Whats the #1 score witha 9600PRO?

[Dominos]

I've been sweeping throu the orb, and I've been locking really hard for the #1 9600Pro score but alot of the top scorec doesn't say if it's Pro or XT. So I was wondering if you could help me out a bit on this :D I thought I'd take a shot for the #1 Pro score later :p:

[MrIcee]

Hi Dominos:)

I'm not sure if you are looking for 2001 or 2003 scores. The current top 2001 score is held by Grace.

One note, the 9600 class is altogether...there is no distinction between Pro's or XT's etc.

Randi:D

[Happy^]

Can we get what score he has ?? :D

EDIT: Where the f*cking h*ll do I find the scores ??!

[Dominos]

Originally posted by MrIcee
Hi Dominos:)

I'm not sure if you are looking for 2001 or 2003 scores. The current top 2001 score is held by Grace.

One note, the 9600 class is altogether...there is no distinction between Pro's or XT's etc.

Randi:D
I were looking for 2001 scores, should have mentioned that in the first post, sorry. And Ii knew that all the 9600 models were asembled in the same cathegory, thats why I asked. I've got 15.5k myself, with a filthy XP install, DX9.0b and some §§§§y Omega drivers. Do you think I have a chance? That score wasn't at the max clocks of the gfx either, it was only at 540/391. I might be able to beat Poki, he had about 16.3. And what score did Grace have?

[Soulburner]

Just go to the ORB and do a search with 9600 series.

But you are going to need 18-19k to take 1st place.

Top score is held by Grace.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7511005

Second is MrIcee
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7312458

[skate2snow]

Grace is #1 w/ 18.3K and R9600PRO@695/xxx and a 2.8@4.2 all WaterCooled.

[bh2k]

Probably all gonna go to dust once my r404 dry ice project is all done ;)

[Endre]

What he asks for is the top 9600Pro, not top 9600 class!

It's not possible to tell for sure who is #1 with the Pro. This is the highest i found that says Pro in the description:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7083613

[Soulburner]

Endre, Graces card is a Pro.

[kommando]

Need like a64 and prommy on cpu and some other phase change on gpu and a nice waterchiller on nb.

[Grace]

Grace is #1 w/ 18.3K and R9600PRO@695/xxx and a 2.8@4.2 all WaterCooled.

About 720/360 actually, I don't want anyone trying to find out why they can't hit my score at the same clocks. That's until MrIcee decides to bring me down to earth anyway, hard. :D


Originally posted by MrIcee

One note, the 9600 class is altogether...there is no distinction between Pro's or XT's etc.

Randi:D

The top score for the 3DMark03 is held by God :

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1993005

I'm not sure why or how is that, but I know that he is using an XT (Gigabyte 9600Pro Ultra, aka XT without the overdrive, it is recognized as an XT everywhere and by the drivers as well) but the ORB won't recognize it as one, so I can't say that 3DMark03 is very accurate for splitting categories either.

[Geforce4ti4200]

nice score grace! itll be nice if you update the description to reflect what clocks your card was at using what cooling. Mr. Icee is very close with lower card clocks and an air cooled a64 at below 2.4GHz. a good prometeia cooled a64 could take over 19k quite easy :D

[kommando]

I havn't figured out how to change the orders of tests and figure out the best drivers for my card so i got no chance in getting up there.

[Grace]

Originally posted by kommando
I havn't figured out how to change the orders of tests and figure out the best drivers for my card so i got no chance in getting up there.

Changing the orders of the test won't help you any.

The best drivers are the latest 4.1 for me, well, I didn't see any difference from the previous anyway!

nice score grace! itll be nice if you update the description to reflect what clocks your card was at using what cooling. Mr. Icee is very close with lower card clocks and an air cooled a64 at below 2.4GHz. a good prometeia cooled a64 could take over 19k quite easy

I had a description there but I just erased it. Don't ask the 'why' part, I just did. There is a thread of mine here for all that are interested to find out all the details about it.

And you don't even need a Prometeia for that, any good A64 decently cooled will tear it down. Paired with a very good card of course. The 9600 will bottleneck any powerful system easily, good card clocks are the key.

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by Grace
Changing the orders of the test won't help you any.
Not true, test order does make a difference in 3DMark01.

[Grace]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Not true, test order does make a difference in 3DMark01.

Yes? Any tips for me as well?

