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Hell-Fire
02-06-2004, 11:53 PM
I ordered the TEC Conversion kit, and when I received it, the TEC was defective, so off to RMA.

In the meantime, the cold plate and water block cpooer surfaces have some oxidation on them from where I handled them during assembling the unit.

Will this inhibit the cooling of these blocks? I have tried some white vinegar..but only removed a small amount of the oxidation. I certainly dont want to use Brasso....although it would make it real nice and shiny, it would also be removing layers of copper to do so.

saaya
02-07-2004, 12:27 AM
the ayer of oxidated copper is actually just a few atoms thick, if you wanna get rid of it anyways use a towel.

Hell-Fire
02-07-2004, 12:43 AM
Just a towel...damp?

If its not going to impact cooling capacity, I am not going to worry about it.

saaya
02-07-2004, 12:47 AM
impact is probably to small to be meassured...

Hell-Fire
02-07-2004, 12:50 AM
Good! LOL....I am having enough issues just getting this thing layed out so it fits into the case, much less worrying about buffing 3 blocks.

Thnx again saaya.

saaya
02-07-2004, 12:53 AM
np :)

i was worried about this oxidation as well but heard that its just a thin layer of atoms and doesnt really change much. you can actually see a diference in temps of ~1°C with oxidated copper heatsinks, but thats a huge surface area of more than 1m²

st0nedpenguin
02-07-2004, 02:13 AM
Don't know if it works or not, but I'm sure I saw a guide on waterblock construction on madshrimps that showed a guy using ketchup to remove tarnishes on a copper block...

Yup, I did, thank god, I'm not losing my mind. :D

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=gethowto&number=6&howtopage=83&howtoID=34

saaya
02-07-2004, 02:32 AM
its the acid inside the ketchup that de-oxidises the copper iirc.
same thing as using vinegar like he did.

mmmhhhh ketchup... you made me hungry! going to get a nice burger and drown it in ketchup mmhhhhhhh :D

Vlad Draculea
02-07-2004, 04:07 AM
i usually use for this purposes something i cant speak about due to my shelfreverse
NDA

Hell-Fire
02-07-2004, 09:38 AM
LMAO. I will give the ketchup a try as the vinegar only worked partially.

Since I have to dremel me up some ram sinks, may as well let the blocks have a Heinz bath. :hehe:

Thanks for everyones input.

Hell-Fire
02-07-2004, 09:56 AM
Well smack my butt and call me Susie..the ketchup worked beautifully!

Looks brand new, and only had to let it sit on the blocks a minute or 2.

isp
02-07-2004, 11:10 AM
LOL...

Now I just want to try this...

*looks for something copper*

sjohnson
02-07-2004, 11:41 AM
The acids in tomatos are relatively powerful reducing agents.

It's an old cook's trick to brighten a dull aluminum pot by boiling tomatoes (any kind, from the whole fruit to juice) in the pot.

Another one, works on iron and steel only: soak a rusty piece of iron or steel in a glass of coca-cola overnight. The phosphoric acid in the Coke reduces the rust on the nail.

saaya
02-07-2004, 12:01 PM
glad you finally got your mirror finish susie :slapass:

:D

freecableguy
02-07-2004, 03:40 PM
Brasso works great too.

Hell-Fire
02-07-2004, 03:52 PM
LOL @ saaya.

freecableguy, the problem with Brasso is that although it makes things all pretty and shiney (as I stated above), it also removes layers of copper to do so. Most good cold plates are lapped to about as perfectly flat as can be,,,,dont wanna go messing up their hard work.