
The hunt is over :D

gotta upload some stuff now macci you are ruthless "you killed the sacred number"
congrats :toast:

Kanavit
02-23-2004, 10:47 AM
I'm really surprised that 10k was broken in 3dmark03. For a moment, I didn't think it was possible with current hardware and technology. Congratulations Macci.

zakelwe
02-23-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by FUGGER
Congrats and a job well done.

I was plugging away at it last night too,

My IC7-Max3 now up to 4.55Ghz but agpv too low to match P4C800 vga clock speeds. NB cap helped a lot.

Surprised you didnt run 2K1 with those clocks ;)

FUGGER,

With such a nice speed out of your EE how are you doing on pifast, Superpi etc etc ?

Regards

Andy


PS Wonder if macci is now turning his attention to 2001 , would seem logical now the main signpost goal has been reached.

Soulburner
02-23-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Kanavit
I'm really surprised that 10k was broken in 3dmark03. For a moment, I didn't think it was possible with current hardware and technology. Congratulations Macci.
Well, it isn't possible with current hardware actually.

But it IS possible with current hardware in macci's hands :banana:

zakelwe
02-23-2004, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Soulburner
Well, it isn't possible with current hardware actually.

But it IS possible with current hardware in macci's hands :banana:

Macci and Opps hands, both have shown the following


1) Ability to use past experience to extract the max out of all new hardware coming their way.

2) Ability to take new hardware theories onboard ( in this I am thinking cascades ) and turn them into practice in a successful manner.

3) Ability to bench conistently over an extended time period without it blowing their brains :)

Of the above the 3) is the nost impressive to me. To be able to stay at the top of your field whilst hardware is failing and you have stayed up to 3-4-5am in the morning with other social activities ( like work ) the next day really takes some doing.

From posted items we know macci said he was tired after benching in January at all hours and we know CaptainCascade felt the tiredness whilst Opp was still benching away in early morning runs .....

And the hardware felt the pace as well, one blown cascade and one blown ( but still record performing ) ATI card, it's been great to watch.

Thanks guys.

Regards

Andy

mg84
02-23-2004, 11:01 AM
congratulation
:bows: :bows: :bows:

FUGGER
02-23-2004, 12:24 PM
Andy, I will try again once I finish the agp mod, I broke down already.

I used wires and located the NB cap off to the side and soldered it with NB fan still on the mobo. 1500u 6.3v

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=217114

bugged at 4.250Ghz (speed I booted at), I completed it at 4.56Ghz

I have a 4.29Ghz score saved 6735

The XT is a very durable video card, hard to believe the abuse it has been put through.

Geforce4ti4200
02-23-2004, 12:52 PM
id like to congras you again :) next stop: breaking 31k in 2001