If you run a test 10 times, you get 10 different results. Luck does help a little.

[kommando]

Yer i heard it does increase scores.

Grace nice setup.

Aahhhh crap, gonna be hard to reach first page.

[Soulburner]

Yes but depending on the order of the tests, each one you run will impact the others in a certain way...though a lot of people's order is very different, I guess its not the same from system to system.

[Geforce4ti4200]

I get the best results running proper orders. I tried running lobby first a few times, gained like a couple fps each lobby but lost more in both car chases, negating the gains in lobby. also drag went down a bit too. also car chase can only be run once, I get a bad run, I reboot then run again. I get a good run then I run the other 3 tests. cpu speeds DO matter, even with my ti500 my 3dmarks went up with a faster cpu. you wont gain anywhere near the same difference, but if you want the best score, you need a fast cpu too. 600MHz core clocks is amazing, 700MHz is just unbelievable! insane volt mods, prometeia cooled? those 9600xt cards pack a pretty good punch at 600/700+ clocks. One thing that supprises me, I saw several guys hit over 800MHz on the ram, wouldnt one of those in your rig really help? I think theres an edition with 2.8ns ram. ram bandwith seems to help big with those. dragothic and nature love ram bandwith. despite the 4x1 pipeline core, my 330/690 ti4200 is getting outperformed in dragothic and matched in nature by 700/700 clocked 9600xts

[Soulburner]

Graces card is a 9600 Pro, not an XT.

And its on aircooling.

[kommando]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Graces card is a 9600 Pro, not an XT.

And its on aircooling.

Whoa aircooling nice nice. Damnit i really do suck now lol.

[Grace]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Graces card is a 9600 Pro, not an XT.

And its on aircooling.

Watercooling.


cpu speeds DO matter

One thing that supprises me, I saw several guys hit over 800MHz on the ram, wouldnt one of those in your rig really help? I think theres an edition with 2.8ns ram. ram bandwith seems to help big with those. dragothic and nature love ram bandwith. despite the 4x1 pipeline core, my 330/690 ti4200 is getting outperformed in dragothic and matched in nature by 700/700 clocked 9600xts

Of course CPU speed does matter, half the test relies on it actually! Everything matters, RAM bandwidth, FSB....

Yes, many good cards hit 400MHz RAM with added cooling. Every little bit helps, not just that.

All the 9600Pro and XTs carry 2.8ns RAM, those that are not LE, LP and such editions anyway.

Dragothic likes good memory speed, Nature loves core speed.

And NEVER compare different cards, those 2 are nothing alike each other.

[Soulburner]

Sorry I thought you said it was on air.....and better cooling did nothing for it?

[Dominos]

OK, thanks for the answears, #1 without vmodding my card seems to be a bit too hard, but I'll give it my best shot ;)
Anyways, you are the experts, what score do you think is possible with my setup?

Abit AN7 motherboard.
Barton, can do 2.5 inside on air, got water on now and my bench sessions are always outside in -15 or colder. (cpu did 2.7 like nothing last time i was out, with air)
§§§§ty RAM that does 230+ at 3.1v and 11-3-2-2 timings
Improwed NB coolin, can do 225 inside, 230++ in the cold
GFX max 550/411 without mods (any idea what a vmod could do?)
I'll put win2k, dx 8.1 and some catalyst drivers in aswell.

Weel, do you think I can atleast get the #1 unmodde spot? I think I'ts at 15.7 or so.

Thanks again for the answears, and Grace that is one amazing card! How high did it go without mods? And how muck v are you throwing at that gpu?

[Dominos]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Sorry I thought you said it was on air.....and better cooling did nothing for it?

Better cooling does nothing if you don't vmodd it, with out mods it the card does about the same clocks with stock cooler as with a -100*C cascade!

[Geforce4ti4200]

most cards do benefit from better cooling, wonder why not the 9600s? I hear geforce3's usually dont benefit from a v mod, just very low temps. 700MHz core has got to be a record for a 9600 pro, my salutions! have you considered using tweakmonster ramsinks or watercooling the ram too? getting it to 400MHz is obviously going to further your #1 ranking. are 9600xt really that much better than the pros if you can hit 700 on a pro?

[Grace]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Sorry I thought you said it was on air.....and better cooling did nothing for it?

No, for the memory I said that the vmod does nothing. I never said anything about cooling though.

Thanks again for the answears, and Grace that is one amazing card! How high did it go without mods? And how muck v are you throwing at that gpu?


570/350 out of the box.

1.49 Vcore if I remember well.

Better cooling does nothing if you don't vmodd it, with out mods it the card does about the same clocks with stock cooler as with a -100*C cascade!

Wrong, it always does. Mine did 570 out of the box, 580 with merely changing the contact material to ceramique and 610 if I remember well with the water. Just don't expect miracles.

have you considered using tweakmonster ramsinks or watercooling the ram too?

are 9600xt really that much better than the pros if you can hit 700 on a pro?

Heatsinks will help little, at best 10MHz if I'm lucky. If the RAM hits a limit, that's it, unless you can cool them to sub-ambient. No real point in trying.

The XTs are the same cores as the Pros, exactly the same. Merely an 'overdrive' chip and a little higher core voltage does the whole trick.

[Endre]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Endre, Graces card is a Pro.
Ok. how old is that card? I just can't see that being a normal RV350, I'd say it's a 360. Like macci's 9800SE just can't be a R350, he has xtreme cooling, but still, it hits 660+ (IIRC), no one else has came over 600.

Edit: Grace: Exactly the same? Aren't there done improvements on RV360 to achieve higher clock speed like R360?

[Geforce4ti4200]

thats my thought, didnt the 9600xt use low-k for better yields of 500MHz?

[Grace]

Originally posted by Endre
Ok. how old is that card? I just can't see that being a normal RV350, I'd say it's a 360. Like macci's 9800SE just can't be a R350, he has xtreme cooling, but still, it hits 660+ (IIRC), no one else has came over 600.

Edit: Grace: Exactly the same? Aren't there done improvements on RV360 to achieve higher clock speed like R360?

It's actually rather old, of the first of its kind I'd say.

And yes, in *theory*. In act they don't benefit at all, they behave about the same. Don't put your faith too much on a changed number only.

[Soulburner]

Yeah that's what they told everyone, but it seems they are the same.

It looks just like what NV did with 5900 --> 5950.

[Geforce4ti4200]

so whats wrong with all those 9600 pros that cant do 500MHz core? undervolts? 9600xt rejects with slightly imperfect cores?

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
so whats wrong with all those 9600 pros that cant do 500MHz core? undervolts? 9600xt rejects with slightly imperfect cores?
What 9600 Pro's?

Were "all these 9600 pros" volt modded?

[Grace]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
so whats wrong with all those 9600 pros that cant do 500MHz core? undervolts? 9600xt rejects with slightly imperfect cores?

Both sometimes?

[Endre]

OK, I just assumed it was like the R360 that clocks a good bit higher than R350. And that is a damn good 9600Pro BTW. :)

[Geforce4ti4200]

it does seem that 9600xts generally clock higher than the 9600 pros. maybe better yields or speed binning? Of course there are exceptions with 9600 pros beating 9600xt just as there are ti4200s beating ti4600s but its rare!

[Grace]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
it does seem that 9600xts generally clock higher than the 9600 pros. maybe better yields or speed binning? Of course there are exceptions with 9600 pros beating 9600xt just as there are ti4200s beating ti4600s but its rare!

If I remember well, 2 identical cards of the same company, one Pro and another XT, measuring the Vcore of those the Pro gave 1.25v and the XT 1.3v. Plus 'hand picked' cores or as you said, speed binning, well, you got the proper results.

Yes, the XTs have better -potential- when clocking.

[kommando]

How much tweaking goes to these high scores?

[Grace]

Originally posted by kommando
How much tweaking goes to these high scores?

Enough.

[zakelwe]

Who is God ? Is it you or do you share stuff / have the same hardware ? If it is not you have you considered doing 3dmark03 and beating God ?

The Ati 9600XT looks a bit weedy in 3dmark01 compared to 5700U but is as good as the 5700U in 03 due to it's better DX9 implementation. ( I have taken into account nvidia drivers as well ).

Maybe one day I will get around to benching Ati.

Regards

Andy

[Grace]

Originally posted by zakelwe
Who is God ? Is it you or do you share stuff / have the same hardware ? If it is not you have you considered doing 3dmark03 and beating God ?


Nothing near it, I just know who he is. We are pretty far apart. And certainly we don't have anywhere the same hardware, extremely different ways of cooling and the very least different video cards. I wouldn't consider it since I won't buy a key for the version and the waiting for the whole test to run makes me bored at the very least. He can have the place, I don't want honors.

[Geforce4ti4200]

zakelwe, on an unrelated note you have 911 posts ;)
on another unrelated note, are u gonna get the 939 socket mobo

[r3b0rN]

very impressive 9600 pro grace. getting a little bit of topic, can i ask a very noob question :) what do u people use to stick the ramsinks onto the video card memory? arctic ceramique?

[Minnyboy]

Grace

Put it this way, I was getting an extra 100 points or more by running the test in this order:
1.) Drago (low)
2.) Car Chase (low)
3.) Lobby (low)
4.) Car Chase (high)
5.) Drago (high)
6.) Nauture
7.) Lobby (high)

Gave me an extra 100points or so. I might be exagerating or not but it does help. My Drago (low) was giving me an extra 20fps (roughly) by running it first.

Worth a try imo. You should try it in that order. Opp, macci, Fugger do that. That's why they're able to get record points for the tests...

2 cents.. Getting rich with my 2 cents..lol
Try it out once & then comare ir with your points from running the tests in order. I rckon maybe an extra 200 point (max). Makes it harder for other ppl to break your record...

Hope this helps you in maintaning you no#1 spot...

Cheers. How bout that, a lady on top of the orb. Never thought that a lady wouold claim the throne.. The Queen of 3Dmark!!!

Congratulations!! :toast:

[Grace]

Originally posted by Minnyboy

Try it out once & then comare ir with your points from running the tests in order. I rckon maybe an extra 200 point (max). Makes it harder for other ppl to break your record...

Hope this helps you in maintaning you no#1 spot...

Cheers. How bout that, a lady on top of the orb. Never thought that a lady wouold claim the throne.. The Queen of 3Dmark!!!

Congratulations!! :toast:

Thank you, I might try that when I have the time and some more tricks to get out of my hat. However I don't die to stay first, it doesn't really concern me.


very impressive 9600 pro grace. getting a little bit of topic, can i ask a very noob question what do u people use to stick the ramsinks onto the video card memory? arctic ceramique?

Ceramique is NOT glue! :D

Have a read at the VGA part of this article (http://www.vr-zone.com/index.cgi?i=31). It describes the ways you can do it.

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
zakelwe, on an unrelated note you have 911 posts ;)
on another unrelated note, are u gonna get the 939 socket mobo

I'll be on 999 soon which the UK emergency services number :)

I cannot make my mind up whether to go 939 or not. The reason is that my current memory is

1 stick Corsair XMS 3500 which does 2-5-2-2 at 256Mhz min 1:!
1 stick Corsair XMS 3500 which does 2-5-2-2 at about 240Mhz 1:1

So going dual channel I gain probably 5% ( if nforce2 is anything to go by) in pure bandwidth but then I'll have to run at 240 max, which is 5% less than current.

Considering I would also have to buy an FX53 to stop myself losing 512KB of cache and the 939 motherboard, I might be better sticking to 754 and this current motherboard but getting the AMD64 3700 which would be a new stepping at 2.4 so I assume 2.6 on air.

I'll wait for reports from the early adopters first though, might be worthwhile ....

In the meantime I am buying a summer house for the garden and moving all my computer stuff out there. I will be filling it with a fridge, aircon, two freezers, BBQ and a nice chair and be sipping :banana::banana::banana::banana:tails while benching this summer. It is my overclockers paradise. Might create a thread in one of the other forums about it.

Regards
Andy

PS Did you see arne anke getting top GF4 MX440 spot ?





256x10 on air would be very nice

[Geforce4ti4200]

dont you have any prometeias laying around? I see your ram dilemna but heres an idea: get the a64 3700+ with socket 939 and run dual channel at 240fsb. this will give you 2.88GHz. If air cooling can not hit this, whip out your prometeia ;) I cant wait to see the first 12k run on an mx440, 15k on a ti200 and 16k on a ti500.

[Grace]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
dont you have any prometeias laying around?


For a funny reason, why don't I see Prometeia's as beer canisters?:D

[Dominos]

wow this turned out to be a popular thread :D Thanks alot for the answears, I'll probadly take a benching sessione soon, I'll just have to find another HDD first :D Anyways, what do you think I can get out of my system?
Abit AN7 motherboard.
Barton, can do 2.5-2.6 with high FSB
Corsair Value S RAM that does 230++ at 3.1v and 11-3-2-2 timings, x-2-x-x is impossible :(
Improwed NB cooling, can do 230++ out in the cold
GFX max 550/411 without mods (any idea what a vmod could do?)
I'll put win2k, dx 8.1 and some catalyst drivers in aswell since I got 15.5 with XP, dx 9.0b and Omega drivers that sholud giva a couple of points. Plus I'm from sweden so I might ask Stinger for some tweaking tips :P He might not give me any, but there is a chance he could ;)

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
dont you have any prometeias laying around? I see your ram dilemna but heres an idea: get the a64 3700+ with socket 939 and run dual channel at 240fsb. this will give you 2.88GHz. If air cooling can not hit this, whip out your prometeia ;) I cant wait to see the first 12k run on an mx440, 15k on a ti200 and 16k on a ti500.

Isn't using a Prommie cheating ? :p:

An AMD64 with socket 939 will be 512KB cache and I am unhappy about losing half the cache so it would have to be FX53. So expensive.I'm not too worried about ultimate cpu power, just what I could possibly get with the FSB/HT speed at that max cpu clock with one stick compared to two.

I wonder how many other people with mismatched dual memory sticks are out there and wondering the same ?

On the subject of phase cooling I have been working my way up other means first, ie air, water, chilled water. Phase cooling seems too professional . I prefer the

FLOUNDERING AROUND AND LOTS OF DEAD HARDWARE APPROACH

Here's my air example

http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/amd2.jpg

Massive fan stuck on a cup and held in place by white/blutack. The number of times it almost fell off ;)

http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/water1.jpg

This is more like it, forget air cooling , water is the real deal. Look at that , for people who do not know

water + electricity = reduced resistance.
Reduced resistance = less heat produced.

Voila ! I laugh in the face of Prescott as 3 pints of glycol mixture sprays merrily over the carpet

Wife wasn't too chuffed though.

.http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/rig1.jpg

Getting prfessional here, a purple liquid meets gpu and cpu and the foam over the tubes is almost long enough to actually be somewhat more than pure decoration.

But not quite.

So phase change is out for the meantime, I will persist with chillers. I bought 26 foot of copper tubing today for my next FrankenBeerStein experiments.

Regards

Andy

[Geforce4ti4200]

thats some pretty nice cooling and mods you got there! a bit messy without case though. what temps are you getting? are you using peltiers too? yea I understand the loss of cache thing but wont dual channel make up for that easy? keeping up on the cpu MHz is gonna keep you in the top of the orb ;) a 3700+ at 240fsb and 2.88GHz chilly watercooled would do wonders for 3dmarkin in the wee hours of the morning ;) yea I understand about the issues of cost, this is why im sticking with my ti4200 and xp2000 and gonna dish out 17k. wont make me top of the orb but ill be top score for air cooling ;)

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
thats some pretty nice cooling and mods you got there! a bit messy without case though. what temps are you getting? are you using peltiers too? yea I understand the loss of cache thing but wont dual channel make up for that easy? keeping up on the cpu MHz is gonna keep you in the top of the orb ;) a 3700+ at 240fsb and 2.88GHz chilly watercooled would do wonders for 3dmarkin in the wee hours of the morning ;) yea I understand about the issues of cost, this is why im sticking with my ti4200 and xp2000 and gonna dish out 17k. wont make me top of the orb but ill be top score for air cooling ;)

These are my temps for 5700U having the cooling first and then it going to AMD64 at 2400.

http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/temps.jpg

As you can see the gpu warms it up slightly so the cpu suffers. Cheap though, no radiator , one pump and 20 pints of glycol in a cooler box. Will perfect it this summer.

To be honest unless you go well below zero like the phase change guys you are only gaining 10's of Mhz rather than 100's so it is more like a stability thing. That is my experience anyhow.

I have a Peltier, only 80w, which I have used on the gpu's but at some point I will see what happens on the cpu. The cpu has normally been so expensive I don't want to risk it. If you forget to turn off the Peltier when drunk and turn off the water you are going to have a nice smell appearing, as I have experienced :)

Good luck with the air cooling at 3am, I am now too old for that sort of thing. I have had too many long nights at less than zero C with the windows open wearing my fibre pile jacket and hardly being able to enter the details for the 3dmark project ...

I'm going to buy a couple of freezers and use -20C chilled water whilst I sit in the sun drinking a beer ... like all the more extreme phase change guys do, just on a lower level :)

You can't tell me Opp, Fugger and Macci don't wear Hawiian shirts when benching with their dual cascades ? LOL :D now they have got their heads screwed on right.


Regards

Andy

[kommando]

Originally posted by Minnyboy
Put it this way, I was getting an extra 100 points or more by running the test in this order:
1.) Drago (low)
2.) Car Chase (low)
3.) Lobby (low)
4.) Car Chase (high)
5.) Drago (high)
6.) Nauture
7.) Lobby (high)

Gave me an extra 100points or so. I might be exagerating or not but it does help. My Drago (low) was giving me an extra 20fps (roughly) by running it first.

How are you able to do that?

I remember on OCAU forums you were asking and now figured out please speaak :)

[Soulburner]

Just select them one at a time...

[kommando]

Aaah okay then whatever the order you clicked them becomes the order of the test?

[r3b0rN]

haha zakelwe nice setups, i like the "hardcore" air setup's... because even poor oc'ers like myself can afford to do it. just a few questions, what i could use to cool my gpu? possibly an arctic vga silencer? or a cpu hsf? im going to have a volcano 12 on my cpu and ill replace the NB cooler with maybe the Swiftech MCX159? basically id like suggestions from you guys for what a good video card cooler would be and nb cooler would be.

thanks.

[Minnyboy]

Originally posted by kommando
Aaah okay then whatever the order you clicked them becomes the order of the test?

kommando,
click say "nature" & run it. Once finished, click on another test & so forth until you get you points...

Running "Drago" low first gained me an extra 20 points iirc. That's the most points increase I've gotten so far. Running "Car Chase" low fisrst gave me an increas of roughly 10fps at the best of times.

Give it a shot & then compare it to your results from running the defaults.

GL
Minnyboy

[kommando]

Originally posted by Minnyboy
kommando,
click say "nature" & run it. Once finished, click on another test & so forth until you get you points...

Running "Drago" low first gained me an extra 20 points iirc. That's the most points increase I've gotten so far. Running "Car Chase" low fisrst gave me an increas of roughly 10fps at the best of times.

Give it a shot & then compare it to your results from running the defaults.

GL
Minnyboy

Ahh thanks dude, ill do this when i get some free time.

[zakelwe]

Originally posted by r3b0rN
haha zakelwe nice setups, i like the "hardcore" air setup's... because even poor oc'ers like myself can afford to do it. just a few questions, what i could use to cool my gpu? possibly an arctic vga silencer? or a cpu hsf? im going to have a volcano 12 on my cpu and ill replace the NB cooler with maybe the Swiftech MCX159? basically id like suggestions from you guys for what a good video card cooler would be and nb cooler would be.

thanks.

For GPU it depends on if you are prepared to lose PCI slots or not. if you are I would recommend using artic epxoy and stick a mid range copper cpu hs on such as SK6 or CAK 2. Then fit a delta 38 to the top.

Regards

Andy

[Geforce4ti4200]

gained 20fps? wow neat. I gain like 3fps if I run that first but lose 10+ in car chase. different orders dont work for me

[Minnyboy]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
gained 20fps? wow neat. I gain like 3fps if I run that first but lose 10+ in car chase. different orders dont work for me

Don't quote me on that....

I remember getting something like 430ish fps for Drago Low when running Car Chase first (gained around 5-10fps for Car low when run first).

If you click my linky in my sig, you'll see how much fps I gained from running Drago first. iirc (server's down atm) it's somewhere in the vicinity of 450ish fps....

Someone told me to try running Drago tests or was it Lobby first to gain the extra 40 points needed to break 24K.

What card are you using??? If it's after your namesake then there's a mighty big difference when compared to a WC volt-modded 9800pro. That's probably why you only gained 3 fps when running Drago Low first...

Mind you, I kept running Drago Low over & over again to get that much of a boost. Now that I got my rig fully 3DMark ready, I'm constantly getting 450fps when running Drago first... Car Chase does tae a hit though...Not by much but it keeps me from breaking 24K....

Keep trying.. You'll get there.....
Vapo 9800pro nearly ready for some 3DMark01 action... 24K will be gone soon....

[r3b0rN]

thanks zakelwe :) yes i am willing to lose pci slots... (i dont use any pci cards)
EDIT: Sorry, whats the CAK 2? (what brand)